@3, advice you can bring with you in your time machine !
Glad to see some clear headed comments and a whole lot less hand wringing and name calling than last round. Maybe we all wake up to the fact that weāre on our own, our government will not save us.
@5: Yet Donald's gains among people of color in Philadelphia and Detroit (and NYC even) blunts that view. Immigration and inflation is what it's more about, not just underlying bigotry and misogyny - as they're always ever present.
But don't despair. Dems always turn Congress around in the midterms and there's plenty of time for the next young candidate to take on Vance in 2026.
Cons supported him because he partied with pedos, because he wanted to date his daughter, because heās racist to the core, and because heās a fascist.
They voted him for those reasons, not in spite of them.
@8, So how is taking those maximalist positions working out for Progressives? How is pushing the middle, who decide our elections, too far going?
Nope, I didn't persuade many of those swing state voters. But unlike you, I do know which Democrats to support and which to not to (and what positions to support, and which not to), if I don't want Trump, or a Trump clone, to expand his vote total and base, while Harris didn't do as well in even deep blue states, as Biden did in 2020.
As the Stone's so aptly put it, "You can't always get what you want." Will you settle for "what you need," to avoid disasters like yesterday?
@14 How did tacking to the middle work for Harris? It's hard to get more middle than campaigning with Liz Cheney.
I will absolutely settle for the best I can get. I always have, and have always advocated for that. You seem to have mistaken me for someone else. I didn't love Biden, but I absolutely supported him once he was the nominee.
Come back when you know why 15 million Democrats who showed up for Biden didn't show for Harris.
@14 "How is pushing the middle, who decide our elections, too far going?"
Did you mean to write "pushing too far to the middle?" We're talking about the Democrat candidate who campaigned with Liz Cheney and promised to put a Republican in her cabinet right?
The national party coalescing around Biden in 2016 because they couldn't accept Bernie possibly being the nominee was the root of this ultimate defeat. He was unsurprisingly unpopular as President and had too big an ego to get out of the way until forced, and break-in-case-of-emergency candidate Kamala couldn't differentiate herself enough from his record to win. Any other purported explanation is just distraction from the DNC's (latest) colossal failure.
@16, did you not even read the article. IT DOESNT MATTER. Inflation stings and the world has changed immeasurably since 2020. This navel gazing is a waste of time. God bless her for stepping up and trying to govern over a bunch of Dem party cannibalizing crybabies, sheās probably looking into her citizenship options elsewhere, canāt say I blame her.
We can't argue that the economy is basically doing fine and expect to win when most Americans can't/barely can make ends meet. Democratic elites don't want to admit that economic inequality is the worst it has been in a century and are consequently easily outflanked by a fake populist right wing. Basically these are the same "mistakes" made by the Clinton campaign. Predictably the DNC prefers to lose than have the left win.
āNow is the time to get up and go hard to the left.ā
BLM and Defund the Police are a big part of why middle America has abandoned the Left and increased Trumps margin of victory.
Turns out that for most voters, Black Lives Matter⦠but the price of a gallon of milk matters a little bit more.
As for those who sat out the election or voted third party as a protest for against Israel: put your money where your mouths are and move to Lebanon to join their fate - which youāve contributed to by facilitating another Trump administration.
@20 -- These ideas are not contradictory. It is pretty clear that the electorate is stupid. Inflation has essentially been eliminated -- due to the hard work of the Democrats -- and yet people think it is still a problem. They ignore the fact that we have the best economy in the world, and (if you include people of color and women) the best economy this country has ever had. But people trusted the rich fucker on the economy, despite experts saying his policies (e. g. tariffs) would increase inflation and are just generally a stupid fucking idea.
We know much of the population is stupid, but the question is what do we do about it? Not much we can do, really. This is fundamentally a Republican country (when you include the electoral college). It has been since Reagan. It takes a major economic catastrophe to elect a Democrat. We just have to hope for another huge recession (or double digit inflation). Then we have to hope that the president is young enough to win reelection.
@24, the Dems fixed inflation? LOL, the rent is still too damn high and fed min wage is stuck at $7.25/hr to pay for ever climbing grocery prices. Those voters sure are dumb with their 60 hour weeks and ballooning personal debt - eye roll - At least own being an elitist.
@24 nobody cares what our GDP is relative to other countries when CPI has risen each of the past four years and as a result people struggle to put food on the table. Glad you've already been called out twice because people who think like you ARE the problem and until those people at the national level figure it out the Dems will keep losing.
What happens now for "the left"? You can either join the resistance or stop calling yourself a liberal/leftist and admit that a certain kind of fascism - centro-fascism, the ideology of the DNC - makes you feel warm and cozy, and accordingly call yourself a fascist. And just settle in like the empty windbags your are. That's most of the toast on this chat space.
Of course, that won't happen. The DNC pols will assure the centrists (which is what most left-identifying folks actually are - it's a form of right-wing fascism) that they're still good people who did the right thing, and it's the fault of evil people - Jill Stein, above all - that they didn't get what they'd been told they should want. These same so-called representatives of the people will promise to do a better job of purging independent votes in the next election cycle, and their supporters will feel a familiar gentle warmth wafting over them, an almost parental assurance that everything was going to be OK. There will then be an outbreak of centrist gatekeeping across social media, as if a computer progammer and timed and executed a command (ex: "Is it alright if I'm not mad at her? #imwithher" - aaaarrrgghhh!). The imbecile conspiracy theory that Jill Stein is a "crypto-right" Russian operative will gain traction and be used to provoke attacks on independent voters and out-and-out red-baiting in bipartisan contexts. Independent voters in high-status positions - professors, CEOS - will be publicly hounded and humiliated. The DNC will continue to pump billions of arms into the Middle East, so that Bibi and Saudia & their stooges can establish fascist monocultures by eliminating minority ethnic groups and even entire countries, if they're not too large. Tolerating this ongoing, multifarious, transnational genocide will be the litmus test for being a "commonsense liberal" and acceptance in the US' fabulous "Land of Democracy." On and on, never ending.
You can resist the genocide - the genocide that commands a near totality of our "national budget" (a laughable term, when one examines the matter) - or be a fascist supporter. That's all that's left for the left.
@5. It would seem so. Don't forget to throw in teachers, lawyers, unionists, poets, & the whole intelligentsia in general. And you forgot Lebanon.
We can talk about this now. But we also need to thank all those who railed about this in opposition to Harris, Biden, et al DURING THE CAMPAIGN like Jayapal & Sawant. Just like when they badmouthed Hillary during her campaign, they must take responsibility for putting Trump in the White House a second time.
Lets see how they like it when Trump is helping Bibi totally clearcut Gaza, Lebanon, AND the West Bank.
@23 - I have lived in the Middle East, and experienced the military aggression of DNC presidents while living there. I also had a chance to see what both parties have in store for us, in the Middle East and elsewhere, if there is no resistance. I additionally had the opportunity to contemplate the vast disparity in coverage of these events inside and outside the US, and the out and out journalistic fraud that occurs in the US when mainstream news sources describe Arab society or culture. If you accepted the reality of what Obama and his cronies did to Syria, you'd slash your own wrists before voting for him again; I accept it because, unlike most Americans, I was privy to its occurrence being covered on the TV, not being in the US at the time.
I think the one who needs to move there is you - it would go a long way toward helping you see the truth.
This again, like when Shrub was elected, convinces me that there is only one way to convince ignorant people that it is better to be governed by people you consider to be slightly (sexually) immoral Democrats rather than by dishonest Republican macho men you aspire to be: Let the Republicans bugger them & steal their money till it really, really hurts. That will teach them enough that they will at least remember it for the mid-terms.
@23, BLM and Defund the Police are frauds like, IMHO, are George Floyd, Sharpton, & Krump. Police have been problematic since the beginning of societies. But claiming that justice/police departments, which are headed by "people of color" (Keith Ellison, Carmen Best, Dominic Choi, Clarence Dickson, Warren Woodfork, Benjamin Ward, et al) are systemically racist is hypocracy just as much as the right preaches.
It's this hypocracy which even liberals like me are sick of that loses elections for the left. We're going to have another round of laws which fill the jails with poor men for nothing more than having a 3rd joint in their pocket.
I point to the phony outrage over the 1994 crime bill. People need to look up the list of black ministers (Two-thirds of the Black Congressional Caucus incl Mfume & Rangel, 58% of the black population, The 10 big-city black mayors, 41 of the most prominent black ministers (https://zfacts.com/black-religious-leaders-backed-1994-crime-bill...not necessarily authoritative, but representative)) who supported.....ney, DEMANDED the 'hated' 1994 Crime Bill. All those young black men who went to jail were put there by their own community's disgust at their own drug fueled behavior. (Which is not to say that Obama wasn't right to let them out.)
Every time a Republican wins the presidency, the same insufferable posts show up on social media: "I am so despondent. I need to do something - where can I volunteer?"
I respond with: "There is no shortage of work to be done in your community. All kinds of non-profits would love to have your enthusiasm. But I get the impression that had the Democrat won, you'd simply go about your business. No reaching out to see if you can contribute to making the world a better place. Why is that? Why did you have no concern for issues in your little corner of the world on November 4th, but suddenly you are seized with passion now? Volunteering is always a good idea, no matter who is president. Why is this such an unpopular concept?"
I then get downvoted to oblivion for suggesting volunteering is always a good thing. Gotta love social media.
Rinse, repeat. Been seeing this happen my entire voting life, or at least since social media. I'm convinced that the more people yap about the state of the world, they less they actually DO to make anything better.
@36 so in your opinion almost all current Black leaders are "frauds" but 1994 Black leaders' opinions on the crime bill are unimpeachable and true until the end of time, new information and reflection be damned. You might think of yourself as a liberal but your expressed opinions are pretty reactionary.
It should come as no great surprise that a Democratic Party which has abandoned working class people would find that the working class has abandoned them.
First, it was the white working class,
and now it is Latino and
Black workers as well.
While the Democratic leadership
defends the status quo, the
American people are angry
and want change. And
theyāre right.
Today, while the very rich are doing
phenomenally well, 60% of Ameri-
cans live paycheck to paycheck
and we have more income
and wealth inequality
than ever before.
Unbelievably, real, inflation-accounted-for
weekly wages for the average American
worker are actually lower now
than they were 50 years ago.
Today, despite an explosion in technology and worker productivity, many young people will have a worse standard of living than their parents.
[marinade in That
for a moment]
And many of them worry that Artificial Intelligence and robotics will make a bad situation even worse.
Today, despite spending far more per capita than other countries, we remain the only wealthy nation not to guarantee health care to all as a human right and we pay, by far, the highest prices in the world for prescription drugs.
[well, Gosh
Bernie, if you cannot
make a Killing off of the Citizenry
then Why even Have a fucking Country]?
We,
alone among
major countries,
cannot even guarantee
paid family and medical leave.
Today, despite strong opposition from a majority of Americans, we continue to spend billions funding the extremist Netanyahu governmentās all out war against the Palestinian people which has led to the horrific humanitarian disaster of mass malnutrition and the starvation of thousands of children.
[I spose in This crowd
That make Bernie an
antifucking Semite?
am I correct thumy?
aināt that what you
ALWAYS SAY]?
Will the big money interests and well-paid consultants who control the Democractic Party learn any real lessons from this disastrous campaign?
[only when it Hits them where it
Counts, Berine ā in the
fucking Wallet ~ til
then, then
Nope].
Will
they understand
the pain and political a-
lienation that tens of millions
of Americans are experiencing?
Do they have any ideas
as to how we can take on the
increasingly powerful Oligarchy
which has so much economic and political power?
Probably not.
[Not
Their
Problem].
In the coming weeks and months
those of us concerned about grassroots
democracy and economic justice need to
have some very serious political discussions.
Stay tuned.
--Senator Bernie Fucking Sanders (I-VT)
thank Gawd we Never elected
THIS GUY ^ in the 1st fucking
Place, eh? not to Worry~ the
āDāNCās Got it under Con-
trol. We Can Trust Them.
oh & Welcome Back
to the Whitehouse,
Mister āpresident.ā
*Bernie sent This
to Me TODAY.
can you Believe it!?
@37
thnx
Slick Willy
Clinton, you mean!
Gawd
Bless the
Triangulation!
selling out
the Middle Class
has its Consequences!
@36: Wait, you think George Floyd was a āfraud?ā What does that even mean, in your mind? You think he could breathe the whole time but just chose not to? š¤£š¤£
pay no nevermind to wormmyās
busy little chatterbox ā this,
to me, is the Left
personified
from the Chris Hedges Report
The Politics of Cultural Despair
It is despair that is killing us. It fosters what the Roger Lancaster calls āpoisoned solidarity,ā the intoxication forged from the negative energies of fear, envy, hatred and a lust for violence.
In the end, the election was about despair. Despair over futures that evaporated with deindustrialization. Despair over the loss of 30 million jobs in mass layoffs.
Despair over austerity programs and the funneling of wealth upwards into the hands of rapacious oligarchs. Despair over a liberal class that refuses to acknowledge the suffering it orchestrated under neoliberalism or embrace New Deal type programs that will ameliorate this suffering.
Despair over the futile, endless wars, as well as the genocide in Gaza, where generals and politicians are never held accountable. Despair over a democratic system that has been seized by corporate and oligarchic power.
Kamala Harris and the Democratic Party, along with the establishment wing of the Republican Party, which allied itself with Harris, live in their own non-reality-based belief system. Harris, who was anointed by party elites and never received a single primary vote, proudly trumpeted her endorsement by Dick Cheney, a politician who left office with a 13 percent approval rating.
The smug, self-righteous āmoralā crusade against Trump stokes the national reality television show that has replaced journalism and politics. It reduces a social, economic and political crisis to the personality of Trump.
It refuses to confront and name the corporate forces responsible for our failed democracy. It allows Democratic politicians to blithely ignore their base - 77 percent of Democrats and 62 percent of independents support an arms embargo against Israel.
The open collusion with corporate oppression and refusal to heed the desires and needs of the electorate neuters the press and Trump critics. These corporate puppets stand for nothing, other than their own advancement.
The lies they tell to working men and women, especially with programs such as the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA), do far more damage than any of the lies uttered by Trump.
--by Chris Hedges; Nov 06, 2024
"landslide, noun:
1) a 312-226 electoral college victory accompanied by the first GOP popular vote win in two decades;
2) something Democrats should learn an important lesson from but probably won't"
@21, @39: Ah, the endless entitled whining of the insufferable Bernie Bro. An octogenarian senator from a tiny state at the edge of our country wouldāve won bigly! Anyone who believes that can believe anything, as you guys apparently exist here to prove.
Well, you, the Stranger, and Sawant all did it. You flat-out lied for an entire year about āgenocide,ā you called the Democratic President āGenocide Joe,ā and you demanded the Democratic VP institute an arms embargo which no president can. Sawant even openly campaigned for Trump, to your silently servile acceptance. Go now and celebrate your great victory over us liberals; youāve earned it, and Horseshoe Theory demands it.
@46: At least youāre now openly getting your facts wrong, instead of just stating your ignorant opinions as facts, and making us dig for your flatulence beneath. Progress!
Three times Trump has asked his fellow New Yorkers for our votes, and three times we have treated him to a humiliating rejection. As always, we wait for the rest of the country to understand we were right all along.
STEWARTSTOWN, PAāWith Donald Trump decisively winning a second term as president, local sources reported this week that those tireless civil rights crusaders werenāt so smug now, were they?
āThis ought to shut up those self-satisfied supporters of civil rights for a while,ā said Trump voter Henry Pluss, stressing that it was about time somebody put those high-and-mighty champions of equality and human dignity in their places.
āRight about now they must feel pretty stupid for strutting around like a better future was possible, huh? Finally, those proponents of social justice regardless of race or creed have been knocked off their high horses, forced to admit their perseverance in the face of oppression was one big ego trip.
Thisāll teach them to try to leave a better world for their children, those condescending pricks!ā Pluss went on to add that he hoped the 2024 election would put a stop to the self-righteous concept of compassion once and for all.
"Joever: Yesterday, Vice President Kamala Harris addressed the nation to concede she had lost the 2024 presidential election.
She kept her remarks very positive, very boilerplate Democrat. If she truly believed Trump is the threat to the American people he is, she should have come for blood. But, no.
The Democrats love to capitulate to the right. And, it's part of why they lost so spectacularly. They championed an extreme and inhumane immigration platform, shrugged their shoulders at Israelās utter decimation of Gaza, and totally abandoned working people crushed by the weight of the affordability crisis.
I know youāre smart and you already know this, but as the #Resist libs start to re-recognize the ever-present threat of fascismāthe precarity of reproductive access, queer and trans liberation, immigrantsā rights, workers protections, and moreāremember that the Democrats' constant sidesteps to the right landed us here."
@49: Still not criticizing Sawant for her successful Trump campaign?
Remember, if you had a core competency, it would be your servile acceptance of true evil, all while loudly lecturing everyone else on our supposed moral failures.
@48 "Three times Trump has asked his fellow New Yorkers for our votes, and three times we have treated him to a humiliating rejection."
Who was President of New York from 2016-2020 and who will be starting in January? I really doubt Trump is feeling very humiliated at the moment, but you should be for writing that nonsense.
@51. Tensor you have embraced wanton and shameless genocide. Your definition is the UN's, and yet you support a rogue state which threw out the UN and is completely annihilating the rest of North Gaza after completing their objectives, in order to clear out the land for settlement. You are the servant of purest evil, and you never fail to subscribe to your own criticism of the far left and never have anything but a quip or two to say about Trump and the far right. You are a shameless menace to all that is right and just. When you leave this world it will be for best and your soul shall suffer for eternity.
Which does not support the claims made here at this site, yes.
āā¦which threw out the UN,ā
If youāre referring to UNRWA, you need to look at the evidence of terrorist infiltration of that agency.
āā¦never have anything but a quip or two to say about Trump and the far right.ā
Iāve said Sawant campaigned for Trump and the far right. Thatās more than every headline poster at this site combined has said on that topic, so you might want to take your criticism to them.
As for the rest, thank you for showing us the reasons you really should have accepted your banishment, and found other hobbies. Your fixation on things you simply cannot change continues to cause you grief. I hope you can do better soon.
'You are the servant of purest evil, and you never fail to subscribe to your own criticism of the far left and never have anything but a quip or two to say about Trump and the far right.
You are a shameless menace to all that is right and just. When you leave this world it will be for best and your soul shall suffer for eternity."
@58 Are you seriously still acting like it wasn't a massive win on his part because he didn't win New York or something? You also failed the New Yorker Don't Constantly Refer to Living in New York Challenge
@60: So, less than 51% of the vote remains a ālandslide,ā then?
And again, we who knew him the best rejected him by a humiliating margin. One might think you, of all persons, would be intimately familiar with that concept.
@59: Garb really needs help, kristoā. Egging on his most self-destructive impulses shows incredible cruelty, even for you.
Youāve advocated for banishment of other commenters; how about you advocate for Garb to accept his banishment, and move on?
calling your
ass out you
meant. and
he's Correct
& you know
it. Bravo, CD.
"Tensor you have embraced wanton and shameless genocide. Your definition is the UN's, and yet you support a rogue state which threw out the UN and is completely annihilating the rest of North Gaza after completing their objectives, in order to clear out the land for settlement."
@62: Garbā has resumed the behaviors which once got him banned. Again, I ask you not to encourage him. He needs to understand his actions here are not good for him, and your compounding his errors seems unlikely to help him understand.
@63. Oh please, cope more with your failure as an existence. Nothing you say to try to ban me can hide the truth from what you have done and continue to do. Your fate is sealed by your own hand.
So, I canāt engage anything you write about āgenocide,ā because I use the definition the entire world has used for 75 years, and you have chosen not to. I stand by my use of the word. Disagreeing with your ad hoc, made up definition of any word doesnāt make anyone a bad person.
ā⦠because
I use the definition the
entire world has used for 75 years⦠ā
utter
fucking
nonsense,
Wormtongue.
Iāve posted Numerous
Examples right Here @tS which
you Always choose to Deny Deny Deny;
even a cursory look at my historyāll bear that out.
āDisagreeing with your ad hoc,
made up definition of any word
doesnāt make anyone a bad person.ā
no one says any-
one's "a bad person,"
wormmy. you merely Support
Evil, at seemingly Every single opportunity.
@67: Youāve weaseled out of every attempt to have an honest dialogue, and even you know it.
Go ahead, provide quotes & urls from your āā¦Numerous
Examples right Here @tS..,ā and maybe include some of the quotes you also claimed to have made, condemning Hamas? Because the last time you tried that, you found absolutely nothing.
hereās a query for our Resident
grammar nazi ā would you say el-
trumpfsfter is or aināt a actual Nazi?
from
In the Public Interest
Electing
an American
Fuhrer as Wall
Street Cheers & Soars
On September 17, 1787, the last day after the drafting of our Constitution in Philadelphia, Ben Franklin was leaving the building when a prominent resident, Elizabeth Willing Powel, asked him āWell Doctor, what have we got ā a republic or a monarch?ā Franklin replied, āA republic, if you can keep it.ā
On November 5, 2024, our fragile Republic became a Monarchy-elect. A majority of voters elected a Dictator. This is no exaggeration. Look at just some of the damage Trump has done and the appalling things he has said. In July 2019, he declared āWith Article II, I can do whatever I want as president.ā
And he did, throughout his four years, he violated all kinds of federal laws and provisions of the Constitution, mostly openly, with impunity. He obstructed justice from the White House as a way of life. He defied over 125 Congressional subpoenas.
He is a very successful fugitive from justice with lawyers skilled at endlessly delaying judges and courts where federal and state prosecutors have obtained indictments.
His convictions and adverse civil verdicts are like water on a duckās back.
He openly admires foreign dictators and meets with them proudly, musing about wanting to be more like them. Moreover, he is gathering around him a large number of vengeful, dictatorial Trumpsters readying to take over the federal departments and agencies.
The Heritage Foundationās Project 2025, 900-page report prepared a detailed blueprint for the corporate state that is the definition of fascism, American style.
Together with Trump, they have their āenemies listā both individually and collectively.
In speech after speech, Trump, Vance, and others have spoken as if they will have boundless power after January 20, 2025. They are not wrong.
They control the compliant Republican House and the Senate. The U.S. Supreme Court (6 to 3) decided fanatically last June that a presidentās āofficialā conduct no matter how extreme was immune from criminal prosecution.
Three of the Justices were Trumpās nominees.
--by Ralph Nader; November 8, 2024
oodles more of the travesty
aka āCitizens Fucking Unitedā:
@Garb: The moderators of this very blog have already decided that when you leave it, that will be for the best. You have loudly rejected their judgement. Why, then, should you expect anyone here to care about your judgement? True, it's not a symmetrical comparison; the moderators here can enforce their judgement upon you, yet again, any time they like, whereas you can do nothing of any kind whatsoever to enforce yours. (Also, that kristo' alone agrees with your judgement should function as a shriekingly undeniable indicator of the real value of said judgement. Yet, you continue here asserting the value of your opinion, in the very place you have been told your opinion is not valued.)
@69: Yet again, you assert your own words support you, and yet again, you cannot find any evidence for your assertion. No one of sound mind will risk contact with your ever-spewing volcano of gonorrhoeal logorrhea, especially with the foreknowledge it absolutely lacks the value you falsely ascribe to it.
Speaking of 'checking up on math,' you managed to miss almost half of my comments (https://www.thestranger.com/users/2402388/tensor). So good to see you are, in fact, capable of actually reaching all the way around to doing a (literally) half-assed job once in a while. Must be a nice break from your constant failathon concerning your own worthless words.
small Wonder
Wormtongue seeks
to have CDizzle excom-
municated when the Latter
amongst the oodles of others
can See thru his obfuscations and
rationalizations and call him out for
the insidious, hateful
Distractions he so
often brings to
these pages
You GO,
CDizzle, Garbby
"averagebob," barth
COMTE auntie Gee and
Hosts of others unwilling
to allow Wormtongue free
reign for his oftimes Monstrous
pov. the World'll be a
Better Place with
wormmy some-
where's Else.
Thatās actually what youāre doing: egging on behavior very similar to what got him banned the last time he did it. Iām merely noting it might get him banned again. Do with that what you will, but donāt blame me if his very similar behavior results in exactly the same consequence.
Thank the benevolent powers that be that Washington State mercifully remains blue and the Sane Washington.
I have no desire to venture much of anywhere east of the Cascades.
Go, SuperBob, GO--kick ass, take names, and congratulations on the checkmate on the "I Caught the Green River Killer!" Clown Car Captain Dave Third Reichert.
And YAY to Marie Gluesenkamp Perez for handily beating devoted Trump sock puppet Joe Kent in the 3rd District for the second time. One would think RepubliKKKans would realize that fascism, misogyny, and systematic racism aren't the way to effectively govern.
With the exception of MAGA red "Drill baby, drill" Alaska, I wonder if the West Coast (Washington, Oregon, California, and Hawaii specifically) will secede from the looming Trump fascist union. Alaska is so close to Russia, and used to be a Russian Territory.
The Orange Turd is so mentally deranged what would stop it from sending the 49th State gift wrapped "With Love" to Vladimir Putin?
@16 boatgeek and @18 thirteen12 et al: I believe a big reason why we're stuck with a twice impeached, convicted felon and neofascist Putin butt kisser for a second term is because too many idiots in this country are too chickenshit to ever elect a qualified woman President of these Divided States of MAGA Confusion.
@38, I'm retired and some times I have nothing better to do than watch TV & YouTube. To the best of my knowledge I've seen every second of every video taken of the police's interactions with Floyd & most of his trial.
I think George Floyd was a junkie counterfeiter who died from a combination of exhausting himself, due to his dilapidated physical condition caused by years of drug use, & the drugs in his system at that time. The police most certainly had the right to arrest him based on his participation in an organized criminal attempt to pass counterfeit money to be used to finance drug purchases. (Organized crime doesn't always look like Don Corleone & the Five Families siting around an oak table in a mansion.)
Floyd was a fraud because the claustrophobia manure was evident: He was sitting in a slightly smaller vehicle with 2 or 3 other people doing just fine. But then started screaming "claustrophobia," & "I can't breathe," when the police tried to put him in a slightly larger vehicle......by himself. Crap.
If he couldn't breathe when they had him on the ground, that's just too damn bad. Watch the tapes: Every time the police tried to loosen their grip & cut him some slack, he fought even harder. And Floyd wasn't just trying to avoid arrest or restraint. Among other episodes, there's a place in the videos, when they had him almost horizontal in the back of the police car where he clearly tried to kick one of the officers in the face. And I mean kick, not bump. Floyd looked straight at the officer and kicked (as hard as he could it looked to me).
THERE WAS NOTHING THE POLICE DID TO GEORGE FLOYD THAT THEY WOULDN'T ROUTINELY DO TO ANY WHITE MAN FOR THE SAME CRIMES. I can say that with good authority as I was a pretty large pain in the ass when I was younger and I had plenty of interactions with the Chicago police. On a number of occasions I only avoided the exact same treatment Floyd got because as soon as I realized the plainclothes men were police, I played dead & didn't resist even one iota. That includes having police point their service weapons at me (real guns, not tasers. This was all before stun guns were invented.) And all my offenses were only in the disturbing the peace class. I was never into any serious crime......and make no mistake, counterfeiting is the big time, even if only for $20. Rent the movie The Art Of Counterfeiting. It's about a real guy named Art. He passed millions, $100 at a time. I'm sure this wasn't Floyd's first rodeo. And as they say, If you can't do the time, don't do the crime. I went to court. I paid the lawyers. I paid my fines. And I just generally never made any trouble that I couldn't buy my way out of. Floyd just didn't want to pay the bill.
And I don't want to hear any of that crap that Floyd didn't deserve to die over a $20 crime. Floyd died because he was a junkie who tried to kick police officers in the face. Anyone who can't understand that attacking police officers will get you killed needs their head examined. And there's a warm spot in hell for all the YouTubers who are giving permission to all the dummies out there who want to argue with the police. I'm not talking about the real lawyers who have YouTube channels giving first & fourth amendment advice. I'm talking about the ones who encourage dummies to argue with police over every word.
Derek Chauvin got thrown under the bus. If you watched his trial, he had a meek lawyer, a jury that's never been out on the street or a victim of a crime, and the prosecution called in all Chauvin's bosses to dump on him. All these bosses were responsible for putting Chauvin in his job as a training officer. All these bosses have approved for years of the job Chauvin was doing. All these bosses sang the mantra of how law enforcement is systemically racist while they pull the levers of that very same system. THE ATTNY GENERAL OF MN IS KEITH ELLISON, A BLACK MAN. There are black police chiefs all over the USA. Black men & women. There are black mayors all over the USA. Black men & women. How can anyone say that a system is racist when it is run, in large part by black men & women? (The answer is easy: There's money, jobs, political power, & jury awards that are easier to get by crying racism than by working for a living. And I'm not saying there's no such thing as racism. But the mantra that the entire US judicial system is racist is a scam.)
The reason IMHO all these law enforcement officials threw Chauvin under the bus is because Sharpton & Crump Inc told them that they could either pay Floyd's family (After Sharpton & Crump took their cut) $29Mil, or they could unleash $100Mil of damage & destruction on the city of Minneapolis. All Chauvin's bosses & superiors saw their jobs gone next election if they let the city burn, so they paid the extortion.........with OTHER PEOPLE'S (taxpayer) MONEY. (It was reported that the lawyers for the Floyd family, including Ben Crump and Antonio Romanucci, would receive around $8.5 million to $10 million from the $20 million allocated to the Floyd family, with some reports suggesting that the amount could be as high as $12 million to $15 million for the lawyers, but the exact amount is not certain.......per Llama 3.1 70B, my local neighborhood AI. That means Sharpton, Crump, & Romanucci took MORE money for themselves than the $7Mil that was allocated for the entire community it was donated to. And people think Trump knows how to scam a charity!) Civil rights settlements that involve community riots are nothing but extortion.
You should have heard all Chauvin's bosses squeal in delight when they threw him under the bus from the witness stand in court. They never heard of Chauvin. Chauvin was a rogue cop. They had no idea of how Chauvin got his job. They had nothing to do with Chauvin. St Peter couldn't have done it better when he denied knowing Christ. Pilate couldn't have done it better when he washed his hands of Christ. And I don't have all that much sympathy for Chauvin. But don't EVEN try to tell me that George Floyd was a poor unfortunate or that Derek Chauvin was an out of control, racist cop.
Nice write up, Charles. Indeed, nothing mattered. He's bulletproof. And men love that shit.
Mudede was exactly who we needed on this morning.
Just an idea, but possibly have an open primary next time? Instead of letting party bosses pick a successor.
@1. "Men."
Boys.
Well, guess Gaza and Ukraine are fucked, right along with women and people of color in the US.
Never underestimate how much this country hates both...
@3, advice you can bring with you in your time machine !
Glad to see some clear headed comments and a whole lot less hand wringing and name calling than last round. Maybe we all wake up to the fact that weāre on our own, our government will not save us.
LOL, I spoke too soon.
Bob Ferguson's name is misspelled in the post title.
@3 There wasn't time for an open primary between when Biden left the race and when it needed to be settled at the convention.
@5: Yet Donald's gains among people of color in Philadelphia and Detroit (and NYC even) blunts that view. Immigration and inflation is what it's more about, not just underlying bigotry and misogyny - as they're always ever present.
But don't despair. Dems always turn Congress around in the midterms and there's plenty of time for the next young candidate to take on Vance in 2026.
Weed and xanax is my day.
I came here hoping for Charles and this is exactly what I needed to read. And Parable too of course.
Sure, go further left because we're so much better off without right leaning Democrats like Manchin and Tester, right?
https://youtu.be/GjKzFihYYf0?feature=shared
Cons supported him because he partied with pedos, because he wanted to date his daughter, because heās racist to the core, and because heās a fascist.
They voted him for those reasons, not in spite of them.
@8, So how is taking those maximalist positions working out for Progressives? How is pushing the middle, who decide our elections, too far going?
Nope, I didn't persuade many of those swing state voters. But unlike you, I do know which Democrats to support and which to not to (and what positions to support, and which not to), if I don't want Trump, or a Trump clone, to expand his vote total and base, while Harris didn't do as well in even deep blue states, as Biden did in 2020.
As the Stone's so aptly put it, "You can't always get what you want." Will you settle for "what you need," to avoid disasters like yesterday?
But what about mentioning Pramila Jayapal? - She got 85% of vote & is fantastic!!!
@14 How did tacking to the middle work for Harris? It's hard to get more middle than campaigning with Liz Cheney.
I will absolutely settle for the best I can get. I always have, and have always advocated for that. You seem to have mistaken me for someone else. I didn't love Biden, but I absolutely supported him once he was the nominee.
Come back when you know why 15 million Democrats who showed up for Biden didn't show for Harris.
@14 "How is pushing the middle, who decide our elections, too far going?"
Did you mean to write "pushing too far to the middle?" We're talking about the Democrat candidate who campaigned with Liz Cheney and promised to put a Republican in her cabinet right?
@16 beat me to it.
The national party coalescing around Biden in 2016 because they couldn't accept Bernie possibly being the nominee was the root of this ultimate defeat. He was unsurprisingly unpopular as President and had too big an ego to get out of the way until forced, and break-in-case-of-emergency candidate Kamala couldn't differentiate herself enough from his record to win. Any other purported explanation is just distraction from the DNC's (latest) colossal failure.
@16, did you not even read the article. IT DOESNT MATTER. Inflation stings and the world has changed immeasurably since 2020. This navel gazing is a waste of time. God bless her for stepping up and trying to govern over a bunch of Dem party cannibalizing crybabies, sheās probably looking into her citizenship options elsewhere, canāt say I blame her.
"If you're on the losing side of a landslide, there are two ways to react:
1) Eat the humble pie, listen, self-reflect, evolve, and come back better next time
2) Arrogantly proclaim that everyone is dumb except us, continue as you are, and make the same mistakes next time."
We can't argue that the economy is basically doing fine and expect to win when most Americans can't/barely can make ends meet. Democratic elites don't want to admit that economic inequality is the worst it has been in a century and are consequently easily outflanked by a fake populist right wing. Basically these are the same "mistakes" made by the Clinton campaign. Predictably the DNC prefers to lose than have the left win.
@18 + @21: - Agree!
āNow is the time to get up and go hard to the left.ā
BLM and Defund the Police are a big part of why middle America has abandoned the Left and increased Trumps margin of victory.
Turns out that for most voters, Black Lives Matter⦠but the price of a gallon of milk matters a little bit more.
As for those who sat out the election or voted third party as a protest for against Israel: put your money where your mouths are and move to Lebanon to join their fate - which youāve contributed to by facilitating another Trump administration.
@20 -- These ideas are not contradictory. It is pretty clear that the electorate is stupid. Inflation has essentially been eliminated -- due to the hard work of the Democrats -- and yet people think it is still a problem. They ignore the fact that we have the best economy in the world, and (if you include people of color and women) the best economy this country has ever had. But people trusted the rich fucker on the economy, despite experts saying his policies (e. g. tariffs) would increase inflation and are just generally a stupid fucking idea.
We know much of the population is stupid, but the question is what do we do about it? Not much we can do, really. This is fundamentally a Republican country (when you include the electoral college). It has been since Reagan. It takes a major economic catastrophe to elect a Democrat. We just have to hope for another huge recession (or double digit inflation). Then we have to hope that the president is young enough to win reelection.
Simply put,
The Left needs to stop saving the rigjt from themselves.
@24, the Dems fixed inflation? LOL, the rent is still too damn high and fed min wage is stuck at $7.25/hr to pay for ever climbing grocery prices. Those voters sure are dumb with their 60 hour weeks and ballooning personal debt - eye roll - At least own being an elitist.
It would have been nice if Fucking Merrick Garland hadn't waited FUCKING YEARS to start investigating that toxic sack of treason.
@24 Have you tried talking down to people and calling them stupid more?
@24 nobody cares what our GDP is relative to other countries when CPI has risen each of the past four years and as a result people struggle to put food on the table. Glad you've already been called out twice because people who think like you ARE the problem and until those people at the national level figure it out the Dems will keep losing.
@20: Nationally, the vote was pretty even; as of this moment, Trump has less than 51%.
By contrast, Trump lost by a landslide in Seattle. He lost by a landslide in the State of New York, where I live.
While youāre shoveling down your humble pie there in Seattle, have you any advice for us landslide winners elsewhere?
What happens now for "the left"? You can either join the resistance or stop calling yourself a liberal/leftist and admit that a certain kind of fascism - centro-fascism, the ideology of the DNC - makes you feel warm and cozy, and accordingly call yourself a fascist. And just settle in like the empty windbags your are. That's most of the toast on this chat space.
Of course, that won't happen. The DNC pols will assure the centrists (which is what most left-identifying folks actually are - it's a form of right-wing fascism) that they're still good people who did the right thing, and it's the fault of evil people - Jill Stein, above all - that they didn't get what they'd been told they should want. These same so-called representatives of the people will promise to do a better job of purging independent votes in the next election cycle, and their supporters will feel a familiar gentle warmth wafting over them, an almost parental assurance that everything was going to be OK. There will then be an outbreak of centrist gatekeeping across social media, as if a computer progammer and timed and executed a command (ex: "Is it alright if I'm not mad at her? #imwithher" - aaaarrrgghhh!). The imbecile conspiracy theory that Jill Stein is a "crypto-right" Russian operative will gain traction and be used to provoke attacks on independent voters and out-and-out red-baiting in bipartisan contexts. Independent voters in high-status positions - professors, CEOS - will be publicly hounded and humiliated. The DNC will continue to pump billions of arms into the Middle East, so that Bibi and Saudia & their stooges can establish fascist monocultures by eliminating minority ethnic groups and even entire countries, if they're not too large. Tolerating this ongoing, multifarious, transnational genocide will be the litmus test for being a "commonsense liberal" and acceptance in the US' fabulous "Land of Democracy." On and on, never ending.
You can resist the genocide - the genocide that commands a near totality of our "national budget" (a laughable term, when one examines the matter) - or be a fascist supporter. That's all that's left for the left.
@31, love me some binary thinking (but use more words)
@5. It would seem so. Don't forget to throw in teachers, lawyers, unionists, poets, & the whole intelligentsia in general. And you forgot Lebanon.
We can talk about this now. But we also need to thank all those who railed about this in opposition to Harris, Biden, et al DURING THE CAMPAIGN like Jayapal & Sawant. Just like when they badmouthed Hillary during her campaign, they must take responsibility for putting Trump in the White House a second time.
Lets see how they like it when Trump is helping Bibi totally clearcut Gaza, Lebanon, AND the West Bank.
@23 - I have lived in the Middle East, and experienced the military aggression of DNC presidents while living there. I also had a chance to see what both parties have in store for us, in the Middle East and elsewhere, if there is no resistance. I additionally had the opportunity to contemplate the vast disparity in coverage of these events inside and outside the US, and the out and out journalistic fraud that occurs in the US when mainstream news sources describe Arab society or culture. If you accepted the reality of what Obama and his cronies did to Syria, you'd slash your own wrists before voting for him again; I accept it because, unlike most Americans, I was privy to its occurrence being covered on the TV, not being in the US at the time.
I think the one who needs to move there is you - it would go a long way toward helping you see the truth.
This again, like when Shrub was elected, convinces me that there is only one way to convince ignorant people that it is better to be governed by people you consider to be slightly (sexually) immoral Democrats rather than by dishonest Republican macho men you aspire to be: Let the Republicans bugger them & steal their money till it really, really hurts. That will teach them enough that they will at least remember it for the mid-terms.
@23, BLM and Defund the Police are frauds like, IMHO, are George Floyd, Sharpton, & Krump. Police have been problematic since the beginning of societies. But claiming that justice/police departments, which are headed by "people of color" (Keith Ellison, Carmen Best, Dominic Choi, Clarence Dickson, Warren Woodfork, Benjamin Ward, et al) are systemically racist is hypocracy just as much as the right preaches.
It's this hypocracy which even liberals like me are sick of that loses elections for the left. We're going to have another round of laws which fill the jails with poor men for nothing more than having a 3rd joint in their pocket.
I point to the phony outrage over the 1994 crime bill. People need to look up the list of black ministers (Two-thirds of the Black Congressional Caucus incl Mfume & Rangel, 58% of the black population, The 10 big-city black mayors, 41 of the most prominent black ministers (https://zfacts.com/black-religious-leaders-backed-1994-crime-bill...not necessarily authoritative, but representative)) who supported.....ney, DEMANDED the 'hated' 1994 Crime Bill. All those young black men who went to jail were put there by their own community's disgust at their own drug fueled behavior. (Which is not to say that Obama wasn't right to let them out.)
Every time a Republican wins the presidency, the same insufferable posts show up on social media: "I am so despondent. I need to do something - where can I volunteer?"
I respond with: "There is no shortage of work to be done in your community. All kinds of non-profits would love to have your enthusiasm. But I get the impression that had the Democrat won, you'd simply go about your business. No reaching out to see if you can contribute to making the world a better place. Why is that? Why did you have no concern for issues in your little corner of the world on November 4th, but suddenly you are seized with passion now? Volunteering is always a good idea, no matter who is president. Why is this such an unpopular concept?"
I then get downvoted to oblivion for suggesting volunteering is always a good thing. Gotta love social media.
Rinse, repeat. Been seeing this happen my entire voting life, or at least since social media. I'm convinced that the more people yap about the state of the world, they less they actually DO to make anything better.
Ha ha. Every word Charles wrote is a lie, including "and" and "the."
Oh the sweet, sweet schadenfreude. Thanks, Democrats.
@36 so in your opinion almost all current Black leaders are "frauds" but 1994 Black leaders' opinions on the crime bill are unimpeachable and true until the end of time, new information and reflection be damned. You might think of yourself as a liberal but your expressed opinions are pretty reactionary.
dear kristofarian
[Bernieās always so Formal],
this is Bernieās latest
Missive* to Me:
It should come as no great surprise that a Democratic Party which has abandoned working class people would find that the working class has abandoned them.
First, it was the white working class,
and now it is Latino and
Black workers as well.
While the Democratic leadership
defends the status quo, the
American people are angry
and want change. And
theyāre right.
Today, while the very rich are doing
phenomenally well, 60% of Ameri-
cans live paycheck to paycheck
and we have more income
and wealth inequality
than ever before.
Unbelievably, real, inflation-accounted-for
weekly wages for the average American
worker are actually lower now
than they were 50 years ago.
Today, despite an explosion in technology and worker productivity, many young people will have a worse standard of living than their parents.
[marinade in That
for a moment]
And many of them worry that Artificial Intelligence and robotics will make a bad situation even worse.
Today, despite spending far more per capita than other countries, we remain the only wealthy nation not to guarantee health care to all as a human right and we pay, by far, the highest prices in the world for prescription drugs.
[well, Gosh
Bernie, if you cannot
make a Killing off of the Citizenry
then Why even Have a fucking Country]?
We,
alone among
major countries,
cannot even guarantee
paid family and medical leave.
Today, despite strong opposition from a majority of Americans, we continue to spend billions funding the extremist Netanyahu governmentās all out war against the Palestinian people which has led to the horrific humanitarian disaster of mass malnutrition and the starvation of thousands of children.
[I spose in This crowd
That make Bernie an
antifucking Semite?
am I correct thumy?
aināt that what you
ALWAYS SAY]?
Will the big money interests and well-paid consultants who control the Democractic Party learn any real lessons from this disastrous campaign?
[only when it Hits them where it
Counts, Berine ā in the
fucking Wallet ~ til
then, then
Nope].
Will
they understand
the pain and political a-
lienation that tens of millions
of Americans are experiencing?
Do they have any ideas
as to how we can take on the
increasingly powerful Oligarchy
which has so much economic and political power?
Probably not.
[Not
Their
Problem].
In the coming weeks and months
those of us concerned about grassroots
democracy and economic justice need to
have some very serious political discussions.
Stay tuned.
--Senator Bernie Fucking Sanders (I-VT)
thank Gawd we Never elected
THIS GUY ^ in the 1st fucking
Place, eh? not to Worry~ the
āDāNCās Got it under Con-
trol. We Can Trust Them.
oh & Welcome Back
to the Whitehouse,
Mister āpresident.ā
*Bernie sent This
to Me TODAY.
can you Believe it!?
@37
thnx
Slick Willy
Clinton, you mean!
Gawd
Bless the
Triangulation!
selling out
the Middle Class
has its Consequences!
like elections
they gonna
make it a
Schweep?
@36: Wait, you think George Floyd was a āfraud?ā What does that even mean, in your mind? You think he could breathe the whole time but just chose not to? š¤£š¤£
@31: āCentro-fasiscm?ā Ha ha ha, we get a lot of bad political science in these comments, but you are raising things to a new level! š
@21
"Predictably
the DNC prefers to
lose than have the left win."
Bingo.
@31
Bravo.
"Predictably the ["]D["]NC
prefers to lose than
have the left win."
--@21
fucking
Bingo.
@28: Have you tried looking up what the word, ālandslide,ā means?
pay no nevermind to wormmyās
busy little chatterbox ā this,
to me, is the Left
personified
from the Chris Hedges Report
The Politics of Cultural Despair
It is despair that is killing us. It fosters what the Roger Lancaster calls āpoisoned solidarity,ā the intoxication forged from the negative energies of fear, envy, hatred and a lust for violence.
In the end, the election was about despair. Despair over futures that evaporated with deindustrialization. Despair over the loss of 30 million jobs in mass layoffs.
Despair over austerity programs and the funneling of wealth upwards into the hands of rapacious oligarchs. Despair over a liberal class that refuses to acknowledge the suffering it orchestrated under neoliberalism or embrace New Deal type programs that will ameliorate this suffering.
Despair over the futile, endless wars, as well as the genocide in Gaza, where generals and politicians are never held accountable. Despair over a democratic system that has been seized by corporate and oligarchic power.
Kamala Harris and the Democratic Party, along with the establishment wing of the Republican Party, which allied itself with Harris, live in their own non-reality-based belief system. Harris, who was anointed by party elites and never received a single primary vote, proudly trumpeted her endorsement by Dick Cheney, a politician who left office with a 13 percent approval rating.
The smug, self-righteous āmoralā crusade against Trump stokes the national reality television show that has replaced journalism and politics. It reduces a social, economic and political crisis to the personality of Trump.
It refuses to confront and name the corporate forces responsible for our failed democracy. It allows Democratic politicians to blithely ignore their base - 77 percent of Democrats and 62 percent of independents support an arms embargo against Israel.
The open collusion with corporate oppression and refusal to heed the desires and needs of the electorate neuters the press and Trump critics. These corporate puppets stand for nothing, other than their own advancement.
The lies they tell to working men and women, especially with programs such as the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA), do far more damage than any of the lies uttered by Trump.
--by Chris Hedges; Nov 06, 2024
oodles more:
https://chrishedges.substack.com/p/the-politics-of-cultural-despair
@44 I checked the dictionary and it said:
"landslide, noun:
1) a 312-226 electoral college victory accompanied by the first GOP popular vote win in two decades;
2) something Democrats should learn an important lesson from but probably won't"
@39 b
was for
@37 b
@21, @39: Ah, the endless entitled whining of the insufferable Bernie Bro. An octogenarian senator from a tiny state at the edge of our country wouldāve won bigly! Anyone who believes that can believe anything, as you guys apparently exist here to prove.
Well, you, the Stranger, and Sawant all did it. You flat-out lied for an entire year about āgenocide,ā you called the Democratic President āGenocide Joe,ā and you demanded the Democratic VP institute an arms embargo which no president can. Sawant even openly campaigned for Trump, to your silently servile acceptance. Go now and celebrate your great victory over us liberals; youāve earned it, and Horseshoe Theory demands it.
@46: At least youāre now openly getting your facts wrong, instead of just stating your ignorant opinions as facts, and making us dig for your flatulence beneath. Progress!
Three times Trump has asked his fellow New Yorkers for our votes, and three times we have treated him to a humiliating rejection. As always, we wait for the rest of the country to understand we were right all along.
@48
still Gloating,
Wormtongue?
Tireless Civil Rights Crusaders Not So Smug Now
STEWARTSTOWN, PAāWith Donald Trump decisively winning a second term as president, local sources reported this week that those tireless civil rights crusaders werenāt so smug now, were they?
āThis ought to shut up those self-satisfied supporters of civil rights for a while,ā said Trump voter Henry Pluss, stressing that it was about time somebody put those high-and-mighty champions of equality and human dignity in their places.
āRight about now they must feel pretty stupid for strutting around like a better future was possible, huh? Finally, those proponents of social justice regardless of race or creed have been knocked off their high horses, forced to admit their perseverance in the face of oppression was one big ego trip.
Thisāll teach them to try to leave a better world for their children, those condescending pricks!ā Pluss went on to add that he hoped the 2024 election would put a stop to the self-righteous concept of compassion once and for all.
https://theonion.com/tireless-civil-rights-crusaders-not-so-smug-now/
yeah
I'll take
Bernie S
& Chris H
over our dear
Wormtingue any
Day of the Week.
ok.
wormmy:
"Joever: Yesterday, Vice President Kamala Harris addressed the nation to concede she had lost the 2024 presidential election.
She kept her remarks very positive, very boilerplate Democrat. If she truly believed Trump is the threat to the American people he is, she should have come for blood. But, no.
The Democrats love to capitulate to the right. And, it's part of why they lost so spectacularly. They championed an extreme and inhumane immigration platform, shrugged their shoulders at Israelās utter decimation of Gaza, and totally abandoned working people crushed by the weight of the affordability crisis.
I know youāre smart and you already know this, but as the #Resist libs start to re-recognize the ever-present threat of fascismāthe precarity of reproductive access, queer and trans liberation, immigrantsā rights, workers protections, and moreāremember that the Democrats' constant sidesteps to the right landed us here."
--@tS's Schlogg AM; today!
@49: Still not criticizing Sawant for her successful Trump campaign?
Remember, if you had a core competency, it would be your servile acceptance of true evil, all while loudly lecturing everyone else on our supposed moral failures.
@51
our dearest wormmy
thee master Projectionist
Lecturing the commentariat
just
Another
Day in fuck-
ing Paradise.
@48 "Three times Trump has asked his fellow New Yorkers for our votes, and three times we have treated him to a humiliating rejection."
Who was President of New York from 2016-2020 and who will be starting in January? I really doubt Trump is feeling very humiliated at the moment, but you should be for writing that nonsense.
@53: Fifteen million fewer votes cast than in 2020. Feel the landslide!
Just pointing out that we who know him best have rejected him repeatedly. (I might hope that you would understand that very, very well.)
@51. Tensor you have embraced wanton and shameless genocide. Your definition is the UN's, and yet you support a rogue state which threw out the UN and is completely annihilating the rest of North Gaza after completing their objectives, in order to clear out the land for settlement. You are the servant of purest evil, and you never fail to subscribe to your own criticism of the far left and never have anything but a quip or two to say about Trump and the far right. You are a shameless menace to all that is right and just. When you leave this world it will be for best and your soul shall suffer for eternity.
@55: āYour definition is the UN's,ā
Which does not support the claims made here at this site, yes.
āā¦which threw out the UN,ā
If youāre referring to UNRWA, you need to look at the evidence of terrorist infiltration of that agency.
āā¦never have anything but a quip or two to say about Trump and the far right.ā
Iāve said Sawant campaigned for Trump and the far right. Thatās more than every headline poster at this site combined has said on that topic, so you might want to take your criticism to them.
As for the rest, thank you for showing us the reasons you really should have accepted your banishment, and found other hobbies. Your fixation on things you simply cannot change continues to cause you grief. I hope you can do better soon.
"Liberals never accept any blame for their losses.
They insist that they only lost because the US is too filled with stupid and bigoted people to have recognized the greatness of the Dem candidate.
Then they wonder why the country sees them as snide, patronizing assholes."
@57: So, less than 51% of the vote remains a ālandslide,ā then?
(If so, youāre in good company; see @46.)
'You are the servant of purest evil, and you never fail to subscribe to your own criticism of the far left and never have anything but a quip or two to say about Trump and the far right.
You are a shameless menace to all that is right and just. When you leave this world it will be for best and your soul shall suffer for eternity."
Bravisssimo, CDizzle.
fucking Bravissimo.
@58 Are you seriously still acting like it wasn't a massive win on his part because he didn't win New York or something? You also failed the New Yorker Don't Constantly Refer to Living in New York Challenge
@60: So, less than 51% of the vote remains a ālandslide,ā then?
And again, we who knew him the best rejected him by a humiliating margin. One might think you, of all persons, would be intimately familiar with that concept.
@59: Garb really needs help, kristoā. Egging on his most self-destructive impulses shows incredible cruelty, even for you.
Youāve advocated for banishment of other commenters; how about you advocate for Garb to accept his banishment, and move on?
'eggging on,'
wormtongue?
calling your
ass out you
meant. and
he's Correct
& you know
it. Bravo, CD.
"Tensor you have embraced wanton and shameless genocide. Your definition is the UN's, and yet you support a rogue state which threw out the UN and is completely annihilating the rest of North Gaza after completing their objectives, in order to clear out the land for settlement."
and you
Know it.
a stain you
are to these
pages.
@62: Garbā has resumed the behaviors which once got him banned. Again, I ask you not to encourage him. He needs to understand his actions here are not good for him, and your compounding his errors seems unlikely to help him understand.
@63. Oh please, cope more with your failure as an existence. Nothing you say to try to ban me can hide the truth from what you have done and continue to do. Your fate is sealed by your own hand.
as 'gifted' as it is
the Wormtongue's
battles for the Wrong
Side gotta be Pathological
seek
Help
wormmy
or go join
nutnyahoo
he could Use
a Lotta youse:
he already Has.
Garb@64: Youāve already been banned. You really should think about why that happened.
As for your use of āgenocide,ā you told us you have your own personal definition:
āI know it when I see it.ā
(https://www.thestranger.com/guest-editorial/2024/04/24/79483068/why-we-held-seder-in-the-streets-this-year/comments/63)
So, I canāt engage anything you write about āgenocide,ā because I use the definition the entire world has used for 75 years, and you have chosen not to. I stand by my use of the word. Disagreeing with your ad hoc, made up definition of any word doesnāt make anyone a bad person.
ā⦠because
I use the definition the
entire world has used for 75 years⦠ā
utter
fucking
nonsense,
Wormtongue.
Iāve posted Numerous
Examples right Here @tS which
you Always choose to Deny Deny Deny;
even a cursory look at my historyāll bear that out.
āDisagreeing with your ad hoc,
made up definition of any word
doesnāt make anyone a bad person.ā
no one says any-
one's "a bad person,"
wormmy. you merely Support
Evil, at seemingly Every single opportunity.
@67: Youāve weaseled out of every attempt to have an honest dialogue, and even you know it.
Go ahead, provide quotes & urls from your āā¦Numerous
Examples right Here @tS..,ā and maybe include some of the quotes you also claimed to have made, condemning Hamas? Because the last time you tried that, you found absolutely nothing.
@68 yet
another Lie
from Wormtongue's
apparently Bottomeless pit.
pass.
but here's my
Comment History
for those so Inclined:
https://www.thestranger.com/users/25419161/kristofarian
oh and donāt
forget (if youāve
the Stomach for it) to
check up on wormmyās āmathā too:
https://www.thestranger.com/users/76969210/tensorna
good luck!
& don't
Forget
Your
barf
bag
hereās a query for our Resident
grammar nazi ā would you say el-
trumpfsfter is or aināt a actual Nazi?
from
In the Public Interest
Electing
an American
Fuhrer as Wall
Street Cheers & Soars
On September 17, 1787, the last day after the drafting of our Constitution in Philadelphia, Ben Franklin was leaving the building when a prominent resident, Elizabeth Willing Powel, asked him āWell Doctor, what have we got ā a republic or a monarch?ā Franklin replied, āA republic, if you can keep it.ā
On November 5, 2024, our fragile Republic became a Monarchy-elect. A majority of voters elected a Dictator. This is no exaggeration. Look at just some of the damage Trump has done and the appalling things he has said. In July 2019, he declared āWith Article II, I can do whatever I want as president.ā
And he did, throughout his four years, he violated all kinds of federal laws and provisions of the Constitution, mostly openly, with impunity. He obstructed justice from the White House as a way of life. He defied over 125 Congressional subpoenas.
He is a very successful fugitive from justice with lawyers skilled at endlessly delaying judges and courts where federal and state prosecutors have obtained indictments.
His convictions and adverse civil verdicts are like water on a duckās back.
He openly admires foreign dictators and meets with them proudly, musing about wanting to be more like them. Moreover, he is gathering around him a large number of vengeful, dictatorial Trumpsters readying to take over the federal departments and agencies.
The Heritage Foundationās Project 2025, 900-page report prepared a detailed blueprint for the corporate state that is the definition of fascism, American style.
Together with Trump, they have their āenemies listā both individually and collectively.
In speech after speech, Trump, Vance, and others have spoken as if they will have boundless power after January 20, 2025. They are not wrong.
They control the compliant Republican House and the Senate. The U.S. Supreme Court (6 to 3) decided fanatically last June that a presidentās āofficialā conduct no matter how extreme was immune from criminal prosecution.
Three of the Justices were Trumpās nominees.
--by Ralph Nader; November 8, 2024
oodles more of the travesty
aka āCitizens Fucking Unitedā:
https://mailchi.mp/nader/electing-an-american-fuhrer-as-wall-street-cheers-and-soars
wormmy -- I know how much
you Adore Ralph, so here's
One pro fucking Bono.
your Welcome.
@Garb: The moderators of this very blog have already decided that when you leave it, that will be for the best. You have loudly rejected their judgement. Why, then, should you expect anyone here to care about your judgement? True, it's not a symmetrical comparison; the moderators here can enforce their judgement upon you, yet again, any time they like, whereas you can do nothing of any kind whatsoever to enforce yours. (Also, that kristo' alone agrees with your judgement should function as a shriekingly undeniable indicator of the real value of said judgement. Yet, you continue here asserting the value of your opinion, in the very place you have been told your opinion is not valued.)
@69: Yet again, you assert your own words support you, and yet again, you cannot find any evidence for your assertion. No one of sound mind will risk contact with your ever-spewing volcano of gonorrhoeal logorrhea, especially with the foreknowledge it absolutely lacks the value you falsely ascribe to it.
Speaking of 'checking up on math,' you managed to miss almost half of my comments (https://www.thestranger.com/users/2402388/tensor). So good to see you are, in fact, capable of actually reaching all the way around to doing a (literally) half-assed job once in a while. Must be a nice break from your constant failathon concerning your own worthless words.
small Wonder
Wormtongue seeks
to have CDizzle excom-
municated when the Latter
amongst the oodles of others
can See thru his obfuscations and
rationalizations and call him out for
the insidious, hateful
Distractions he so
often brings to
these pages
You GO,
CDizzle, Garbby
"averagebob," barth
COMTE auntie Gee and
Hosts of others unwilling
to allow Wormtongue free
reign for his oftimes Monstrous
pov. the World'll be a
Better Place with
wormmy some-
where's Else.
@72: āā¦to have CDizzle excom-
municatedā¦ā
Thatās actually what youāre doing: egging on behavior very similar to what got him banned the last time he did it. Iām merely noting it might get him banned again. Do with that what you will, but donāt blame me if his very similar behavior results in exactly the same consequence.
Thank the benevolent powers that be that Washington State mercifully remains blue and the Sane Washington.
I have no desire to venture much of anywhere east of the Cascades.
Go, SuperBob, GO--kick ass, take names, and congratulations on the checkmate on the "I Caught the Green River Killer!" Clown Car Captain Dave Third Reichert.
And YAY to Marie Gluesenkamp Perez for handily beating devoted Trump sock puppet Joe Kent in the 3rd District for the second time. One would think RepubliKKKans would realize that fascism, misogyny, and systematic racism aren't the way to effectively govern.
With the exception of MAGA red "Drill baby, drill" Alaska, I wonder if the West Coast (Washington, Oregon, California, and Hawaii specifically) will secede from the looming Trump fascist union. Alaska is so close to Russia, and used to be a Russian Territory.
The Orange Turd is so mentally deranged what would stop it from sending the 49th State gift wrapped "With Love" to Vladimir Putin?
Happy Veterans Day and Happy 62nd Birthday, Demi Moore!
@16 boatgeek and @18 thirteen12 et al: I believe a big reason why we're stuck with a twice impeached, convicted felon and neofascist Putin butt kisser for a second term is because too many idiots in this country are too chickenshit to ever elect a qualified woman President of these Divided States of MAGA Confusion.
@38, I'm retired and some times I have nothing better to do than watch TV & YouTube. To the best of my knowledge I've seen every second of every video taken of the police's interactions with Floyd & most of his trial.
I think George Floyd was a junkie counterfeiter who died from a combination of exhausting himself, due to his dilapidated physical condition caused by years of drug use, & the drugs in his system at that time. The police most certainly had the right to arrest him based on his participation in an organized criminal attempt to pass counterfeit money to be used to finance drug purchases. (Organized crime doesn't always look like Don Corleone & the Five Families siting around an oak table in a mansion.)
Floyd was a fraud because the claustrophobia manure was evident: He was sitting in a slightly smaller vehicle with 2 or 3 other people doing just fine. But then started screaming "claustrophobia," & "I can't breathe," when the police tried to put him in a slightly larger vehicle......by himself. Crap.
If he couldn't breathe when they had him on the ground, that's just too damn bad. Watch the tapes: Every time the police tried to loosen their grip & cut him some slack, he fought even harder. And Floyd wasn't just trying to avoid arrest or restraint. Among other episodes, there's a place in the videos, when they had him almost horizontal in the back of the police car where he clearly tried to kick one of the officers in the face. And I mean kick, not bump. Floyd looked straight at the officer and kicked (as hard as he could it looked to me).
THERE WAS NOTHING THE POLICE DID TO GEORGE FLOYD THAT THEY WOULDN'T ROUTINELY DO TO ANY WHITE MAN FOR THE SAME CRIMES. I can say that with good authority as I was a pretty large pain in the ass when I was younger and I had plenty of interactions with the Chicago police. On a number of occasions I only avoided the exact same treatment Floyd got because as soon as I realized the plainclothes men were police, I played dead & didn't resist even one iota. That includes having police point their service weapons at me (real guns, not tasers. This was all before stun guns were invented.) And all my offenses were only in the disturbing the peace class. I was never into any serious crime......and make no mistake, counterfeiting is the big time, even if only for $20. Rent the movie The Art Of Counterfeiting. It's about a real guy named Art. He passed millions, $100 at a time. I'm sure this wasn't Floyd's first rodeo. And as they say, If you can't do the time, don't do the crime. I went to court. I paid the lawyers. I paid my fines. And I just generally never made any trouble that I couldn't buy my way out of. Floyd just didn't want to pay the bill.
And I don't want to hear any of that crap that Floyd didn't deserve to die over a $20 crime. Floyd died because he was a junkie who tried to kick police officers in the face. Anyone who can't understand that attacking police officers will get you killed needs their head examined. And there's a warm spot in hell for all the YouTubers who are giving permission to all the dummies out there who want to argue with the police. I'm not talking about the real lawyers who have YouTube channels giving first & fourth amendment advice. I'm talking about the ones who encourage dummies to argue with police over every word.
Derek Chauvin got thrown under the bus. If you watched his trial, he had a meek lawyer, a jury that's never been out on the street or a victim of a crime, and the prosecution called in all Chauvin's bosses to dump on him. All these bosses were responsible for putting Chauvin in his job as a training officer. All these bosses have approved for years of the job Chauvin was doing. All these bosses sang the mantra of how law enforcement is systemically racist while they pull the levers of that very same system. THE ATTNY GENERAL OF MN IS KEITH ELLISON, A BLACK MAN. There are black police chiefs all over the USA. Black men & women. There are black mayors all over the USA. Black men & women. How can anyone say that a system is racist when it is run, in large part by black men & women? (The answer is easy: There's money, jobs, political power, & jury awards that are easier to get by crying racism than by working for a living. And I'm not saying there's no such thing as racism. But the mantra that the entire US judicial system is racist is a scam.)
The reason IMHO all these law enforcement officials threw Chauvin under the bus is because Sharpton & Crump Inc told them that they could either pay Floyd's family (After Sharpton & Crump took their cut) $29Mil, or they could unleash $100Mil of damage & destruction on the city of Minneapolis. All Chauvin's bosses & superiors saw their jobs gone next election if they let the city burn, so they paid the extortion.........with OTHER PEOPLE'S (taxpayer) MONEY. (It was reported that the lawyers for the Floyd family, including Ben Crump and Antonio Romanucci, would receive around $8.5 million to $10 million from the $20 million allocated to the Floyd family, with some reports suggesting that the amount could be as high as $12 million to $15 million for the lawyers, but the exact amount is not certain.......per Llama 3.1 70B, my local neighborhood AI. That means Sharpton, Crump, & Romanucci took MORE money for themselves than the $7Mil that was allocated for the entire community it was donated to. And people think Trump knows how to scam a charity!) Civil rights settlements that involve community riots are nothing but extortion.
You should have heard all Chauvin's bosses squeal in delight when they threw him under the bus from the witness stand in court. They never heard of Chauvin. Chauvin was a rogue cop. They had no idea of how Chauvin got his job. They had nothing to do with Chauvin. St Peter couldn't have done it better when he denied knowing Christ. Pilate couldn't have done it better when he washed his hands of Christ. And I don't have all that much sympathy for Chauvin. But don't EVEN try to tell me that George Floyd was a poor unfortunate or that Derek Chauvin was an out of control, racist cop.
Watch the tapes. ALL OF THEM. I dare you.