It’ll be interesting to read the International Criminal Court’s “secret” warrants, when and if they are ever released…or leaked.

Almost all of the charged crimes against the two Israelis relate to the slow delivery of foreign aid, which the ICC believed resulted in Palestinian deaths. The ICC claimed the prosecutor has identified “reasonable grounds to believe” these deaths due to insufficient aid constitute murder, persecution, starvation as a weapon of war, and “other inhumane acts,” but not extermination. The ICC saw reasonable grounds to believe the deaths from insufficient aid were intentional, not merely incidental or negligent.

The ICC claimed not to see reasonable grounds to believe the slow delivery of aid was justified by military necessarily, which I see as the crux of the case. Here at the warrant stage, the Court’s determination was, of course, made without the benefit of any explanation by Israel as to what the military necessity was for the slowdown in aid.

If the case goes to trial, I would expect the Israelis to argue, among other things, that the aid trucks needed to be searched for weapons and their drivers screened for Hamas affiliation. Indeed, the Israelis just found small-arms ammunition aboard one of the aid trucks in Gaza earlier this month, so the security risks are not imaginary. The Israelis will also likely highlight the need to prevent Hamas from appropriating foreign aid once it enters Gaza, which would also seem to justify the drip-feed approach. They may also argue that the quantity of aid was adequate but that Palestine just sucks at distributing it fairly among its people or that the fighting prevented any possibility of fair distribution. All of that, however, is argument for the future.

The most interesting part of the press release related to directing attacks against the civilian population. The ICC claimed to identify reasonable grounds to believe only two instances of this crime occurred between October 2023 when the war started and May 2024 when the warrants were sought. During that period, Israel has fired hundreds of thousands of artillery and mortar rounds and air-launched munitions, to say nothing of small-arms fire and vehicle-mounted guns. Did the Court believe that all but two of these munitions were directed at military targets? Or did the prosecutor simply cherry-pick two weapons launches and ignore the rest? (And wouldn’t that be an Interesting tactical decision if that’s what he did?) The press release is very cagey on this point.

It is still possible the Court find the case is inadmissible pursuant to Article 17 of the Rome Statute. If the Israelis launch a credible investigation of their own, they could move to dismiss for lack of admissibility under Article 19(2). The Court has already kind of hinted some action of this nature may be in the works, when it denied Israel’s pre-warrant Article 19(2) motion as premature, WITHOUT prejudice to future such motions post-warrant, hint hint. 😃

An Israeli investigation would be a convenient way for Israel to fob the Court off for a while, potentially a long while, potentially even permanently. A publicly announced Israeli investigation would embarrass the two ministers of course, but probably not as much as these arrest warrants do, so domestic investigation may yet be the route Israel decides to go. Certainly if I were an Israeli minister, I would rather be investigated by the Israeli police than by a Pakistani-British international who has himself been accused of sexual abuse and witness tampering! 😂

I hope the ICC will release both the secret applications for warrants and the secret warrants themselves so the public, especially your own Professor Thumpus, can evaluate the Court’s work in the clear light of day. No doubt the enemies of a Jewish Israel will be dancing in the streets over the news of these warrants, but such celebrations are premature.

No, Cantwell and Murray did not vote for "genocide". Saying so is intellectual dishonesty.

but
HOW
can it be
"genocide!"
when 100% of
ALL Grammar Nazis
can't even Agree on it?

nah.
let bibi
Continue
his lil' Massacre
till the Very Last Hamas.

only
Then
will we
Know -- for Sure.

in the Meantime:
keep making and
sending bibi more
BOMBS! just in case
it Ain't Really Genocide

yet.

2, Have you tried crying harder? I hear it helps.

@1. This is what cognitive dissonance looks like.

It's at least nice election season is over, even if our preferred candidates didn't win in some cases. Can we now admit the people who wailed about the End of Democracy were in the grip of election year hysteria?

Yes just like in 2020 when we were told we were being hysterical for thinking he wouldn’t accept the results of the election, why don’t we all roll over now before he even takes office and assume the guy who is nominating unqualified sex offenders, conspiracy theorists, and talk show hosts for the most powerful positions in the land is actually not an anti-democratic authoritarian.

I too have suffered severe head trauma and it’s a miracle I can even type this. Does anyone else smell burnt toast?

@6: how about we get back to you in 2028.

Gaetz gone. Giggity!

@3: How is an embargo on a nation surrounded by enemies who want it destroyed helpful to the peace process?

nekrasova @6, congratulations on your guy Trump winning the election. Considering that your every post is something along the lines of "I'm not actually a Donald Trump supporter, but it wouldn't be so bad if the rest of you were"--now that the election is long over, what's the point of the continued pro-Trump concern trolling?

barth @7, question for you. Why are you dignifying obvious disinformation by taking it at face value?

Disclaimer. If I'm trying to make the point that disinformation and trolling and other communications of disingenuous motivation have no place in a Slog comment thread, I might as well be making the case that mosquitoes have no place in a swamp. If anything, it's the commenters like me who have no place here.

@9: There's already a prediction that DeSantis will fill the Senate seat vacated by Rubio with Gaetz.

With all the ink that has been spilled on 2024 Election disaster, finally here is a fresh, insightful, and human take on why Progressives aren't connecting with their former reliable Hispanic, Native American, working class, and poor constituencies.

International wire service Thomson Reuters wrote a feature length article, using this reliably blue, heavily Hispanic and Native American college town that flipped, for insights into the national election. The story is being picked up by news outlets around the world.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/new-mexico-democratic-stronghold-battling-poverty-fentanyl-backs-trump-2024-11-21/

Progressives take note.

.

@13. Take note of deez nutz, shitbag.

@10. Good question, let's ask Palestine.

So you’re telling me when you lie to voters who are struggling some of them will actually believe you, maybe even enough to win an election. Fascinating.

@13 It takes special ignorance to behave as if progressives didn't repeatedly tell DNC Democrats they were being outflanked on their left by Trump's pro-worker demagoguery.

@3 Thank you Kristo for a very fine resume of pro-genocide arguments

@12- there’s just no silver lining to any of this, is there?

Justice demands retribution!

"ICC says it has 'reasonable grounds' ..."

Outside of the U.K., that wouldn't be good enough to issue an arrest warrant in the just about every democratic country with liberty and rule of law, let alone the U.S.

It's weak legal tea.

It draws into question justice in the name International Court of Justice.

https://youtu.be/2WUEIR85Bkk?feature=shared

@20: Wrong court, lol. This is the International Criminal Court, not the International Court of Justice. Man, you and AverageBob with the international law...🤣🤣🤣

"it is abundantly clear that Murray and Cantwell represent AIPAC, not the people of Washington. "

Out of Patty Murray's $20.1 million raised last cycle, AIPAC contributed $123,000. Out of Maria Cantwell's $12.6 million raised last cycle, AIPAC contributed $197,000.

AIPAC represents 0.6 percent of Murray's fundraising, and 1.5 percent of Cantwell's fundraising. This is enough money for Hannah Krieg to conclude that Murray and Cantrell "represent AIPAC, not the people of Washington?"

lol, this is just Jews-control-the-world conspiracy theorizing. It's the Protocols of Zion, updated for 21st-century lefties! 🤣😂🤣😂

@15: Palestine isn't a nation, nor are they surrounded by enemies. In fact, in 2005 Israel made a unilateral decision to withdraw from the Gaza Strip and hand over control to the Palestinian Authority. Surrounding Arab nations hardly help the Palestinians and probably consider them an annoyance or a bargaining chip, but they're not enemies of the Palestinians.

@24 "As of June 2024, the State of Palestine is recognized as a sovereign state by 146 of the 193 member states of the United Nations, or just over 75% of all UN members."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_recognition_of_the_State_of_Palestine

Just like thumpus the goon, you are wrong almost all the time.

@25: We can quibble about that, but then how is surrounded by enemies?

@25: Palestine is a state, but is it an ETHNO-state? 😉 It's very important to know whether it's a regular state or an ethno-state! 😉

From the Basic Law of Palestine, the constitutional framework for the state of Palestine, Part I, Article 1: "Palestine is part of the larger Arab world, and the Palestinian people are part of the Arab nation. Arab unity shall be an objective that the Palestinian people shall work to achieve."

Oh shit, it's an ethno-state! Boycott! Divest! Sanction! Apartheid! Colonialism! 🤣😂🤣😂

I’m just waiting for the Genocide Joe folks to lose their shit when the Orange One supports Bibi’s annexation of the West Bank (which logically follows the move of the capital from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem). Trump is going to be so bad for Palestinians (it’s like folks collectively forgot what happened in his first term).

And aside, just like Putin and Xi care fuck all about the ICC, another POS like Bibi won’t care either (and to believe a signatory will arrest a sitting PM is laughable naive).

It’s gonna be a really shitty 4 years (let’s just hope the collective left can get it together before JD runs).

@22, I stand corrected about the court. Thanks.

The point still remains.

@23, Yes Hannah and The Stranger is repackaging the old conspiracy theories and bigotry. Irony.

AIPAC isn't real, folks. The millions they spent in elections are a total fabrication to scapegoat Jews. Money from AIPAC doesn't count because if you mention the hard money they paid for attack ads, that makes you an antisemitic George Soros supporter!

@28: That last sentence is stunning and so true.

@30: Found the Jewish-money conspiracy theorist, lol!

@30: In other words what?

@33. It's hard to see with your head so far up your tookus, huh.

Aside, sad to see Hannah revert to zombie Twitter in less than a week (guess it’s hard to give up the racist Musk kickbacks).

@34: A predicable tawdry retort. Obviously, you aren't enthused about clarifying your nearly antisemitic comment.

@36. You're an idiot.

@37: Perhaps so, but you're definitely triggered. Peace.

@36, This is the most raindrop comment that’s ever raindropped.

Realpolitik says no country will touch Netanyahu, as they would face catastrophic consequences from Trump or, if in airstrike range, Israel. This is toothless.

I wonder how the Israel apologists here will respond when Trump lets Netanyahu clear Gaza in return for some prime real estate? Will they recognize that as genocide?

manifest destiny
sucks for
you

but it
Works
for me!

see
your
Broker.

@41: As long as working in hotels, restaurants, resorts, casinos, and other investments isn't considered genocidal.

you don't gotta have a Guilty Consience
hell pheobe you can Dance
on their Graves.

@40 All 124 countries who signed on to the ICC are obligated to fulfill the arrest warrants

A couple dozen, including all of Europe already said they would arrest the perps, and many non-aligned countries would likely be more than happy to show that international justice applies to everyone, not just to brown people and Putin

Arrested or not this will have enormous consequences for Netanyahu. Now hopefully they'll also suspend Israel from the UN until it follows international law and stops attacking UN facilities and personnel.

@26 encircled? do you understand what occupation means?

@33 in other words? the Israeli lobby spend huge money to influence US elections

AIPAC uncorks $100 million war chest to sink progressive candidates
https://www.politico.com/news/2024/03/03/aipac-israel-spending-democratic-primaries-00144552

@46b

crafty they are
they spent it on
Primaries where one's
genocidal dollar* just goes Farther

*OUR tax dollars
Always Hard
at work!

43, That’s the spirit! It’s not genocide, it’s “economic opportunity.” They don’t want to wipe Palestine off the map, they want to give them jobs cleaning toilets for tourists.

@45: “stops attacking UN facilities and personnel.”

Well, UNRWA would have to kick Hamas out of its facilities, which, you know, fat chance, lol! 😄

@46: Found the other Jewish-money conspiracy theorist! No surprise who it was, ha ha ha!

@47: AIPAC doesn’t spend US tax dollars, lol! It really is Protocols of Zion with you people, ha ha ha!

@45. Matters not a bit what EU countries say they would do. Honeybadger Trump would slap 500% tariffs on the arresting country and abandon them to Russia’s tender mercies. Bibi is quite safe from any arrest outside Israel.

@52

"Bibi
is quite safe
from any arrest outside Israel."

hoo-rah!
maybe bibi
and his Defense
Minister (where was
He when Hamas broke
thru that fence?) might go
on a World Tour with the Cheney
bush in an open convertible starting

in the Middle East. the donold
could ride Shotgun in the
Presidential chopper

with an Army a Navy
an Air Force and a
few Marines for
backup they'd
surely Bring
out them
Crowds.

Countries that don't have such a strong Israeli lobby (sorry, a strong relationship, don't want to trigger Trumpus) will have to think twice about delivering weapons to a country accused of war crimes. Borell and the EU made it clear that they have to respect the court's warrant. Rule of law and all.
But Bibi can how have his day in court and prove his innocence.
The hotel dry cleaners of the world would like to thank the ICC for their actions.

Israel is a nuclear-armed power, backed up by the world’s most powerful nation with a crazy incoming president. No country will risk the consequences of “arresting” him. If he is to receive any trial it will be in Israel by his own government.

The ICC is toothless and impotent.

Amusing, isn’t it, when paid writers claim they can’t understand what the words mean:

“...demands an immediate, unconditional and permanent cease-fire to be respected by all parties, and further reiterates its demand for the immediate and unconditional release of all hostages.”

If the cease-fire is “unconditional,” then, by definition, it cannot be linked to anything at all, release of hostages included. The release of hostages is therefore correctly phrased as a separate demand. This perfectly fits with Hamas’ position, which is for a cease-fire while Hamas keeps all of the hostages. Unsurprisingly, the United States vetoed this resolution.

If the UN had wanted to tie the cease-fire to hostage release, it would have done so. It refused, and the U.S. properly vetoed the result.

@49 so your claim is that 70% of UN Gaza facilities, bombed by Israel, were taken over by Hamas. Good luck having international courts see that argument as anything other than a ready made excuse to preempt being held accountable

@50 clown thumpus has no argument but slander in its 24/7 attempts to run interference for Israel.

Once, you morons, are done debasing the meaning of what is antisemitism in order to justify the unjustifiable, we the anti-racists will be left picking up the pieces.

@55 We get it: you believe that might is right, and there is no use for international law. Unfortunately we don't need to wait for a further break down of the international order to know where we are going since we have been there before.

@56 only a twisted soul could claim that is not consistent to call at once for both unconditional ceasefire and unconditional release of all hostages but we understand your desperate need to continuously redefine the English language.

@57, You haven't read the ICC warrant have you? None of the charges against Netanyahu, et. al. are related to bombing. They are all related to the failure of Israel to allow enough food into Gaza..

@58, The resolution did not condition the ceasefire on exchange of hostages. It is worded to call for the ceasefire, without requiring the exchange of hostages in return. I.e. Hamas can get what they want, without being required to offer hostages in return. Hamas gets what they want, without being forced to offer anything in return to get it. It is worded such that the U.N. is making a list of demands, and if it gets one out of two, they can call it a win, and the hostages, and Israeli security are expendable.

@58: As I made no claim as to any consistency (or lack thereof) between the two unconditional demands in the UN resolution, your criticism is misplaced (to put it mildly). As you have now asked, it is entirely consistent to put two unrelated, unconditional demands in the same UN resolution.

I was responding to the Stranger’s claim these two unconditional demands were actually linked, which they cannot be, per the plain meaning of the word, “unconditional.”

Therefore, my points @56 all stand.

@57. Merely pointing out the very large potential downside to any action against Netanyahu while he is Prime Minister of Israel. Putin has an arrest warrant that was ignored by South Africa because they understood the consequences. You do not.

bibi's on a knife-edge
precipice with his little
genocide on one side
the wrath of the Planet
on one side and Israeli
Justice on the third. his
only parachute a pardon

take it bibi
get the Fuckoutta
Dodge & Never look
nor Come back. danke

@62

bibi's only parachute
a pardon or Arm-
ageddon.

‘When a majority of Democratic voters support a ceasefire—and have for many months—and Washington State saw a sizable turnout for “uncommitted” in the primary in protest of the Biden administration's response to the war, it is abundantly clear that Murray and Cantwell represent AIPAC, not the people of Washington.’

In August, the Stranger surveyed the results of Democratic Congressional Primary Elections in the State of Washington. The Stranger concluded, “Gaza Isn’t Driving Votes.”

Believe it or not, persons who’ve served a combined total of more than fifty (!) years as U.S. Senators from the state of Washington can read such results all by themselves, and come to the exact same conclusion. No AIPAC money required.

@57: “clown thumpus has no argument but slander in its 24/7 attempts to run interference for Israel.”

Lol, it’s not slander to call you an anti-semitic conspiracy theorist! 😁 AIPAC’s $100 million is something like one-half of one percent of spending on US elections. Yet even though AIPAC spends 0.5% of the money, you’re on here like, “THESE PEOPLE OWN AMERICA!” 😂🤣😂🤣 Never mind the other 99.5% of the money! 😂 If it was any other group than Jews, we wouldn’t hear a peep out of you, but because it’s Jews you think they control the world! 😉

@65 you are really pathetic. Of course AIPAC didn't spread $100 million over all races. They focused on races to defeat critics of Israel like Bowman , Bush and several other progressives where AIPAC spent sometimes over half the outside money in the race. For example against Bowman AIPAC spent $14 million out of the $23 million spent on a race where AIPAC wasn't the only pro-Israel group spending money attacking Bowman.

I say "AIPAC infuences election" and you claim I said “THESE PEOPLE OWN AMERICA!” This resumes pretty well what an unethical serial slanderer you are, and we know that it is because you have NO valid arguments.

"In total, outside groups spent $23 million on the race to unseat Bowman. More than 60 percent of that money came from one group, the American Israel Public Affairs Committee, which poured more than $14 million into the race over the course of five weeks. In total, progressive groups backing Bowman spent $1.75 million on the race.[..]Other groups in AIPAC’s orbit have joined its electoral push. Democratic Majority for Israel, a group that shares donors and other ties with AIPAC, has spent just over $1 million on the race against Bowman.

The influx of AIPAC election spending has shifted the electoral calculus of the Democratic Party. Historically, Democrats took drastic measures to protect incumbents from primary challenges, but party leaders have done little to support progressive incumbents facing an onslaught of attacks from AIPAC and its allies. "
https://theintercept.com/2024/06/25/jamaal-bowman-george-latimer-election-results-aipac/

"Arms embargo when? Well, it could be now, but the United States Senate voted overwhelmingly yesterday to reject three resolutions sponsored by Sen. Bernie Sanders that would block the sale of the deadliest offensive weapons to Israel, a move which would disempower Israel's ongoing genocide in Gaza. Only 18 senators voted to put any guardrails on Israel after 13 months of killing civilians with our tax dollars."

This may well be the closest the Stranger has ever gotten to admitting the President cannot simply slap an arms embargo on Israel -- you know, the election-season demand from Arab-Americans to VP Harris, which the Stranger repeated as a serious demand, each and every time it was made. Such an embargo would require a change in our laws, because federal law obligates the US to maintain Israel's qualitative military edge in the region. Although this wasn't that change, or even a try at it, it was congressional action, no matter how ludicrously weak.

(Speaking of weak sauce, Bernie got a whopping 18 votes for his pet resolution. Ouch. Perhaps next election, the Vermont Democrats might re-think their policy of allowing him to run without a Democratic opponent.)

see: the Stranger's puppet
Master and his 'Charley
McCarthy'* in Fine
Form right Here
at tS, /\bove.

*likley
Senator
MkKarthy,
rejuvenillated.

see: the Stranger's puppet
Master and his 'Charley
McCarthy'* in Fine
Form right Here
at tS, /\bove.

*likley
Senator
MkKarthy,
rejuvenillated.

The world has gotten so batshit crazy my beloved and I might not make it very far into 2025. :(

@66: lol, I see, so election money only works when it’s AIPAC spending it, ha ha ha! The other 99.5% of the money just vanishes uselessly, but when it’s that 05.% AIPAC money it magically controls everything! 😂😂😂 Bob, this is brilliant, you should write an exposé about the Protocols these AIPAC wizards have invented! 🤣🤣🤣

@66: While it's fun to watch you labor diligently at building AIPAC's mystique for them, no matter how hard you pound that sand, reality will eventually arrive and destroy your fairy tales. Feast upon The Nation's devastating takedown of Bowman's protracted political suicide, with AIPAC's colossal expenditure merely handing Bowman some slightly stronger arsenic:

"Way back in January, well before AIPAC even spent a dime, the Latimer campaign had internal polls showing him up 10 points over the incumbent: That’s a massive lead for a non-incumbent, which testifies to Bowman’s weaknesses. Latimer later won by 17 points. What really made the difference in the race were Jewish voters themselves: people who live in the district, some of whom voted for Bowman previously, some of whom did not—the majority of whom could not stomach his rhetoric around the war in Gaza, exacerbated by an indifference bordering on hostility to their fears and feedback. It’s easy to blame Bowman’s loss primarily on AIPAC, but that would be as misleading as it is for them to claim credit. The real story here is much more straightforward—and sad."

So, in NY-16 (unlike in Western Washington's Congressional districts), Gaza WAS driving votes. Just not in the direction you and the Stranger had wanted.

'A non-exhaustive list: describing the war in Gaza as a “genocide,” a term that Bernie Sanders has explicitly resisted; disputing that the attack was unprovoked; using the settler colonialism framework that posits Jews as non-Indigenous interlopers in a land they have no claim to... generally promoting or aligning with groups and people who celebrated October 7 as “resistance”... using “Zionist” as a pejorative.

There's no amount of money AIPAC could possibly have spent which would have damaged Bowman's re-election campaign as much as he did.

'These are not people AIPAC “controls,” as Bowman described the group’s grip on Congress, although voters most certainly saw their Web ads, which featured truly ugly footage of Bowman denying that Hamas raped Israeli women on October 7 (he eventually apologized, sort of). Presumably, these voters were scared and offended by what they heard from Bowman, and voted accordingly.'

(https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/bowman-aipac-antisemitism-westchester/)

Obviously, there's nothing anywhere in Bowman's extensive litany of self-inflicted political failure which you, the Stranger, or other supportive commenters should heed. Carry on!

@71: Yeah, “Death to the Jews” probably doesn’t message well in a Jewish district, though AverageBob will struggle to understand why not! 😄

@66: As you copied the Intercept’s bitter whining about the Democratic Party’s failure to squander campaign funds in a futile attempt to save Bowman from himself, here’s another thought from the Nation:

‘This is where the institutional left needs to do some serious self-criticism. The explicitly anti-Zionist Jewish Voices for Peace and the Jewish Vote—the 501(c)(4) arm of Jews for Racial and Economic Justice, which counts 500 members in NY16—are simply not representative of the majority of Jewish voters. And it’s not because that majority are “AIPAC voters” or “pro-genocide” as Representative Ilhan Omar slandered Jewish students at Columbia who were not part of the encampments. Polling repeatedly shows that most Jews in America support a two-state solution, an end to the war, the hostages returned home, and Netanyahu out of power—positions well-represented by the liberal Zionist organization J-Street.

‘Bowman lost J-Street’s endorsement and Jewish voters who’d previously supported him not only because he moved away from this position but also because he flirted with and then fully ingratiated himself to a section of the left that does not believe in Israel’s right to exist at all…’

[…]

‘By framing the race as a proxy battle with the “Zionist regime we call AIPAC,” Bowman ended up treating Jewish voters in the district as if they themselves were foreign to it, as opposed to people with legitimate concerns... Things veered into hypocrisy when Bowman rallied outside of the district with Bernie Sanders and Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez—arguing that right-wing billionaires were trying to buy the district, when only 10 percent of his own contributions came from within.’

Again, nothing to see here, carry on…

nothing to
see or hear here
Wormtongue* just wiped
out $100M worth of Citizens
United fools parting with their Oodles

give us Ranked Choice Voting

End Citizens United

& let the People
Decide.

*not forgetting
you, too!
🛴

"['Democratic'] . . . party leaders
have done little to support progressive
incumbents facing an onslaught of attacks
from AIPAC and its allies." --@averagebob

the 'd'nc &
Wormtongue*
HATE Progressives

cuz the Status
Quo WORKS

for Them.

*🛴 too!

TEN Million
Dems stayed Home
this time. and voted for
the Fucking Fraudster. bibi's
& the Wormtongue's side is Winning.

they gave
Us eltrumpfster
& they'll keep Giving
us Nazis, long and hard.

@75, @76: Thanks for validating my predictions @71 and @73. Why spend the large amount of time it would take to examine all of the foolish and unnecessary choices Rep. Bowman made to scuttle his own re-election, when you can simply quote from the Protocols of the Elders of AIPAC?

Of Bowman's many foolish choices, check out the specific one which made it to the very top of The Nation's list:
'...describing the war in Gaza as a “genocide,” a term that Bernie Sanders has explicitly resisted...'

Wow! I hadn't known that I shared agreement upon use of language with such a famously well-spoken senator! Henceforth, in recognition of this linguistic comportment between the senator and myself, please refer to me as "Berntongue," or just "Berny," for short. Thanks!

And after you change your linguistic behavior to agree with the senator's, you can be "Berntongue," too! (Or rather, "Berntongue II," as I was in agreement with him first.) Nothing like having a lofty goal to aim for, eh?

tl;dr
pass
wormmy

@78: Proud to agree with Senator Sanders’ usage guidance for the word, “genocide.”

Looking forward to your recognition of Bernie’s accurate guidance on “genocide,” too.

Love,

Berntongue

ok
babs