Good luck to SPS finding a competent Supt under this board leadership. Bro got sent for a ride being told to cut 20 schools and then not cut them once the half baked plan hit the public. The timing couldn’t be more terrible though with a looming strike in Sept and Board elections in Nov. —-Peace out, Dr Jones!

Congrats to The Stranger on the true marker of its print revival, goin' monthly!

I saw this in the headline, "and Lucy Daucus and Julien Baker Break Hearts", and my first thought was, "What, boygenius are breaking up? No!" And then I read the item and, oh, false alarm. Acknowledged that boygenius is a side project anyway for these three talented ladies.

Regarding the Israelis brazenly breaking the ceasefire with Hamas, I'm looking forward to the sincere and organic outcry which will be casting the blame at Joe Biden and Kamala Harris.

@2 As if Biden's legacy in Gaza was over because he hasn't been pres for 2 months

Of all the things to be infuriated about Trump, him not reading 80,000 pages of the JFK files is not one of them.

@4 I didn't read your comment but I think it's very stupid.

averagebob @3, you do not disappoint. And here I was thinking you would be pushing back on the boygenius part of my comment.

“Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu ordered the attacks after Hamas failed to release the hostages or accept U.S. proposals for extending a fragile cease-fire that had held for two months, his office said.”

“Trump has pressed for the release of all remaining hostages and has repeatedly said Hamas would face a return to war if it doesn’t comply. The hostages include one remaining living U.S. citizen, dual national Edan Alexander, who was serving in the Israeli military when he was kidnapped by Hamas. Of the 59 hostages who remain in Gaza, Israel believes as many as 24 are still alive.”

(https://www.wsj.com/world/middle-east/israel-launches-renewed-attacks-on-hamas-in-gaza-74776630?mod=mhp)

@4 I did read your comment
but I think it's very stupid
and now I'm stupider.

my Bad!

@5,@8: Thanks for the heads up, I'll skip those comments.

Taco truck are great, but so is the Health Department doing their job!

"Israel’s systemic attacks on women’s healthcare in Gaza amount to “genocidal acts”, and Israeli security forces have used sexual violence as a weapon of war to “dominate and destroy the Palestinian people”, a UN report states.

The 49-page report on sexual and gender-based violence was drawn up by the UN’s Independent International Commission of Inquiry on the Occupied Palestinian Territory, Including East Jerusalem, and presented to the UN human rights council. [...]

Israel’s actions amounted to “two categories of genocidal acts in the Rome statute and the genocide convention, including deliberately inflicting conditions of life calculated to bring about the physical destruction of Palestinians and imposing measures intended to prevent births”, the human rights council said in a press release about the report.

The report found that Israel’s security forces had made certain forms of sexual and gender-based violence part of “standard operating procedures”, including forced public stripping and nudity, sexual harassment including threats of rape, and sexual assault.

The “pattern of sexual violence” that Israeli forces used, including cases of rape and sexualised torture, constituted war crimes and crimes against humanity, the commission found. [..]

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/mar/13/israeli-attacks-on-womens-healthcare-in-gaza-amount-to-genocidal-acts-un-says

@9 wait, so you don't value the opinion of someone who didn't read something and still comments on it? Strange!

“Israel Breaks Ceasefire”

No, the ceasefire expired March 1, and the parties did not agree on the terms for an extension. Since March 1, it’s been a matter of each party’s discretion whether to resume fighting. If Hamas wants a new ceasefire, they can strike a new deal. The current offer on the table is: “release all the hostages or we’ll kill you.” 🤣

Thanks for mentioning Ballet, although its gone, its not forgotten.

@11, How effective have those U.N. reports been in getting Gazans out of the crossfire? How many lives have those pages saved? Maybe if they find them together and wear them to slow the shrapnel?

You have yet to call for force in favor of one-side, the other-side, or against both sides to end the conflict so Gazans will be out of the crossfire when one side, or both loses the capacity or will to fight.

Do you always advocated for such empirically demonstrated worthless solutions, or do you care enough about Gazans to end the conflict the way they empirically and historically end?

@11: So, you’re saying Hamas’ use of hospitals and other health care facilities for women to shield its terrorists had a negative outcome for women’s health? Wow, couldn’t possibly have foreseen that outcome! Thanks!

@15 "do you care enough about Gazans to end the conflict the way they empirically and historically end?"

Yes, that's why we've been asking for an arms embargo. Where have you been?

Oh wow. Dweeeebeee you're an idiot.
Who is next up if John Roberts buys the farm? Is it Thomas? Wow, we are soooooo very fucked when that day happens.

Thank God we get at least another year without a disastrous Universal Health Care scam.

Countries with Universal Healthcare have lower quality care combined with excessive wait times. Patients from Canada, Britain and elsewhere end up travelling to the US for care they could not receive in their home countries. And of course, most foreign health care trusts are already broke.

But I do imagine the State will end up getting their hands on WA Medicaid funding through the eventually closure of Medicaid with the funding being issued to the States as block grants. That is very much on Trump's radar. I thought that would be a good thing for Washington's poor, but if it is funneled into UHC, it will turn out to be a nightmare.

@17, Arms embargos have never ended a conflict. They had one on Israel leading up to 1947. How well did that work out?

What stopped the Balkan conflict? NATO intervention to apply overwhelming force to get the Serbians to give up.

That is what stops wars. One side, or both, suffers enough to lose the capacity or will to keep fighting. When are we going to do that in Gaza so that its people are no longer in the crossfire of combatants?

@17, You can have all the U.N. reports and international court rulings in the world, but unless someone is going to use force to enforce those rulings, they are mere aspirational statements and Gazans keep dying.

@19, None of that is true — wait times vary greatly across countries and by specialty, and in the US our average wait times for basic care exceed other countries by several-fold — but “wait times” are a useless metric when you’re comparing between countries where everyone has access to medical care vs. a country where about 10% of the population have no access at all, essentially a wait time of infinity. We have the lowest life expectancies of the western world yet we outspend other countries by double or more because our system is highly inefficient and incentivizes denial of care over maintenance and prevention. Also our current head of HHS is an attorney who makes his living from class action lawsuits so we're just not set up for success across the board.

@22 - we have the lowest(er) life expectancy due to our horrible diet and lack of exercise. That isn't going to improve no matter our healthcare system design or the amount spent (unless it dictates our diets). Our current HHS secretary is the only person ever appointed that has a shot of improving the status quo.

@23, The problem is the current HHS Secretary throws the baby out with the bathwater. He is right about horrible diets and exercise but totally wrong about tried, true, and effective vaccines like Measles.

@23, The entire western world has horrible diets and don’t exercise enough. The fact remains we pay far more for health care with absolutely nothing to show for it by any metric you can name — even wait times are not any better here.

Having our entire healthcare system under the leadership of an antivax conspiracy crank with no medical training is emblematic of our problems but also stands to make it worse. We’ve now had 2 children die from a highly contagious vaccine-preventable disease and he is advocating for vitamin A supplements instead of a vaccine that all but eradicated it. People are going to continue to die for no reason as long as we allow our institutions to be led by uneducated grifters.

@20 you're saying not having weapons of war doesn't prevent an army from fighting? So if the US stops supplying Ukraine like Trump threatened to that won't make any difference in that conflict right?

@23 oh my god this MAGA bot is actually tensorna cosplaying

@23 You're right. Instead of adults dying from lack of good diet and exercise, children are dying of totally preventable diseases we already have vaccines for. The status quo has definitely been changed.

@26~the
Wormtongue
has Many guises
his 'Concerned Centrist'
being the Least Unpalatable.

@23 stfu about lack of exercise and health, you're not qualified to speak. you already exposed that your advanced fitness regime consists of 100 push ups every other day and walking the dogs. that's absolutely nothing, you aren't shit.

@26 so should Israel just leave the hostages to be tortured and ultimately killed? If Hamas released the hostages tomorrow Israel wouldn’t have any excuse to continue their campaign.

@26, I am saying that there is no such things as "not having weapons of war." The embargo on weapons of war going into Palestine prior to 1947 just made smugglers better off. Israel still got the weapons they wanted and needed, as did the Arabs. You still got the nakba.

There was an arms embargo on Gaza, imposed by Israel in 2007. How many rockets got fired at Israel from Gaza after 10/7? I lost count at 10,000. How many of the attackers from Gaza lacked automatic rifles when they attacked Israel? None. So how well did that arms embargo do in preventing Hamas from successfully attacking Israel? Hamas still continues to fire at the IDF, in the IDF's latest incursion , even after all these months of war and having likely already expended millions of rounds fighting the IDF already.

Prior to the Atomic Bombs and the Russian invasion of Manchuria making an Allied invasion of Japan a moot point, Japan had had its sea lanes cut off for 12 months. They still found plenty of airplanes for Kamikaze attacks and were training the population that didn't have guns to fight with sharpened bamboo spears. If there is a will to fight, the fighting party will find the means to fight, even if it is just launching unarmed human waves to keep coming at those with guns faster than they can reload, shoot, and get ammunition re-supplied to the front lines. The invasion of Japan would have been a 1/2 million man bloodbath for the Allies and likely would have been a 3.5 million person bloodbath for the Japanese. Applying overwhelming lethal force to break the will of the Japanese to continue to fight, via the atomic bombs and the Russian onslaught in Manchuria, as horrible and lethal as that was, probably saved 3.5 million Japanese. As a footnote, all the Purple Heart Medals used by the U.S. Military to this day, were ordered and manufactured in anticipation of the numbers of wounded men that would get the award invading Japan. Even after Vietnam, Korea, two Iraq Wars, Afghanistan, and various other conflicts, we still aren't running out of the Purple Hearts that were stockpiled for the anticipated wounded for the invasion of Japan.

@31 so why are we wasting so much taxpayer money arming Ukraine?

@30 if Israel just gave the Palestinians their land back Hamas would have no excuse to keep or take hostages

@32: There’s never any excuse for taking hostages. Say, how has this latest round of hostage-taking worked out for Gaza? Been pretty smooth sailing for them over there? 😅

@32, Hamas's aim has been and continues to be the removal of all infidels from Palestine and Israel. No two state solution. A one state solution with no Jews. That is an existential threat to Israel and Jews.

Hamas was formed in the wake of the Oslo accords to fight Arabs and Arab states that supported a two-state solution, and then Israel.

With regard to Ukraine, its is possible without U.S. weapons that Ukraine's Army could be made combat ineffective. Then you would have another version of the Soviet Occupation of Afghanistan. How well did that work out for the Soviets? How well did it break the will of the Taliban to fight?

The Europeans may step up and arm Ukriane enough to keep them losing territory until they shorten their lines enough for them to be defensible, It's also possible that European nations could intervene; however, absent that, the Soviets getting bled to death Afghan style, over decades is entirely probable.

@32 so while you level charges that Israel is in the process of cleansing Gaza your actual solution is to cleanse Israel. That’s a fantasy but is probably in line with Hamas demands as well and is why Israel should keep fighting. The alternative is literally suicide.

@32 fwiw Israel did try to do what you say and withdrew from Gaza. The Palestinians promptly elected a terrorist government, destroyed infrastructure to build weapons, squandered foreign aid on additional weapons and ultimately launched an attack against civilians whole committing numerous atrocities.

“What’s the problem!? Let the people eat tacos cooked under a tent on Aurora if they want to!”

You either support the work of the health department or you don’t - exceptions should not be made because places are hoping on social media (it’s takes like this that blur the line between far right “government is the problem” and hipster progressives whining about the mean ol health department cracking down on unlicensed food service).

Not only should these unlicensed places be shutdown but they need to be fined as well (those fines could be applied to lowering costs for all those folks following the rules).

@17: “Yes, that's why we've been asking for an arms embargo.”

“Genocide Joe” limited arms deliveries to Israel. Thanks, in part, to the Abandon Harris movement and Comrade Sawant, we now have a president who has made shipping arms to Israel our top national priority. Great work, guys! Give yourselves praise all around!

@11: Still loving that report. Here’s the methodologies it uses:

Someone died of a gunshot wound in a war zone. We searched diligently for Israeli presence in the area at the time the shot was fired. We didn’t even pretend to care if Hamas was nearby, let alone ask if it had reason to shoot. Therefore atrocity Israel FTW!!

Hamas commanders lived openly in a neighborhood’s houses. Israel attacked the neighborhood. Therefore atrocity Israel FTW!

Israel attacked medical facilities. Because Israel. No need to ask about Hamas, let alone look for them. Therefore atrocity Israel FTW!!

Blather, rinse, repeat…

@37: The Stranger's commitment to lawbreaking will merely look more and more hypocritical, as Trump continues acting upon his sneering disregard for our laws. As you implied, it's yet another manifestation of Horseshoe Theory.

@38: The UN Human Rights Council has a standing agenda item on Israel, the only country in the world singled out for such treatment. As you’ve pointed out, the methodology of the HRC’s appointed “experts” makes the results of their investigations a foregone conclusion. Israel is right not to cooperate with the HRC. Why play a game you can’t win? 😂

@35 "so while you level charges that Israel is in the process of cleansing Gaza your actual solution is to cleanse Israel"

It's not "cleansing" if the people voluntarily depart, only if they are forced out by violence or threat of violence. And what I'm saying is, if someone stole your land at what point would you quit fighting to get it back? Israel created this problem for themselves.

Israelis're
in their Streets
protesting bibi's
ongoing Genocide

how Long till bibi
& thedjt Outlaw*
all Protestings?

*two months, tops
unless they can
do it quicker.

@38 "Hamas commanders lived openly in a neighborhood’s houses. Israel attacked the neighborhood. Therefore atrocity Israel"

What a stupid thing to write. Ya, shame on Hamas leaders for not living alone in tents in the middle of the desert, thereby forcing Israel to blow up whole city blocks in the course of assassinating them. You're deranged.

@43: Actually, international law requires precisely that from Hamas. You cannot fight a war from within your civilian-occupied apartment building, that’s a war crime. If you do it anyway, your enemy can blow the whole thing up. Hilarious that you are just now waking up to this reality! 😂🤣😂🤣

@43, @44: Article 28 of the Fourth Geneva Convention: "The presence of a protected person may not be used to render certain points or areas immune to military operations." (https://ihl-databases.icrc.org/en/ihl-treaties/gciv-1949/article-28) That's the entirety of Article 28.

From this it follows that the combatants must separate themselves from the protected persons, otherwise the protected persons lose their protection. Failure of the combatants (Hamas, in this case) to separate themselves from the civilians in Gaza removes protection from those civilians. (With predictable results.)

@43: As it's obvious the leaders of Hamas are legitimate military targets, then yes, their residing in a tent outside a populated area would have been a better idea. How you can claim to care about civilians and yet deny this goes well beyond my understanding; then again, in this very thread, you justify actual hostage-taking, so we'll temper your claims about civilians to recognize that dismal reality.

@41 Well the only way you are removing them at this point is by force. Just as those in Gaza are not going anywhere willingly those in Israel are not going to voluntarily relocate. It's been almost 100 years since the nation of Israel was created. Those who were relocated during that time are long gone at this point so any animosity over "stolen land" is only based on historical grievances. You don't have to agree with the way Israel was formed but its here now and its not going anywhere so if the solution continues to be for them to voluntarily relocate (or in the case of Hamas to kill all of them) then why should Israel stop fighting? There is no workable peace here. Only an existential question of the right to exist.

@44/45 there's a difference between waging military operations from an area and living somewhere. If the US was at war could the adversary nation validly drop bombs on our generals' homes? At the cost of blowing up a northern Virginia subdivision or DC condo tower? If Hamas blew up a block in Tel Aviv to kill one of Netanyahu's war cabinet would you be making this same argument?

@46 you're not wrong but given all that I side with the people whose land was stolen not the people who stole it. In my opinion if you drive people off their land by force and confine them to walled occupied territories you can't then complain if they or their descendants lash out. Seems pretty clear cut to me but obviously not to everyone.

@48 that's pretty much the history of the entire world. Like I said at this point its not changing so the choice for the Palestinians and those who support them is to learn to accept Israel as a neighbor and focus on building a great life for yourself and your people where you do live rather than invoking blood feuds about things that happened before you were born. As much as that Trump video of Gaza was made fun of the one thing it got right is that it easily has the potential to generate tremendous wealth and opportunity for its inhabitants if they would embrace it. Until then I can't blame Israel for having walls and restrictions because history has shown every time they give Palestinians any amount of trust they betray that trust with murder and terror.

@47: Of course military persons would be targets in wartime. What is so strange about that? Also, what would be strange about active-duty military personnel relocating out of civilian areas to military bases in wartime? Isn’t that usually part of their jobs?

(Furthermore, if Hamas actually took the time and care to target military personnel in Israel, instead of just bombing random bus stops in Tel Aviv or wherever, the Israelis would likely not have a problem with it.)

@50 so you think the Joint Chiefs were living on military bases for the entirety of, say, the war in Afghanistan (20 years)?

@48: The Palestinian Arabs were offered a legal land deal by the UN; they boycotted the negotiations, and rejected the deal with force. When you choose war, you choose to accept the consequences of war.

Fast-forward to 10/7 and through to today, and what do we see? Pro-Palestinian demonstrators celebrating terrorism, demanding war, demanding American Jews renounce Israel. Little to nothing about peaceful solutions. Do what you’ve always done, get what you’ve always gotten…

@49 you only say this because you side with Israel over the Palestinians, otherwise it could apply to any war of aggression. Why don't any occupied people accept their "neighbors" and "focus on building a great life" under whatever restrictive terms the occupiers demand? Why doesn't, say, Ukraine?

@51: I’m saying attacks on military persons in wartime are not war crimes, and if the military persons are residing in civilian areas, then the civilians lose their legal protection from attacks. That’s true anywhere, anytime.

(As for your specific example, if such attacks had ever occurred, my response would have been more along the lines of “Graveyard of Empires,” and “No land war in Asia.”)

@52 "The Palestinian Arabs were offered a legal land deal by the UN"

What authority did the UN have to purport to "offer" the Palestinians a portion of their land? What exactly was "legal" about that?

"When you choose war, you choose to accept the consequences of war."

Right, like when you flood into other people's territory and start a terror campaign against them you choose to accept the consequences. The people whose land you stole by force might not just roll over and take it, even a hundred years on.

@55: Because the British Mandate was expiring. The UN is the closest entity to a world government humans have yet created, so the UN tried to prevent what actually did then happen, which was a fight over the land. The result would likely have been the same without the UN.

My point still stands: Palestinian Arabs and Jews were offered a deal, the Jews chose it, the Arabs chose war. How’s that working out for the Arabs?

@55: “What authority did the UN have to purport to ‘offer’ the Palestinians a portion of their land?”

Great question! That would be the League of Nations San Remo Resolution of 1920. 😂

The land in question did not belong to the Palestinians but to the Ottoman Empire. The Ottoman Empire lost the land when they lost World War I. There has never been a sovereign Palestine, neither before nor after the establishment of modern Israel. Palestinians were offered a sovereign Palestine in 1948, which would have been their first sovereignty ever, but they rejected it in favor of an attempt to push the Jews into the sea—an attempt which ended about as well for them as it always does! 🤣🤣🤣

@51: “so you think the Joint Chiefs were living on military bases for the entirety of, say, the war in Afghanistan (20 years)?”

lol, I just saw this little gem. I assume you asked this question facetiously, but since you did ask it, the answer to your question is: Yes, yes they did. 😂

The commandant of the Marine Corps lives at 8th and I Barracks, a military base.

The chief of naval operations lives at the Washington Navy Yard, a military base.

The army chief of staff, air force chief of staff, and chairman of the joint chiefs all live at Fort Myer, a military base.

ha ha ha, looks like whatever point you were trying to make, it didn’t work out too well for you! 😂

@56 "My point still stands: Palestinian Arabs and Jews were offered a deal, the Jews chose it, the Arabs chose war. How’s that working out for the Arabs?"

My point is they both chose war and it's not working out great for either, and both should be held accountable for abuses they commit along the way

@59: Your point is wrong, but that is because you arrive at your points on the basis of ignorance and prejudice! 😜

@59: Maybe in Mandatory Palestine they had both chosen war against the British Empire and each other, but the Palestinian Jews accepted the UN’s offer of a Jewish State alongside an Arab State.

You still haven’t given any reason why you consider the land to have belonged exclusively to the Palestinian Arabs. Neither the Ottoman nor British Empires agreed; ditto for the UN. What’s the basis for your claim?

@61: “Neither the Ottoman nor British Empires agreed; ditto for the UN.”

And ditto as well the League of Nations! 😄 In fact, the only people who have ever thought of it as exclusively Arab land were the Arabs, but since they were never the lands’ sovereigns, it was never up to them.

In fairness to the Palestinian Arabs, they, too, are an indigenous nation of Israel. But they are not the only indigenous nation, nor the oldest indigenous nation. The Arabs must make room for the Jews, just as the Jews must make room for the Arabs. Two states for two peoples, as has been the peace plan for over a century now. 😃

@53 I guess I could say the same to you. Why shouldn't we forcibly dismantle any country who has at one time absorbed land that was inhabited by someone else? The answer is of course there would be no countries if we did that. Your example of Ukraine and Russia is pretty weak considering that is a current conflict and by your own logic Ukraine was probably inhabited by someone else before the Soviet Union was formed so Russia has no claim to that territory anyway. You can go round and round in circles as has been happening for the better part of 18 months in these threads over who lived there first, genetics, government mandates and the rise and fall of empires. Those are all great topics over a pint. None of it changes the reality that both are there today, neither is leaving so they can either make peace and build a prosperous society or continue their path of destruction. Palestinians could have the country they want tomorrow if they just accepted the reality of today.

@62, @63: “Palestinians could have the country they want tomorrow if they just accepted the reality of today.”

And — thanks in no small part to the Abandon Harris movement, and Comrade Sawant — “the reality of today” includes the single most powerful man in the history of the world now speaking openly of dispossessing the Palestinians from their prime Mediterranean beachfront property. They may not have another 75 years in which to make a peace deal which includes retaining said land. I would strongly suggest they immediately stop wasting their precious time entertaining eliminationist fantasies from the likes of kristo’, ‘bob, and thirteen12, and start making some serious two-state peace proposals. Now.

@63, @64: Better to reign in hell than serve in heaven! 😅

@61 "You still haven’t given any reason why you consider the land to have belonged exclusively to the Palestinian Arabs."

Demographic data for the first decades of the 20th century and about 1000 years prior. And I'm not saying all the land belonged exclusively to Arabs, but they were the dominant majority and it's a known fact that thousands were driven out of their homes and off their land by the now-Israelis.

@66: "Demographic data for the first decades of the 20th century..."

Which means the results of many explicitly anti-Jewish immigration and land-ownership policies in Palestine, enforced by the Ottoman Empire in the final decades it ruled Palestine. It enforced these policies not for the benefit of Palestinian Arabs (the Ottoman Empire's Arab subjects would suffer greatly during WWI), but to maintain strict Imperial control over their conquered province of Palestine. So, you're endorsing imperialist outsider rule over locals in Palestine. While, at the very same time, rejecting the authorities of the League of Nations and the UN. Why, exactly, was foreign imperial rule better than local settler-colonist rule?

"...and about 1000 years prior."

Sure. But if 1000 years is good, then 3000 years must be better! (Whoops, there was a Jewish state in Palestine at that time! No good!)

So, you have anti-Jewish discriminatory policies, imposed by a foreign Imperial power upon voiceless inhabitants of Palestine, plus some date you pulled straight out of your ass. Have you an actual reason we should consider Palestinian Arabs as the preferred inhabitants of Palestine?

@67 no I mean continuously for 1000 years. Jews had been a vanishingly small minority in the region for at least 1000 years, that's why I consider their claim significantly less strong. I don't consider the fact they had a kingdom there 3000 years ago to be persuasive at all.

@68: "Jews had been a vanishingly small minority in the region for at least 1000 years,"

Thanks, in part, to Roman imperial policies. Which included (but were not limited to), a long siege, tearing their temple down, and then forcibly scattering the survivors.

Any particular reason you relentlessly value foreign imperial control of that land over, say, local settler-colonist rule? At least the latter rulers actually live there.

@69: Whether the original, indigenous nation’s numbers were great or small, their presence on their indigenous land preserved their national claim. Unlike all the other nations who came and went in Israel over the millennia, the Jews alone never went extinct in Israel. Compared to the Jews, Arabs in generally are Johnny-come-lately, and Palestinian Arabs in particular even more so. A hundred years ago, these people thought they were Syrians, but now suddenly they’re this new thing called Palestinian? OK I guess! 😂

@70 "the original, indigenous nation"

Again, even per their own fairytale book, Jews were not the original, indigenous nation in the region. And, other than religious tradition, early 20th century Eastern European Jews shared just as little in common with ancient Judeans as their contemporary Arab Palestinians did with ancient Canaanites. You guys are trying so hard to justify this. Why not just admit you support the Israeli claim primarily because they are US allies but also because they are relatively white?

@70: The fun part about these threads comes when watching folks like 'bob and 1312 try to pretend Palestine's small Jewish population c. 1900 was the result of some mysteriously unidentifiable local organic process, which just naturally produced some ideal Palestinian population. In fact, the foreign empires which ruled Palestine, of which the Romans and Ottomans were but two, had excellent reasons for driving Jews off that land, and keeping Jews off of it. Of all the many peoples who have lived on that land, the Jews were reliably the least obedient (and most troublesome) of all imperial subjects, forever prone to chronic resistance and violent rebellions. Reducing Jewish numbers was key to maintaining foreign imperial control of that land, as the Ottomans well knew and behaved.

Watching modern-day 'progressives' inadvertently kiss the boots of long-dead foreign imperialists -- in the name of local freedom, no less! -- makes for one of the more academic manifestations of Horseshoe Theory, but also (IMHO) one of the most amusing. The understanding is not strong in these ones.

@71: “because they are relatively white?”

lol, most Israelis are what American progressives would call “brown.” Your racism is showing again, ew! 😂😂😂

I see you’re back on the Canaanites again too, lol. Hebrew is the only surviving Canaanite language. The more you talk up Canaanites, the stronger you prove the Jewish claim to Israel! 🤣🤣🤣

we hear
Lots here
re 'what The
Left thinks.' hear here:

The Chris Hedges Report
(w/ Professor Katherine Franke)

America’s Constitutional Crisis

The arrest and detention of Mahmoud Khalil, Columbia University graduate and leader in the anti-genocide student movement, signals a dark shift in American politics with deep legal implications.

Mahmoud Khalil’s arrest and detention in a Louisiana ICE facility is a harbinger for a new authoritarian era of the United States. Khalil’s arrest, the capitulation of Columbia University against dissent and protest by its own students and the Trump administration’s threat of stripping the university of $400 million in grants if it does not meet its requests is just one place where the tentacles of fascism tighten their grip.

Katherine Franke, a former law school professor at Columbia, is on the front lines of this assault. Her support for student protests and her condemnation of the university for not addressing the harassment of pro-Palestinian students has earned what she called, “a termination dressed up in more palatable terms.”

Franke joins host Chris Hedges on this episode of The Chris Hedges Report to address the Constitutional crisis that faces the US, how it has manifested itself on university campuses and what are the next steps in challenging it.

Chris Hedges; Mar 19, 2025

an Awesome, recorded interview; many oodles:
https://chrishedges.substack.com/p/americas-constitutional-crisis-w

liars and propgandists and aipac
may conflate pro-Palestine, anti-
Genocide with anti-Semitism
but They’re just trying to
sell You their little
Genocide Lite.

do
Not
buy it.

“ Her support for student protests and her condemnation of the university for not addressing the harassment of pro-Palestinian students”

By harassment she means consequences for discriminating against Jewish students, defacing and vandalizing public property, interfering with the operation of the university and countless violation of the code of conduct. It’s ok when they violate the civil rights of others to protest but calling them on their bullshit or facing the consequence of their actions is “harassment” they keep exposing themsleves to be empty and awful people.

@72 "Watching modern-day 'progressives' inadvertently kiss the boots of long-dead foreign imperialists"

Meanwhile you're kissing the boots of a current apartheid state because it's convenient for American imperialism

@73 I see you don't know what "relatively" means

@76: You're the one arguing that the results of discriminatory anti-Jewish policies from imperial occupiers should dictate who controls that land today. That is an endorsement of imperialism, pure and simple. By endorsing the results of imperialism, you have forfeit any standing to claim you care about local control of that land.

"... a current apartheid state..."

I see you share 'bob's confusion in reading court rulings.

@77

when
sociopaths
(& aipac) Make
up ALL The Rules.

hard to Blame'em:
they're pretty
damn Used
To it by
now.