The same people that are just learning about memes and groypers and Nick Fuentes are about the learn the difference between a trans person and a femme boy and who Catboy Kami ais nd the fact that people on the Right supposedly hate the former while secretly having sex with the latter and I'm here for it. Exciting times.

Got so excited I can hardly type.

"who Catboy Kami is and"

I hate to disgree with thought leaders like Steve Bannon, but it kind of seems at this point that the motive of the guy with a trans gf who called Kirk a fascist and killed him isn't really in dispute anymore.

@1 The groyper conspiracy theory is over. You fell for the false reporting and reposted the false info about the "Hey fascist, catch" line being from Helldivers (it isn't). The reason he said those things, and the reason he told his family Kirk was hateful, and the reason he told his partner Kirk was hateful and that was why he killed him, is because that's what he believed. It's indisputable. It's tough to admit you were wrong and people shouldn't have believed you and you reposted provable falsehoods, but that's just what it is. Use this opportunity to grow and shift your media consumption a little.

@3 You guys REALLY haven't even looked up who Nick Fuentes is or what he does and stands for or anything about the groypers, have ya? Not a single thing eh? I know willful ignorance has always been your brand but good lord.

Nick Fuentes said that it's gay for men to enjoy having sex with women. He's a non-white White Supremacist. He's accidentally streamed himself watching gay porn. He went on a gay date with another famous right winger name Catboy Kami.

This kid having a boyfriend (trans or otherwise) doesn't preclude him from also being a far right wing Groyper. It actually makes it more likely.

Do a little research. It won't hurt you. I promise.

Why should the amount of a fine be in line with the criminal's budget? $40K is probably at the low end for cleaning up tagging.

I'm positive that not many of us have 10K lying around for a DUI fine plus lawyer fees etc.

@6 This is really kind of astonishing. There's still not a single piece of evidence that shows Robinson was a Groyper, not one, and every statement he's known to have made contradicts it, but you will absolutely insist on being wrong if it means not admitting it.

"I don't think jail is the place to fix troubled kids. And so I'm not gonna be hypocrite and say that I think that they should be in there, but gotta figure out something that does work for everybody, especially the kids. "

--the victim.

Yes, by all means let's figure out Something That Works -- something besides consequences, obvs. Hopefully these poor troubled youths will soon be free to get back to doing what they truly love -- beating the shit out of you or somebody you know.

Don't let Carceral Solutions stand between them and their dreams!

@5 Uh... I've spent many, many hours playing Helldivers. The arrow combination is absolutely from Helldivers and it's the most memed thing in the game. I don't need to research that. I've literally done it countless times and seen the memes for over a year. Just another thing you don't understand even the slightest bit.

@6: For the sake of argument, let's assume Tyler Robinson is a groyper. What's the teaching moment you would like for society to learn from that?

Not to get in the way of our endlessly fascinating attempts to get inside the head of a depraved assassin, but...

Meanwhile the Trump administration is unilaterally and unconstitutionally going about dismantling federal support for cancer research, among other scientific research being discontinued. And the highly educated normie journalists reporting on all this are at a loss to explain why they are doing something which in a normal political environment would be considered political suicide. I think the people best equipped to explain this are the likes of Anne Applebaum, Ruth Ben-Ghiat, Timothy Snyder, and (if she were still alive) Hannah Arendt. Here's my best guess.

I'm reminded now of that quote by anti-government, pro-oligarch activist Grover Norquist. "I don't want to abolish government. I simply want to reduce it to the size where I can drag it into the bathroom and drown it in the bathtub."

I don't think Donald Trump wants to destroy the American economy. I think he just wants to shrink it enough that he can put a leash around its neck.

Trump looks over at Vladimir Putin and his total control of the rump petro-state that is Russia, and he goes, "I'll have what he's having."

@10 That there's a large cult of people on the internet that probably shouldn't have unfettered access to guns because they're all absolutely batshit crazy and are very likely to kill people for stupid reasons.

It's the same thing the left has wanted the enter time, guy. Better gun control.

@9 The false thing you posted wasn't about the Helldivers arrow combo, it was where you falsely said "hey fascist, catch" was "from Helldivers". Someone reading this false info would come away with the false impression that this line appears somewhere, anywhere in the game, which it does not. If tht's the quality of your "research", well, it does a lot toward explaining why you believe things that don't have a shred of evidence.

@8 that has already happened. Both young men have been approved to go to football practice and participate in games. It's funny, cause people claim Washington state is a trans sanctuary.

"MAGA morons are so desperate to blame the left for Kirk’s killing."

Utah County Attorney Jeff Gray: Tyler Robinson's parents said he "had become more political and had started to lean more to the left, becoming more pro-gay and trans rights oriented" after his boyfriend started to transition genders.

If you want to be maximally misinformed, read 𝘛𝘩𝘦 𝘚𝘵𝘳𝘢𝘯𝘨𝘦𝘳. Every word in it is a lie, including 𝘢𝘯𝘥 and 𝘵𝘩𝘦.

@12: And the exact same thing is true if he isn't a groyper. It really doesn't matter what flavor of batshit crazy Tyler Robinson is.

13 The entire bullet was a meme he was creating in hopes people would start to say it online. You really have no idea how memes or online video games work. Someone made a meme that said "For Democracy!" and had the same stratagem code and now half the people say "For Democracy" when they drop that bomb on people. You're way out of your lane in this one, Mr. Smarty Pants ...but by all means... I've only been playing Helldivers for 10 years. How long have you been playing it?

@8 I'm really surprised TS covered this story because it highlights the conflicts with their positions. Members of the trans community should be free to walk around the city but this horrific attack was committed by two brothers ages 15 and 17 and according to TS this means they just need a hug.

"They were choking me while one of them was stomping on my face at one point."

Renton Police spokesperson Meeghan Black said, "She was savagely beaten on the ground where she was defenseless."

"Police called to the scene identified and arrested two of the suspects, two brothers ages 15 and 17"

but of course in steps one TS favorite judiciaries Veronica Galvan (the resistance in a robe)

"Judge Veronica Galvan found probable cause for second-degree assault, and released both boys on electronic home monitoring with allowances for "pro-social activities" like football, and a juvenile probation counselor will set a curfew time"

So once again we see because of the "no youth jail" movement these "kids" are given a light slap on the wrist and sent home so they can still play football while the victim errrr person impacted by assault is facing reconstructive facial surgery and massive medical bills. Unless TS is willing to change their stance on epidemic of youth committing crimes they are completely complicit when this happens.

On a similar note the guy that burglarized Macklemore has a very similar story. He is also the same guy that was tazing elderly people in the CID and stealing from them. He was just let go with $50K bail in the hopes he can do better lol

https://komonews.com/news/local/violent-macklemore-court-appearance-high-profile-homeowners-blake-snell-seahawks-richard-sherman-10-counts-bellevue-jeweler-julio-rodriguez-2023-department-of-corrections

"Unrelated to the Constant Onslaught of Transphobic Bullshit, I’m Sure:

Four teens allegedly attacked a trans woman near the
Renton Transit Center on Monday, 'savagely beating her'
while making homophobic comments. Two of the boys have
been arrested, and police are looking for two others." --Megan Selig

@69

"Far
left wing
hate killed
Charlie Kirk.

That's a fact now.

The trans community has a
huge anger management problem,
that should be apparent now - I hope.

Kkkoolie's $$$
on September 17, 2025
at 7:34 AM Report this." consider it Reported.

https://www.thestranger.com/slog-am/2025/09/16/80243759/slog-am-robert-redford-is-dead-israel-invades-gaza-trump-and-friends-threaten-democracy/comments/69

@16 No shit. But this literally is the first shooting any of you have actually cared about so...

@6:

"Nick Fuentes said
that it's gay for men to
enjoy having sex with women."

well
isn't it
OBVIOUS?

and
Tenderness
and Caring and
being Human/Humane and
And AND ALL THOSE FEMMY TRAITS!?

GAY
af.

REAL MEN
Can ONLY
Be Angry.

@20: Well, complete the sentence: ....so ?

@17 I'm glad you can at least sort of admit the line is an original by Robinson, mixed with a weird brag about playing video games in your 40s.

"Hey fascist, catch!"
-Tyler Robinson

"Why did I do it? I had enough of his hatred. Some hate can't be negotiated out."
-Tyler Robinson

"A lot of you really need to sit down and think about how easily you believed a huge, obvious pack of lies about this, in the face of clear evidence to the contrary, just because you heard it repeated a lot and found it ideologically validating. Barely distinguishable from MAGA conspiracy nonsense."
-Will Stancil

@22 So... We're hoping that maybe now that it's happened to someone you worship you'll actually help us change it instead of ignoring it like you did when it was... literal babies.

@23 Nearly 205 million people regularly play video games and over half of them are 35+ so super sick burn! I'm completely normal. Got me.

If anyone else wants to see what the tone of this game is... you can watch this clip. It's a satirical game where you "deliver democracy" to "fascists" in the form of giant bugs... You can also watch Starship Troopers or read Starship Troopers to get a similar vibe. It has nothing to do with nazis or actual fascists and therefore the words on the bullet with the command from the game is meant to be ironic or satirical too.

But, yeah... I don't expect republicans to understand satire.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1SYX4KLUqc

@25 They put phone games in there to fudge the stats a little, but hey, if you want to brag about being a middle aged Meme Expert and Online Gamer, fine by me! Own it!

Your entire theory sort of rests on every single thing Robinson ever did and said being ironic, and you still can't see how that puts you in Qanon territory (I'm also not a Republican, so you can add that to the list of falsehoods I've corrected you on).

@24: Me? Who I worship? You can't complete a thought about society without personalizing? You were doing so well too.

Masha and the rest of the band must have really pissed off Vlad. For a KGB thug, he's remarkably thin-skinned.

@25: "It has nothing to do with nazis or actual fascists and therefore the words on the bullet with the command from the game is meant to be ironic or satirical too."

For the gunned down in cold blood, that's a distinction without a difference.

And you have the gall to call for gun control?

Graffiti is trash... but of course the Stranger is "deeply concerned" with the poor, misunderstood graffiti "artists". Nobody gives a shit about your "tag".

@30 the author wrote: "Here’s the thing: I’m gonna go out on a limb and say these dudes don’t have an extra $40,000 lying around. The city won’t get any money. Davison knows that. It’s performative bullshit"

What part of that indicates to you "deep concern" for taggers? Do you not read these articles or do you just hope nobody else does?

I never realized Megan was a Viking - small world.

@18, FTW!

@26,

You might not be a currently registered Republican, but your ideology and rhetoric here has always very consistently aligned quite nicely with that of Trumpists. It's helpful and important to remember that while all modern day Republicans are repugnant shitheads, not all repugnant shitheads are necessarily Republicans.

HAHAHAHAHA Jimmy Kimmel's stupid show got NUKED because he lied and told his audience that Taylor Robinson is MAGA. Apparently, ABC doesn't believe the bullshit that so many goofy naive libs here at Slog are desperate to believe. I was right all along:

Disney's ABC pulls 'Jimmy Kimmel Live!' after FCC chair criticizes the host's Charlie Kirk comments

The network confirmed to NBC News it is "indefinitely" pulling the show.

"During his monologue on Monday night, Kimmel raised the possibility that Tyler Robinson, the suspect in the killing, might have been a pro-Trump Republican.

“The MAGA Gang (is) desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them and doing everything they can to score political points from it,” Kimmel said.

Some on the left had sought to label Robinson a member of the far right. Text messages from Robinson released Tuesday by authorities show that he targeted Kirk because Robinson “had enough of his hatred.”

https://www.nbcnews.com/pop-culture/tv/disneys-abc-pulls-jimmy-kimmel-live-fcc-chair-blasts-hosts-charlie-kir-rcna232033?utm_source=firefox-newtab-en-us

"here Attorney General Pam Bondi is threatening to file charges against an Office Depot employee who declined to print fliers for a Charlie Kirk’s vigil"

Hey, anybody remember that gay cake thing? LOL

ABC The Appeasement Broadcasting Company

poor
Weak
Cadet
Bonespurs
thinskinned
belligerent furious
tasteless spoiled fraudulent
bankrupt rapey contractor-stiffing

but
other
than That
what a Role Model!

the Leader
of the Free World
a diaper-wearing tyrant
gonna stripmine the world
for fun and profits beginning

Here. and EVERYONE's Capitulating

so
far

@35: Kimmel really screwed the pooch on this one. All the evidence isn't in yet as to what Robinsons politics and sympathies are. And it may never be. Because either way, the result will just be to stir up more hatred against one side or the other. Unless the prosecution needs this to justify a longer sentence, they may just sit on it forever.

They have the rifle, DNA, fingerprints and a confession to the roommate. Tyler is a sick kid who probably should have gotten some help from friends, family or a professional. That's all we need to know. Kimmel should have figured this out.

When Clarence Darrow wrote "I've never wished a man dead, but I have read some obituaries with great pleasure" he may have lifted a curtain into one of the darker recesses of the human psyche, but still, he had the good sense to leave the sentiment as a private thought, something done with newspaper in hand, and a cup of tea on the veranda. Darrow also was noted for something else - a blistering, aggressive, and vivid argumentative style he employed in the Forum. I dig that shit - Christopher Hitchens? The Mike Tyson of debates. WFB on Firing Line. Douglas Murray. All happening in the sacred grove of the Western Judeo-Christian tradition.

Anyway, I'm filling out the donation form on Turning Point USA as I type this. Lets see, how much? I need a metric...going to go with $5 per line of Kristo's latest cryptography. Looks like 20...so an even Ben Franklin?! Here we go Kristo...and submit! Yippee!

Processing....here is the obligatory statement of receipt and gratitude;
"Thank you for your generosity in donating to Turning Point USA! With your support, we are able to fuel all of our programs that educate students on what makes America the greatest nation in the history of the world." Fuck yeah, Kristo, we did it! High five!

TPUSA has apparently received over 54k requests for new chapter openings. I'm excited to see that kind of energy. Kristo, dude, you are so welcome! I chose you, out of all the desiccated husks that inhabit this ideological ossuary, to restore the virtues and joy of spirited debate, eloquence, and how can we forget, your specialty, ratiocination.

@39 - "Unless the prosecution needs this to justify a longer sentence, they may just sit on it forever."

Well, he is facing the death penalty, so...

Holmes @35...
Colbert and Kimmel got cancelled because MAGA are such delicate snowflakes that they can't take a joke (jokes that are actually the truth).
Nothing he said compares to the vile things said on Newsmax, or ONN. Or Fox.

To quote a MAGA T-shirt from not long ago, "Fuck your feelings!" This is another example of fascism unfolding before our eyes.

@35,

I'll miss Kimmell's program if he is indeed done at ABC, but the reason he and so, so many other left wing talk show hosts and comedians have been so wildly successful, is because Donald is a hilariously stupid shitstain that gives them so, SO much low hanging fruit and material to make fun of. So long as we have a POTUS who'll suggest we inject bleach to combat a viral outbreak, or schedule his major campaign events outside of a dildo shop because he's too stupid to filter google search results, I can assure you we'll have a never ending stream of folks willing to step up and exploit his catastrophically embarrassing stupidity for their benefit and our entertainment.

@43 - agreed. Late night comics have creative license to be wildly inaccurate and offensive to political adversaries. We just lost a chunk of the American way.

@40 "... All happening in the sacred grove of the Western Judeo-Christian tradition. Anyway, I'm filling out the donation form on Turning Point USA as I type this."

That first sentence tells me this isn't the first time you've at very least considered donating to TP USA or similar. There's laying it on a bit thick and then there's "the sacred grove of Western Judeo-Christian tradition." If you weren't incredibly obviously a massive nerd you'd be exactly who the Proud Boys are looking for.

@45. I am sorry to report that no, I never have neither donated to TPUSA, nor have considered it until now, and the reason is obvious - Charlie had what I considered the very wrong position on Ukraine, among many other issues. I have been profligate here in TS on that topic. He was never even on my radar.

But as I see it, we are now in hard drive root directory stuff now.

Someone killed him for political speech, which he was engaged in when he died, and what I consider an essential component of our civilizational inheritance. Im sorry you take umbrage of how that inheritance was in fact acquired, but it matters not. What matters to me right now is the outrageous jubilation of his demise being openly expressed. There is simply no way forward with that attitude.

Proud Boys? Never, and you know it. The only time I actually even "felt" feisty was last year when CDrizzle lectured me on why blockading I5 in the name of solidarity for Palestine took precedence over me getting my friend to radiation treatment (N3 breast cancer), which again, ultimately led to nothing more than a very generous donation to AIPAC.

@46. I don't recall a lecture, nor did I ever directly endorse blocking traffic, but if you have enough cash lying around to fund genocide and electing compromised fascist-enablers who are dismantling free speech, maybe you could spare some money for the American Cancer Society instead. Would go a lot further than the malevolence you have bankrolled.

@46 "Someone killed him for political speech"

Someone killed him for espousing anti-trans bigotry. The shooter said so explicitly in the text messages in the charging document. It's telling that this particular speech is what you feel most strongly about supporting financially.

48: Differences of opinions on gender ideology is not anti-trans bigotry. Else I would be a bigot.

Holmes @39: "Kimmel really screwed the pooch on this one. All the evidence isn't in yet as to what Robinsons politics and sympathies are."

This is classic "blame the rape victim for dressing provocatively" rhetoric. Yes, from my standpoint what Jimmy Kimmel said was stupid, but not as stupid as Sherlock's logic here.

Speaking of stupid, I'm trying to make sense of this comment by thekossack @40. He's someone who claims to support Ukraine and he's donating to Turning USA to spite some anonymous raving lunatic on a blog comment thread?! Huh? What? That's a bit like someone who is concerned about the ethnic cleansing in Gaza donating to AIPAC to spite some anonymous raving lunatic on a blog.

You really can't make up this level of stupid. And we wonder how we got Trump.

Holmes and thekossack, I hope you won't resent me too much for my assessment of your judgment.

@50

"anonymous raving lunatic"?
ah, wormmy, your daily
projections get more
and more Accurate
with each & every
posting. kudos

@40 -- $5/line?
Not including spaces?

what a Cheapskate

were you Half
the 'Patriot' you
mistakenly believe
yourself to be your
Donation$ to AIPAC\Israel'd
fund Israel's Socialized Medicine
for the next twenty Years. be like Palestinians

and Give till it Hurts. and then Keep Giving. till the Well runs Dry.

and
then
Keep
it up till bibi's
Israel and Trumpftopia
are building Resorts on your grave.

Hey, that's MISTER Anonymous Raving Lunatic to you, buddy!

@41: "Well, he is facing the death penalty, so..."
All the more reason to disallow political philosophy as evidence in the trial. That'll just turn it into a circus. You can't get Robinson any deader than what the firing squad will do for plain old vanilla first degree murder.

@50: "This is classic "blame the rape victim for dressing provocatively" rhetoric."
What is the rhetoric? But that's a good point. You can't say Kirk deserved what he got any more than "My, that skirt is pretty short." Same logic applies. Political/religious ideology isn't needed to justify a charge of assault on another person. Or modify the terms of that charge.

"Holmes and thekossack, I hope you won't resent me too much for my assessment of your judgment."

No resentment. Your logic doesn't even parse.

Holmes, I wasn't aware that I--or anyone else on these threads--had been out there saying that Charlie Kirk deserved to die. But nice try at the what-aboutism and changing the subject.

'Chuckles"
the Kirk certainly sel-
dom failed to recommend Death
for his political opposition's members

perhaps
his Wish was
to Become a Martyr

if so he
Succeeded
remarkably Well

@46: "What matters to me right now is the outrageous jubilation of his demise being openly expressed."

So I'll ask you, yet again: do you believe you are seeing that here, in the Stranger's comments, now? Because you've made that claim here repeatedly in the past week, and, IIRC, produced nothing but some incoherent paraphrases of barth, which barth promptly debunked.

Look, give your money to whomever you want; this is capitalism, where the private sector constantly wastes far larger chunks of capital. In your own little way, you've joined them; congratulations. If you want to pretend your wastage had some connection to some principle somewhere, that's fine too. Your citation of "...the Western Judeo-Christian tradition," shows you really don't know (or maybe you do, and don't care) how hard the Christians tried to keep humanity mired in an eternal dark age, succeeding for a thousand years, until the literal re-birth of the very same Western culture they'd tried to kill forever.

@54: I don't see where anyone has been making the accusation you claim. However, I do see a lot of people defending 'First Amendment rights' of anyone inciting violence. Or suggesting that the First Amendment even protects such rights.

As to the what-about-ism, I'll say it again: Your statements don't parse very well.