Comments

1

I just want to highlight my favorite comment from yesterday. It's from jexpat @38:
Wow, this place certainly has turned into a haven for bigots, xenophobes and Israeli influnce peddlers.

Maybe it's time for the comment section to go the way of the Portland Mercury before it turns into the cesspit at Willamette Week.

https://www.thestranger.com/slog-am/2025/11/18/80332163/slog-am-bear-gulch-fire-contained-un-approves-us-plan-for-gaza-most-detainees-in-chicago-ice-blitz-had-no-criminal-record/comments/38

2

cressona dear, I've reached my sole life goal of having 10,000 slog posts, so I would be fine with that.

2

@1: Or you could have started us off with the right tone by commenting on one of the news items.

3

“Congrats! You’d be smart at any point in American history!”

Thanks for the affirmation, New York Magazine! 😂 But before anyone lets their smarter-than-an-eighth-grader-from-1899 score go to their head, try my favorite of these 19th century scholastics tests, the Harvard entrance exam of 1869! 😄

Section 1: Translate into Latin.
Section 2: Latin Grammar.
Section 3 (and this where thumpus goes off the rails): Greek Grammar. 🤣🤣🤣

4

@2: Imagine if we tucked away $1.00 for every Slog moment!

5

btw, I saw the Mayor-Elect in the tower yesterday. She was in a very nice black suit, and looked quite chic. I was impressed.

6

We are not jonesing for an income tax. Most of us are jonesing for lower state spending.

7

5 - I'm jealous. I wish my apprehensions were placated by mere fashion choices. Superficial libs just go with the flow.

8

@7 you missed an opportunity to clarify for everyone that the arrested ICE officer was just a hebephile so no big deal

9

8 - huh?

10

@6 came to say this. Budget the money you have vs. going looking for a way to take more from your citizens. I'd LOVE to sit down with a copy of the state budget and have each department head explain where all of their money is going and what the actual benefit is to us.

11

"True,
this cost should
be paid by those who
make the most money from this
environmental menace, but they will not.

All
they
want is
just the profits
and none of the real costs.

As a consequence, we
the people have to pay for a
socialism that only the top earners enjoy."*

--@thee Fucking STRANGER

"Fucking BRAVISSIMO!" I say.

now, give me
a Moment to ALL
CAPS THIS For the
Gleefully Willfully and
JOYFULLY fucking Uniformed

oh, and the Anti-"SOCIALISM!"
Lying, Cunning Propagan-
dists and Profiteers.

brb!

(save me a Spot!)

12

@10 the budget adds $100 million intended for local departments to hire more cops. Cutting that would more than make up for the revenue shortfall. Boom problem solved

13

re
ditching
tS's commentariat

there are
not infrequently
Gems that appear on
these very Pages by some
of tS's commentariat. To eliminate
them, because of a reich-wing Infestation

would be a Sorry Loss for
Readers of tS and for,
Arguably, the
Citizenry at
Large.

take for instance
this recent Gem addres-
sing a serious Problem tS's
been Inflicted with for YEARS:

"I'm just stating
what I think is an
overwhelming moral
and practical case against
the particular choices [thedjt]'s made.

If you support those choices
and want to defend them convincingly,
then you have to make a case for them on their merits.

By demanding instead
that Trump's critics pledge allegiance
to a patently unrealistic ideal and declaring victory when
they refuse, you're essentially just creating and destroying a straw man."

--@CKathes on November 18, 2025 at 7:59 PM

elegant
succinct
Factual as fuck,
& gracefully delivered.

an admittedly
minuscule sampling;
go to her comment history*
for Oodles more; and, speaking of
Gems: https://www.thestranger.com/users/1500457/catalinavelduray/comments

but Again, to shut it down
because of a few Bad Faith
actors'd be a Major mistake

*https://www.thestranger.com/users/1500457/catalinavelduray

perhaps a minimal pay wall
like over @ substack may
be in order - Especially
if there were an Edit
\ Delete button.

sign me up.

14

@13 -- oh
and the formatting
of CKathes' comment?

All mine.

15

@1 Some people will always be thrilled at the idea of censorship in order to combat the ever-present threat and scourge of opinions that differ from theirs.

16

@13: No edit or delete buttons as people should reap the consequences of the nasty, cringing, and embarrassing things they publish. People should calm down and think it over before clicking 'Post Comment'. My God.

17

Most people also understand that bigot/racist/xenophobe are just labels Democrats use now to signal that they believe the target is acceptable to be murdered or assassinated

18

I just can't get excited about the presumably-anti-Sinderman policy change re: political consultants' access to City Hall. Either people are political consultants or they're paid by the city, and the twain shouldn't meet. It's a natural result of Sinderman and Harrell blurring the line between those roles.

Fascinating that Nelson didn't trust Harrell not to blab whatever she had to say to Sinderman, knowing that Sinderman was working for Foster. That seems like the real trust issue there.

19

@15 & 17

Excellent points!

had we an Edit button I could Fix my

"reich-wing Infestation"

to "Bad Faith Commentators
trolling solely for
Trolling's
Sake."

20

@17 I didn't think thumpus using multiple crying-laughing emojis to express his feelings about Arab children being bombed would ever be topped, but there it is: the most unhinged comment ever on SLOG. "bigot/racist/xenophobe are just labels Democrats use now to signal that they believe the target is acceptable to be murdered." Wow.

21

@20

and why Not? when the
gloves're Off Nothing's
outta Bounds

22

@20: What about when you described Hamas's videotaped beheading of a wounded hostage as an act of Palestinian self-defense? 😂 I still laugh about that one, it was such a great example of progressive thought! 😝

23

@22 I still can't tell whether you realize I was mocking you claiming bombing hospitals was Israeli self defense but glad you got a laugh out of it either way

24

@20. I will let Thumpus speak for himself, but I doubt he was rejoicing over the explicit bombing of civilians. Perhaps you were misinterpreting his rejoice in Israel's victory over Hamas and it's patrons, which I would hope you share as well.

But I can't shake the conviction that there a great multitude of people OUTSIDE the conflict zone which Hamas tailored this entire tragedy around - people who would immediately jump to the Palestinian cause once the IDF began throwing lead, people whose initial emotional reaction would trump any understanding of either the conflict as a whole, or at least understanding the cynical strategy Hamas pursued. In short, if we can imagine a population NOT so naive than we can also imagine Hamas never even contemplating inviting their fellow Gazans to bleed for international sympathy. I'll have no part in that. But if you carry on in that manner then YOU will surely invite a repeat performance. Hamas is the the macabre thespian, you are the gullible audience.

500 miles of tunnels, zero civilian bomb shelters. If not jejune foreign observers, at least everyday Gazans ought to know now how criminally exploited they were and rise up against them.

25

@13 Thanks for the compliment although I thought that comment (like my others yesterday) was a bit verbose even for me. It's not one of my favorites. By the way, my preferred pronouns are he/they, though I don't object to she/her. (Hell, I'm even fine with "jones," seeing as how I'm jonesing for an income tax.)

26

And if any changes are to be made to the comment section, perhaps one could be fixing the busted avatar upload system? How long has it been now? One of the shoddiest remnants of the Rich Smith era...

27

@25: So you're non-binary just part of the time?

28

@26: I don't think they want to. Too much overhead and maintenance of old Javascript probably.

29

nekrasova @15 @17 @26, excellent comments. I think you've just made a compelling case for why The Stranger's comment threads should be shut down for good. My message to The Stranger's new publisher on comments: "Shut it down, baby, shut it down."

BTW, to be honest, my real disappointment about yesterday's comment thread wasn't so much about the usual suspects who were engaging in their usual virtual tagging. It was that you hadn't joined in. I so look forward to your comments as a way to get the latest MAGA spin on the Epstein files saga.

Speaking of which, any idea why Trump didn't bother to release the files by edict without needing veto-proof legislation from Congress? My best guess is that he wasn't sure he was allowed to, what with his very timid view of executive power.

30

@23: No it was a really great comment, I actually cite your example IRL when I have to explain the differences between a liberal and a progressive. 😁

The distinctive point was that you couldn’t perceive a moral difference between Israel attacking a hospital that Hamas was unlawfully using for military purposes, versus Hamas filming themselves sawing off the head of a wounded civilian whom they had captured for use as a hostage. Like, you really thought the beheading thing was a snappy rebuttal to the hospital thing, it was just such a perfect illustration of progressive delusion! 🤣🤣🤣

31

@30 "I actually cite your example IRL"

So do I qualify for some type of troll of the year award now or what

32

Where would you cut state spending, Swiftress dear? If you were to ask me, the only people who should be opposed to a state income tax are the parasitical wealthy, for that would mean they’d have to pay their share.

A properly implemented income tax might even lower housing costs, if we got enough wealthy people to leave the state and dissuaded new ones from coming here.

33

@24 you should contact the UN and ICJ, amongst numerous other NGOs and governments, to offer your services as a Conflict Understander to replace the "people whose initial emotional reaction would trump any understanding" they all apparently employ currently.

35

@31: No, your joke perfectly illustrated your ignorance, that's what made it so great. The punchline wasn't quite what you thought it was, though! 🤣

36

@33: "contact the UN and ICJ, amongst numerous other NGOs and governments, to offer your services as a Conflict Understander"

Sigh, once again with the international law mixups. 😅 The UN and the ICJ are not NGOs and they are also not governments. They are intergovernmental organizations.

You continue to excel in your role as Conflict Misunderstander, but unfortunately there is no call for services of that nature! 😂

37

@32: "A properly implemented income tax might even lower housing costs,"

better as:

A properly implemented income tax might even lower property taxes.

Right?

38

@32 That's what we pay our legislators to figure out. Make do with the money you collect now. No income tax. No excise tax. No compromise.

39

@36 aw geez you got me please don't tell people about this IRL

40

Coolidge dear, a properly implemented income tax WOULD lower property taxes. And that, in turn, would lower housing costs.

Please make a note of it.

41

@CKathes -- apologies for misgendering you,
glad you straightened me out! I find your
comments refreshingly accurate and
your ability to stick to the subject'
regardless of personal attacks
emulatable -- I've Miles to
go but who Knows?

thanks for your comment
and, for all of them.

Keep on Jonesin'!

43

@39: Ha ha, don’t worry I won’t mention it! Your @33 is merely an example of a progressive failing to understand what a “government” is. 😁 It’s lol-worthy but not noteworthy. 😆 (Especially on a day when Slog feeds us a test to see if you are smarter than an eighth grader from 1899, ha ha ha)

Your earlier mistake between lawful war and unlawful terrorism was much more emblematic of the progressive movement as a whole, which is why I use it irl as an example of problems in contemporary progressive thought. 😘

44

@29 I suspect the game plan is for Trump to keep up his risible claim that he has nothing to hide and wants full transparency, while A.G. Bondi keeps the files (or at least the most embarrassing ones) under wraps by launching new "investigations" into one or more of the various Democrats whose names appear within. She'll of course claim those "investigations" would be compromised by releasing the files. While this would contradict Bondi's infamous memo stating no further inquiry into Epstein was warranted, she's now hinting about "new information" that presumably could allow her to claim the circumstances have changed. Something like that.

45

@23: "...I was mocking you claiming bombing hospitals was Israeli self defense..."

Of course you were. You know of absolutely no evidence of any kind whatsoever to show Hamas hid in hospitals as it fought Isra--

"Heavily armed Hamas fighters seized the Jordanian Field Hospital complex in Gaza City last weekend after a gunbattle with a rival Palestinian group, re-establishing their control over what residents and Israel’s military said had long been a redoubt for the Islamist militants."

"Heavily armed Hamas fighters" were literally walking around, openly and publicly killing Palestinians, and the locals still told the Wall Street Journal's reporters that Hamas had long used the Jordanian Field Hospital complex in Gaza City as a "redoubt" ('fortified place of refuge for soldiers,' for those of you unfamiliar with military stuff) during their war with the IDF.

(https://www.wsj.com/world/middle-east/hamas-gaza-israel-withdrawal-33d69b55?mod=hp_lead_pos7)

Please, do continue mocking the idea that hospitals were a legitimate target for the IDF in Gaza. You really should take every chance you can possibly get to show readers here just how much you ever really did know about the recently-ended conflict there.

46

Hamas is
no Longer an
Existential Threat
to Israel. that does
Not bother Israel who
will bomb Gaza (and Continue
Stealing Homes from Palestine's West Bank)

until the Last Hamas has been Extinguished
and if there are No Longer any Gazans
or West Bankers Israel will Continue
to Claim 'their hands were tied.'

and the World sinks
ever further and
Farther into
the fucking
Abyss, led
in Large
part by
Israel

and all so One man
can keep outta
Prison?

47

@45: Oh he’s always known. I sent him ISR footage of Hamas firing from the windows of a hospital in Gaza. 😛

Everyone’s always known. That’s why the UN Security Council has ordered Hamas to lay down its weapons but has not ordered Israel to lay down its weapons. 😁

Even the State of Palestine is onboard. But western progressives gotta be more Palestinian than the Palestinians! 🤣 After all, they’re not the ones dying for Hamas qital fi sabilillah. 😛

48

Israeli forces raid Palestinian towns in occupied West Bank

Israeli troops have carried out two raids in the occupied West Bank, targeting the village of al-Lubban Asharqiya south of Nablus and the town of Hizma northeast of Jerusalem, the Wafa news agency reports.

In al-Lubban Asharqiya, residents said soldiers opened fire
at a Palestinian vehicle and threw stun grenades in front
of several shops in the village.

In Hizma, the Jerusalem governorate said
Israeli forces stormed the town and fired live ammunition, s
tun grenades and tear gas canisters extensively. No injuries were reported.

Such raids
have become an
almost daily occurrence
across the West Bank, where
Israeli forces routinely carry out arrest
campaigns and incursions into Palestinian towns and villages.

[b]:

a recap of today’s main events:

Israeli air strikes on Gaza City and Khan Younis
have killed at least 28 Palestinians, including
women and children, and injured 77.
Hamas says it marks a
“serious escalation”.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/liveblog/2025/11/19/live-13-killed-in-israeli-air-attack-on-refugee-camp-in-lebanon

Hamas is no longer
an Existential
Threat to
Israel

but
One
would
Never know it

49

ANTIFA is a philosophy, not an organization. Should we be in the business of policing thoughts?

ICE, on the other hand, is a governmental organization, seemingly comprised of criminals and perverts. We very much should be in the business of policing evil actions.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/hundreds-of-immigrants-have-reported-sexual-abuse-at-ice-facilities-most-cases-arent-investigated

50

@45 & 47 you two being so bizarrely emotionally invested makes you easy targets for Israeli propaganda

51

@50: That’s a really great point, maybe the Hamas hospital shooters in the video footage could have been medical doctors testing out new treatment protocols or something! 😄 Like, maybe their rifle fire was exposure therapy for anxiety cases. 😂 Maybe their rocket launchers were a hearing exam! 🤣 It’s so outrageous that the Israelis interrupted these healthcare providers, what a complete genocide! 😆

52

@51 yes this is all very simple and obvious as long as you never once think critically about anything the IDF says

53

@50

"bizarrely emotionally invested"?

those
Two're*
FULL TIME
Spreaders of
Israeli Propaganda

and ALWAYS Quick to Claim
that being Anti-Genocide
makes one a Jew HATER!

and paid
by AIPAC
likely too.

we
Always
get the Pro-
Israel ANTI-Palestine
POV from those two who
then turn around and DEMAND

Everyone Else defend Israel
and CONDEMN Hamas

whilst ALWAYS Quick to Claim
that being Anti-Genocide
makes one a Jew HATER!

*I contend one's
the ventriloquist and
the other's the dummy

who swap places
on Oeccasion just
for shitsngiggles

who're ALWAYS Quick to Claim
that being Anti-Genocide
makes one a Jew HATER!

after
awhile
it just gets

Olde.

54

@52: Ha ha ha so mad! 😂 But listen, don't the IDF's word for it, in fact don't even trust Mister Thumpus if you dont want to! You can watch Hamas on video torturing and executing hostages, firing weapons from hospitals, launching rockets at civilian targets with no military purpose, confessing to rape, fighting from inside residential structures, deploying child soldiers, switching identity between journalist and soldier, using ambulances to transport non-injured personnel, stealing humanitarian aid, and on and on and on. It is unlawful Palestinian misconduct that justifies the Israeli military operations in Gaza, deal with it. 😄

55

@53: yikes, look at you complaining three times in a single post about being called a "Jew HATER" 😁 have you considered maybe you could solve your problem by not trafficking in jew hatred?? 😝

56

@55

well,
There
thumfpnsorna T.
Wormtongue Goes again:

twisting
turning
distort-
ing like a
Motherfucker

and, Right on
fucking
Cue.

57

and ALWAYS Quick to Claim
that Being Anti-Genocide
makes one 'a Jew HATER'!

58

@50: So, you’re now so desperate to stay in denial, you claim the Wall Street Journal publishes “Israeli propaganda”? Seriously?

(Then again, you once quoted two “From the River to the Sea,” web sites and FOX News, so maybe you’re the one having some trouble here with the distinction between “news,” and “propaganda”?)

59

@58: He thinks everything is Israeli propaganda, you know how those (((Zionists))) are famous for controlling the media! 😂🤣😂🤣

60

@50 because the WSJ has journalistic standards, they also wrote in the same article:

"Hamas has vehemently denied using hospitals in the fight. ... A spokesman for the Hamas-controlled Gaza government said its security forces acted over the weekend to clear the hospital of criminal gangs that had taken it over and looted it after its staff was evacuated. Any security forces that remain at the hospital are there to prevent theft but will eventually hand control to a Palestinian association that used to own the property, the spokesman said. Previously, the hospital had purely been a medical facility, with no Hamas presence, the spokesman said."

And:

"An in-depth investigation is needed to determine the extent to which Hamas has militarized health facilities in Gaza and whether Israel acted proportionally in its attacks, said Sam Zarifi, executive director of Physicians for Human Rights."

But you only included the allegations from the IDF, because if the IDF says it you believe it without question.

61

@60: "Hamas has vehemently denied using hospitals in the fight"

lol, the director of Kamal Adwan Hospital would like a word.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GB4iOE2PY30

62

@60 -- lets' Clear this Up:

thumpfnsorna T. Wormtongue
Works for AIPAC, so OBVIOUSLY they're
Gonna Side With Israel's IOF: Every. Single. Time.

either That, or the
Cheques'll just
quit cummin'

63

Kristofarian: "I don't traffic in antisemitic conspiracy theories, how dare you!"

Kristofarian, two minutes later: "Everyone against me is financed by AIPAC!"

😂😂😂

64

@61 an interrogation video huh? As you'd put it: 😂😂😂

65

@63

is

Being Anti-Genocide
makes one 'a
Jew HATER'!

a 'conspiracy theory'

if it's PRECISELY yours
(the Two of you)
AIPACS and
Israel's

M fucking O?

66

why, That's
a Conspiracy of
Quite the Fucking "few", Eh?

67

taking the Bait
of those who
Hate tiz a
Fool's er-
rand.

Silly Fuck-
ing Me.

68

@60: “But you only included the allegations from the IDF, because if the IDF says it you believe it without question.”

Go back and read harder. The IDF wasn’t the only source of the claim:

“…re-establishing their control over what residents and Israel’s military said had long been a redoubt for the Islamist militants.”

The IDF wasn’t even the first source the article cited; local residents were. (You know, persons whom Hamas could have murdered with impunity, simply for talking to the WSJ.)

“An in-depth investigation is needed to determine the extent to which Hamas has militarized health facilities in Gaza and whether Israel acted proportionally in its attacks, said Sam Zarifi, executive director of Physicians for Human Rights."

Thank you for quoting that part. Glad to see you might not always remain in complete denial on Hamas’ use of human shields.

69

@68: Impossible, there's no Hamas in the hospitals, it must all be lies! The local residents lied! The Hamas detainees lied! The released hostages lied! The foreign doctors lied! The videos of gunfire and rocket launches lied! The captured weapons lied! The Hamas documents lied! The security cameras lied! The tunnels lied! 😂

70

@68 "The IDF wasn’t even the first source the article cited; local residents were"

But the only "resident" named and quoted was a member of the clan who took over the hospital, one of whom shot and killed a member of Hamas outside the hospital, and who other "residents" say were collaborating with Israel. And anyway you only care what Gaza residents have to say when it supports the IDF's assertions which, again, you accept without question.

71

@70: wait what, you want the Wall Street Journal to identify each of its Hamas-criticizing informants in Gaza by name, ha ha ha did you think through that idea for even half a second before you posted 😂😂😂

72

@71: Better yet, he's quoting from the same story wherein the WSJ describes an open-air mass execution by Hamas. Yeah, the refusal of the WSJ to identify Hamas-critical sources in Gaza simply means the WSJ must simply be making the entire thing up. No other explanation has occurred to him.

He must really, really miss his pet war.

73

@72: in every society, in every political movement, in every ideology, and even in every individual, there’s nothing like Jewish affairs to lay bare any iniquities that had previously lain hidden. An infallible method to assess the moral health of a person or a group is to ask them, “Hey, where are you at with the Jews?” If there’s any rot buried beneath the surface, it will immediately rise. 😄 October 7 and the war in Gaza have exposed the progressives like nothing else has since the Berlin Wal! 😁

I always spare some gratitude toward the Jews for their service as society’s diagnosticians, although I’m sure the Jews themselves would just as soon be left out of it! 🤣

74

@71 oh look it's the guy who posted an interrogation video as "evidence" Hamas had infiltrated a hospital 😜

75

@74: Alright, what evidence would you accept that Hamas had used a hospital as a military base? Bear in mind your previous evidentiary standards included multiple "From the River to the Sea," web sites -- and FOX News.

(OK, I admit it: I'm asking just to skim through a long word-salad, one which even an AI can tell me has no coherent meaning.)

76

@74: ah ah ah, not so fast! 😃 I think you meant to write, “posted an interrogation video as one line of evidence among a dozen other, supporting lines of evidence!” 😉 There, that reads better, huh! 😎

I was hoping you might enjoy hearing from the Islamic resistance in their own words…in addition to the combat footage, Hamas documents, photographs, and witness and survivor testimonies, all of which point to the same conclusion regarding Hamas’s military use of hospitals. 😄 There are even a bunch more hospital interrogation videos if you didn’t like that one! 🤣🤣🤣 Anyways, you were saying? 😘

77

@16

No edit or delete
buttons as people should
reap the consequences of the nasty,
cringing, and embarrassing things they publish.

Coolidge dollar on November 19, 2025 at 1:12 PM

[like this?]

The point of the comment, you insanely dumb dildo
is that it is at the very last part of the
sentence.

--@Coolidge dollar on November 16, 2025 at 12:57 PM

People should calm down and think it over before clicking 'Post Comment'. 

Coolidge dollar on November 19, 2025 at 1:12 PM

[Excellent Advice, KkKoolie! 
have you an Example of 'thinking it
over before clicking 'Post Comment'"?]

[oh! -- here's a thoroughly-thought-out comment]:

The point of a comment is
its most important thought
which is usually made in the the
second or the last clause of the sen-
tence to leave the reader with a with the 
most important concept as the last or near 
the last of what you are trying to say to folks.

--@Coolidge dollar on November 16, 2025 at 12:57 PM

[I'm Sorry?
Come again!?]

My God.

Coolidge dollar on November 19, 2025 at 1:12 PM

[My thoughts Exactly.
Excellent Post(s)!

oh
and with
our new Edit
Button there MUST
BE a 'comment History' but-
ton to SHOW the Original comment.

AND a 'Delete Comment' Button!
I bet even KkKoolie'd
Agree.

78

Gaza’s Hunger Games

Israel is weaponizing starvation. The objective is to dismantle all remnants of civil society and reduce Palestinians to herds of desperate scavengers who can be driven from historic Palestine.

Israel’s weaponization of starvation is how genocides always end. I covered the insidious effects of orchestrated starvation in the Guatemalan Highlands during the genocidal campaign of Gen. Efraín Ríos Montt, the famine in southern Sudan that left a quarter of a million dead — I walked past the frail and skeletal corpses of families lining roadsides — and later during the war in Bosnia when Serbs cut off food supplies to enclaves such as Srebrencia and Goražde.

Starvation was weaponized by the Ottoman Empire to decimate the Armenians. It was used to kill millions of Ukrainians in the Holodomor in 1932 and 1933. It was employed by the Nazis against the Jews in the ghettos in World War II.

German soldiers used food, as Israel does, like bait.

They offered three kilograms of bread and one kilogram of marmalade to lure desperate families in the Warsaw Ghetto onto transports to the death camps. “There were times when hundreds of people had to wait in line for several days to be ‘deported,’” Marek Edelman writes in “The Ghetto Fights.”

“The number of people anxious to obtain the three kilograms of bread was such that the transports, now leaving twice daily with 12,000 people, could not accommodate them all.” And when crowds became unruly, as in Gaza, the German troops fired deadly volleys that ripped through emaciated husks of women, children and the elderly.

This tactic is as old as warfare itself.

The report in the Israeli newspaper Haaretz, that Israeli soldiers are ordered to shoot into crowds of Palestinians at aid hubs, with 580 killed and 4,216 wounded, is not a surprise. It is the predictable denouement of the genocide, the inevitable conclusion to a campaign of mass extermination.

Israel, with its targeted assassinations of at least 1,400 health care workers, hundreds of United Nations (U.N.) workers, journalists, police and even poets and academics, its obliteration of multi-story apartment blocks wiping out dozens of families,

its shelling of designated “humanitarian zones” where Palestinians huddle under tents, tarps or in the open air, its systematic targeting of U.N. food distribution centers, bakeries and aid convoys or

its sadistic sniper fire that guns down children, long ago illustrated that Palestinians are regarded as vermin worthy only of annihilation.

The blockade of food and humanitarian aid, imposed on Gaza since March 2, is reducing Palestinians to abject dependence. To eat, they must crawl towards their killers and beg. Humiliated, terrified, desperate for a few scraps of food, they are stripped of dignity, autonomy and agency. This is by intent.

Chris Hedges; 6/29/25

oodkes
https://chrishedges.substack.com/p/gazas-hunger-games

but but but
wormthumpfer
shrieks, "This is from JUNE!"
good eyes! has Israel allowed those
600 or is it 900 food trucks a day EVERY
day thru to Feed Starving Gazans? cuz THAT'S

WHAT IT FUCKING TAKES.

well
thumpfworm
shrieks, but Hamas!
But HAMAS! BUT HAMAS!

justifying
NOTHING

except those
aipac checks?

79

@75

OK, I admit it:
I'm asking just to skim
through a long word-salad,
one which even an AI can tell
me has no coherent meaning.)

--@Wormtongue thumpfnsorna on November 20, 2025 at 7:23 PM Report this

@76

ah ah ah, not so fast! 😃

--thumpfus T Wormtongue on November 20, 2025 at 8:21 PM

Jesus,
wormmy
give a bott
a Break! it's got
Circuits, and shit

80

@16

now
for Instance
Had we an Edit/Delete
Button, I could delete @78,
and have @79 follow my comment
on Your comment (wormmy's comment
to his ai sokbott), which seems to make Sense,
wormmy's comment's contents having to do with

"(a long word-salad,
one which even an AI can tell
me has no coherent meaning.)".

Plus,
I could
reinsert
wormmy's
parenthesis

typically, a pair of round brackets
"(" & " ") used to mark off a
parenthetical word
or phrase

which I did
'cuz I Could
immediately
above, making
the World a Much*
Better Place. Don't you agree?

*Remembering
of Course, to Replace
@78 (re Isreal's Non-stop
War Crimes, one which even
Reich-wing Gov'ts're Tiring of).

so
Do
we Have
Your Vote, too?

81

@16, 80

speaking
of Editing,
and Fixing:

"(. . . a long word-salad,
one which even an AI can tell
me has no coherent meaning.)".

Plus,
I could
reinsert
wormmy's
parenthesis

typically, a pair of round brackets
"(" & ")" used to mark off a
parenthetical word
or phrase

see
what
I'm saying

(this is Nearly
as Painful for me
as it must be for You!)?

82

@81
'arced'
Not 'round'!

I
Rest
my Case.

83

@76 "I was hoping you might enjoy hearing from the Islamic resistance in their own words"

Do you believe Abu Safiya is "Islamic resistance" too or is Israel just holding him for funzies?

84

@83: it depends, is Abu Safiya also a Hamas brigadier general who uses his own hospital as a fighting position, command post, and armory? Cause that was Ahmad Kahalot’s big mistake as director of the Kamal Adwan Hospital! 🤣🤣🤣

85

@84 that's all assuming you believe an interrogation video, when numerous Palestinian doctors held by Israel have alleged they were tortured, which no thinking person should but I'm sure you do. But do you personally believe Abu Safiya is Hamas and if not why won't Israel release him?

86

@85: I don't personally have an opinion as to Abu Safiya's Hamas affiliation.

As for "believing" the Ahmad Kahalot interrogation video, his lengthy and detailed admissions constitute nothing more than a single line of evidence among dozens of other lines of evidence that lead me to conclude, sadly, that Hamas uses the hospitals in Gaza (including Kamal Adwan) for military purposes in violation of the law of armed conflict. 😁 Are you so very confident that they never do? 😉

87

@86 you only don't have an opinion on Abu Safiya because the IDF hasn't told it to you yet.

88

@87: lol, I’m afraid the real answer is not as exciting as that! 😛 I follow the Gaza war more closely than most Americans do, in both English and Arabic media, but even I cannot track the war down to the level of the individual combatant. 😄 That’s a job for a full-fledged intelligence agency, not some guy in Seattle with an iphone! 🤣 I don’t know your Abu Safiya’s military biography, if I did I would tell you! 😃

But to me, it’s a less interesting question whether this Palestinian or that Palestinian is a member of the Islamic resistance. It’s a more interesting question whether the Islamic resistance as a whole is using hospitals and other protected structures in a manner inconsistent with the laws of armed conflict, thereby depriving those structures of their protected status. Sadly, the answer to my more interesting question is: yes they are 😉

89

@76: 'I think you meant to write, “posted an interrogation video as one line of evidence among a dozen other, supporting lines of evidence!”'

And the original basis for believing Hamas would use both civilians and civilian infrastructure in Gaza came from a report written by NATO, which described it as a practice of Hamas during the period 2008 – 2014: https://stratcomcoe.org/cuploads/pfiles/hamas_human_shields.pdf (Despite 1312's claim of our getting information from the IDF, Israel is not a member of NATO -- but Türkiye, a longstanding supporter of Hamas, is. Türkiye has been a member of NATO for almost all of NATO's existence.)

1312 became so upset by my repeated citations from this report, he finally started claiming it was written not by NATO, but by a "PR firm," and that it lacked factual basis (dozens of footnotes not doing the trick for 1312, apparently).

Watching our dead-ender friends cling to their fictional beliefs about their favorite war provides great amusement, but mostly in the most sad and pathetic way possible. Now that their favorite war has died, perhaps they can mourn it, and move on. Their continued bitter denials can only postpone their healing.

90

@89: ha ha ha oh god I had forgotten that whole multiday lecture series about the differences between an international military organization and a PR firm! 😂 That was classic slog! 😆

Nothing much has changed, unfortunately. you can see him above in this very thread getting confused about the differences between a government, an intergovernmental organization, and a non-governmental organization! 🤣

91

@90: I still don't know why 1312 keeps suiting up for this humiliation. But as the kids once said, I'll take the lulz. ;-)

92

@91: the israeli flag has a star of david on it 🤣

93

taking down
tS joyfully
as fuck
😆😂😆
??????

'they' say it's ALL
news -- til ya
Read it

"Russia used a network of 150,000 Twitter accounts to meddle in Brexit"

https://www.businessinsider.com/russia-used-twitter-accounts-to-meddle-in-brexit-investigation-shows-2017-11

tS Has no meddlers
nor influence peddlers
either foreign Or domestic

take
That to
The Bank.

94

Yep.
when the
Wormtongue
Declares the Peace
Plan is Working, who
are We to question wormmy,
Israel OR the Israeli Offensive Force?

"Watching our dead-ender friends cling to their fictional beliefs about their favorite war provides great amusement, but mostly in the most sad and pathetic way possible. Now that their favorite war has died, perhaps they can mourn it, and move on. Their continued bitter denials can only postpone their healing." --@the Wormtongue, above

2 million
Gazans struggle to
survive in a 3.5 sq. mi.
cage – Not a Ceasefire Day 43

(While a “ceasefire” is ostensibly in place, Israel has continued its assault on Gaza without interruption. If Americans Knew considers the war to be ongoing, and in its 774th day.)

Since the “ceasefire” began on October 11,
Israel has killed at least 318 Palestinians.

Among them are at least 67 children.

Death toll figures are tentative.

Israel has
so far violated
the 11 October ceasefire
deal in Gaza at least 393 times.

https://israelpalestinenews.org/2-million-gazans-struggle-to-survive-in-a-3-5-sq-mi-cage-not-a-ceasefire-day-43/

it's
OVER
take it From
The Wormtongue!

95

@92: Well, yeah, but when 1312 looks at a long comment thread and sees only kristo’ agreeing with him, shouldn’t that tell him something important about the hill he’s chosen to die on? ;-)

96

@95

not to
Mention
AIPAC/IOF Reps
filling Their Coffer$

And,
BONUS!

shitting on/shutting
Down one of the Last
Vestiges of Progressive
Conversation in trumpftopia!

They, Rule
😉😉😉😉😉

you, Drool!
😄 😄 😄 😄 😄

and Besides!

it Ain't Even ACTUAL
GENOCIDE! so fucking
😄 😄 😄 CHILLAX and 😉😉😉
😉😉😉 Chust fucking ENJOY IT! 😄

but Hamas!
but Hamas! but Hamas!
but Hamas! but Hamas! but Hamas!
but Hamas! but Hamas!
but Hamas!

poor, Poor POOR
Israel! its Bloody
HANDS're TIED!

(plus bibi's
Gotta Keep
tF outta Jail)

97

@95: “…a long comment thread…”

Please, let us all note the irony of a long comment thread where the very first comment states a desire to eliminate all comments! ;-) As always here in the comments, the Stranger and supportive commenters get beaten at their own game!

Maybe the Stranger will indeed invoke the almighty Take My Ball And Go Home Rule?

98

@96: “not to Mention AIPAC/IOF Reps filling Their Coffer$”

An international conspiracy to fill their coffers! ha ha ha! “Antizionism” has never been anything but antisemitism 😂😂😂

99

@97

a most
excellent Point,
Wormtonguecressonathumpfnsorna!

glad y'ALL
made it!

99

@98

yeah,
Right,
thumpnsnorna
T. Wormtongue!

And,
being
Anti-Genocide
EQUALS Anti-Semitism!

just
Like
Israel/AIPAC's
Been SAYING, ever
Since 10/7/2023. your
Propaganda is Still Working!

just Not on those 18-35!

tho it's STILL
hurting Jews
Planet-fucking
Wide! Keep it Up!

(so
WHO is
the Jew-Hater?)

100

@99: “so WHO is the Jew-Hater”

ha ha that would be you, the guy posting every day about international jewish financial conspiracies 🤣😂🤣😂


    Please wait...

    Comments are closed.

    Commenting on this item is available only to members of the site. You can sign in here or create an account here.


    Add a comment
    Preview

    By posting this comment, you are agreeing to our Terms of Use.