As our beloved symbols and institutions fall, we have the comfort of knowing that the Golden Arches remain a stalwart bastion of all the things that really matter. Have a McRib™ day!
@2, If you read the underlying story, the damn owner installed the pumps (at State insistence), and is pumping the water over the damn to keep the reservoir from topping and destroying the damn, dam.
One of the two damns poses no risk to life and minimal risk to property.
Vanity Fair, predictably, takes liberties with interviewees, leaves out context, and is all around a horrible rag:
"The article published early this morning is a disingenuously framed hit piece on me and the finest President, White House staff, and Cabinet in history.
Significant context was disregarded and much of what I, and others, said about the team and the President was left out of the story. I assume, after reading it, that this was done to paint an overwhelmingly chaotic and negative narrative about the President and our team.
The truth is the Trump White House has already accomplished more in eleven months than any other President has accomplished in eight years and that is due to the unmatched leadership and vision of President Trump, for whom I have been honored to work for the better part of a decade.
None of this will stop our relentless pursuit of Making America Great Again."
I like how she doesn’t deny anything or offer a rebuttal beyond the typical trump admin claptrap about his alleged success at everything he does. I don’t think anyone needed the inside scoop to know trump is targeting his enemies with poorly conceived cases that collapse under legal scrutiny but i guess we’re finding out some of these people know what they’re doing is wrong. Nothing else in this list of revelations is any more shocking, just confirming things that have been public knowledge for months if not years. Elon musk is a drug addict?! Say it ain’t so.
Great work carrying water for the administration you claim to despise btw. You’re so good at this.
You just reposted a non-denial denial by a person in the trump administration when the alleged revelations of these interviews have been public knowledge for ages. If you think the administration is bad why do you think it’s bad to publish a story about how bad it is? Please
I understand why people choose to concern troll instead of just owning their beliefs but i don’t understand how you expect people to take you seriously when you’re this bad at hiding it.
What the fuck are you talking about. You understand that supplying proof is the responsibility of the interviewee claiming they were misquoted right? I guess you don’t.
She agreed to multiple interviews on the record. If VF is lying or taking her out of context they can sue VF for defamation like this administration has done multiple times now. VF would be taking a huge risk by lying in print, but she can deny the accuracy of the article in a tweet without any legal risk at all. It’s very revealing which side you’re taking here given what’s at stake for either side, but then so is everything else you say. You’re not nearly as clever as you think, feebs.
@6, "...the Trump White House has already accomplished more in eleven months than any other President has accomplished in eight years..."
Thank God!! Now if you'll excuse me, I have 6 bankers on the line. I'm negotiating the interest rate on a loan to buy a dozen eggs.
@10 It was Wiles' claim that the Vanity Fair piece lacked context. It's up to her to provide the missing context if she disagrees with the reporting. It's not up to us to imagine what Wiles might be thinking.
@15, Yes of course. In the meantime just trust the administration official that VF is risking their entire existence to put into print a bunch of unflattering things about the trump admin that have been in the public domain for so long they’re not even interesting anymore. Right?
@12: I'm not defending Trump. I'm questioning the MSM. Can't you tell the difference?
@17: Just be patient until we hear more from Susie Wiles. Please show a little respect.
@17 No doubt, she'll release that information at the same time they release their Infrastructure Week plans, their Obamacare replacement plan, and all of the information they claimed they had saying that the 2020 election was rigged. Because they have all that right? I mean, they said they did and we have no reason to doubt them. Just be patient!
Being “anti-msm” in a dispute between trump and an “msm” outlet is pro-trump by default. Your lacking the integrity to admit which side you’re taking doesn’t change anything. I don’t owe any of these vile people respect and neither do you but that’s certainly a choice one could make if they were so inclined.
I can remember a time when The Stranger, prior to Noisy Creek, would have been criticizing this no end. I.e. They didn't send a social worker, the cops used a gun against a guy with a knife, why didn't they use fancy movie marshal arts moves to disarm the guy of his knife.
The Stranger has lost its prior principles, and its readers and commenters appear to be O.K. with that.
@21: What are the sides you're referring to? I'm for accuracy in media, you're the one jumping to whatever partisan or otherwise political pro or anti MAGA or whatever, I'm not referring to any of that.
24, the side where you are taking at face value a statement with no evidence to back it up, vs the side who would be risking their entire future to print these alleged lies. It’s the same side you are commanding people to respect even as you flagrantly disrespect the other side by insisting they’re lying with no evidence to support it.
Why does the trump admin deserve the benefit of the doubt when they lie shamelessly about everything, but not a media outlet renowned for its rigorous fact checking and who stands to lose everything by lying? You can’t have it both ways and your actions and your biases confess everything you lack the courage to admit.
You can’t help but be yourself and you’re not going to change any time soon but i’m just letting you know you’re not fooling anyone, feebs.
@24: Nothing you said has any relevance to the VF article or Susie Wiles. VF is a shitty publication, always has been, and needn't fear defamation as they operate with the same legal powerhouses as the National Enquirer. You're unhinged on a weird tangential direction that is unworthy of further arguing.
To spare the rest of the Sloggers here further annoyance from our bickering, I won't reply to your reply, so fire away. Give it all you got. I'll have my popcorn ready.
I’ve already said i don’t expect you to admit you’re a trumper even though your actions betray you, but VF is known for its journalistic standards. You don’t have to like them to accept they do their due diligence, even when they say mean things about dear leader.
@28 I think the Stranger simply recognizes that most of its readers have moved on from that episode (regardless of how they may have felt about it at the time) to more pressing concerns and that the ST is much better equipped to report any significant developments that continue to stem from it. There's no reason for the Stranger to devote its comparatively meager resources to duplicating their coverage. That just isn't what alt media is for. (Now, if the ST weren't doing this reporting, I'd agree that the Stranger would indeed have that responsibility.) And reproducing an article in its entirety, as you appear to have done here, rather than quoting it selectively is very likely a copyright violation. At the very least it's a serious abuse of the commenting privilege.
Just one small comment on the Cal vs. Karl smackdown: It's worth noting that Chris Whipple is a serious, longtime student of White House chiefs of staff (a niche specialty if ever there were one). I would expect him to be the first to object publicly if Vanity Fair's editors mishandled his bylined work. If Wiles has any such objections she has an ethical obligation to state them clearly rather than cast vague aspersions on Whipple's or the magazine's reputation. Whipple and VF have no burden of defense if she doesn't do so. I'm not holding my breath waiting, as that kind of principled discourse just isn't the Trumpian way. In all likelihood, she's performing like a trained seal for an audience of one.
Seriously, they should've banned him a month ago as he contributes absolutely nothing to any sort of meaningful discourse, and the copy/pasting of full length articles is absolutely and objectively a clear violation of the TOS agreement.
Obviously he's a loser with nothing better to do with his time and so would/will immediately create a new profile if and when he gets banned, though that doesn't mean it isn't the right thing to do. I'd wager it's probably more of a pain in the ass for a reader to create & register a new email account, then register a new slog profile from that email to comment here than it is for an admin to simply nuke a commenter's account. Though you'd then also have to also factor in that knife's obviously got nothing better to do with his time than create new and endless streams of burner email accounts, and the site admin's surely have more rich and fulfilling lives with friends and outside interests & hobbies that occupy their time.
NotMyopic has had something like 40 or 50 different profiles here over the years, and I've asked him a couple times if the expenditure of time & effort performing all of the mundane tasks necessary to repeatedly create new throwaway email accounts is truly justifiable given whatever he's apparently getting out of it, though he's never responded. I guess the obvious answer is yes, given that he continues to do it, but it honestly just strikes me as genuinely odd and inexplicable behavior. Really wish he or knife would weigh in, though I'd guess they won't as the obvious explanation is that they're just fucking losers with nothing better to do with their time than read and contribute content to a website they hate.
Folks from the White House thought they could outsmart Vanity Fair, somehow proved utterly unequal to that task, got humiliated, and now try to CYA after their self-owning humiliation. WH Fanbois like C. Dollar get all butthurt and whine bitterly about the MSM, 'cause that's real original and everything. MOAR POPCORN PLS.
Meanwhile, the CHOP disaster of five-plus years ago (!) continues to dump fallout on Seattle, and the Stranger -- CHOP's #1 cheerleader back then -- bitterly refuses to admit it. So the Stranger's fanbois here whine about how mean it is to point out how the Stranger's past mistakes remain relevant today, even as the Stranger gears up to encourage yet more mistakes from incoming newbies in city government. (And, "FTW," as the superannuated kids say, kristo' wails about how someone let an actual fact in here, thus directly threatening total destruction of his myriad interlocking paranoid belief systems.)
I love a well-themed Slog comment page! Thanks, everyone!
@26: At this point you really should have corrective surgery, KKKoolie dear. Your pea brain, pointed head, and your ass will thank you.
Deep breath, beer gut in, sweetie. You can do it.
@42 & @43: Putty knife dear, why are you wasting time here, then?
Seriously, how old are you---14, and just parroting everything your angry MAGA dad spews?
Run along, go eat your kerfuffle paste, catch up on your FOX binge watching,
and leave the conversation to us adults in the room.
@48: What's juvenile is that you insult anyone you please without first debating the topic first, totally out of the blue, as if your commentary is above anyone else's. You have no grace, decorum, sense of decency, and are unfit for polite society.
But, you can be amusing with your childish and naive cartoonish ways. God bless you dear.
Yeah, for taking the side of the White House employee who foolishly thought she could take on an actual journalistic enterprise and win. She lost, and badly, so she stupidly lied about the news outlet. Then you denigrated said magazine with all of the independent thought expected from one of Pavlov's tortured animals. (Barth already cited the evidence showing you were wrong.)
@50: Talk is cheap, KKKoolie dear, especially when your head is so far up your butt. Stop blindly cheering on a dillusional convicted felon currently squatting in the White Trash House and you might be taken more seriously.
As our beloved symbols and institutions fall, we have the comfort of knowing that the Golden Arches remain a stalwart bastion of all the things that really matter. Have a McRib™ day!
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was clogged with debris, so
the state installed pumps to prevent spillage."
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@2, If you read the underlying story, the damn owner installed the pumps (at State insistence), and is pumping the water over the damn to keep the reservoir from topping and destroying the damn, dam.
One of the two damns poses no risk to life and minimal risk to property.
The social science, both anti-gun control and pro-gun control is deeply flawed and inconclusive.
https://reason.com/2016/01/05/you-know-less-than-you-think-a/
@2~Pumping
over, not Spilling
over, avoids the warshout
well, Duh.
fucking Genius.
Vanity Fair, predictably, takes liberties with interviewees, leaves out context, and is all around a horrible rag:
"The article published early this morning is a disingenuously framed hit piece on me and the finest President, White House staff, and Cabinet in history.
Significant context was disregarded and much of what I, and others, said about the team and the President was left out of the story. I assume, after reading it, that this was done to paint an overwhelmingly chaotic and negative narrative about the President and our team.
The truth is the Trump White House has already accomplished more in eleven months than any other President has accomplished in eight years and that is due to the unmatched leadership and vision of President Trump, for whom I have been honored to work for the better part of a decade.
None of this will stop our relentless pursuit of Making America Great Again."
https://x.com/SusieWiles/status/2000943061627548148?s=20
I like how she doesn’t deny anything or offer a rebuttal beyond the typical trump admin claptrap about his alleged success at everything he does. I don’t think anyone needed the inside scoop to know trump is targeting his enemies with poorly conceived cases that collapse under legal scrutiny but i guess we’re finding out some of these people know what they’re doing is wrong. Nothing else in this list of revelations is any more shocking, just confirming things that have been public knowledge for months if not years. Elon musk is a drug addict?! Say it ain’t so.
Great work carrying water for the administration you claim to despise btw. You’re so good at this.
@7: I'm doing nothing of the sort. Vanity Fair is a shitty publication. The administration is a shitty administration. Both are true.
You just reposted a non-denial denial by a person in the trump administration when the alleged revelations of these interviews have been public knowledge for ages. If you think the administration is bad why do you think it’s bad to publish a story about how bad it is? Please
I understand why people choose to concern troll instead of just owning their beliefs but i don’t understand how you expect people to take you seriously when you’re this bad at hiding it.
@9: Well then, you little pipsqueak know-it-all, provide the context that Vanity Fair omitted that you say wouldn't have made a difference.
What the fuck are you talking about. You understand that supplying proof is the responsibility of the interviewee claiming they were misquoted right? I guess you don’t.
She agreed to multiple interviews on the record. If VF is lying or taking her out of context they can sue VF for defamation like this administration has done multiple times now. VF would be taking a huge risk by lying in print, but she can deny the accuracy of the article in a tweet without any legal risk at all. It’s very revealing which side you’re taking here given what’s at stake for either side, but then so is everything else you say. You’re not nearly as clever as you think, feebs.
Coolidge dear, there’s no need to defend trump, even if you identify with his personal traits.
He. Doesn’t. Care. About. You.
@6, "...the Trump White House has already accomplished more in eleven months than any other President has accomplished in eight years..."
Thank God!! Now if you'll excuse me, I have 6 bankers on the line. I'm negotiating the interest rate on a loan to buy a dozen eggs.
@10 It was Wiles' claim that the Vanity Fair piece lacked context. It's up to her to provide the missing context if she disagrees with the reporting. It's not up to us to imagine what Wiles might be thinking.
@14: Have a little patience. These things always come out.
@15,
Indeed. Amidst accusations that he's an idiotic buffoon, DT clarified that he is in fact a stable genius. So that's obviously settled.
@15, Yes of course. In the meantime just trust the administration official that VF is risking their entire existence to put into print a bunch of unflattering things about the trump admin that have been in the public domain for so long they’re not even interesting anymore. Right?
@12: I'm not defending Trump. I'm questioning the MSM. Can't you tell the difference?
@17: Just be patient until we hear more from Susie Wiles. Please show a little respect.
@14: An X comment is not the venue for that level of detail, she just needed to get the word out that she has issues with the article.
@17 No doubt, she'll release that information at the same time they release their Infrastructure Week plans, their Obamacare replacement plan, and all of the information they claimed they had saying that the 2020 election was rigged. Because they have all that right? I mean, they said they did and we have no reason to doubt them. Just be patient!
Being “anti-msm” in a dispute between trump and an “msm” outlet is pro-trump by default. Your lacking the integrity to admit which side you’re taking doesn’t change anything. I don’t owe any of these vile people respect and neither do you but that’s certainly a choice one could make if they were so inclined.
https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/law-justice/man-shot-by-bellevue-police-officer-lured-cops-with-bogus-911-call-prosecutors-say/
I can remember a time when The Stranger, prior to Noisy Creek, would have been criticizing this no end. I.e. They didn't send a social worker, the cops used a gun against a guy with a knife, why didn't they use fancy movie marshal arts moves to disarm the guy of his knife.
The Stranger has lost its prior principles, and its readers and commenters appear to be O.K. with that.
@21: What are the sides you're referring to? I'm for accuracy in media, you're the one jumping to whatever partisan or otherwise political pro or anti MAGA or whatever, I'm not referring to any of that.
24, the side where you are taking at face value a statement with no evidence to back it up, vs the side who would be risking their entire future to print these alleged lies. It’s the same side you are commanding people to respect even as you flagrantly disrespect the other side by insisting they’re lying with no evidence to support it.
Why does the trump admin deserve the benefit of the doubt when they lie shamelessly about everything, but not a media outlet renowned for its rigorous fact checking and who stands to lose everything by lying? You can’t have it both ways and your actions and your biases confess everything you lack the courage to admit.
You can’t help but be yourself and you’re not going to change any time soon but i’m just letting you know you’re not fooling anyone, feebs.
@24: Nothing you said has any relevance to the VF article or Susie Wiles. VF is a shitty publication, always has been, and needn't fear defamation as they operate with the same legal powerhouses as the National Enquirer. You're unhinged on a weird tangential direction that is unworthy of further arguing.
To spare the rest of the Sloggers here further annoyance from our bickering, I won't reply to your reply, so fire away. Give it all you got. I'll have my popcorn ready.
I’ve already said i don’t expect you to admit you’re a trumper even though your actions betray you, but VF is known for its journalistic standards. You don’t have to like them to accept they do their due diligence, even when they say mean things about dear leader.
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/vanity-fair/
@28 I think the Stranger simply recognizes that most of its readers have moved on from that episode (regardless of how they may have felt about it at the time) to more pressing concerns and that the ST is much better equipped to report any significant developments that continue to stem from it. There's no reason for the Stranger to devote its comparatively meager resources to duplicating their coverage. That just isn't what alt media is for. (Now, if the ST weren't doing this reporting, I'd agree that the Stranger would indeed have that responsibility.) And reproducing an article in its entirety, as you appear to have done here, rather than quoting it selectively is very likely a copyright violation. At the very least it's a serious abuse of the commenting privilege.
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Vanity Fair snarky photos:
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/JMK77ACPbDE
Just one small comment on the Cal vs. Karl smackdown: It's worth noting that Chris Whipple is a serious, longtime student of White House chiefs of staff (a niche specialty if ever there were one). I would expect him to be the first to object publicly if Vanity Fair's editors mishandled his bylined work. If Wiles has any such objections she has an ethical obligation to state them clearly rather than cast vague aspersions on Whipple's or the magazine's reputation. Whipple and VF have no burden of defense if she doesn't do so. I'm not holding my breath waiting, as that kind of principled discourse just isn't the Trumpian way. In all likelihood, she's performing like a trained seal for an audience of one.
@31,
Seriously, they should've banned him a month ago as he contributes absolutely nothing to any sort of meaningful discourse, and the copy/pasting of full length articles is absolutely and objectively a clear violation of the TOS agreement.
Obviously he's a loser with nothing better to do with his time and so would/will immediately create a new profile if and when he gets banned, though that doesn't mean it isn't the right thing to do. I'd wager it's probably more of a pain in the ass for a reader to create & register a new email account, then register a new slog profile from that email to comment here than it is for an admin to simply nuke a commenter's account. Though you'd then also have to also factor in that knife's obviously got nothing better to do with his time than create new and endless streams of burner email accounts, and the site admin's surely have more rich and fulfilling lives with friends and outside interests & hobbies that occupy their time.
NotMyopic has had something like 40 or 50 different profiles here over the years, and I've asked him a couple times if the expenditure of time & effort performing all of the mundane tasks necessary to repeatedly create new throwaway email accounts is truly justifiable given whatever he's apparently getting out of it, though he's never responded. I guess the obvious answer is yes, given that he continues to do it, but it honestly just strikes me as genuinely odd and inexplicable behavior. Really wish he or knife would weigh in, though I'd guess they won't as the obvious explanation is that they're just fucking losers with nothing better to do with their time than read and contribute content to a website they hate.
So it goes.
Folks from the White House thought they could outsmart Vanity Fair, somehow proved utterly unequal to that task, got humiliated, and now try to CYA after their self-owning humiliation. WH Fanbois like C. Dollar get all butthurt and whine bitterly about the MSM, 'cause that's real original and everything. MOAR POPCORN PLS.
Meanwhile, the CHOP disaster of five-plus years ago (!) continues to dump fallout on Seattle, and the Stranger -- CHOP's #1 cheerleader back then -- bitterly refuses to admit it. So the Stranger's fanbois here whine about how mean it is to point out how the Stranger's past mistakes remain relevant today, even as the Stranger gears up to encourage yet more mistakes from incoming newbies in city government. (And, "FTW," as the superannuated kids say, kristo' wails about how someone let an actual fact in here, thus directly threatening total destruction of his myriad interlocking paranoid belief systems.)
I love a well-themed Slog comment page! Thanks, everyone!
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@37: Oh really? Butt hurt for hearing out a grievance? Explain yourself, that is if you have the intellect to do so.
@26: At this point you really should have corrective surgery, KKKoolie dear. Your pea brain, pointed head, and your ass will thank you.
Deep breath, beer gut in, sweetie. You can do it.
@42 & @43: Putty knife dear, why are you wasting time here, then?
Seriously, how old are you---14, and just parroting everything your angry MAGA dad spews?
Run along, go eat your kerfuffle paste, catch up on your FOX binge watching,
and leave the conversation to us adults in the room.
@44: Shut up WINDY.
@45: Shut up WINDY.
@46 & @47: Get a life and a clue, the idiotic juvenile both of you.
@48: What's juvenile is that you insult anyone you please without first debating the topic first, totally out of the blue, as if your commentary is above anyone else's. You have no grace, decorum, sense of decency, and are unfit for polite society.
But, you can be amusing with your childish and naive cartoonish ways. God bless you dear.
@41: "Butt hurt for hearing out a grievance?"
Yeah, for taking the side of the White House employee who foolishly thought she could take on an actual journalistic enterprise and win. She lost, and badly, so she stupidly lied about the news outlet. Then you denigrated said magazine with all of the independent thought expected from one of Pavlov's tortured animals. (Barth already cited the evidence showing you were wrong.)
@51: You have to admit at least that extreme facial close ups of skin pores was pure partisan hackery. You're not thinking this through.
@52: What barth already told you, @25. (Also, complaints about photographs are your best evidence, really?)
@50: Talk is cheap, KKKoolie dear, especially when your head is so far up your butt. Stop blindly cheering on a dillusional convicted felon currently squatting in the White Trash House and you might be taken more seriously.