Hillary vs. Donald

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I'd like to see her develop a mocking imitation of him to deploy during the debates. it's not hard.
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I'm so glad the the GOP is in no way prepared to run against Hillary Clinton. I mean her run for the White House was completely unexpected and will take the Republicans by surprise. *whew*
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That's good you're confident Hillary can beat Donald.

I'm gonna be over here, voting Green and eating popcorn as half the country tears itself apart for entertainment while the rest of the populace either doesn't vote or gives the other candidate their anti-vote (I'm voting Hillary because I hate her less than Trump, I'm voting Trump because I hate Hillary). It will be disturbingly entertaining.

Fuck this country.
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@3 Voting for anti-vaxxers and healing crystals and other anti-science bullshit? Greens deny as much science as the Republicans do.
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@4 No, no. Trump is your enemy. Green has no possible way of winning. Any energy wasted on attacking the Green Party is energy not attacking The Enemy!

*munches popcorn*
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I'm not so confident that Hillary can beat Trump. From the beginning everyone thought Trump was a joke; kind of an anomaly that no one took seriously, but surprise surprise, he's managed to stay on top so far. I think the reason for his success is that he totally abandoned political correctness while all the other candidate clung to PC. I think that PC turns off most people; I think that Trump knows this too and used used that turn off to his advantage. Saying that men who dislike Hillary are misogynists is a total cop out and will only feed the fire in support of Trump. Most people are fed up with politics as usual and Trump will be their way to express that feeling. Is Trump a liar? No more so than the rest of them but I think that after the nomination Trump will be a lot more forthcoming as to his real beliefs.
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Never underestimate the stupidity of the American electorate.

The thing that Trump has seriously working against him is that presidential elections have a tendency to see significant turn out from people other than old white bigots.

I'll stick with my prediction that he loses 40 states, and the Dems take the Senate.
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she can beat him easy if she makes him into a joke. which he already is.

BRING UP THE HAIR.
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@6
Trump lies a lot more than many other politicians. Compare:
http://www.politifact.com/personalities/…
http://www.politifact.com/personalities/…
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He'd have her in ashes before noon. Without prevarication, he could show why Conservatives cannot trust her--and neither can Liberals! Bernie would give Trump more trouble. Why is the SLOG so assuming? Bernie has won 18 states. This thing ain't over.
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@6, Complaining about "PC" is a slightly less offensive - you might even say more PC - way of lamenting that people are no longer able to be openly racist / misogynist / homophobic without being criticized for it. Taking a stance against "PC" has been successful for Trump in the GOP primaries because a large share of Republican voters are bigots who are sick of being called out for it, but the general electorate are a much different population than GOP primary voters. Trump's bigotry will not be an asset for him anymore.
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I could really do without election coverage that includes the phrase "boy oh boy, just you wait."
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@11: it will be on June 7th when CA votes, but the trend is clear now.

she has 2205, he has 1401. you need 2383 to win. she needs 178, he needs 982. 1159 remain. so, he needs 84% of the remaining delegates.
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It's great that Hillary stole the money that was intended for down-ticket Democrat candidates. That way, she can waste it by trying to be president and helping the R's maintain the senate and congress.
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The National Popular Vote bill is 61% of the way to guaranteeing the presidency to the candidate who receives the most popular votes in the country.

Presidential elections don't have to continue to be about a narrowly focused barrage of attention by the media, candidates, pollsters, strategists, organizers, and ads in the handful of unrepresentative swing states that dominate and determine the general election, while most of the country is politically irrelevant.

Every vote, everywhere, would be politically relevant and equal in every presidential election. No more distorting and divisive red and blue state maps of pre-determined outcomes. There would no longer be a handful of 'battleground' states (where the two major political parties happen to have similar levels of support among voters) where voters and policies are more important than those of the voters in 38+ predictable states that have just been 'spectators' and ignored after the conventions.

The National Popular Vote bill would take effect when enacted by states with a majority of the electoral votes—270 of 538.
All of the presidential electors from the enacting states will be supporters of the presidential candidate receiving the most popular votes in all 50 states (and DC)—thereby guaranteeing that candidate with an Electoral College majority.

The bill has passed 34 state legislative chambers in 23 rural, small, medium, large, red, blue, and purple states with 261 electoral votes. The bill has been enacted by 11 small, medium, and large jurisdictions with 165 electoral votes – 61% of the 270 necessary to go into effect.

http://www.NationalPopularVote.com
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@15:

Last quarter alone, Clinton raised over $15mm for down ticket Democratic races. Please, tell us again how much Sanders has raised for those same down-ticket candidates? Go ahead, we'll wait.

*crickets*
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National polls don't matter. All that matters is the Electoral College. And Clinton has a yuuge advantage there.

Start with the solidly blue states, which have voted Dem in the last six elections: CA, CT, DE, DC, HI, IL, ME, MD, MA, MI, MN, NJ, NY, OR, PA, RI, VT, WA, WI. In other words, states with a lot of Dems and independents. Those voters hate Trump: he's at -70 and -27 favorability, respectively. So Trump isn't going to flip any blue states. Total electoral votes: 242.

Total needed to win the presidency: 271. Clinton just needs to find 29 electoral votes among the states that aren't solidly in her corner. We can presume she won't flip any of the red states: AL, AK, ID, KS, MS, NE, ND, OK, SC, SD, TX, UT, or WY. But that's only 102 electoral votes. That leaves 191 "contestable" electoral votes, and Clinton just needs to win 15% of them. By the same token, Trump needs to win 85% of the contestable states. So there are many, many more ways Clinton can win than Trump.

For instance, if Clinton takes FL (split 50/50 over last six elections): she wins. If she takes IA, NH, NM (who went blue 5/6 times) and Ohio (blue 4/6 times): she wins. If she takes IA, NH, NM, plus NV (4 out of 6) and CO (3 out of 6): she wins. And so on. Trump basically has to run the table on Clinton-- including states that *usually* go blue-- to win. A less hated man could do it. But Trump is wildly hated outside the GOP and even hated by some within his own party. Not gonna happen.
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The best shot here is not that Hillary is less worse than Trump's so she turns off fewer Ds than he does Rs, the best shot is that Trump is sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo bad that people who never vote come out and vote against him. Heck if that happens Bernie could win as a write-in.
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@17- You're trying to refute the idea that Hillary has been keeping the money she raised in the name of downticket Democrats by bringing up how much money she raised in the name of downticket Democrats?

But that doesn't even matter that much. More and more money has been getting dumped into politics and fewer and fewer people show up to vote. You need money to play, but the way the money is spent is just making people stay home more and more. A candidate who inspires independents is going to bring more people to the polls than trainloads of dollars will, and right now the GOP has the candidate who inspires (the meat head) independents.
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@20, citations needed
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If Obama can ignore the nut who is claiming he worked as a gay prostitute to finance a drug habit (ya know, in between his classes and duties as President of Harvard Law Review), then Hilary can just laugh her head off at whatever Trump can come up with. He might be a sociopath, but at least his brain hasn't rotted from years of imagining he can hear the man in the sky.
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Total electoral votes needed to win the presidency: 270, not 271.