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We've become the people we fought against in WWII. I wonder how long our reign will last.
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Horrifying secrets? No. Treason and putting others at risk.
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@1 *massive eyeroll*
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As if solitary confinement doesn't exacerbate the sorts of mental/emotional issues that lead to suicide attempts. They do, of course, and the military knows that quite well. They want to destroy him psychologically, and the isocubes will do exactly that.

@2 - So, revealing that the US mows down journalists and children with attack helicopters is now treason? Interesting. I'll make a note of it.
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All cover-ups are tragic accidents.
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@3 If you think indefinite solitary confinement is an acceptable form of punishment then that proves my point.
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@4: Of course, please feel free to cherry pick the data out of the ramifications of Manning's crimes that suits your minority point of view and narrative.
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I think his whole "Chelsea" act is shady. I think he's trying to pull a "Klinger in a dress" act so they'll send him home if he acts nutty enough. The sentence seems excessive but actions have consequences.
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@7 indefinite solitary confinement is exactly the same as the shoah and the death camps, eh?

You forgot the first rule of holes; when you find yourself in one, stop digging. I said nothing about the acceptability of Manning's treatment and it is anyway utterly irrelevant to your silly claim that we have become like the Third Reich. There is no comparison in any form between how Manning is being treated and the Nazi regime. It foolishness and you deserved that eye roll.
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@9:
Well not if you're a police officer...
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He/She/They signed an oath and broke the Military Code of Conduct. There is no "Good Intentions" stipulation in your oath of enlistment. Manning broke that oath and is paying for it, and I won't shed a single tear. I will say this: He/She/They could be doing much, much harder time then he/she/they are. Military prisons - especially Leavenworth - are no joke, and solitary seems pretty nice compared to back breaking labor.

Also, I'll add this. I did tours in both Iraq and Afghanistan. You think what Manning released was bad? That was a drop in the fucking bucket. I've seen shit that would break your mind - atrocities committed by Iraqi Army, Afghani Army, Afghani Police (both kinds), Insurgents, and yes - even a few US/Coalition.

General Sherman said it best: War is Cruelty, and you cannot refine it.
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Frankly, I believe that Chelsea was played as a pawn. I think that she was recognized as being emotionally vulnerable and then used by Wikileaks as a source of information. For her it is really a shame; she was played for a chump.
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It seems like a lot of people on this thread have selective amnesia. Manning was kept in horrible conditions and tortured. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2012/m…

So someone who got tortured and likely suffers from PTSD attempts suicide and the idea is to punish her more?
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@12 atrocities by US soldiers violate the Military Code of Conduct too. Do you see an issue here?

The behavior you walk by with a "shit happens" attitude is the behavior you accept.
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#8, feel free to embrace the fallacy that the popularity of an opinion is directly related to it's veracity.
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You could swap out Manning's name with any of thousands of prisoners , she's not unique in that regard. I'm not even really upset about her being in prison - Manning understood the consequences of [quick tact question: should I refer to Bradley Manning's actions as male-gendered, or retroactively adjust?] his actions at the time. 35 years is harsh, but America in the 21st century is basically the only place and time in world history where the punishment would not be execution.

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