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@1 Have you tried cyanide?

No. Obviously. But, you know, think it over.
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yup. his "genius" is to understand the flaw in the media: it can't turn away from a car wreck. he keeps giving them car wrecks, so many they're dizzy, and don't have time to report on why the previous wreck happened. he's our Berlusconi.

facts are dead.
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And not very bright.

Hillary was the original birther; it has been extensively reported.
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FactCheck.org

Both of those stories comport with what we here at FactCheck.org wrote two-and-a-half years earlier, on Nov. 8, 2008: “This claim was first advanced by diehard Hillary Clinton supporters as her campaign for the party’s nomination faded, and has enjoyed a revival among John McCain’s partisans as he fell substantially behind Obama in public opinion polls.”
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The second article, which ran several days after the Politico piece, was published by the Telegraph, a British paper, which stated: “An anonymous email circulated by supporters of Mrs Clinton, Mr Obama’s main rival for the party’s nomination, thrust a new allegation into the national spotlight — that he had not been born in Hawaii.”
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Politico, April 22, 2011: The answer lies in Democratic, not Republican politics, and in the bitter, exhausting spring of 2008. At the time, the Democratic presidential primary was slipping away from Hillary Clinton and some of her most passionate supporters grasped for something, anything that would deal a final reversal to Barack Obama.
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Politico:

Then, as Obama marched toward the presidency, a new suggestion emerged: That he was not eligible to serve.
That theory first emerged in the spring of 2008, as Clinton supporters circulated an anonymous email questioning Obama’s citizenship.
“Barack Obama’s mother was living in Kenya with his Arab-African father late in her pregnancy. She was not allowed to travel by plane then, so Barack Obama was born there and his mother then took him to Hawaii to register his birth,” asserted one chain email that surfaced on the urban legend site Snopes.com in April 2008.

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While not the originators of the birther B.S., Hillary's campaign in 2008 did circulate the famous photo of Obama in a turban.
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Hey, maybe Jimmy Fallon took a shit just before the show and didn't wash that hand before Trump came on.
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please ban this troll already
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@5 - 8, Dump said HILLARY CLINTON started it, not desperate PUMAs. But in our Breitbart new world, that nuance doesn't matter.

And to say he "ended it"? Show me the Fact Check or Snopes that supports that.

That he even addressed the issue after weeks of "I don't talk about that" shows he's a pussy.
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@4 and @5 - There is zero evidence that Clinton or her campaign had any connection to the racist PUMA conspiracy theories about Obama. Clinton had nothing to do with it, just as Bernie Sanders has nothing whatsoever to do with some of the more reprehensible conspiracy theories espoused by Bernie-or-Buster extremists.

Trump actively encourages the vile bigots in his camp. Not so Clinton (or Sanders).
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@12
@13
What's good for the goose…..

@14
You forgot Vince Foster.
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@10: more likely he gave Trump a hummer. the Roots must have been sick to their stomachs watching that craven enabling.
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Tricia, your writing is more effective and the profanity is also more effective is you limit it to only one or at the most three profane words in an article. Otherwise, it just comes across as sophomoric venting.
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"Why are these media outlets giving Trump so much attention?" whines media outlet in one of several reports about something Trump said or did.
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Fucking fuck, FUCK. You fuck? YES, I FUCK!
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At the risk of feeding idjit trolls like Comitatus, the idea that Clinton or her campaign had anything to do with the origin or spread of the birther claim is one of those convenient political lies that won't go away, especially when know-nothings continually spray their ideological diarrhea all over inter web forums.

Just today, once again, the facts have to be stated because political assholes keep spreading the lie, https://www.sharethefacts.co/share/db282…
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@18: Fuck your tone policing, you insipid twit.
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@18:

You've been commenting on SLOG for HOW long now, and you still clutch your pearls whenever someone uses an expletive of three?

Get the fuck over it already...

Tricia: Your very last sentence basically answers your own rhetorical question. Cable news organizations are far less concerned about reporting the truth than they are about getting eyeballs in front of their advertisers - that's their PRIMARY responsibility, because ad revenue drives their stock value. Network news orgs are only slightly less beholden, but not by much, and even at the local level there is unrelenting pressure brought down on broadcasters by news directors to toe this same line; even the most diligent and upstanding professional journalist will begrudgingly admit this is true. So, the news divisions will keep pumping this crap out because it upholds the illusion the two campaigns are running neck-and-neck, and they NEED to maintain that narrative in order to continue to pique viewer interest for the next two months.
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@21: It is kind of funny though, people more or less blamed Sanders for the antics of his supporters, and it is pretty clear that Clinton's supporters in 2008 spread the birther story, even if they did not create it (which your link also states).

So why does Hillary get a pass on what her supporters do, while Sanders does not?

Personally I don't think that candidates should be called to task for what their supporters do with their own free will, but it is clear that Sanders was treated much differently in this regard.

Not that this makes Trump less of a liar on the topic.
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So they've gotten to Donald too. The tentacles of the Clinton/Obama Death Machine are far reaching. What sort of threat did they use, I wonder, for a good Christian Family Man and Sound Business Leader like Donald Trump to sell out like this?

In reality, someone on the campaign probably gave him enough lithium to have a moment of clarity.
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Trump's advisors, or advisor, probably his daughter, have gotten through to him that in the current phase of the campaign, he should speak s-l-o-w-l-y, in very short sentences, with great emphasis. He's doing so, to great effect, and it makes his idiotic statements sound like they're coming from some form of a god. This may very well get him elected, and no one will be able to prevent that as long as every single media outlet shows him doing so.
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It was just a rogue Hillary staffer - not Hillary herself, of course - who started the Birther movement. Calm your tits, people.
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@4-6: FactCheck.org actually reports that Clinton did NOT have anything to do with birtherism. How does it feel to reference a source that actually proves you wrong, ya moron?
Politifact also confirms that this is the case.

As much as I appreciate having someone pathetic to laugh at, at some point I just start feeling sorry for Alleged. He goes to all this trouble just to embarrass himself in front of people who hate his guts...
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@29, perhaps you should ask the Clinton campaign manager who admitted the "rogue staffer."

https://twitter.com/MoElleithee/status/7…
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Dear god. The most crooked politician this side of Tammany Hall would never, ever, birth the birther movement. You're right.

And my candidate? I'm writing in my own name. So out of the two of us, I'm assuming you're the only one voting for absolute human garbage.
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Hillary should just confess to it all, all while saying she's so good the republican's can't pin it on her. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hBnwPyc…
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Hold up. Someone in the Hilary 08 campaign did question Obama's birth place. That's it. Someone sent an email mentioning the rumor. It doesn't mean that the rumor originated there nor that it was spread from her campaign.

In the early days, the rumor was spread by conservative radio, Breitbart, WND, Drudge, National Review and an assortment of GOP figures including Huckabee, Gingrich, and Palin who was a vp candidate. Hilary had nothing to do with that at all. No one involved her campaign went to the media or made public statements. It's crazy to try to say they started the conspiracy theory.

Aside from all this, let's play devil advocate and pretend it is true that her campaign started the rumor. How does that change the fact that Trump spent years discussing it? Bringing it up on every talk show for YEARS (dozens of shows) and saying he would not let go of the issue even after Obama offered proof? Trump is the one who was on TV talking about it for years, offering up millions of dollars for evidence about Obama's birth, etc.

Seriously, lately the shit in the press is enough to make my head spin. Our national politics and news media are not even functioning in reality any more.
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@34: Trump's embrace of Birther BS was his was only to legitimize himself with the Tea Party wing of the GOP, and assume leadership of that faction. I won him the nomination, pretty much. Up to now he's steadfastly refused to engage on the topic ("I don't talk about that anymore"). Why he took Clinton's bait now, who knows.

But he gets to dominate today's news cycle. Again. That is probably reason enough.
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It. It won him the leadership of the Tea Party. I didn't. It.
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How are you feeling Ms. Murano, perhaps a bit...triggered?
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@37: Yes, calling out bigots on their bigotry is EXACTLY the same as wholesale xenophobia and racism.
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Hillary taking a nosedive into her van is a metaphor for the campaign.
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If someone told me that CNN had been acquired by Rupert Murdoch I would not be surprised.
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@37 "Clinton COLLAPSED and had to be carried into her vehicle by 3 people"
Do tell, how much you and your Orange KKKandiarchimdate think Hillary weigh? 350 lbs? 400 lbs? "Inquiring minds want to know"!
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Can it be? Trump is our Brexit. It'll be a big FU vote to both parties. People are angry and hold huge resentment. They don't trust their government and public institutions. No amount of logic, truth, or appeal is going to work. You can call Trump supporters hillbillies, ignorant, stupid, racists, and subterranean, and they don't care.

Make them losers and they agree, they have nothing to lose. Welcome to their world. It's violent and angry. Scary.
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@43

mallow is 1000% spot on.

A huge segment of the population is pissed way beyond the breaking point at pretty much everything and everybody in the status quo.
Bernie got the support of those folks on the left.
Trump gets the rest.
People voting for Trump are sending a big FU to both political parties.
Trump himself it totally irrelevant, he is just a vehicle that came along at the right time.
The smug Left can insult and distort all they want, it won't phase those folks at all…;
if anything makes them more determined to Fuck You and your system.
Most people voting for Trump know he is an egotistical bafoon totally unsuited to be President.
They Do Not Care.

This is a huge segment of the country jumping on top of a car and screaming
BURN THIS BITCH DOWN!

You girls don't get it anymore than the dozen and a half GOP candidates got it, most reasonable qualified candidates by the standards of most years, who Trump bulldozed over like they weren't even there.
What you see is the result of an activist Federal judiciary getting way too far out in front of public sentiment,
of a Leftist popular culture industry going several bridges too far,
of a shrinking working/middle class footing the bill for a swelling moocher/taker class,
of a criminal class that has managed to stick the blame on the police;
sick to death and with nothing left to lose crying
I'm as mad as Hell and I'm not going to take this anymore...

It really isn't about Trump, you should save your breath.

And you really should hope he wins,
because if he doesn't a lot of people are going to feel even less ownership in this culture,
this civilization,
this thing we used to share called America.

It is scary.
And angry.
But it could get a lot more angry. And violent.

When Democrap Big Tent member mobs burn down neighborhoods and flip police cars throw fake blood on people after something doesn't go their way you think it is justified frustration expressing itself.
But this time around the Left may not be the only crowd looking to smash something.

Please, before the panty wetters start screaming to ban the troll; know-
those are not threats,
just a cold clear objective report on a people you have no actual knowledge of
and nothing but hatred and contempt for.
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@44: In other words, we should hope Trump wins because otherwise we'll be mobbed by angry rednecks.
I live among the Trump supporters; they ain't gonna do shit.
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@45:

Win OR lose we'll be mobbed. "Angry rednecks" described roughly 45% of my family tree, and they've been angry about something for as long as I can remember. Fortunately, most of the ones in my lineage have never bothered to vote, so at least I don't have to worry about that part.
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Thank you, thank you, thank you for saying it for me: FUCK CNN and ALL OTHER MEDIA OUTLETS for playing into Trump's hand perfectly and giving him a platform for his abuse and ridiculous behavior when, if he'd been shamed by them instead and called out every time he opened his airhole and shouted something crazy, reiterating all his past shinanigans to the point where he wasn't taken seriously, then maybe we wouldn't have to deal with him as a candidate. Every time he says something, he gets center stage because the media is a whore for sensationalism over content and doesn't hold a high enough standard to its own powerful place in our destiny as a country and culture. Hillary is going to win and Trump will be behind us, but they way he "trumped" headlines and lead stories over much more worthy causes such as Black Lives Matter, Wome's Rights, LBGTQ Rights, Global Warming, and environmental problems, etc., maybe we would have a different conversation more appropriate to our culture instead of a sound-off with a blowhard who draws out the worst in people who might reconsider the issues with a candidate who is at least saner and less divisive (even amongst the Republicans). He's gotten out-of-control so many times and the media has never really called him on it in a way that stuck. He's going to go down in history as a bigot, a racist, and a sexist as well as a histrionic man who hasn't ever had a foot in reality because he's got a personality disorder and he always seems to get his way. He won't though, because he won't win!
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#44: Nobody looks down on the people you are talking about. It's just that some of us(and my father's side of the family left Tennessee in 1914 and my mother was raised on a farm in the Willamette Valley, so I'm as "real American" as you are, buddy) don't think the answer to our problems is a hate campaign against everybody who isn't a hetero white Christian dude. This is a rainbow country and all of us have just as much right to be a part of it as you are.

BTW, the ACA helped a lot of people who ARE "Real American" types, and social spending has been cut to next to nothing while Obama has been in office, so nobody on benefits is on the gravy train and most of the "takers" look exactly like you and I do(while a lot of the "makers" are black or Latino or Muslim or gay, and more than you'd expect are all four).

Trump offers nothing but hatred and destruction. He can't make this country better, he doesn't WANT to make this country better, and he'll ditch all the working-class whites as soon as he gets in, just like Nixon and Reagan and both Bushes did.

The country is great as it is(badly flawed and in need of improvement, but great). And true patriotism is bringing people together and getting everyone to work with each other for a better future.

Making the country whiter can't make it greater. And the past Trump wants to bring back only existed on the Andy Griffith Show(btw...the last thing Andy himself did before he died was to do a commercial with Ron "Opie" Howard in support of Obama...so Andy would be doing all he could to stop Trump if he were here today).

We don't need a total bastard as president.
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In all honesty. The vitriol Obama and his family faced while occupying the White House will be 1000 X more rancid towards this loud mouth lying buffoon makes it to the presidency. Outside of the millions of fooled fools voters, pay back voters and plain old racist ignorant teabillies voters, this idiot will not be seen as president in the eyes of millions of other Americans. He will face the same racist hateful rhetoric that was directed to president Obama but 1000's of times worse. If this bitch wins a lot of people will stop believing in God! Because no God would let an abomination of sin win an office that impacts other persons lives!
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The title of this post is crude.
Does Tricia not realize how much crudeness offends and frightens Ansel?
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In fact, as soon as he wakes from his nap Ansel will surely do a post about
"Crude Anti-Trump Post Seen on Local Leftist Blog"

someone please have his smelling salts and binky ready…..
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How can you trust trump? Hillary fooled him for the past several years with this birther nonsense. He needs to be tested for a learning disability if hes so easily fooled.
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Article summed up: "why don't you report on my candidate? I don't care that she didn't do anything! Stop liking what I don't like!"

Given that I think both sides are bad, I'd be in a constant state of agitation if I held this much resentment,

Maybe Tricia just needs to rest and listen to some Mumford and Sons. That soothes the hipster soul, right?
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The trolls get paid for their trolling. Slog, please stop this nonsense that is feeding millions of pennies into the Trump campaign.
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Natey boy, you are blind, deaf, or dumb to not be at least a bit concerned and pretend there is nothing worrisome about HRC's health.

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