Hillary Clinton Is Now on the Offensive About the Emails

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She certainly is offensive.

You_Gotta_Be_Kidding_Me on October 28, 2016 at 5:55 PM

This is an outrage.
Even if she is running for President Hillary should have the private space to correspond by email with her lover Huma Abedin.
The FBI should be ashamed.
ASHAMED!

Commentor Comltatus on October 28, 2016 at 6:39 PM

It's a new moon, not a full moon. I therefore cannot explain @1, @2 or @3.

originalcinner on October 28, 2016 at 8:41 PM

@4

Fetal alcohol syndrome?

seatackled on October 28, 2016 at 8:53 PM

These "new" emails weren't about Hillary, Hillary didn't try to delete them, and they weren't found on her server.

Lock! Her! Up!

footface on October 28, 2016 at 10:00 PM

Yawn

Machiavelli was framed on October 28, 2016 at 10:53 PM

keep putting all your eggs in this 1 basket, ding dongs.

the clintonmail server was Colin Powell's idea, anyway.

Max Solomon on October 29, 2016 at 7:13 AM

Seemed like a bombshell? Based on what? Why doesn't the Stranger just sell out to Rupert Murdoch already. And are you ever going to correct the headline and story by Ana Sofia Knauf?

cgd on October 29, 2016 at 7:53 AM

There's a helluva lot of disinformation going round. Vanity Fair's Kurt Eichenwald claimed there were only three emails when there are thousands that need looking at; his trying to cover his ass today is "my evolution of opinion is the result of reporting." Early reports said the case was being reopened while later ones stated it was never closed (again, Kurt misstated saying that it was never being reopened; his opinion got passed around a lot yesterday).

Still, there's a helluva lot of irony to Hillary demanding that the FBI tell us what they know. It's almost like her own obfuscation doesn't even register. It's ok when she plays coy, but not when anybody else does.

TheMisanthrope on October 29, 2016 at 9:40 AM

ABC news:

These emails were not sent by Hillary Clinton, and the FBI has no evidence of wrongdoing by her, according to a source familiar with the investigation.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/fbis-late…

cgd on October 29, 2016 at 11:07 AM

We can only pray that this blows over and that as president, Mrs. Clinton will have come to terms with her and Bill's needless quest for secrecy and truth spinning and put it to rest forever.

Phoebe in Wallingford on October 29, 2016 at 11:13 AM

good lord I can't wait until the election is over, and the trolls crawl back to where they came from.

JonnoN on October 29, 2016 at 11:26 AM

@12 I love anonymous sources.

An anonymous source close to that anonymous source said she's full of shit. To which the original anonymous source said, he doesn't know what he's talking about, and if he did, why wouldn't he have pursued investigating me when he had the chance.

TheMisanthrope on October 29, 2016 at 11:55 AM

@15: You sound like someone with rabies afraid of water.

raindrop on October 29, 2016 at 11:59 AM

I've seen just one single yard Prez sign this whole election season (not counting local candidates, of which there are plenty). One of my neighbors just put it up this past week. It's for Gary Johnson. I don't know the guy; I don't know if he's a rock-solid Libertarian or if he's just holding his nose about either main party this time round.

originalcinner on October 29, 2016 at 12:11 PM

@19: I entertained thoughts of spray painting "White Trash for Trump" on rain-soaked plywood that's amongst my neighbor's old tires, suitcases, wire, and other assorted objects that adorn the front of his garage - in hopes that he'd be so embarrassed he'd clean it up.

raindrop on October 29, 2016 at 12:52 PM

@13: "needless quest for secrecy"? aside from the fact that a lot of the shit the president and the SoS do REQUIRES secrecy, if you'd been relentlessly attacked by political enemies for 30 years, you'd guard yourself as well.

again, this was Colin Powell's suggestion for how to get around the State Dept's antiquated technology, but HRC knows that pointing fingers makes you sound like a whiner.

or a Republican Nominee.

Max Solomon on October 29, 2016 at 1:45 PM

@21 pointing fingers? Like when HRC stubs her toe on the refrigerator and blames Putin and the Russians for it? Your apologia is laughable.

Also, Powell never set up a private server.

https://theintercept.com/2016/09/13/coli…

William F. Fuckley on October 29, 2016 at 3:04 PM

@21 You mean pointing fingers like saying this was advice given to her by Colin Powell, when he neither had a private server nor told her to do it? (I take it you missed that email)

You mean pointing fingers like every time there is an email drop, she blames Russia for hacking her team's emails without taking any responsibility for the content therein (but not denying them either)?

You mean pointing fingers like Hillary getting questions about the foundation, and then putting out reports about Powell's foundation doing the same thing?

You mean pointing fingers like saying that her SuperPAC was originally Obama's SuperPAC and she might as well use it?

Or how about Hillary saying that the crime bill was Bill's mistake, and not hers?

Or that it was purely Bush's fault she voted to go to war with Iraq?

That's been Hillary's MO this whole time: it's always the other guy's fault for doing it first.

TheMisanthrope on October 29, 2016 at 3:50 PM

@24, all good points but then it's prudent to still vote for her anyway especially if you're in a swing state.

raindrop on October 29, 2016 at 5:07 PM

@24: i guess you know more about pointing fingers than i do. i simply meant that during the debates and final weeks, its better not to talk about it than do what trump does and dig a grave.

i see you've already prepared one, though.

Max Solomon on October 29, 2016 at 7:12 PM

also, http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/07/politics/h…

Max Solomon on October 29, 2016 at 7:26 PM

Say Hillary addressing a group in Florida Saturday on MSNBC.
We couldn't see the crowd but judging from her tone and language we would assume it was a collection of slightly dim elementary school age children.
We assume she knows the IQ of her target audience better than we, or perhaps she is condescending to everyone.
At least everyone who issn't paying her a quarter of a million bucks for 20 minutes of her time...

Commentor Comltatus on October 30, 2016 at 4:13 AM

Saw Hillary addressing a group in Florida Saturday on MSNBC.
We couldn't see the crowd but judging from her tone and language we would assume it was a collection of slightly dim elementary school age children.
We assume she knows the IQ of her target audience better than we, or perhaps she is condescending to everyone.
At least everyone who issn't paying her a quarter of a million bucks for 20 minutes of her time...

Commentor Comltatus on October 30, 2016 at 4:13 AM

She was pretty hard on Comey.
She said the letter was strange and unprecedented.
What we find strange is how sour Democraps are on Comey now when few months ago they thought he was a swell guy.
What we find unprecedented is the naked political pressure Democraps bringing to try to influence an ongoing FBI investigation.

Commentor Comltatus on October 30, 2016 at 4:28 AM

Hillary wants the FBI to tell all what they know about Huma's emails.
Hillary said the people have a right to know!
Good ol' Hillary, always fighting for the people's right to know....

Like when she put her government emails on a private server explicitly to avoid public scrutiny of them.
Like when she deleted 33,000 emails AFTER receiving a subpoena to produce them.
Like when she bleached her server to make extra sure the FBI and public never saw those emails.
Good ol' Hillary fighting for the people's right to know!

We hope the criminal lying piece of shit wins the election.
We hope her criminal lying crimes dog her from the first second of her toxic malignant administration.
We think the criminal lying piece of shit is just what you deserve for a president.

Now get your asses out there and vote for your criminal lying piece of shit candidate.

Are you still sitting there?!...

Commentor Comltatus on October 30, 2016 at 4:39 AM

But we must admit we are more and more impressed with how securely Team Clinton handles the nations classified materials.
Thousands of State Dept emails ending up on the laptop of a deviant pedophile pervert?
Pretty. Fucking. Impressive.
The Russians/Chinese/Iranians/NKoreans/kid in his mother's basement will never find them there.....

Commentor Comltatus on October 30, 2016 at 4:44 AM

@26, @28 In that email, he said that he was flagrantly breaking the rules because the state department frowned upon it. He did not tell HRC what to do, but merely told her what he did himself while admitting it was wrong. If anything, the email points to Hillary's "intent" to break the rules because Powell told her it was wrong. (Note: Powell should receive the same punishment that HRC gets)

Also, @26 Yes, it was totally Bill rallying for the crime bill and talking about super predators.

@27 That sure as shit wasn't what you said, and you know it. "Pointing fingers makes Hillary sound like a whiner" is not the same thing as digging a grave like Trump does. Besides, she's already used up her Powell pointing finger, and is now trying to use one aimed at Comey. Because it's totally Comey's fault that HRC started this bullshit by breaking the rules (intentionally or not) in the first place.

TheMisanthrope on October 30, 2016 at 4:56 AM

We genuinely feel sorry for Huma, however.
(really.)

Married to Wiener?
O.M.F.G....
Rumors that she and Hill are lezzy lovers?
Too bad there no BleachBit to scour that image out of the brain...

it does bring up an interesting aspect of the world of NastyWoman.
Behind every NastyWoman is a piece of shit worthless male.
Or, more commonly, a string of them...

Interesting piece of homework for you;
compare the voting habits of women who are primary breadwinners to that of women who have a husband who financially supports them and allows them to be mom/homemakers.
interesting.
Then look at the voting habits of women who are dependent on government aid to survive.
fascinating.

The GOP does not have a 'woman gap';
it has a 'women who don't have a real man in their life' voting gap.

NastyBitterDependentWoman keeps the Democraps afloat.

Commentor Comltatus on October 30, 2016 at 5:08 AM

btw,
while carefully researching the above post
we came across the fact that Bill is not even Chelsea's biological father?!?!!!
w.t.f ?
Way to go Hillary!

Commentor Comltatus on October 30, 2016 at 5:11 AM

@34: i didn't hear the "colin powell did it too" excuse in the debates. did you? i didn't hear "22 million emails deleted from a private server by the bush admin" excuse in the debates. did you?
she said as little as she could in defense and pivoted asap. that's what a smart pol does, as much as it frustrates me.

the server wasn't her idea. powell set a trap, intentionally or not. why isn't he swept up in the investigation? he admitted breaking rules (omg, someone BROKE RULES! that never happens), didn't he?

campaigns can whine and point fingers, but those excuses didn't come out of HRC's mouth. those "contextualizations" come from her surrogates, and that's entirely normal. trump has conway et al to clean up his poop, doesn't he?

Max Solomon on October 30, 2016 at 2:41 PM

@37 Actually, she did blame "her predecessor…

But, March is such ancient history.

TheMisanthrope on October 30, 2016 at 4:49 PM

@38 I should note that quote blaming "her predecessors" came in the context of a debate. The one on Univision. So, yeah, that excuse certainly did come out of her mouth.

The server wasn't Colin Powell's idea. He used AOL. Which is laughably worse. But, he's not running for president is he?

You can call Colin Powell's statements of his behavior a "trap" but that would hint that Clinton was a mindless zombie who had no idea rules existed. Which, come on, she's not a stupid person. I'd never call her that. Corrupt, conniving, and two-faced...but never stupid.

Your defense of her behavior is misinformed at best.

TheMisanthrope on October 30, 2016 at 5:05 PM

"good lord I can't wait until the election is over, and the trolls crawl back to where they came from."

No such luck, pal. Those same folks will swallow and regurgitate endless conspiracy theories for her entire time in office. Bear in mind the Wall Street Journal's whacked-out editorial page was, in mid-2001, still trying to prove that FDR had advance warning of the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor. Yep, almost sixty years after the fact, FDR's haters were still at it. (That crew was soon redeployed to prove how W had not known in advance of any planned attack 9/11, no way, no how, no sir. Pay no attention to the Presidential Daily Brief of 6 August 2001.)

Also note there are now middle-aged American right-wingers who have spent *their entire adult lives* hating Hillary Clinton. Why would they suddenly let mere facts get in the way of doing that now?

tensor on October 30, 2016 at 8:33 PM

@39 Your hate-on must be rubbed raw at this point.

Pridge Wessea on October 30, 2016 at 9:10 PM

@41 Arent you tired of pointlessly attacking people in order to white knight for Hillary? I know she's oh so innocent and defenseless, but it must be exhausting denigrating everybody who isn't a sycophantic follower.

TheMisanthrope on October 30, 2016 at 9:32 PM

@42 Oh, just go ahead and mark down Trump on your ballot. If he wins, he promises that he'll do frontier justice on all of his many many enemies, so your misogynistic hate-on for Hillary will get the happy ending you've been begging for for many many months now.

Orc on October 30, 2016 at 10:52 PM

We love the smell of panic in the morning….

Commentor Comltatus on October 31, 2016 at 6:26 AM

Comey isn't required to make the statement that he did. Comey isn't updating his testimony. Comey's letter said there might be new information, and that's not the same thing.

rebeccax on October 31, 2016 at 8:22 AM

> still have the majority of the white vote.

can we stop talking like the majority skin color in this country shares any kind of commonality with these morons beyond that

The CHZA on October 31, 2016 at 8:27 AM

@42 Aren't you tired of endlessly harping on something as ludicrously trivial as emails when we have before us a clear and immanent threat to civilization as we know it? Aren't you and the rest of the fringy cranks embarrassed in the least about endlessly regurgitating ginned up scandals manufactured in right-wing meth labs?

One of the most amusing things about the fringe left harping on the email thing: just about every single one of you has been raving about government secrecy for at least the last 8 years, the harassment of leakers etc., and now you will have us believe that the fact that Clinton inappropriately handled government secrets is of utmost concern to you?

Rhizome on October 31, 2016 at 10:37 AM

@47 That Clinton had her email on her own private server is a problem, not just for security but also transparency. As with Hillary deleting at least 33k emails, the private server issue allows her to delete sensitive, and possibly criminal, emails without repercussion. Do you think that she used BleachBit in order to delete emails about wedding plans and Grandma Clinton's pancake recipes? Please. There's a reason she violated established state policy, and it has everything to do with a lack of transparency. She violated policy, broke the law, but they can't prove intent so she escapes jail time. Meanwhile, her crowing about super predators in support of a bill with mandatory minimums helped double the prison population during the 90s.

Speaking of policy violations, there's a rich irony to Clinton's supporters complaining about Comey violating established Justice Department policy by writing a letter to congress, while giving HRC a pass for doing the same.

As for Trump, both candidates are vile but we're talking about Hillary right now.

TheMisanthrope on October 31, 2016 at 4:42 PM

@42 - The irony of you lecturing anyone on doing something "pointlessly."

@50 - "but we're talking about Hillary right now."

All lubed up, eh?

Pridge Wessea on October 31, 2016 at 9:03 PM

Hey guys, I already voted for Hillary Clinton and no amount of bullshit hate posting will change that. Suck on that for a while.

Solk512 on November 1, 2016 at 6:11 AM

@53 Why in the fuck should I care about what Russia Today has to say about anything regarding this election? Do you actually not have the critical thinking skills to not take them seriously?

And Clinton wants my children dead? Please seek help.

Solk512 on November 1, 2016 at 10:08 AM

@50 Ah well chief, the evidence that 'Hillary deleted 33,000' emails is exactly zero, some flunky for her service provider did that, but I don't suppose that means squat to anyone wallowing as deeply in alt-right conspiracy theories as you and the rest of your shameless fringe pals are. Seriously, not embarrassed in the slightest? Not a teensy bit?

I have some friends who are huffing the same cleaning fluid as you are and all I can say is: if Clinton pulls this one out I shall be magnanimous. If somehow Trump squeaks in, and let's be clear if it is a squeaker you shits are going to be on the hook, all bets are off. All bets are off.

Rhizome on November 1, 2016 at 1:44 PM

@55 The Clintonian Left is unhinged. All bets are off?

TheMisanthrope on November 1, 2016 at 3:57 PM

It's the Bernie friends who hate Hillary that most upset me. One posted a Bernie 2020 profile picture and it's upsetting to think he hates her so much he'd actually want Trump to win. As a white man it's super easy for him to have those "principals." He thinks he's so informed from his RT, can't hear the fact that it's straight from Russia propaganda, all the articles he posts are comically-obvious garbage news and I am sick of calling him out on poor sources. He even posted a Bill O'Reilly speech! The Bernie rage to me is just super obvious shit; the government is corrupt, duh, we all learned that in our teens and twenties but you're 45 and just hearing/caring for the first time. Calm down, you're being hysterical, grow-up, vote, contribute to society and maybe you can implement change in your own way. But you can sit in your basement and rage if you want to.
Can we still be friends after this?

HandlebarWallace on November 1, 2016 at 9:08 PM

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