Drawing upon a wealth of spiritual insights and wisdom from across our deep Catholic tradition...

Hahahahahahaha!!

You know how it is: you have a busy day, have to get groceries, make that doctor's appointment, the kids are screaming in the back of the car, you get so distracted that you stop thinking about Jesus, and BAM! a big rubbery one right in the chops.

I've always assumed that the christian/jewish/muslim God is so obsessed with cocks because he's gay himself.

It's not just gay people who are supposed to lead sexless lives. The pope recently criticized women who have multiple children while also insisting that they not use contraception. I guess you could see progress that they basically only hate gay sex as much as they hate straight sex for purposes other than procreation (and even that is now only acceptable a limited number of responsible times).

This is just how they see sex- an evil thing that should be avoided all but a small handful of times in an entire life. The pedophilia coverup scandal makes more sense in this context. It's not that they are more accepting of sex with children, it's just that they don't see much difference. To them, it's all evil. You treat a priest who consensually fucks a nun the same way you treat a priest who consensually fucks a priest the same way as a priest who rapes a child. They are all just sinners trying to avoid evil sex. It's sex that's inherently evil to these assholes.

It's seriously some twisted fucked up craziness.

@5 and they have lost so much credibility as a result that i don't know why anyone would bother mentioning this trog's book. no one is going to read it except dan and a few other trogs in the choir.

All to get into a Heaven that's probably not even real. Seems worth it.

will there be dicks in heaven?

@8: Just one, His.

It's not that they are more accepting of sex with children, it's just that they don't see much difference. To them, it's all evil.
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Yes, I think that's at the basis of it.

There's also something that we see going on with Republicans right now in the US. So much of the focus is taken up with protecting the church/party from outside attack that there is none left to recognize that the attacks are warranted, and that they are defending an institution that is morally bankrupt. It's all "circle the wagons, we're being attacked" rather than "we've behaved reprehensibly, and need to make fundamental changes if we are to survive at all - and we need to consider if our survival is even a desired outcome"

I suppose it IS much easier to live a life of chastity if you are asexual.

Dolan is a horrible human being.

On the outside chance there are closeted gay Christian men reading these comments, please ignore the conversation here and go watch the documentary For the Bible Tells Me So on youtube. It does a good job of breaking down how off-point all the anti-gay rhetoric is and shows religious families working through (to varying degrees of success) accepting their gay kids. Personally, I don't believe you have to practice Christianity, or any other faith, to feel the Grace of God. And I don't believe you have to reject your faith in order to fully embrace sexual/romantic intimacy with people of the same sex/gender. Be true to yourself. Keep working to be more respectful in your relations to others. It's all any of us can do.

https://youtu.be/c4ftBG7fNpI

I normally allow Dan a very wide berth to make nonsensical and bitchy comments about Catholicism. It's an insider/outsider thing. Making juvenile criticisms of a religion you were forced to engage with as a kid seems like fair game to me. But linking to the King James Bible as his example of the primary text Cardinal Dolan was promoting? The preeminent Protestant text. Maybe just accept you don't know what you're talking about and leave the criticism to people who do? I mean, as long as you're pretending to care about men who might be injured by this horrible book.

@12 iseultL Agreed. When will this horrible epidemic end? Do we really need another Bubonic Plague?

@11 Litch: While it is for me because I happen to be asexual, I feel sick for others who aren't and stand to be hurt by this. Dolan should be ashamed of himself.

@13 SophieX, the King James bible is a translation, not an original text as such. Catholics have been known to use it, since they stopped insisting on Latin for everything.

Current Catholic doctrine on homosexuality isn't just based on interpretations of the Bible, it's also drawing (selectively) on centuries of Catholic tradition on ideas like complementarity of the sexes, and that if you really must have sex, it should be the baby-making kind. (Got to keep up the supplies of new Catholics)

I seem to remember Dan was an altarboy back in the day: he'd have had all this dinned into him at vulnerable times, and it's understandable he'd react strongly to seeing it still being pushed on people.

Timothy Dolan represents much of what's wrong with the Catholic church. He comes on like this happy, well-loved, well-liked, kindly guy but spews century's old dogma born during the Bronze Age. He just another poisonous, uptight Catholic priest who feels very much entitled and is under the impression that he owns every room he enters.