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Persistence is a river in Egypt.
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Why the snipe in favor of Bernie? What's he got to do with any of this aside from being a spoiler? And no mention about her talk at the Paramount last night? Talk about sloppy and lazy reporting.
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@2
And if, heaven forbid, one of these ladies is attacked by a junkie hobo downtown, then we'll all have to endure some op-ed about "toxic masculinity" instead of a rational, clear eyed assessment of the public safety problem Downtown.
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"While Bernie's line clearly would have been longer, The Stranger spoke ".
Wow, you guys are really assholes. @2 is right, fucking lazy shits too.
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Great plan ladies: bring back the loser from 2008 and 2016. So bad a candidate that a shithead with a bleached dead mammal on his head could beat her, after the obscure black guy did. Got the pattern? Get a good candidate next time, not a neolib failure.
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News flash: Hillary Lost. Get over it. Maybe it's time to put some efforts into finding a viable candidate to run against Trump or we'll get two terms of that fucking asshole.

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@3 @7

You guys are awesome and all, however, you a totally missing the subtext of the article. I will spell it out for you - Bernie would have won!
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oh yay, this thread again.

democrats arguing with each other yet again. awesome. however did the democrats lose the election I wonder?
14
Oh, Christ, these two are dim
15
I will never understand what it is about Hillary that gets some folks so very riled up. She's kind of a Rorschach test for a person's ability to discern bullshit media narratives and half-truths from actual reality.
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@4: the odds that a "junkie hobo" would attack these women is vanishingly small, even at 3rd and yesler or under the viaduct. besides, they're not even downtown, they're on Capitol Hill! they might get spanged.

these women will vote for whomever gets the democratic nomination in 2020, just like 80% of seattle. they're not crazy.
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Yeah, I voted for her.
19
These people are an embarrassment to themselves.
20
Wow, the misogyny here is thick here today...
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@13 a quarter of the posters in here are probably sock puppet accounts of the same trolls.
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@20 And every day.
Here's a flash: Bernie lost. He couldn't win the nomination, and he would have lost to the Trumpers too, because Socialism. He never saw a truly hostile campaign, although he sure flung enough shit to help Trump.
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@21,

Sometimes I wonder if all of slog commenters--indeed, all of slog--is just a bunch of chatbots talking to each other.
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@15,

Seriously! I honestly don't recall her being really all that polarizing until Cheeto began riling everyone up to believe she was the devil itself. Some folks were put off by her, though I'd wager ol' David in Shoreline probably wouldn't have been able to tell her apart from a randomly chosen citizen prior to 2015.
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@24 Apparently you weren't around for the 2008 primary.
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In all fairness to Hillary fans, and the observation that the line was filled with older people - a little historical perspective seems in order. (And don't start jumping all over me because I'm a big critic of Hillary, too, these days.) But .. back in the day - and not that long ago, either - there were NO women in Congress. Everyone was a white dude. Roe v Wade passed in the 70s and it was major. Reproductive rights were a big issue along with the sexism reflected in our elected government, and, women - many in this older category being mocked - banded together and voted women into Congress in hoardes. It was a major thing . and it's why we have establishment Democrats today like Feinstein, Pelosi, Boxer, Murray, Cantwell, etc. etc. And . yeah, I have the same criticisms of these Democrats today that others have. But there was no one there for women besides a motley assortment of some liberal white men. And around the same time, there were a similar thrust for African Americans and other minorities to get into office, resulting in today's Congressional Black Caucus. And we all know .. we still have a long ways to go. And - I think it's fair to say that these women - for the most part - did not abandon their promise to defend Roe v Wade. Although their alliance with the insurance and pharma - which helped maintain their existence also became this double-edged sword which slew women's rights in a whole other way - including on abortion (for ex, the ACA actually set reproductive rights back in this Faustian kind of bargain Boxer and Baucus made with the lobbyists). But back to Hillary, for a minute. In the midst of all of this, along came a 1st Lady who was the first 1st Lady since Eleanor Roosevelt not to be a "wall flower," but an intelligent and outspoken individual in her own right. And the prevailing mood was that, for the first time, people began to think about the possibility of a woman president as a real thing - and a real thing to expect. People looked at Bill, and everyone "knew" that Hillary and her presence and personality was a big reason why he won and was so popular (in addition to his own appealing traits - believe it or not - he did have appealing traits). And this was a "fever" of sorts - that "she could be president." And so ... America made an oath of sorts to itself. Not only "could she" but .. she would, I think was decided on some collective unconscious leve, almost - and "wouldn't that be grand." People need to understand that Hillary was someone who came on television - and women would start calling each other on the phone .. "Did you see her?" "Did you hear what she said?" "Look how she handled them" (meaning, those chauvinistic pigs in the GOP). So .. this is not really in defense of Hillary (though maybe it is a bit) but more about what she means to women in America and what it was like before millennials "woke up" in a way in a world that seemingly existed this way forever. Believe it or not, some of the gains people enjoy today were actually achieved by those older people standing in line for Hillary's book signing. And I have no doubt the millennials are the smartest and best generation yet. But hopefully, one day, they, too, will have another generation - even smarter - telling them to WTFU.
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@25 - Let me guess, you started with Fox News (remember their first tagline? It was a lie.) and read Rush Limbaugh lying about the bible in the first chapter of his first book and then lying about everything beyond that?

You, like me, came of age when right wing media was just getting started. They told you to hate Hillary, so you did. And now you have trump, someone whose intellect, curiosity, and morals match your own. No wonder the cultists love it; alt-right media gives them people to hate and a sacred orange calf to worship.

Thoughts and prayers.
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@29:

The crow souffle is piping hot - and I'm saving it all, just for you...
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I voted for Hillary after Bernie ceded the Democratic nomination in 2016, and I'd vote for Hillary AGAIN. She was our ONLY sane, qualified choice for 45th President of the United States. An additional 3 million voters voted for Hillary than Trumpzilla and its cabinet of swamp creatures. So get over it, yourselves, trolls and haters and go back to your caves already.
@30 & @31: Could I buy either of you a drink?
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@13 & @23, and @21: Nope. No sock puppets here. I'm a living, breathing commenter.
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Well, hell yeah, she's a Viable Candidate for 2020.
Just as viable then as she was before.

We don't need no Progressive Socialists handing out shit like Free Healthcare and Free Education and Childcare and all that 'free' Crap. WTF peeps -- y'alls acting like we was the Richest damn Country on the whole Planet.... Hell, everyone KNOWS Socialism don't Work!

Except in Canada. And Germany . Scandinavia. New Zealand. Pretty much Everywhere...

Remind me again -- WHY can't we do that here?
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@34,
We do have that here. For big corporations.

They get to privatize their profits and socialize their losses. If you're not wealthy or a corporation, then you're forced to socialize your profits and privatize your losses. Our entire government is a puppet of the ultra wealthy and big corporate bosses. The citizens have no say in the matter. Corporations don't want socialism for the unwashed masses... and so the masses don't get to have it. Simple as that.
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#2 She won the popular vote, remember?

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