WSJ: Trump Campaign Paid Hush Money to a Porn Star

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I think they are already preparing articles of impeachment for Hillary Clinton.
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Stormy was taking a real gamble, agreeing to that. Everyone knows Trump doesn't pay his workers.
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Stormy denies it (as contractually obligated), so that's probably the end of it. Except for MRAs high-fiving each other.

NDAs are the best!
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I kind of remember that name. Wasn't she thinking of running against David Vitter or something?
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Also, Stormy Daniels can go fuck herself for selling us out instead of speaking out before the election.
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It would not have mattered one bit if she said anything. IOKIYAT.

Take the money and run, Stormy. You earned it.

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Having the Donald as president sure makes waiting for the next episode of Crazy Ex-Girlfriend easier.
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...in which we learn that Dan Savage has never heard of Gennifer Flowers.
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I would love to have an attorney read and explain (for us non-lawyers) FLOTUS's prenup!
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The WSJ characterizes Ms Daniels as a retired porn actress. She is under contract with Wicked Studios and still works as a performer and a director and a producer. And she is hot. Look in a mirror, Dan. Is that what you expected to look like at 50? Didn't think so. Exercise, diet, and medicine--we're not aging as fast as we used to.
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Pays for sex. What a loser. Sad! No wonder stds were his “Vietnam”.
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Now let's pretend it was Bill Clinton who paid a porn star $130K in hush money a month before the 2016 election and Hillary knew about it.

Obviously, the Clinton Foundation would have been involved. We would have needed at least 1,500 hours of live televised Congressional hearings to manufacture enough innuendo suggesting it was true, without ever actually finding any hard evidence of wrongdoing.
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Who cares?
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couldnt she get a lot more than $130k for an exclusive interview with an outlet now and make much more than the $130k - pay back the $130k and bank the rest? or publish a 'fictional story' and collect royalties? i've always wondered how these shush agreements work and what prevents people from breaking them? they're just contracts, and contracts are broken all the time
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Another adult film actress claims Stormy Daniels and Trump invited her to their hotel room: report

http://www.rawstory.com/2018/01/another-…
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Why do we care that Trump has sex with a prostitute more than a decade ago and paid to not be outed right before the election? What's the difference between hush money and extortion?
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@5: I don't think that would have made a difference.
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I do enjoy Dan's take-downs of this sort. He has a knack.
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@2-in all fairness, he does support some of them. until the divorce.
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Sportlandia@16: the name is sex worker, that is the preferred name by those in the industry. Prostitute, hooker etc have sexist connotations.
Because this was right before the election for POTUS. It would have been information that yes, this sad old man in his whitey whites running around a hotel room chasing a woman, who was not his wife.. was as dispicable around women as he'd ever been. Fresh kill would be evident.
And on it goes. I read Franco has been a piece of self entitled shit. Who would have guessed?
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@14 there's a couple ways they are enforceable beyond simply paying back the original $130,000. 1) if she breached it, or anticipitorily breached it (i.e. started promoting a tell-all) Donald could go into court and get an order compelling her to comply or face contempt of court proceedings, which could include additional fines and/or jail time.

2) oftentimes, NDAs will have a "liquidated damages" provision; eg if Stormy breaches the NDA, she has to pay Donald $5,000,000. They're not always enforceable, but sometimes they are and they're pretty scary.

The trick to breaching the NDA would be getting Stormy subject to subpoena or court order. Private parties can agree to keep things confidential, but that private agreement can't trump (hah!) the subpoena power of the courts or government.
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@13: Thank you for being such a great example of Dan's point.
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D. Plorable: F*€K YEAH! Der Führer is a REAL, RED-BLOODED, AMERICAN [white] MALE!! With HEALTHY DESIRES, and he DOESN'T try to HIDE IT [except, ya' know, the hush-money thing]!! Just like my DADDY! MAN, I wish I could be such a BAD-ASS! He's EVERYTHING I wish I was! Not like that WUSSY mom-jeans-wearing MUSLIM!! And the SNOWflake LIBrulz can't say nothin' because he was just taking DAN SAVAGE advice: It's ok to FUCK AROUND and lie about it, if that's what it takes to STAY SANE and SAVE YOUR MARRIAGE!! WOOOOOOOOOO!!!! MAAAGGGAAAA!!!

Normal Reader: Paying for sex and hushing it up before a campaign? What'd you expect?
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@23 FTW!
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Has Stormy Daniels done interracial porn? If so someone should send the president a link to an interracial porno video. (Er, assuming it's legal to do so. . . .)

(I just discovered that speech software writes the word as "p***.")
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@13 - Hear hear. Since when do Savagistas mind if someone pays for sex? Hope she used it as a down payment on a house.
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Question: a bunch of people here are saying/implying that Trump paid her for sex. Has that been reported somewhere, or did I miss it in the article? (Sorry if I missed it). Stormy Daniels is a porn star, and while many porn stars escort* as well...I kind of assumed the scandal was that he was cheating (with a porn star), not that he paid for it... Or perhaps he assaulted her/treated her shitty/exposed himself/etc.

*Not passing any judgement as to porn, escorting, or sex work in general. I'm just curious what the actual facts are surrounding the need for the hush money.
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$130K? Honey, Gennifer Flowers made hundreds of thousands (in early '90s dollars!) for selling her story of having sex with Bill Clinton (although, to be fair, some people did find him not repulsive). You're in the *entertainment industry*, and you sold the story rights for a mere $130K? Either you're the most foolish hooker with a heart of gold ever, or there's a lot more to the story than this. Let's hope we hear more!

Hear hear. Since when do Savagistas mind if someone pays for sex?

He wasn't paying her for sex-- although it was illegal for him to do so. He was paying her hush money. That's the issue here. Do try to keep up.
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@16.Sportlandia. yes. I got the dates wrong, this was back in 06. Like you said, a decade earlier.
It still matters because as the President of the USA one wouldn't expect hush money to be paid to a porn star. Somehow, it just doesn't fit the role. Or it didn't fit the old one. Trump has carved out a new meaning for the job.
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Y'all, it's not the fact that he had sex with a porn star or chased her around in his tightie whities.

By all evidence, Stormy Daniels has kept up her end of the NDA. It's other people who were involved in the transaction somehow (lawyers, people at banks, etc) who spilled. This isn't suggestion or innuendo if there are documented bank trails.

What makes this a big deal is that it shows that Trump is susceptible to blackmail. If he's willing to fork out enough for a small house in a mid-size city to keep a woman quiet about what appears to be consensual activities (nobody that I've seen is alleging anything rapey or assaulty, but I could be wrong)...in other words, salacious, but not illegal or arguably even wrong...what is he willing to pay for things that are actually bad stuff? Keep in mind that this is a man who was dinged for $Millions in civil court for fraud and his former business manager is a known affiliate of the Russian mob (Sater), so there's a greater than average likelihood for Bad Stuff than your average Joe or Jane.

Between being a rampant liar and now proven to be susceptible to blackmail, it makes the upcoming interview with Mueller's team look to be an interesting event.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but the IRS would have considered that money income so it's either on her tax return or she may be liable for huge fines if not worse.
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@ 31,

That's a fun take. I would initially have thought it to be a private transaction. But then maybe the existence of a contract would dictate otherwise?
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@27 Jellob,

I came here to ask precisely that. This is one Trump scandal I don't GAF about. I mean, unless there was some issue of assault, I really do not give a flying fuck who Trump or any other politician has consensual adult sex with.

But I am curious if anyone has sex with this man for fun. I know a lot of porn actors do escort work as well, and I just really hope that he paid her for the encounter, which is what everyone here seems to be assuming. I'm not following the story, but best I can tell from this and a few other conversations, the allegation is that he paid her to hush up after the sexual encounter, not for the encounter itself, right?

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@30 hit the nail on the head. This isn't about the fact that Trump has to pay for sex. I couldn't care less what he does with his shriveled little cocktail frank as long as it's consensual (counting if he's paying a fair price). What matters is that he's so desperate to hide his secrets that he's willing to give money and/or favors to keep them hidden. That means if a foreign agent had, hypothetically, a video of him paying prostitutes to pee on him he would probably give them anything they wanted. Hell, I wouldn't put it past him to give Putin our nuclear arsenal to hide the actual measurements of his penis.
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There are enough things that Trump/GOP has done these past few days alone (attacks on legal immigration, attacks on DACA, the wall, the tax bill, the NSA expansion, the work requirements for Medicaid, the offshore drilling plans) that the lives of millions of people in this country will be affected for the next decade or so if not longer- and the Dems compromised on most of that! And that's just since the New Year and just domestic policy. So it continues to baffle me that people feel the need to invent things such as hypothetical situations in which Trump is blackmailed by Russians over gross sexual stuff.

He doesn't have secrets beyond his own personal bullshit because he's an idiot who doesn't understand anything. He's not going to make any decisions about giving arsenals, nuclear or not, because he's not the one making those decisions. He can't even sit through a televised discussion on DACA without his handlers telling him what to say. He's a fucking idiot- a racist and belligerent and disgusting idiot, but an idiot.

Who gives a fuck if he paid someone hush money to hide something that would wound his pride- which is the ONLY thing he cares about. The Republicans meanwhile are robbing us blind and the Democrats are cooperating with them in expanding a police state.
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@20 I get why we would have cared, in the moment, that's hot news, obviously. But the election is over, this shit happened a decade ago. We all react like "oooh maybe this one will be the turn back the clock and we can redo the election" sorry nope life is a one strike you're out kinda place