OMG, the state is running a school for gifted youngsters???!

First: the father acted like a father should and the judge acted like the legal system should.

Second, not everyone cares or gives a shit about football and that's a GOOD thing. So Alex can suck it!

You can't really be surprised that a video of yourself hanging the president in effigy makes the secret service want to talk to you. It is like being mad that the cops knocked on your door after bragging on Twitter about how much heroin you sell. Doesn't really matter if you are just doing it for attention, you knew the game you were playing.

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He could have had all the time he wanted for months and years before if he had been in touch with what his daughters were going thru. At this point it is just posturing.

@4, Oh I don't doubt that when the cameras are on people will act like animals and this particular case has taken horrid crimes and allowed one judge to hope the doctor would be raped in prison and now this. But the response of the father is very normal

40 fucking years in a mental hospital for a 12-year-old girl who non-lethally stabbed another girl? Isn’t that a bit harsh?

@3. He also had a 2015 album named “ISIS”.

But he “loves America”. And “knows what it is to be American”.

Hanging people in effigy is as American as the KKK. So American yes. What we’re about...not so much.

@9. The secret service investigated people who hung Obama and Bush in effigy as well. It’s just part of the job.

The “whole point” of free speech is to further new and useful ideas by dialogue and bring to light archaic and/or harmful ones for discussion to defend or discard

Burning stuff is for teenage sociopaths.

@9: I think I actually agree with you this morning.

Another groundhog day, another inaccurate prediction. Our forecast for next week is sunny with highs in the 50s. Thank you, science.

that jeopardy category was the best - I watched it with my mother in law. not one of the contestants knew any of the answers. high hilarity. I was LOL.

@12: everyone knows that the PNW doesn't count in east coast forecasting.

Punxsutawney Phil is throwing up a nazi salute, btw.

@9: Yeah, that is covered under free speech. Which is why he was not arrested, and is still allowed to continue doing such stunts. Try reading the article for once.

@7,

I thought that same thing. That's gotta be longer than Hinckley served doesn't it? Hopefully they qualify for some manner of early parole, or whatever MH sentencing equivalent exists. What a strange & awful scenario for absolutely everybody involved. Well done as usual, internet.

Always fun when Theodore shows up & throws a jab at German Sausage or Seatackled. Should keep this thread worth checking in on for another couple hours at least.

@16

Did you read the article?

@19: Yes.

I love reading the comments and think to myself.."this is how this all ends; hyper tribalism and general stupidity".

@21: How exactly did the agents terrorize or threaten her? You must have more information than the article states, as the article says they asked some questions, asked to search the house, which she allowed, and then left contact information.

The article states she was "rattled," afterwards (most people would be after talking with the SS), and is scared that he agents may close her business, which is a fear not based in reality. It never says she was threatened, terrorized, or harassed. The farthest it goes is to say the agents were "persistent."

Once again, you should just read the article, that way you would not have to make up the events in your head.

And I am absolutely not OK with the guy being arrested over this stunt. No need to make self-serving and stupid assumptions, although I do understand that without them, you would have nothing.

Yesterday, Teddy told us something happened that should make us believe Nunes despite his extensive record of lying. Has something happened? Teddy?

@22 imagine our surprise at the revelation that you think after all these years

@20

Good, so you can tell me if the article reported that the Secret Service actually had any contact with him at all. As far as I can tell, they just went to his mother's house.

Ted's favorite little rhetorical flourish- "you made that up in your head". Hey, that's cute Ted. And completely original.

@24: Post the statement I made that said the memo would make people believe Nunes. I actually said the exact opposite on multiple occasions, but at least you tried, I guess.

@26: What did they say, and how did they terrorize her exactly? What did the agents do that was out of line or against procedure? Make an argument as to why the article is false.

@27: Read it yourself.

@29 this is what you said in response to Comte's take down of Nunes' claims: "If you have decided that no matter what happens you are not going to believe anything that a republican says"

So what happened that should make us believe a Republican (Nunes)?

@14 And yet it's still newsworthy for some stupid reason... time to let this tradition die.

@23: Why are you going to such lengths to parse out some bureaucratic hook to hang your hat on instead of realizing the tactics of the SS left this family terrified for no reason?

I thought you had a 'William F. Buckley' vintage flavor of conservatism, who would have also been appalled at these Gestapo tactics of the Secret Service. Are you starting to slip into the abyss too, like Paul Ryan?

@30. You can read the memo and choose to believe it or not. (It’s all based on documented FISA requests)

One thing that remains to be seen is any other compelling evidence that the judge may have been presented during the request.

One thing that’s for certain is that the fbi kept renewing the surveillance at the same time they were aware that Steele was extremely biased and violating the media rules while being a paid informant.

That’s not nothing.

Let's do an experiment and say that there was no collusion between shithole president and Russia. Meaning, in all the connections between shithole president and his team we've come to learn about, both pre 2016 and post 2016, the US Presidential Election never came up and wasn't a focus at all. Everyone there? Okay.

Even if there wasn't collusion, is it acceptable for anyone, anyone at all, let alone individuals in US Government, to have ties to, no matter to what extent, with Russian oligarchs, Russian Mafia, Russian spies? Should someone ever be eligible to be an elected US public servant if you knew they had done business with someone who was mobbed up in Russia? This isn't a Democrat or a Republican question, it's a question about how seriously we take US sovereignty and the integrity of our country.

Who writes the laws giving generous pensions to elected officials? 'Ballot Initiative' never sounded so good.

Teddy has always been about parsing, and myopically ignoring context, and careful phrasing so that he can claim he didn't say what he pretty clearly implies.

Also, clever but laughably incongruent analogies. (See the comment above where he compares hanging a politician in effigy with bragging about being a heroin dealer.)

There are more trees on Earth than stars in the Milky Way

We'll see how long that lasts.

@15 muffy: That is truly a chilling image of Punxsutawney Phil, indeed.

@38 Irb: All the better argument for saving our trees.

@7 and @17:

You are both correct, and if you want to feel even more shocked and disgusted, read this article about the trials of the two girls. The one recently sentenced has schizophrenia, wasn’t given the appropriate meds, and was stuck in an adult facility. The first girl is the true psychopath and got off with a lighter sentence. The whole thing is such a tragedy and it’s shameful that no one seems to care anymore.

https://hazlitt.net/longreads/living-sle…