No, it isn't clear, obvious or scientifically based that a human without a penis and testes among other male attributes IS a male. Isn't it clear, obvious & scientifically based that Caitlyn Jenner never had a menstrual period or experienced a pregnancy or birth among other female experiences? And, doesn't she still have a penis and testes?
Dolezal has as much of a right to be African-American as Jenner has to be a woman at 66 y/o. Especially considering she (Caitlyn) is a father. I'm for the allowance of both.
she's the product of bugfuck insane parenting (they outed her), and has been attracted to Af-Am culture for decades. she has black kids. she has black adopted siblings (how this all started). she went to a black college in the South. by most accounts, she was a good at running the NAACP in Spokane, and I've not heard that her Af-Am history classes at EWU were suspect.
the key point is that she defrauded people. probably, by omission - not volunteering that she's Caucasian from the Idaho panhandle.
can you be trans-genetic (not trans-racial)? your DNA is specific, and you can't change it like your gender. It comes from Africa (in the recent past, obs) or it doesn't. I think the answer is "whatever, let her wave her freak flag, she's not really hurting anyone".
@6: it's usually "bougie", even though bourgeois has an R. troll accurately.
@26. She lost that job and her stature and livelihood in Spokane. What’s left to hate her for? She’s been thouroughly raked over the coals yet every time she gets trotted back out she’s vilified by the left.
You motherfuckers opened that door with the trans movement, but instead of making it about personal choice you threw biology out the window (made up your own to suit you)and made it a philosophical argument.
Now people want to walk through that door and you won’t let them? Explain how someone transitioning from black to white or vice versa infringes on your rights?
Barring fraud, it doesn’t. And if you were honest you’d admit that benefitting from this kind of fraud would be and is rare to non existent.
What you really want to protect is victim status. It’s precious. Not to be imitated or appropriated. But if gender isn’t real and everything is a social construct...you just look like a hypocrite when you say some people can come in from the cold of their inner turmoil, but not others.
@30. 29 beat me to it. How is misrepresenting your gender and getting a job that should be held by a woman any different than misrepresenting your race and getting a job that should be held by a POC?
@32: She sued a Traditionally Black College for racial discrimination based on the fact that she is white and stated in court documents that she has no African ancestry. She doesn't "believe" she's black, she just wishes she was.
I'm pretty sure there's no NAACP rule that says you have to be black to work there, and if there is, then shame on them, not Dolezal.
If she was doing a good job and was only fired for "misrepresenting" her racial background, then again, shame on the NAACP, not Dolezal.
Who exactly, other than Dolezal herself, was harmed by this media circus?
This turns out to be a thornier question than it seems.
Can you please explain?
No, it isn't clear, obvious or scientifically based that a human without a penis and testes among other male attributes IS a male. Isn't it clear, obvious & scientifically based that Caitlyn Jenner never had a menstrual period or experienced a pregnancy or birth among other female experiences? And, doesn't she still have a penis and testes?
Dolezal has as much of a right to be African-American as Jenner has to be a woman at 66 y/o. Especially considering she (Caitlyn) is a father. I'm for the allowance of both.
@1 has a point.
Because people hate those who actualize the fantasies the rest of us keep in our head.
Slog could be the vibrant, intelligent local forum it used to be before weaponized trolling.
she's the product of bugfuck insane parenting (they outed her), and has been attracted to Af-Am culture for decades. she has black kids. she has black adopted siblings (how this all started). she went to a black college in the South. by most accounts, she was a good at running the NAACP in Spokane, and I've not heard that her Af-Am history classes at EWU were suspect.
the key point is that she defrauded people. probably, by omission - not volunteering that she's Caucasian from the Idaho panhandle.
can you be trans-genetic (not trans-racial)? your DNA is specific, and you can't change it like your gender. It comes from Africa (in the recent past, obs) or it doesn't. I think the answer is "whatever, let her wave her freak flag, she's not really hurting anyone".
@6: it's usually "bougie", even though bourgeois has an R. troll accurately.
Who's this "we" of which you speak, troll-boy?
You motherfuckers opened that door with the trans movement, but instead of making it about personal choice you threw biology out the window (made up your own to suit you)and made it a philosophical argument.
Now people want to walk through that door and you won’t let them? Explain how someone transitioning from black to white or vice versa infringes on your rights?
Barring fraud, it doesn’t. And if you were honest you’d admit that benefitting from this kind of fraud would be and is rare to non existent.
What you really want to protect is victim status. It’s precious. Not to be imitated or appropriated. But if gender isn’t real and everything is a social construct...you just look like a hypocrite when you say some people can come in from the cold of their inner turmoil, but not others.
I’ll wait.
If she was doing a good job and was only fired for "misrepresenting" her racial background, then again, shame on the NAACP, not Dolezal.
Who exactly, other than Dolezal herself, was harmed by this media circus?