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1
"if his ass drips like a chocolate frozen yogurt dispenser in the back of Tastee-Freez in Texas in the middle a brownout during a heatwave".... no no no.
2
Ts; cr.

Too shitty, can't read.

(I guess I am squeamish about poo.)
3
WTF, guys? Care to explain? My husband also doesn't know how to clean his ass properly after taking a shit and neither does my dad (damn it, Mom, tmi. T-M-I!!!). But at least hubby knows how to take a shower and is clean then. I am guessing, if LW's hubby would like his butt played with, he probably doesn't suffer from irrational am-I-gay-if-I-let-something-even-remotely-touch-my-pristine-anus-panic.
4
Fold the towel shit side up and leave it on his pillow whenever he does this. This is just ignorant, hillbilly, Trumpish behavior.
5
Man, it really depends on how dirty. I'm sad to report that while my current partner doesn't have a dirty asshole... let's just says it smells more poopy than other people I've been with. I've never mentioned it or brought it up - I'm generally of the belief that sex involves some unpleasant odors, sights, and sounds, and for the most part, it's kind of a glass-house and stones type of thing. Me not bringing up someone's dirty butt is someone else not bringing up my sweaty crotch or messy bedroom or whatever other low-impact personal failing I have.

To be honest, I literally don't believe that there are more than a handful of total weirdos that don't wipe their butt because of gay panic. Certainly not a "subculture" of them - that sounds about as realistic as a "highbeam murder initiation" urban legend that was popular in the 90s.

Lastly, I'm not down with the bidet. I've tried it. My best friend (and men everywhere) swears by it. But I'm not gonna walk around with a wet butt, and "tamping" doesn't really leave me with the oh-so-fresh feeling.
6
@4: Haha, simple, vicious and quite likely effective (or at least emotionally gratifying)!
7
The husband doesn't think wiping his ass is gay. He enjoys anal play, for fucks sake.
8
@5 that being said - brown stains on the towel is definitely a bad sign. You're married, you have kids. You've had "let's be 100% fucking real" conversations with each other. You've seen each other in exceptional states of vulnerability. Have the talk. Be a friend and partner, but don't pull your punch.
9
When I started reading this letter, I thought gee, another rerun? Alas, no, this is not the letter I remember from just a couple of years ago, apparently lots of men are incapable of basic hygiene practices.

How do these guys get married without their girlfriend spotting this issue? How are they not grossed out by their own behavior?

ASSHOLE, be absolutely direct with your husband about what he needs to do in order to be clean. Have some evidence of his failure to show him so that this isn’t an abstract discussion. And think about enticements to get him to change his behavior (e.g., buying brown towels just for him that he will be responsible for washing along with his own laundry and/or getting separate beds so that his shit stays in his bed where he sleeps).

10
If he wants buttplay I doubt this is homo panic. I got nothing. Just good old fashioned denial?

This is more emotional work than just laying down the law, but if I were the wife I would be curious enough to ask gently, just what is going on in his mind with this? For science.
11
After shitting: toilet paper, damp toilet paper (run a little warm water on the wad in the sink), toilet paper again, repeat as needed.
In the shower: use soap and either your hand (wash extremely well afterwards) or a designated buttcrack washcloth.

It not only eliminates staining and reduces smell, but also prevents itching. Nobody wants an itchy buttcrack.
12
I'm gonna go full feminist harpy and say if he does the laundry half the time I bet he doesn't keep this up.
13
Install a bidet.
14
I supposed he has an embarrassing ailment--probably not colorectal cancer but definitely something causing fecal incontinence. His wife needs to have it out with him. The worst-case scenario can be the best-case scenario: they catch something serious and he gets it treated.
15
I'm going with the "not enough fiber" one. Maybe he just eats lousy food and it's causing a sort of perpetual runs. There's a ton of great tasting foods (fruits and berries, whole grain breads, pastas, cereals) that are high fiber. Easy place to start.
16
I've traveled in Europe and as a guy I can tell you bidets rock! OMG the best thing ever! I wish we had put them in when we remodeled our house...total oversight.
17
Such behavior as displayed by the husband is no small thing, I don’t think I could share a space with someone who doesn’t know better.
Some steps that help me maintain asshole cleanliness include excessive wiping after every restroom use, getting a soapy hand in there during shower, and wiping my asshole with toilet paper once I’m out as opposed to a towel.

I will proudly wear a “High Maintenance Hole” t-shirt.
18
Men do tend to have much more hair on their asshole (in general, obviously individuals vary greatly) and hemorrhoids are pretty common. If that is the case it does not take incredibly bad hygiene to miss a spot/fold/hairy bit now and then. It sounds like that is not the case here, but in general I would not assume any skid is a sign of rampant homophobia, medical condition or anything else. Just that they need to be reminded to do a very thorough job.
19
I’m here to echo @11 - is the discomfort of ripening mud butt not enough incentive to clean thoroughly? The mind boggles and breaks indeed...

Though it reminds me of a former European colleague who once noted “Americans shower every single day yet think it’s sufficient to wipe feces off their butts. Let me ask you this, if you got shit on your hands would it be enough to just wipe them on a napkin and say you’re clean?”
20
In strong support of the cheap, attach to your toilet bidet. It's very effective and an all-thumbs person like me can install it easily. As a single mom to two teenage boys, it has had a positive effect on my quality of life. My boyfriend also said "I love pooping at your house" which... :\ OK.
21
(1) have an open and honest convo demanding he also be open and honest
(2) seek medical consult if he is actually wiping himself carefully and fully
(3) trim his AH hair
(4) Tucks or even a flushable wipe
(5) he gets to do the laundry.
(6) maybe he's hoping she'll put him in diapers (afterall, it is a kink)?

The LW needs to get to the bottom (heh heh) of this. 😉
22
Maybe he likes poop play
23
@19 "ripening mud butt" lol
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@19 briavael: Showering every single day and using paper-only go together, it's not a weird contradiction. Change the latter and the need for the former disappears. Sometimes a shower is a crotch/butt zone wash, and probably adding underarms and feet while in there.
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"My husband is interested in being on the receiving end of more ass play, but I'm not game to put my tongue or fingers in an asshole that isn't even clean when its owner is freshly showered" -- so why not use the wet wipes on him any time you're down there?

You say he's a great partner. Talk it out, definitely, but be open to creative solutions, since you're asking him to address something that's not an issue for him.
26
Is obesity the problem? Can he reach in there?
27
I write this with tears running down my face. What the letter writer describes can actually be a very very serious medical situation. My husband always had skid issues; underwear, towels, sheets. I did the cajoling thing, the subtle and not so subtle hints. Even a direct confrontation brought "none of your business" and "everyone has this problem sometimes" responses. It came to the point that I figured it was a kink. Part of masturbation or something he felt he needed but had to hide. I decided to be understanding, and stop mentioning it because it wasn't important enough to fight about with my sweet magic prince. It was important. He never told me the truth until it was too late. He was struggling so hard to pee, that it sometimes made him lose control. It went on for years and years, he had the digital test repeatedly over that time, by a female doctor who dismissed the symptoms as regular aging. Stage 4 prostate cancer. In the bones, castration resistant. Please tell the letter writer not to ignore the medical aspect. He needs a male doctor, a regular baseline PSA test and an ultimatum. If I had known this, my husband might have had a chance to have it caught early enough. Thank you Dan for all you do.
28
#16 -- there's no need to wait for a full remodel to install a bidet. The really fancy Japanese-style models (heated water, warm air dryers, etc) do need an electrical outlet near the toiler, but the simple $35 ones like Dan linked to in this article are purely plumbing fixtures and can be installed by literally anyone.
29
While I don't doubt there are people out who are afraid of touching their assholes because they might catch 'the gay' I think it's more that like a lot of guys he's just lazy.

I mean who's willing to bet that he's never done a load of laundry in his life and the laundry he has done he hasn't really paid attention to it.

I get the feeling he's spend his whole life with either someone to clean up after him or with people who didn't care.

Dan is right. Stop pussyfooting around this LW. Tell him his ass is dirty and the skid marks on the towels have to stop. And if he wants buttplay then his ass must be shiny and clean or you aren't getting anywhere near there.
30
There's way fewer extremist homophobe men than extremist Worst Diet Ever men. Bacon, beef, french fries, beef. Zero variety. Zero vegetables. Forget about fiber, there are grown men who won't eat a vegetable. Any vegetable, at all. Unless you count fries, which you shouldn't.

Ever notice how triggered some guys get at even tangential allusions to the existence of vegetarians or (horrors) vegans? The throwaway joke in The Last Jedi about Chewbacca not eating that space chicken that one time -- that shit sends them into fits. They can't let things like that go. They eat bacon, beef and fries all day long, and their bowels haven't worked right in 30 years. And they are compulsively committed to it. They don't want to be even a little bit "vegan" by putting any kind of fiber on their plate, or cutting back on the garbage burgers and bacon they subsist on.

This guy's a perfect example. He wants ass play! He's cool with teh gay. It's food. Food is his problem.
31
Another vote for the Japanese style Toto brand bidet. They're expensive, but will make everyone's lives better. Water pressure and temperature control, warm seat, warm air dry. A pleasant WC experience for all.
32
First of all: DBurt @27 I'm so sorry for your loss.

Secondly: what the hell is this guy doing with towels? I mean, thanks to my mom (and a stay at their house when I did all the laundry), I know my dad leaves skid marks on his underwear. But how the hell could a skid mark make it to the towels? Is he routinely toweling between his cheeks? And making sure to get the towel really up there?
Because that just mystifies me.
I don't think this is toxic homophobia, but I do think it needs to be addressed head on.

LW, as Dan says, don't hint; be direct. And make sure his diet includes fiber and veggies. And tell him to visit his doctor and come clean (pun also intended).
33
Expert opinion, as someone with a father, brothers, and a long history of dating men: Skid marks are a largely male phenomenon. Don't know if it's because they're too lazy to wipe or because they're extra hairy and need to embrace the Brazilian wax ... but yeah, it's a guy thing. That Sex & the City episode where Miranda recoils at Steve's skid marks was dead-on. Figure it out, guys. It's gross.
34
I have a hairy asshole, and unless my poops are the exact right consistency, I pretty much have to shower after each BM. I'm pretty religious about it since it really bothers me both physically and mentally to have my ass-crack covered in poop (I have no fetish or affinity for poop at all. It's a fact of life, but I like my butt clean). I do need to install a bidet in our new house.

For some reason, my wife actually hassles me about the showering thing. I know she is NOT a fan of poop, but she keeps asking why a show is necessary (I take all of 60 seconds, it's not a real waste of time or water). I don't get why it bothers her, and she can't give a reason but keeps making comments. For me it's like this: Take some poop, smear it into the hair on your head up against your scale, then try cleaning it up with just dry flimsy toilet paper. Would you be happy enough with the result to walk around like that all day? For me, I want some soap, water, and scrubbing.
35
oops, meant "scalp" not "scale"
36
Oh for fuck sake! Why is this even an issue!? We Americans have a ridiculous poop phobia, that ironically results in a nation of dirty butt holes! Those flimsy little pieces of paper do nothing! The answer? Get your fucking hand and some water in there!!!!! After living in a couple of countries in South East Asia, I have to say that they are leagues ahead of us in butt hygiene. It's not rocket science people. Get over the poop phobia, and clean your asses! That is all!!
37
A plastic measuring cup or small pitcher of water, a hand-pump soft bottle and a small ass-drying towel, all in hand reach of the toilet, are nearly as effective as a brief shower, a little quicker, and use a lot less water.

Or get a mini trash can with a lid that seals excellently and some of the unflushable, unscented toddler wipes. (Guy likely does not want his butt smelling like perfume, or itching from perfume.)
38
Standard operating procedure at this house of men: shit, followed by dry wiping, followed by wet wiping until the paper comes off clean. The wet wiping is just three or four squares of toilet tissue with some room temp water squirted out of a bottle. Repeat as needed. Shitty holes are gross whether you have a girlfriend, a boyfriend, a handfriend, or no friend at all. And yes of course when you shower you make sure you clean up back there, then dry that hole with toilet tissue. It's not difficult. Who wants to use a towel with skid marks and spread that all over the rest of your body? I'd tell the LW to keep a pack of unscented wipes in the bedroom, hand it to her man and tell him to use it before he gets any action at all, nether or otherwise. And keep doing it until he absolutely gets the message about hygiene. Unless the guy was raised by wolves we can hope he'll eventually get there.
39
First, Gross, gross, GROSS!

Second, it might seems like a small problem now, but as you and your husband get older, it will become a bigger, and bigger problem. His muscles will get weaker and you will be too tired to keep washing his towels and undies and bedding after only one use! There are quite a lot of bacteria and viruses on feces, it's unhealthy to use towels, clothing, and bedding with poop caked on them! Also, you can get lots of - very painful - UTIs if the bacteria from his butt gets into and up your body during sex.

I agree that you need to talk to your husband and tell him you two must find a solution together. Be honest and tell him that you don't want to mess with his ass when you can't be sure it's clean, so no solution means no ass play or anal sex or whatever it is that he'd like to have more! This should motivate him to find out how to change this sad, SAD AND GROSS state of butt affair.

If he wasn't like this before you got married, have children etc. Then figure out when it started and what has changed? Is it diet? Maybe some food he's eating is giving him a lot of explosive gas, and the stains on towels are from the poopy gas spurting out while he's drying, and not because he didn't clean adequately during his shower. Get a check up, maybe he's got an infection or digestive system problem, or like the sad story from earlier poster about her husband. Is his anal and sphincter muscles working properly?

Tell him how much you love and appreciate him and your lives together, then get his diet and health checked out. Also a bidet if practical, although if he has digestive or gas problems, or won't use it, the bidet won't help.

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@34 I think it bothers your wife because every time she hears the toilet flush and then the shower turn on she’s thinking about how fucking dirty your ass must be/how runny your shit was for you to need a shower. Even if it’s not the case, the fact you take a shower every time and no one else does implies this to her. I don’t think it’s right necessarily, but I can understand it. Plus it probably makes her feel like you want her to be doing the same even though she feels fine after whatever it is she does after shitting. Just get a bidet.
41
Bidet or wipes, hemorrhoid cream if needed, arse Kegels and gradually increasing the fibre in one’s diet. The solutions are easily searchable. Why hasn’t OP’s husband already tackled this? Why has OP put up with it for so long? I’m utterly baffled.
42
Dear ASSHOLE- You've been hinting. It isn't working. Hinting rarely does. You say "I like using these wetwipes" when you want him to hear "You're not getting your ass clean." Instead, he hears "She likes using those wetwipes" and has no reason to think you're talking about him. Because you're not really. Try this instead.

"There's shit on this towel. I've been washing shit out of your towels for the longest time. It's gross and I hate it. You've got to clean yourself better. Do it with toilet paper. Glance at the toilet paper to make sure there's no shit on it before you get up from the toilet to flush and wash your hands. Then in the shower, separate your butt cheeks, wash your asshole with soap, and let the shower water rinse the soap off. Do you have a medical problem that's making you shit often and not clean? I can help you talk to a doctor if that's it."

You might be thinking if you're reading this that you couldn't possibly say that. This means you have a problem. If adults wipe their own asses, then adults use their own words to express themselves clearly. There's something really the matter when an adult woman is afraid to speak in plain language to her husband.

And now a word about wetwipes. No matter what it says on the package, those things are not safe to be flushed. They've caused huge problems in individual septic systems and city septic systems world wide. They absolutely must be placed in the garbage.
43
@35 you're doing the right thing. LW would love it if her husband was like you!
44
Not sure who is more pathetic;
dude who can't/won't wipe his ass
or lady who has to write an advice columnists to be told to tell him to wipe his ass.
45
It's the hair. You need moisture to clean up fully back there is you have a hairy ass, and in America, we don't tend to use moisture when we wipe our asses. Imagine trying to clean peanut butter out of a shag carpet with paper towels. It is not happening.

You have two choices: mitigate the hair, or add moisture into your routine, be it wet wipes (don't EVER flush these), a shower, or a bidet.

Second, if you are a guy with skidmark problems, stop scratching your ass through your pants when it itches. Go to a restroom and re-wipe. The itchiness is small amounts of fecal matter and sweat.

Lastly, the wife just needs to tell her husband that he needs to clean his ass better. His desire for butt ply is the perfect segue: "So if you want me to play with your butt, I need you to really wash up back there, and maybe get a shave/wax...for me (bat eyelashes)?"

@30: If the men around you get mad that vegetarians exist, or got mad at that Chewbacca scene (Can't say I have seen anyone mad about this), you really need to go find some sane men instead of the garbage you have chosen to surround yourself with.
46
My asshole cleaning regimen:

0. Asshole waxed, so no hair
1. Normal toilet paper after defaecating
2. Hand-held bidet shower thingy to clean asshole with water (something like this)
3. Dry with normal toilet paper (SL @5, why would you walk around with a wet butt?)
47
For pete's sake LW, google asshole-cleaning and don't bother us and take up irrelevant space in this sex/relationship advice column!
48
Wait, I take that back, sorry. Obviously being with a moron who can't keep his asshole clean is obviously a relationship issue. One that can be addressed:

Tell him to google asshole-cleaning or it's over.
49
As has been mentioned, I think that people would find their hygiene issues greatly mitigated by improving their diet. Simply put, when things are working smoothly keeping clean is easy without an involved regime. In addition, exercise should be mentioned. Body movement improves the digestive process, whereas sitting around all day inhibits the movement of material through your body. Lastly, some people benefit from amounts of probiotics, which can help keep the bacteria in the gut in balance, which also assists in digestion.
50
Some very pointed message for you LW, from your husband. Years of marriage, there are some built up resentments. Get him to wash his own towels.
Or he's working thru his bad toilet training days, when mummy smacked him for any shit play or soiled pants when he was supposed to use the toilet.
Or he's just one large bogan.
51
I once made the grave mistake of being in the bathroom while a boyfriend pooped (we did it routinely with pee, so why not, I thought). He folded some toilet paper into a square, then leaned forward in a half-crouch/lifted his butt off the seat and wiped repeatedly, with the same TP (i.e. not the wipe-look-fold-repeat method) NEVER. AGAIN.
52
We know that Dan has seen an uptick in letters, and we know that one guy said he wouldn't clean because real men don't spread their cheeks even for ordinary cleaning, but do we know who said it was because they're afraid that's a gay thing? I'm wondering if there might be another explanation, that maybe everyone jumped to that conclusion when it's really something else. This is pure conjecture here since I've never run into this before-- meaning I've never gotten that close to someone who insisted washing wasn't necessary, and I've never read about the phenomenon until Dan's column.

Maybe it's not a gay thing but toxic masculinity in another way. Maybe it's a conceit thing. Maybe it's guys thinking that they're so wonderful they don't have to put themselves out to please anyone, that it's demeaning to have to suck up at work and do what bosses tell them to so they're not going to demean themselves at home by trying to impress the women they live with. It might be pushing to see how much they can get away with, to see how much she'll put up with. A little self-love is great. That's what makes us willing to wipe our own asses when we're not willing to wipe someone else's. I wonder if maybe these guys have self-love to the point where they believe their own shit doesn't stink.
53
Another even cheaper but effective bidet: https://www.amazon.com/SmarterFresh-Pers…
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Also, if you want a bidet toilet get a Dr to write you a prescription for one to deal with anal issues, and you can pay for it with your pre-tax FSA.
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Nowhere @34: Have you told your wife you are taking a shower because it's the only way to effectively get your butt clean? As a smooth-arsed woman, she probably has no clue that toilet paper isn't sufficient, and thinks it's just a waste of water. I agree with the bidet suggestion, you seem the perfect candidate!

Commie @44: My vote is for "troll who comments on column from woman whose husband can't wipe his ass."

I agree with the butt-crack waxing suggestion. It'll be cleaner and it will also be much more pleasant for the wife to put her fingers/toys/tongue in there.
56
Another thought, I've heard that about fifty percent of people stand up to wipe. I don't know why they would do this, because don't your butt cheeks pull closer together when you're in a standing position? Ask hubby if he's standing up to wipe, and if so, ask him to sit down instead!
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Agree with the bidet comments (they are cheap- you can get one for under 50 bucks and install it yourself in your toilet very easily). Agree also that gay panic likely has nothing to do with it. Americans are weird about wiping after shitting. Over half the world uses water, and while we all think other cultures' way of wiping is gross, I think that just wiping with dry toilet paper is disgusting. In many cases, you are literally just smearing the shit around.

Wet wipes, fine, but if you install a bidet, you save on cost and waste. Also I wouldn't want to repeatedly flush wet wipes- hard on your plumbing- and it's gross to have a trash can of shitty wipes sitting there in your bathroom. Just install a bidet or a little hose and use water. Problem solved.
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A few more things...

I'd think that it's less to do with toxic masculinity or gay panic (though that might be the case for some dudes) and more to do with some men just generally thinking less about these things than women. Women have to do much more cleanliness care in general- wiping after pissing, more likely to wax remove hair, taking care to keep clean during periods, being mindful of the smell of the vagina especially since there is so much stigma there. I think likewise gay men are probably better in this way - even gay men who don't do anal douching themselves are going to be aware of it, etc. There's just not a similar expectation or practice with straight men- and I don't think it's so much because of toxic masculinity or gay panic and more just that they have a lifetime of not having to put too much thought into crotch/ass hygiene- regular shower and clean undies seems like the only requirement. So my guess would be that this man doesn't even know he's not properly wiping- isn't even thinking about it. It's not that he avoids it, just never thinks about it in the first place. Please note that the wife took the time to discuss this in detail with Dan but has apparently never discussed it with her husband which is really strange to me. If I had my face in my husband's crotch and I noticed a poopy smell, I would immediately tell him about it and suggest a shower. Maybe I'd be more discreet or say it in a more gingerly way with a new or casual relationship, but to be worried to mention this directly to your spouse?

It's especially weird considering that there is shit on the towels. This means it's not just about not wiping properly after a shit, it means that he's not showering properly either. But even still, Why is there shit on the towels? Even if he had shit between his buttcheeks, how would it get on the towels? Maybe I'm the weird one here, but when I get out of the shower, I don't spread my butt cheeks and rub the towel between them- do other people? I don't see how he'd get shit on the towels unless it's all over his ass- if there's just a tiny bit of post-shower fecal matter on his asshole, how is it getting on the towels unless he's literally wiping his asshole with the towel? And if he's doing that, then why can't he do that in the shower- spread cheeks and wash with soap and water like a normal person?

These are conversations the wife needs to have with her husband. We can only speculate. It's a weird situation all around.

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On the one hand, I've been as aghast as anyone at the apparenrly large number of men who are unwilling (or unable, perhaps due to gendered diet issues as suggested above, though the deep dive I did about when I found out about this thanks to that same linked BoingBoing post informed me that there are men who get plenty of fiber and still don't clean well) to clean their assholes.

On the other hand, so many of the responses I see (here and elsewhere) are ridiculously coprophobic. Some shit smeared on towels would give me pause for the hygene/poor diet/medical condition reasons, but not simply because there's a skid mark. Touch some poop, wash your hands; it's really not a big deal. Since I wash my hands after sorting and loading laundry anyway, exactly because I don't know what all has gotten on all the clothes, encountering poo doesn't even mean any extra effort.

Anyway, if dry wiping isn't doing a sufficient job for you, and a bidet isn't an option, grab a few squares of toilet paper, splash them with water and do some damp wiping to clean up.

On a tangent, looking into this phenomenon solved a mystery for me - why I far-too-often find the back/top of public toilets sprayed with shit. Apparently there are a bunch of men who think that sitting on a toilet ever is too femme or too germ-exposing to do and just sort of squat/hover instead. If they have loose stools or gas, they may wind up spraying the back of the bowl (and sometimes seat) rather than landing everything in the water. Granted, much of the world has squat toilets where that's just how they work, but we, in general, do not. So, pro-tip in case anyone reading is unaware: sqaut for squat toilets, sit for sit toilets.
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@EmmaLiz #58: I dab between my buttcheeks to dry between them after a shower, because I don't enjoy the sensation of a moist butt crack (my towels come away sans skid marks thanks to actually cleaning my entire corpus). I don't imagine such a practice is that uncommon, though it may be less necessary for people who don't have giant gluteals from biking everywhere or lots of adipose or somesuch. Were I (strangely) willing to wipe with a towel but not soap and water, I imagine that might result in shitty towels.
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So, pro-tip in case anyone reading is unaware: sqaut for squat toilets, sit for sit toilets.

When done right, sit toilets and squatting are not mutually exclusive. Google "squatty potty".
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"if his ass drips like a chocolate frozen yogurt dispenser in the back of Tastee-Freez in Texas in the middle a brownout during a heatwave".... Sheer genius, Dan!! I will never stop reading you, even when we are all so old our genitals fall off.

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