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Apparently that Trump tirade went on for a good half hour.
Not just a cutting remark, scornful glance or contemptuous comment but full-on humiliation.
Just love how these Republican lick-spittles come crawling back.
Ted Cruz, Jeff Sessions, Marco Rubio,Steve Bannon, Kirstjen Neilsen...they just roll over on their back and wet themselves and then plead to be petted again.
No pride whatsoever.
The current Republican party writ large.

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I guess 'not' establishing a home built in a river's flood plain is a lesson you can only just learn the hard way.

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I can't wait to become enraged every time I, a paying customer, has to wait for what feels like hours for a homeless person or Ave Rat to take a "shower" or finish shooting up then mosey out of a reeking new public Starbucks restroom. Fuck.

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Kirstjen Nielsen is racist, fascist trash and should be reminded of that fact every hour of every damn day.

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@3: If I owned a rival coffee shop, I would advertise this policy change in all the homeless encampments around town.

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@3:

Yeah, such an imposition when you probably have quick, easy, unfettered access to more washrooms and toilets than a feral cat has fleas...

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report says we need to spend $400m, so yea, let's cut the tax down to a point where it won't have any effect, that'll show amazon we really do like their balls.

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@5

You should open up a rival coffee shop right away and do exactly that. You will make a killing!

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@9: Oh come now, you know as well as I do that while white people love the ideas of such policy, the second they have to deal with the actual results they will recoil in horror and demand change.

I mean, why do you think that the first thing a white person (liberal or not) does when they gain wealth is immediately move to communities that are 90%+ white and gate themselves off from the rabble?

Besides, food service margins are razor thin. It is much easier for me to invest in index funds than the hassle and risk of opening a restaurant, even if I had any idea how to run a restaurant.

Currently at about a 14% return through a Vanguard Index, expense ratio around .05%

I mean, that's basically free money!

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@10

You've indicated you're white. Is that what you have done, or is that what you want to do--live in a 90%+ white community that is gated?

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@11: You know the best way to tell if someone is legitimately dumb?

They can't seem to think in any way other than concretely.

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@2 because of flooding, but a side channel migrating ~200' overnight in a developed area doesn't happen every year

Impressive video of the damage: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6h3sm2DJjao

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@Teddy

Yes indeed, concrete thinking seems to be your problem.

Rich people don't end up in neighborhoods that are 90% white because they want to live in all white areas, rich neighborhoods are majority white because the majority of rich people are white.

That should be simple enough to understand, even for you.

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@12

I dunno, it'd be consistent with your lamentation earlier this year that white youths are not instilled with white pride.

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@14: That's pretty funny. Do you actually believe that? You should read a book once in a while:

https://www.citylab.com/equity/2015/08/a-black-mans-journey-through-whitopia/401108/

https://www.amazon.com/Searching-Whitopia-Improbable-Journey-America/dp/1401322689

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And actually, I've encountered really smart people whom, I admit, I thought were dumb because they seemed only to be able to think concretely. But I learned later on that they had some form of autism. So I try to avoid making general statements about people in some passive-aggressive attempt to throw shade.

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@15: Haha, what? You can't be that desperate already.

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@Teddy

Do I believe that?

Yes Teddy, I believe in facts.

By the way, Kanye West is a wealthy black man, and he lives in a majority white neighborhood.
Do you think he moved there to get away from black people?
Now living around all those rich white people seems to have had an effect on him, as we've all seen recently.
That's not that unusual either.
It's actually quite common.

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@8

Playing whack a mole with public money is a bad idea.

Know a worse? Spending public money to build nice places for addicts and mentally ill people to destroy. And repair with public money.

The problem is not primarily a money problem. Solving a mental illness and addiction problem with housing money won't work.

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@19: Haha, "facts." Please, give me a link that factually proves what you are saying. Give me the facts that prove that white people move to white areas solely because of wealth and no other factors.

By the way, if you read the book I linked to (feel free to ever provide links to things you say), you would find your "facts" quite challenged by someone who actually did the work.

Your statement about Kanye West is too stupid to even respond to.

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@Teddy

"Your statement about Kanye West is too stupid to even respond to."
And yet you did.

By the way, I never said "white people move to white areas solely because of wealth and no other factors."
I said "Rich people don't end up in neighborhoods that are 90% white because they want to live in all white areas, rich neighborhoods are majority white because the majority of rich people are white."
And you are the one that threw out the 90% figure, without citation, not me.
I was going to let that slide, but if you want to be picky about it, feel free to give us a link.

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@22: Haha, that's what I thought. Absolutely nothing to show.

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@Teddy

Let me get this straight Teddy.
You want me to provide a link that proves that not all white people are racist.
Are you serious?
Don't you say that all the time?

I still don't see a link that backs up your 90% statistic.

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The black men in Philadelphia were waiting for a friend (and they were all going to order something when he got there). The racist employee calling the cops on them and having them arrested for existing while black HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH STARBUCKS' BATHROOM POLICY. And guess what, Starbucks, people have been using the bathroom for quite some time without buying anything. I waited in line at a Starbucks in Manhattan to use the bathroom because Murray's Bagels (across the street) doesn't have a bathroom. While in that line (which was LONG), it became clear a homeless person was using the bathroom to bathe and change their clothes while the rest of us waited in line. Everyone involved (ironically) was WHITE and not one thing was said to anyone about anything - buying anything or using the bathroom. And that was about 8 years ago.

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@13) Rare but not unheard of, and certainly something to consider when you are in a river flood plain. Where I grew up the local river flooded yearly, with a MAJOR flood every 5-10 years or so. Every 5-10 years the rich whites who built summer homes on the river cry for the government to do something for their underwater property.

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Am I desperate? Of course. But who wouldn't be desperate when they find themselves dealing with white nationalists/white supremacists who write things like:

"White people are the only people on Earth who volunteer to hate themselves and their history just because someone tells them they should. Hell, large numbers of them are convinced that they themselves are not even able/allowed to have a culture or national identity. It is a basically pathological."

https://www.thestranger.com/slog/2018/03/01/25869908/why-i-got-a-nose-job-a-scientists-confession/comments/33

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@26

Yeah, I was wondering what the bathroom actually had to do with anything.

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@26

The problem isn't with Starbucks, their employees, or their bathroom policy.
The problem is with the police.

Just because an employee calls the police doesn't mean the police have to arrest anyone.

Two similar incidents have happened at Waffle House within the past month or so.
Police were called in both cases, and in both cases the police used excessive force.

https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5af49d58e4b0e57cd9f7902f

Anthony Wall was choked by police when he was arrested at Waffle House.
Mr. Wall got into an argument with an employee and the police were called. Mr. Wall takes full responsibility for starting the argument.
Even though he admits the incident was his fault, there was no reason whatsoever for the police to arrest him, and there certainly was no reason for them to choke him.

In my opinion Starbucks is attempting to use this incident to generate positive PR.
Starbucks didn't arrest these men, and Starbucks didn't detain them.
The police did.
The problem is with the police, not Starbucks.
The problem with Starbucks is that they are attempting to use this incident to increase their sales.
Starbucks is trying to make money off the backs of these two men, and in my opinion that's not right.


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