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1

I'm totally on board with the signs.

Gun advocates can complain all they want, but a single sign is cheap, so no burden on the store owner (hell, I'd even be fine giving anyone who sells guns a voucher for a free sign), and it in no way hinders anyone from buying a gun.

2

The article states 146 firearm deaths in King county are responsible for $200 million in medical costs and lost productivity. How did they come up with that stat.

3

Well, I look forward to the civil and fact-based dialog that this proposed legislation will generate in the community.

@2: Average dead person would have earned something like $1m more during their lifetimes

4

@1 - But the signage will not prevent sales - hence it's an unnecessary expenditure imposed by government to placate delicate sensibilities. It doesn't solve any underlying problem in regard to murder, suicide, or mass shootings.

6

Sure. Can we also put signs in the windows of bars warning against the risk of unprotected anal sex?

7

@4:

Yeah, reminding gun purchaser that guns aren't toys and can lead to death - such a burden! I suppose we should take the warnings off packs of cigarettes, or containers of hazardous materials as well. I mean, people still buy Camels and bottles of pesticides and drain cleaner, so what's the point, right?

8

@6,

Of course you can. Just get a petition started and get enough signatures to get it proposed in the legislature.

That is, if you can find enough time away from feverishly masturbating to the thought of anal sex to get the petition started.

9

@4,
"But the signage will not prevent sales"

Oh yes it will. You think advertising doesn't work? Tell that to the multi-billion dollar advertising firms out there, as well as decades of consumer psychology research showing its influencing effects.

10

@5

Do you have an appropriate lock that you and no one else can open and are all the windows unbreakable? If so, then your house probably qualifies, so no worries.

13

Boo hoo. Boo hoo hoo hoo. It's so UNFAIR to Firearms. They're just tools that kill things!

Want a regulation that WILL reduce deaths? Take your pick:
1. 6 month waiting periods for all firearm purchases.
2. no sales to anyone under 21.

14

Eh, okay, but only if this leads to stronger systems against known violent gun owners, rather than substituting for that.

I dunno this is very effective as negative advertising goes. May even rally more paranoid gun purchases before the gun grabbers come.

15

"Want a regulation that WILL reduce deaths? Take your pick:
1. 6 month waiting periods for all firearm purchases.
2. no sales to anyone under 21."

How about mandatory 5 yr sentence for being caught with an illegally purchased firearm? 10 years in commission of a crime, any crime.

Or would that be inequitable and fire up the race and equity board?

Because that would really reduce gun violence but would also throw a sh*t of black and brown bodies into jai, but would reduce the majority of gun crimes.

16

" stronger systems against known violent gun owners"

Pretty sure they're in jail already or do the police just let them wander the streets?

17

@15 Current law provides for a 10 year sentence for illegal possession (Class B Felony), and up to 20 years for use in commission of a crime. What makes you think less harsh sentencing will result in a reduction of crimes involving firearms?

18

Regardless of how you feel about guns the WA state constitution is very clear on this point.

Counties and Municipalities can NOT pass their own gun laws.

Really just that simply.

19

@3
or sucked up $600,000 in public resources....

20

@18: Do you happen to know the particular bit that goes over this? I can't really research this at the moment.

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@22: yeah, it already passed the Council. you mean standing up to a court review.

@15: the gun violence I want to reduce are impulsive domestic partner killings and mass shootings. let's go back to my favorite whipping boy Allen Ivanov of Edmonds.

his GF Anna Bui dumps his loser ass, goes off to university. she's coming back for the holiday and there's a party he knows she'll attend. he goes to buy a handgun to kill her with, can't because he's <21. so he buys a semi-automatic Ruger AR-556 rifle and ammunition. he waits 3 days till he clears the background check, picks up his gun, puts it in his trunk. he drives to the party, reads the instructions in the car, loads the Ruger, hides until till some dude sees him, shoots that guy, kills Anna Bui, kills another guy. it all took 35 seconds.

now he's in prison for the rest of his life at 20. either one of those proposed regulations would have stopped him. your proposal wouldn't have done shit.

25

@24,

Yeah, that's a shit decision by a shit court in this shit country.

Telling liars it's a-ok to lie to people in order to spread your bullshit cult. Fuck the supreme court. Fuck the United States.

Tell people the truth. Guns kill people. Period. If you own one, you're more likely to be killed... most likely you'll be killed with the very gun you own. Statistics do not lie.

It's the fucking truth. Gun owners are scared of the truth. They can all go fuck themselves.

And this is coming from someone who's in favor of gun ownership! Yes indeed, I support it. I truly do not care if you want to own a gun. Dozens of guns. Assault rifles! Don't care! Do what you want! This is a free country! But fucking own up to the truth. Goddamn pussies.

26

That Amazon head tax? This is where that revenue goes. Seattle politicians spending money bashing their heads against the constitution and court system.


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