Do you need help understanding? They are Americans...

Riiiight. What do you wanna bet how republican "socialism" really works will be like Trumps "infrastructure" spending package — it will go to the Big Ag lobby first then trickle down to "farmers."

@1 buh... buh... buh... it's "socialism!"

“No one ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American public.”
H.L. Mencken

Worse, these exact same yokels are the ones constantly prattling on about individual responsibility and the evils of the “welfare state,” pull yerself up by the bootstraps and all that bullshit. Yet here they are slopping greedily at the trough.

@1: I do need help understanding. Are they "real" Americans? Or are they just takers, like inner city TANF and SNAP users? Is it just another IOKIYAR?

Welfare Ranching is a time honored Western tradition, Charles. It ain't new. Just ask the Bundys and Hammonds.

The eagerly treasonous Tdumbpnazis are AINOs, Americans in Name Only.

Charles, as @6 notes, we've been heavily subsidizing agriculture for well over 100 years now. This is nothing new, nor does the timing have any particular relevance.

In the coming months, we will most likely be spending a fortune in taxpayer dollars to address the huge surplus of cheese we've been accumulating. We do this every few years, it's ridiculous: https://www.usda.gov/media/press-releases/2016/10/11/usda-announces-plans-purchase-surplus-cheese-releases-new-report . Meat is in in a similar situation, as are a number of other agricultural products.

But they hate government, despise welfare recipients, and were promised economic prosperity by their white supremacist, illegitimate, treasonous, liar in chief squatting in the White House. How is giving the people he harmed with his tariffs welfare making American great again? They deserve to lose everything. They voted for him. His actions are harming them. He doesn't care. He just doesn't want to lose any of the people who stroke his ego. So tell me how this goes - how do these racist shit bags who hate everyone not white, hate government, hate welfare, and who expected to be made billionaires by their "political outsider" bat shit insane asshole of a "leader" reconcile taking handouts to prevent total financial destruction CAUSED SOLELY BY TRUMP?!?!

ha. What was that old saw about when people figure out they can vote themselves other people's money? Maybe one of the libertarians who hang around here can remind me.

@8, im well aware of this. but when do we ever have an opportunity to say: welfare cowboy? and there is not hiding from it.

It is good to be King.
aka suck it....

The "myth" of Republicans being financially conservative has been shredded countless times. But still, the next time a Dem is in office, they'll go on howling about the debt and out of control spending. It's not about government spending, it's about who or what we are spending on...

12

Ahhhhhh! Some truth. Finally. Here is the true Republican mantra.

Yes, welfare cowboy is a brilliant term and needs to be used frequently.

Btw. For added hypocrisy and irony this is through a New Deal program from 1933 Called the Commodity Credit Corporation. You know. The programs Republican have been cutting for thirty years.

Programs republicans always want to remind us we’re started by that evil socialist FDR. Who made America soft and dependent and who, through satanic luck, defeated their idealogical hero Adolf Hitler.

That reminds me. Some where there HAS to be an alt right sad puppy hammering out a slash-sci-fi opus alternate history where Ayn Rand and Hitler married and rule the world from a Nazi moon castle. If not I’ve got to write it.

High tariffs and subsidies. We're becoming Venezuela.

Oh yes indeed. This is worth remembering:

Socialism is a "dumb stunt" when it benefits people you find disagreeable.

It is good to see Charles understands this. It is a tremendously important insight, when combined with a bit of empathy.

Even the farm state Republicans are rolling their eyes at this one: https://www.thedailybeast.com/republican-senators-trumps-farmer-welfare-wont-work?ref=home
But as usual, they're going to do fuck all about it.

@18 But that's all socialism does. The political class serve out favors to their constituents. It's why Denmark and Sweden are about to vote in far right parties, that support the social welfare system. But only for "their" people.

That's why you should be a libertarian (or liberaltarian) and set yourself free.

@11 Got it: clickbait over substance.

Curious about the return on investment Trump expects from this—seems like more of a gift that a mid-term bribe. In farming communities I've spent time in, farm owners are basically the rural elite and generally despised by the average townsfolk. They're all voting Republican regardless, short of some enigmatic Libertarian superstar coming along.

“Socialism is a "dumb stunt" when it benefits people you find disagreeable.”

Point missing is sort of your idiom, isn’t it.

ObamaCare, a program crafted by for-profit insurance lobbyists, was laughably labeled “socialist.” And it was killed by these same goobers who will eat up any welfare program funneled their way as long as it isn’t labeled socialist.

So maybe you can’t appreciate irony.

But see what we want is shit that works. And certain sectors of the economy or certain short term patches to economic ills work really well or are solved really well at least partially socialized.

It would be nice if dipshits like you could actually acknowledge this fact. Instead or rhetorically wriggling around it and screaming “eeevil socialism is an evil slippery slope” like it’s a universal truth.

Which it’s not. For fuck sake the US military is socialist institution.

What we’d like out here in Reality Biased Land is some fucking recognition that maybe, just maybe, OTHER fucking people besides white hillbillies in Buttfuck Montana might need socialized systems and those systems also then directly or indirectly benefit said hillbillies in Buttfuck, too.

But no. Welfare is only for white people. Rich white people, preferably.

And the problem this “Farm welfare” is a result of is The Rights OWN machinations of stupidity. So these rural dumbfuck voted to fuck themselves with a mindless trade war. But then don’t want to suffer the consequences of their own ideology.

What’s that about “personal responsibility” again?

So LSS: The “bootstrap” mythology the right concocts for itself is BULLSHIT as demonstrated by this very form of welfare.

@24 - Perfectly stated.

(As an aside, I wish I could work for you!)

I'm a welfare cowboy
I strap on my gun and take what I want
Then drink whiskey till noon at the local restaurant
I'm a welfare cowboy
Everything under the sun belongs to me
So I can use it without paying. It's free
I'm a welfare cowboy

The government owes me a living it's in the constitution you know
Then I'll play with my horse at the rodeo
I'm a welfare cowboy
I'd graze my cows on the grass in Central Park
And drink whiskey till I'm drunk as a skunk in the dark
I'm a welfare cowboy
All of the land belongs to me
I'd shoot my guns in the air and be wild and free
I'm a welfare cowboy
Don't be surprised if my cows are in your front yard
It's part of the west so I'll play the "freedom" card
I'm a welfare cowboy
Take my gun from my cold dead hand
After I'm done destroying the beauty of this great great land
I'm a welfare cowboy
The good news is that I'm not black
So the local police won't shoot me like a terrorist or thug in the back
I'm a welfare cowboys

@24

Wowee, you sure do miss a point yourself there every once in a while, don't you?

How much emergency aid have we spent in Puerto Rico? Where is the crisis?

@20 hahaha. Could you be more of a sock puppet? Dude. That is one sad attempt.

First of all not a single rightwing candidate in Northern Europe is campaigning on repealing socialized medicine or social welfare system - for citizens. Dumbfuck.

Second. What they are campaigning on is immigration and good old fashioned racism. They don’t want immigrants and refugees to get socialized healthcare and assistance.

You show me ONE European rightwing candidate that is campaigning on dismantling the social welfare state and PRIVATIZING healthcare. Go. Find it.

Go on. Link to it. And I’ll show you a candidate that will lose.

Even Marie LePen campaigned on expanding socialized healthcare for French born citizens. If you’d even been to Europe you’d know that.

So. Man. You made it pretty easy to spot the fake account, dude.

@28 ... hah. I see what you did there you took what I said and flipped back at me! Almost like you couldn’t really think of what to write.

Well. I’m sure when you’re done with your Mudede Stalking/post-rageout juice box and chicken nuggets you’ll get right to the most cunty attempt ever at explaining what ever stupid nonsensical point you think you were making.

Take lots of time and all the words. I’ll be delighted to ignore it.

@25 your first job would be to stop me from wasting my time on Slog!

@5, @6, @7, @9, @22, @23, @24, and @26: Bravo. You all covered it beautifully.

@31

"Rageout," you say? My goodness!

Do mirrors break when you try to look into them, or something?

Anyhoo, do tell us more about "white hillbillies in Buttfuck Montana," I find your views there rather revealing.

(But don't bother re-reading anything I wrote after the bit of Muded I quoted-- I'm sure it couldn't possibly mean much.)

@30 can u read? Read what I wrote.

“Denmark and Sweden are about to vote in far right parties, that support the social welfare system”.

Well butter my butt & call me a biscuit, if it ain't that sweet welfare money! Shee-oot, boy howdy we sure do love handouts! Least it ain't gettin' around to any of them funny-lookin' immy-grants! Us good ol' (and I do mean OL') boys are born & raised on good ol' US soil! That means we speak American as we're on our way to spend the money them city folk sent us. Thank God I'm a country boy!

Just wait until Mudede finds out about the Farm Bill, and Earl Butz.

Farmers not cowboys. Metro's ugh!

@35 you are right. My bad. I read that as the opposite. I’ve gotten way too used to our I’ll-informed dipshit altright trolls of the American variety.