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1

This whole "plastic guns are undetectable by metal detectors" thing always makes me ask: yeah, but what about the metal bullets?

2

Well, remembering how employers treated job seekers (not to mention existing employees) from 2007-2010, I don't much care how they now are having their feelings hurt.

3

Moral of the story: don't pull an assault rifle on a cop.

4

@1: I have to imagine you need a few metal parts too, at the very least, a plastic firing pin is not going to do the job. Not to mention the fact that it is already easier, cheaper, and safer to just get a real illegal gun in America.

5

Ugh. Let's just take the CAD files for those gun parts, print and bind them, put them on library shelves, and have that fight.

6

I'm not too worried about ghost guns right now (for those that want an untraceable gun, there's much cheaper and easier ways to go about it).

Ghost guns are at the same phase as illegal music downloads were in the mid to late 90's. Yeah it was happening, but most people still had dial-up internet (if any internet at all), and it took tech savvy, money, and a lot of time. Still, it persisted and eventually took over with greater accessibility to internet access.

So yeah, right now ghost guns fall into the domain of a select few anarchists and assholes.

But give it time. If cad and cnc machining become an extremely affordable home hobbies, things could get very scary, very fast.*

*I'm still not sure the 3D printing revolution will ever take off. Internet, smartphones, etc. took off because everyone loves selfies, porn, Netflix, 24 hour news. I'm not sure 3D printing can ever provide the same entertainment or conveniences.

7

It seems that our AG is only invested in litigation at a Federal level that garners media exposure opportunities for him. Has he ever done anything to actually help our state in less sensational, but equally important, local matters?

8

If new workers are resigning before even getting started, then you're likely competing poorly and would be well off to make a better offer next time. I see nothing in the KOMO piece about the business offering above-average pay and benefits. People running businesses seem to forget all about free market concepts when it's them purchasing labor on that market. They choose a rate based on what they think they should have to pay, with little regard for where supply and demand intersect, and then throw up their hands in frustration when the precarious deal they arranged falls through. Boo-hoo.

If you have to flake on a friend, family, or some other personal connection, that's one thing. But on a corporation located 1000 miles away? It would be polite to let the person working on the hiring process know, but really, that corporation, as an entity, would eat you alive if that mean a net positive for shareholder value.

Unless it's very specialized accounting this company needs, the fact that they're not hiring locals suggests that they're low-balling, offering just enough that somebody, somewhere, is willing to seriously consider coming to work for them. It should be no surprise when a deal of that sort falls through without further pleasantries.

9

Printable firearms. I think that sounds cool if the designs are aesthetically appealing.

"Four men killed by King County police so far this year: The most recent man killed was 18." Age is irrelevant.

"He died during a conflict with a King County Sheriff’s deputy at Kent Station." "Conflict" is an understatement.

"The man had allegedly stolen a car and drew an AR-15 rifle when confronted by the deputy." So the plot thickens. It appears the criminal chose to get shot. It sad to see so many people choosing suicide by cop these days. Heaping that onto another person to carry for the rest of their life is a shitty thing to do.

10

Which local matters should he focus on, @7? Since he is the AG, he can't sue the state of WA. He can only sue or prosecute the people or corporations that are breaking the state laws or those that he can prove are harming WA. If you know of such issues, please call/email and request that he take action. Unfortunately, government officials might not know/notice illegal things are happening until they get complaints.

11

As always, @7 is talking out of his ass.

12

I was in IB and getting a 5 is damn near impossible. The tests are essentially pass/fail, and you’ll only get rewarded a 5 for something extraordinary. 4 is passing, which is really damn hard. After getting a 4 in a given subject, 100/200-level college classes on that subject are redundant and a waste of time.

13

@8: So ethics, morals, and good manners can be justly equivocated away if it fits into the narrative of big business vs. the little guy?

14

I taught IB classes and 12 is spot on.

7: His office's website lists a lot of the local causes/actions they've taken up. They do a lot of consumer and employee rights work, among other things.

15

@11: Thanks to hotheads like you that just simply bark, you actually provide pointers to the more interesting and provocative commentary in the thread for those scrolling through. Bless you.

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@13, i think its treat others how you wanna be treated, business and HR departments treat prospective employees like expendable dog shit. fuck feelings and manners when it comes to corporations,it aint worth a debate on morality.

18

If 3D printed firearms can compete with gun manufacturers the way music piracy competed with the recording industry, then we may just be able to disrupt the NRA's funding sources. Don't be surprised if there's a strong push against 3D printed guns by the right if this ever takes off.

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@15, good to know that that person is good for something.

20

Bob filing Lawsuits is not about what he feels is Right or Wrong. It's him setting himself up for a run for Governor, nothing more.

21

"What are the pros to 3-D gun printing??"

Well, it'll be a hoot watching youtube vids of dumbfucks blowing their hands off with poorly constructed guns.

22

I recall a John Malkovich movie, "In The Line of Fire", where he constructed a workable pistol out of non-metalic composite material in order to sneak it into a political event. He hid two bullets inside a "lucky rabbit's foot" keychain that he slipped through by putting it in one of those little bowls where you toss your coins and other metallic items before going through a metal detector. This was pre-911 of course, so those items would probably now be x-ray'ed, but I'm sure there are loonies out there already trying to figure out a workaround.

23

@8 Bingo. 20 or 15 years ago, when you interviewed with someone who ran his own business, or had some responsibility other than goosing some "metric", it was worth the effort to extend basic courtesies like writing thank you follow up letters/emails, giving some notice when you got a better offer, and so on. Now these actions are a waste of time. The only reason anybody with a job is talking to you is because you're somebody they can use, i.e., you are someone they can exploit. Any sort of human fellow feeling is wasted in such relationships.

I work in tech and there is zero pricing power for your labor now. I could ask for a few more bucks an hour for assignments even a few years ago. Now you just get hung up on, or "ghosted", if that's the term. I had one phone interview that turned on a dime into verbal assault by the (offshore) hiring person because I had the temerity to ask what the job paid. Attempting to negotiate the rate went downhill from there. Why the local company doing the hiring farmed it out to such an outfit I can't understand. Is everything a pump and dump scam now?

To @8's point: exactly. The free market cuts both ways. Treat employees like interchangeable widgets, and the employees learn to treat employers the same way. And why not? For jobs available to mortals, they are.

24

@23: So what's wrong with being magnanimous about it and placing a 2 minute call or email?

It won't kill the joy you have for ruminating and pouting over past employer grievances.

25

In addition, leaving employers hanging also hurts those other candidates who were told no and would have obviously been better employees.

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@24: I can't speak for Dex3703, but based on what he or she wrote @23, I believe the answer to your question is that he or she believes that nowadays the extending of such courtesies is "a waste of time" and, further, that "[a]ny sort of human fellow feeling is wasted in such relationships" as those between potential employee and someone whose responsibility is "goosing some `metric'."

27

Interestingly, the Stranger seems to do it's own form of ghosting. Here on the Slog you can report, presumably to the Stranger editorial staff, thing you might deem inappropriate. There is a section that says, "for a response, please leave your email address. I have done this several times and have never received a response. Is this Slog ghosting?

28

The misaligned balance of power is evident in the framing of this story. Consider, "when an accounting job opened at Best Plumbing, Shelden offered it to a candidate from St. Louis," (as written) vs. "when Best Plumbing wanted to pay someone to do accounting for them, they extended their search all the way to St. Louis before finding someone who was apparently able and willing to do the job for the compensation they offered," (as more clearly described). The former suggests that the company whose staff feel insulted by being stood up offered something out of generosity--that it is a "job maker" out there making jobs for people. The latter, that company did not offer enough compensation to get anyone within 2000 miiles of them to come provide the labor they seek.

There seems little reason for the hiring manager to take this personally. This is not a matter between him and the person in St. Louis; it is one between a business that makes low-ball offers for accounting labor and somebody who agreed--likely reluctantly--to move halfway across the country and do it, then changed his or her mind about the wisdom of such.

Yeah, it would have been courteous to let the company know about it, but how much obligation for courtesy do we impose on someone in that circumstance? Also, the accountant was seemingly ready to pack up and move thousands of miles to make this happen. Other than the opportunity cost of calling off the job search for a few weeks, what did the business have on the line? Was housing lined up for the job candidate? Was an up-front hiring bonus paid? Did they have a contract outlining everyone's obligations? Paid flight(s) and movers lined up?

If this was, in fact, a small business that deserves person-to-person courtesy, then they should be complaining about the dismal state of interaction between more typical businesses and people those other businesses hire leaking into their world, not about the fact that their tenuous transcontinental agreement fell through without so much as a phone call or e-mail.

29

There is a desktop CNC router available online. It only cost $1,500. It can be used to fabricate a receiver that will turn an AR-15 into a fully automatic machine gun.

30

@4
The Liberator, which is a plastic 3D printed handgun, uses a nail for the firing pin.

31

So, any comment on the guy who runs the Abbey in LA and his boyfriend getting thrown off an Alaska Airlines plane so a straight couple could have their seat?


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