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Yeah, a la Hail Mary, propel her to run against Trump in 2020 and watch what happens.

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Voters aren’t....

“Bernie Sanders is sputtering.

Two years after his defeat the 2016 presidential primary, the Vermont senator has amassed a growing string of losses in races in which he has intervened. Beginning last year, Sanders-backed candidates faltered in an Omaha mayoral race and a nationally watched House race in Montana.

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Then came Rep. Tom Perriello’s loss in Virginia’s gubernatorial primary, and in June, the drubbing in Iowa of Pete D’Alessandro, a top adviser to Sanders during his 2016 Iowa caucus campaign. Cathy Glasson, endorsed by Sanders’ successor group, Our Revolution, fell short in Iowa’s gubernatorial primary, as did Peter Jacob and Jim Keady in two New Jersey House races. Dennis Kucinich lost in Ohio.

Tuesday night brought Sanders and his army their latest blow, with a pair of high-profile losses in Michigan and Kansas.”

Politico

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@1: You have to be 35 y/o to run for president. She'll only be 31 in 2020.

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@4 Gives her enough time to find Israel on a map.

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She doesn't need to be president, just a person who is fighting for poor people in congress. Everyone else seems to be about the rich, the banks, Big Pharma. It's getting a little old.

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Lets check the old slog and find out which poster pisses themselves when they hear Spanish at Walgreens or a brown kid knocks on their door to sell them candy bars.

Yep, that's about what I thought.

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Gimme a TLDR. Since her election, I haven't seen a single positive thing about her - either her plaintive whining that it's unfair that someone wants to run against her for her seat, or embarrassing gaffes that put into question the breadth and depth of her knowledge. Is she anything more than charismatic, energetic, and able to spit out the sound bites that her base likes?

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Ha Ha Ha... All of the candidates she endorsed failed last night! The woman is poison to the Dems! Please give us more of her!!!

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@10, James Thompson and Rashida Tlaib both won last night......

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Let's just hop Corbyism and the subsequent antisemitism doesn't find it's way across the pond with this new crop of Democrat activists.

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@8,
You pose a pretty good question. While I wish Ms. Ocasio Cortez well, I know very little about her and probably won't go out of my way to find out more (The Congressional district she is running for is in NY state).

Hoopla aside, it just occurred to me that there is a strong(?) chance she will lose the general election. Yes, I get that it is an overwhelmingly Democratic district and she won the primary over a veteran MC, Joe Crowley. She is quite lovely and seemingly sane. But, she is very much a political novice. My goodness, she's a mere 28 y/o! Her GOP opponent, Anthony Pappas a professor doesn't appear to be inspiring but now could be a much more serious contender. Also, what if it is a 3-way or more race on the ballot? Crowley and others could be write-ins. Wouldn't votes for her be depleted?

Sure, she is the current favorite in a heavily Democratic district. But, she must do her homework and be ready. I believe she really was surprised when she won the primary. Now, it's the general election. It's still going to be a fight to win it all.

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@15, if you genuinely think you could lose her general election, then I'm sorry you are just bewilderingly ignorant. What makes you think her GOP opponent could be a much more serious contender? He's an old white divorce lawyer running in an overwhelmingly minority district that went for Clinton by 57 points.

You say you know little about her, but also that she's not doing her doing her homework and isn't ready? Asinine.

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@16 She'll lose because Crowley is still running (as and Indy), and he expects to soak up the 17% of the voters who went R last time around, easily covering the narrow gap between him and Ocasio-Cortez.

This is something one should probably be aware of before accusing others of asinine ignorance.

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@17, lmao there is no way she is going to lose. You should go on PredictIt and put some money on it, you could win big if it happens.

Also, Crowley is not running as an independent, he is on the Working Families Party ballot line, as he received their endorsement in the primary and NY has fusion voting. It doesn't matter though, because AOC is going to win, and bigly at that.

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In other news Swamp Drainer and the first GOP Trump ally, New York Congressman Republican Rep. Chris Collins, was just arrested and indicted conspiracy, wire fraud and insider trading.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/new-york-congressman-chris-collins-indicted-on-insider-trading-charges/

Just look at that swamp get drained!

But I guess the real problem is a novice democrat.

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@17,
Thanks. Precisely my point.
@18,
I'm not predicting. I am merely posing scenarios of election dynamics. Stranger things have happened. Remember Donald Trump defeated Hillary Clinton in 2016.

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@18 @21 the better example is Joe Lieberman, who lost his Democratic primary in '06, but ran as an independent and won. And yes, my bad, Crawley is running on a small-time ticket, not as an independent.

But I imagine he's not doing so out of vanity, I assume that, like Lieberman, they've done the internal polling to suggest he'll win the general election as a compromise choice. If you're that confident, @18, why not put your own money on the line?

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Watch this analysis of Ocasio-Cortez's understanding of her own professed economic-political beliefs. Interesting: https://youtu.be/QsLFYK59C5Y

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@22 No, Crowley is on the ballot because he was endorsed by the WFP and their endorsements end up as their "member" on the ballot line whether they win the primary or not. He said they can't remove him from the ballot line, but he has already conceded and endorsed AOC.

You told me not to accuse others of ignorance, but you're making that difficult.

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Just want to say that every time Fox or the View or some other segment airs her platform, thousands of people join the DSA. Conservatives keep reading her platform like it is some frightening thing, but it's actually been great publicity for her. And Rashida Tlaid won last night as well. For those of you who are just now paying attention, the candidates endorsed by DSA, Our Revolution and Justice Dems did decently welll in the last years' elections as well, especially in local races. And let's keep in mind that we are really not even two years into this movement yet.

I don't think it's the answer to everything, and also I think AOC herself is pretty flawed. The point isn't about personalities but rather about A) getting money out of politics, B) the freedom A gives you to run a platform that actually reaches previously disaffected voters. This is the only possible way for the Dems to counter the GOP at all. I don't know if it will be successful- it might be too little too late. But it's the only possibility. The alternative is to run centrists on corporate money in the hopes that mythical swing voters in the suburbs will suddenly vote for them because algorithms told some DNC asshole that this was possible.

And Sporty, you don't know what you are talking about here. Unless she gets herself into some wild scandal between now and November, there is no way she's going to lose. Crowley had the endorsement of the Working Families Party which is a socialist party itself back before they knew who AOC was. Since she has won, they have rescinded their endorsement of Crowley and he says he is not seeking the seat. But because of bureaucracy, his name will be on the ballot as their candidate unless he moves out of district.

So the only possible way she could win is if a majority of Democrats suddenly vote for Crowley on a third party ticket against the Democratic candidate, and I don't see why they'd do that since he already lost against her once. Unless you think this district is going to suddenly flip to a Republican district which is not going to happen- that would be unheard of. I don't know why in the world you think that the 17% of voters who voted GOP last time are going to vote against the GOP candidate in November in favor of a Democrat running on a socialist third party ticket.

It's funny to me the way people are flipping out about this as if it hasn't been going on for a couple years now. But for those of you who are happy it's happening, me too and glad to see you! :)

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obviously should say "so the only possible way she could NOT win..." blah blah blah

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Revolutionary @ 5
I would actually find it refreshing to have a non-Israel-centric candidate.

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@CMD

I can't be certain of Revolutionary's intent, but the context is that AOC had, as a candidate, condemned the Israeli slaughter in Gaza and supported the rights of Palestinians to equal citizenship, and then, after winning the primary, immediately backtracked, apologized, and said she actually just doesn't know much about Israel and will have to look into it.

She's obviously a breath of fresh air and a much better candidate than any establishment Democrat and has a genuinely populist platform, but it was breathtaking how quickly she picked up the establishment line. I think it was within 24 hours of her win.

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A strong and young clear minded woman, looking out for others. Yes please.

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The paradox of the commenters is fascinating. When Dan posts neoliberal BS about Susan Sarandon or Russia, the progressives attack. Now Dan has is refreshingly supporting a progressive, and it's fresh meat for the Blue Dog Republocrats.

By the way, those "realists" who say we can't afford the "free ponies" that are actually centrist pillars of normal countries (health care, college, strong banking regulations, paper ballots that actually get counted and can't be hacked), just a reminder of something that Rachel Maddow never reported.... Last year the Dems overwhelmingly sided with Trump and the Republicans to give Trump an extra 80 BILLION dollars a YEAR for military spending. Nobody said, "Who's gonna pay for that?"

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So many holes to plug Xian-Qi, a bit of powerful news is not to be turned down. It’s the Women who will strongly help turn this.
American Women. They Rise!
I watched in awe at the power of American Women back in the 70’s.

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@33 LavaGirl, totally with you. The thing that's unfortunate is that the DNC establishment gets right behind the white male candidate whenever a female and/or minority progressive is the challenger, which is one reason why progressives are not rising so fast in the primaries -- the DNC shovels money and support toward whoever gets the big-money donors, usually the old white men, like Joe Crowley. Democrats talk a good game when it comes to supporting women and minorities, but they don't put their money where their mouths are. But I'm thrilled about AOC and she's gonna win in a landslide.

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She is destroying the Democrats with her socialist fever dreams. She is probably funded by Trump and the RNC to make Democrats look bad. Socialism is the herpes of our party and will guarantee 8 years of Trump.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2018/08/10/fact-checking-alexandria-ocasio-cortezs-media-blitz/

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Democratic socialism combined with ecological awareness is what is needed now. Unethical capitalism serves the few and is Destroying Our Planet.


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