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Why does the PNW insist on ruining beer?

@3 -- Yeah, no shit. Cloudburst makes good beer, and the folks who make it are really nice (according to the brewers I know -- I don't know them personally) but the tasting room is a dive. Not "industrial boring", like most breweries when they start out, but dumpy. As long as you know what to expect, I guess it is cool. But I was pretty surprised, since they can certainly afford to spruce it up. I think they just don't give a shit.