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This is what it looks like when 'You cannot be civil with a political party that wants to destroy what you stand for'. I expect this to get much, much worse before anything improves. Antifa is as much to blame as anyone.

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The Proud Boys goal is to provoke violence. It's akin to yelling "fire" in a crowded theater.

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yawn. All these folks (left and right) need to find better hobbies.

Heard a funny joke though, what's the best way to get rid of Antifa? Get rid of the fa.

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@2 Fuck yourself with that jab at Antifa.

The Proud Boys (what a stupid fucking Peter Pan-esque name) are a domestic terrorist organization and should be treated as such. However, the Left in America will ultimately fail to curb their activities as most lefties who go out and demonstrate lack both the physical and mental capacity for street violence. Skinny vegans that subsist on kombucha vapor and plant shadows will never stand a chance in fisticuffs with these meat-eating troglodytes. Go to the gym you twiggy hippies! Fists hit land harder when they have weight behind them!

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@5: Antifa is actually categorized as a domestic terrorist organization by the US government. This classification was being used when Obama was president, when the DHS came to the conclusion that they were the primary instigators of violence at public rallies.

Just putting it out there.

https://www.politico.com/story/2017/09/01/antifa-charlottesville-violence-fbi-242235

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Dudes in the streets with masks obviously this group over here are righteous and correct and those dudes over there scum of the earth. Couldn't be more clear, folks; couldn't be more clear.

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I think it just takes an adult to see that there is one group marching to impose their will on people, and one opposed to that will being imposed.

Not complicated. But it banks on this notion of tolerance for the intolerant, which is a trap the left walked itself into. We can always walk back out.

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I'll listen to bitching about Antifa when Elizabeth Hokoana is punished for shooting Josh Dukes 19 months ago in Red Square. As far as I'm aware, she hasn't even been banned from UW's campus.

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@5
Antifa is nothing but a bunch of violent, lawless thugs.
America's brown-shirts today.

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@13

You're irredeemably idiotic. Does us all a favor and fight oncoming traffic so we can be rid of your digital pollution, permanently.

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@14
Hey…. I’m 100% in favor of Antifa having a strong street presence. The more mobs of armed, masked thugs the youth wing of the Democrat party puts in the streets to terrorize voters between now and the midterms the better!

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Hey, @3: you should look up the source of that stupid canard before using it as justification to curtail political speech. Here's a hint - it had nothing to do with actually yelling fire in a crowded theater, and everything to do with putting socialists in jail for sedition for opposing American involvement in the first world war.

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I notice you never step up to the plate.

How much you wanna bet Sausage Guy never ever ever calls anyone a racist or nazi to their face....prolly fear of getting his head caved in. But on internets, he will run his mouth.

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"A Flash March for Law and Order"? Olivia Benson wouldn't be caught dead with this crowd.

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Stop covering these people. They're a bunch of self-loathing losers who can't get laid and unite under the principle of not jerking off. They feed on attention, positive or negative. IGNORE THEM.

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@18: thanks for the civics lesson. the UW ban for firearm possession on campus is not dependent on a criminal conviction, it is an administrative review per RCW 34.05.

the wheels of justice are turning very slowly for that RWNJ.

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Man, some people sure are obsessed with German Sausage.

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@18 I'm sure you'll be taking a principled stance on legality by law when it comes to other cases, correct?

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@10 we haven't decided that, obviously. We give legal deference to physical instigators ALL THE TIME.

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@13/@15
Sure both parties have their faults, but do you really believe that republicans have a sincere plan for the betterment of our society? Are you just against taxes? For anything? For the rich?

I just don't get it. I'd love a clear explanation about why I should vote Republican if I care about my neighbors and the environment.

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@28
Honestly, I consider myself conservative and libertarian but not a Republican. I often (but not always) vote Republican because I believe they more frequently share my primary interest in maximizing personal liberty and that the best way to accomplish that is:
1.) A literal, and narrow, interpretation of the constitution.
2.) Minimizing taxes and regulations.
3.) Less government is always a better solution than more government (and, by the way, I work in government).
They are very far from perfect, but the best option for me most of the time.
I believe the freest society is ultimately the best society, and the US Constitution is the best framework available for a free society.

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Everyone in this story sounds dreadful and I definitely wouldn't lunch with any of them.

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Yes, "clean up the streets," instigate, dole out punishment by beating the stuffing out of those you disagree with. Just like Jesus taught. Amen.

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@31
What part of “We’re not here to punish them. They have a right to be here as long as they are not being violent. But if they want to attack us then they are going to feel the pain” confuses you???

Perhaps if Antifa hadn’t violently attacked them with PEPPER SPRAY first you might have a more credible position. But there is nothing remarkable in anyone responding violently to being PEPPER SPRAYED.

I can only assume they thought some PEPPER SPRAY would send the PBs running and crying (like when it’s used by cops on Antifa and the Snowflake Brigade). They seem to have missjudged their adversaries.

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The correct way to deal with groups like the Proud Boys - which actually would have been the right strategy with Trump - is to ignore them. They want a reaction; it re-justifies their purpose for existing. Once you engage, the cycle perpetuates itself. Antifa wants the same thing. I get it - it feels good, I’m sure, to punch a nazi; but once you buy into “us vs. them,” it’s the start of a slippery slope to civil war, which is precisely what the Proud Boys wanted in the first place. The sad thing is - the thing driving this need to take sides is really the onslaught begun by Fox News, which took mild disagreements with so-called liberals (really, the meekest most harmless creature ever bred) and turned them into a drumbeat of “your way of life is under attack.” All so an old Australian dude could get rich. What a fucking waste.

Fuck the Proud Boys and Patriot Prayer, and fuck Antifa for taking the bait.

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@33, "so-called liberals (really, the meekest most harmless creature ever bred" are the people in our schools indoctrinating young people into believing they are transgender, for example. They may have noodle arms, but they are dangerous to Western Civilization.

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@34
The intellectual decadence and moral decay of the Libersls and Progressives has done this nation more damage from within than any enemy from without could ever hope to achieve.

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@29 What about environmental regulations? Do you believe in climate change? Even if I was socially and fiscally conservative I would feel uncomfortable with lifting environmental regulations.

Thank you for answering me. I am legitimately curious. I'm a liberal and it can be very hard for me to understand the point of view.

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I’d love to see the Police kick the shit out of all of these morons.

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@34 - No one is indoctrinating anyone into believing they’re transgender. That’s not how being transgender works.

@35 - What damage do you speak of? Violent crime is down. Economy recovered under Obama after the crisis and continues to improve under Trump. Do you mean gays get to marry now? Oh no, the horrors! The only moral decay I see is a president who has made bald-faced lying a totally acceptable strategem.

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@35 - And while we’re on the subject of enemies from without, what do you consider Russia interfering in our elections? Is that moral decay, or is it okay because liberal threat > Russia?

Ever met an ex-KGB agent (assuming you aren’t GRU yourself)? They don’t have a moral to decay in the first place.

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@38 I don't think the dystopian world @34 imagines is quite true, but there is something going on. I want to say I read that something like 90% of trans and binary-identifying students were 'assigned female at birth'. My own pet theory is that A) "Non-binary" generally means dressing like a particular type of fistidious man (fully buttoned button up shirt, coiffed hair, etc) and B) the prevailing narrative is of patriarchal oppression of femininity, so adopting the appearance and mannerisms of non-feminines/specifically masculine is attractive and a form of anti-patriarchy signalling. I don't especially think this is about gender identity and the spectrum at all and would say, to the extent we see this more now that we did twenty years ago, it's a social phenomenon rather than a biological one.

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@40 - When you stop telling people they have to conform to one of two rigid standards, they do what feels right to them? That’s not moral decay. That’s freedom.

If that’s the scary threat all the conservatives have mobilized against, I guess they missed that whole bit about life, liberty, pursuit of happiness blah blah blah. The founding fathers forgot to include a provision banning womenfolk from donning pantaloons.

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@41 I was speaking towards the indoctrination angle, not implying it was a sense of moral decay. It's an odd position to simultaneously argue that gender expression is so meaningless that it has no long-term impacts on someone's life (the logical extension of there-is-no-harm-in-someone-else's-gender-expression) but also is serious enough that it must be acknowledged by the greater society and laws should be rewritten to commit that acknowledgement.

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So you can believe this biased article or you could click on over to the Proud Boys website and see what for yourself what they are actually about: http://proudboysusa.com/

The Proud Boys are far less politically extreme and far more racially diverse than the idiots who show up at their events to attack them, as is obvious by any of the videos of their events. There continues to be violence at Proud Boy events because antifa goons in black ISIS costumes show up and throw rocks. No antifa, no violence.

True, they had some white nationalists in their ranks initially but they have removed these guys because that is not what the organization is about, which stands in stark contrast to organizations like BLM and the Womens March who continue to happily include anti-Semitic Louis Farrakhan supporters, racial separatists, communists and anarchists.

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@43 - I’ll believe this article.


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