Sorry to Bother You Is Too Real (Not Surreal) for the Oscars



Or maybe it’s just not that good of a movie...


It just seemed really polemical and amateurish as far as filmmaking goes, I don't think it was snubbed for politics.


@1 you clearly didn't see it.



Correct. But that is irrelevant.


Over the last 25 years the rate of extreme poverty has dropped by nearly 50% worldwide - in Asia, Africa, India and in many other developing countries around the planet. The reason? Capitalism. Since China, a crushingly Marist and impoverished country, began embracing capitalism, extreme poverty rates dropped by nearly 80%. Ask the average Chinese whether they prefer capitalism to Marxism. I have. And guess what?




I think the movie was excellent, but it had way too much swinging horsecock for the Oscars. Also: @2 is right. The Oscars aren't about art or filmmaking, they never have been.


@4 I saw it. I liked it. But I didn't think it was this breakthrough or very thought provoking. In fact I'm hard pressed to remember that much about it nor did it stir any serious thinking in me, unlike say "Get Out."

But why do this every year? Get all up in arms over a stupid meaningless back-patting ceremony. So what if this movie or that movie doesn't get nominated. It means literally nothing except to a tiny percentage of mostly already well-to-do celebrities. It's complete waste of time.


@6 That statistic is misleading and incomplete.

Because it isn't JUST capitalism, but also a whole host of OTHER enlightenment age innovations as well like: labor rights; environmentalism; women rights; and of course the scientific method which brought forth two centuries of technological advancement previously suppressed by a thousand years of religious zealotry.

Without the enlightenment you would simply have wealth concentration, mercantilism and a new form of feudal oppression.

Capitalism is fantastic for certain levels of innovation an wealth creation. But it abysmal at wealth distribution or innovating where there is no understood immediate profit (healthcare, research science, environmental protection).

And there are many, many shades of prosperous social innovation between total capitalism and total Marxism.

For instance at least the Chinese have socialized medicine - ask them if they want to keep it socialized or switch to an expensive poor performing system like our abysmal privatized system?


@1 As a movie, it's groundbreaking, in ways that the nominated black movies (Black Panther, Green Book) are just warmed-over Hollywood Formula that don't speak to the future in any meaningful manner. It's one of the fifth best films of this century, absolutely better than a majority of Best Picture nominees.

I like Boots a lot (and not because we shop at the same Target, which we do), even though I'm a "center-leftist" Dem. Unlike the SJW left, he doesn't create fake narratives to rationalize his beliefs - he is just up front with his beliefs. I have come to respect honestly - especially unflinching honesty - above almost any other personality trait. Boots isn't even charismatic, he's shifty eyed like Nixon was. I'm not surprised the Academy isn't showing him love - but then again, he doesn't show them love, so it's all fair. This is like Bernie people complaining that the DNC froze him out after Bernie had spent two decades criticizing them, or like me trying to ask BiDanFan for a date.


Since Yanis Varoufakis thinks The Matrix is a documentary, Sorry To Bother You must be a live newscast. Got it.


No surprise the Academy froze out Boot's film: It tends to shy away from films (regardless of how good they are) that display strong political content, particularly films that critique present day capitalism.

I like Spike's films, but I believe he got nominated because taking a pot shot at an overtly racist group like the Klan is shooting fish in barrel; Which is not to say that the Klan shouldn't be condemned, but it's easy target that doesn't point directly at the Plutocrat PTB's like Boot's film does.


This is how Varoufakis laid out his argument in 2015: “‘Machines have acquired the governing power over human labour and its products’, was the way Marx described the ‘rise of the machines’ as a cross between an ancient Greek and a Shakespearian tragedy that evolved against the background of an industrial revolution in which the few owned the machines and the many worked them. Marx’s point was that, in the universe of capital, we are already trans-human. The Matrix is no futurology. It has been part of our reality for a while now! It is a top-notch documentary of our era or, to be more precise, of the tendency of our era to bleach out of human labour all those characteristics that prevent it from becoming fully flexible, perfectly quantified, infinitely divisible.”

And this is how Charles described Varoufakis’s argument in 2015: “The new finance minister of Greece might have a point, but some thought on the matter soon reveals that it's not a very bright one—we are, it seems, condemned to rebel for the benefit of the system. It's also a very strange (and an almost spiritual) reading of Marx's controversial theory of labor, which claims that all value in capitalism is derived from labor.”

Now it is proof that Sorry To Bother You was (too) real.

It’s turtles all the way down.


@14 Typo — Varoufakis made his argument in 2013. Mea culpa.


2018 was a great year for film but the best of 2018 was Border, which was submitted as Sweden's entry into the foreign film category and, apparently, not chosen.


The most realistic plot point: Chadwick is struck in the head by a can tossed by an anti-capitalist protester; at every point our hero is told her deserved to be hit in the head and that's a whiny bitch for complaining about it. That's real as hell.


@17 slave and arms dealing scabs deserve cans to the head, but I'm not surprised at the position you're taking


I still laugh every time I think of him rapping at the party. And the idiots all around him rapt with attention.