I'll take Twitter seriously when they ban Trump for hate speech

Oh for fuck sake. You understand this deliberate "malignant compliance" on behalf of Twitter, right? This is their petulant way of saying "see what happens when you try to stop Nazis! It's PC gone made, we tell you! It's simply unpossible to have free speach and responsible speech!"

This is being done by a lazy algorithm that casts a deliberately wide net. It's not human moderation.

They don't want to pay for humans to moderate their platform. And Jack Dorsey doesn't want to top hate speech because he's a white supremacist fellow traveler.

@1
Hate speech/Evidence? You decide

I think maybe I wouldn't pick this particular hill to die on, if I were Neiwart.

If I saw that klan-star as a user avatar anywhere on the internet, I'd probably skip reading whatever was next to it anyway. Even if the guy is on the side of the angels, that image comes off as a deliberate provocation, and the last thing the internet needs right now is more provocateurs.

Jesus wept, shit like this is largely WHY I avoid Twitter altogether, and am considering abandoning Facebook, as well.

@5 I forgot my Facebook password a while ago and every time I get 2 steps into retrieving it, I think "why?" and close the window. Also, if you're not a regular poster, their algorithm is set up in a way that renders you basically invisible, so if you're on the fence about whether or not you will find it useful in the future I'd just go ahead and accept you'll forget some birthdays and shut it down.

Since everyone funny is leaving or has left Twitter already I can't for the life of me think of a use for it.

I've never had a twitter account and from what I've seen, I don't feel like I'm missing anything. It seems like an attention whore paradise. But then, so does facebook, instagram, and whatever the kids are using these days.

Actually, I take back what I said @1. Instead, they should ban everyone EXCEPT the hate speakers and then make a new reality show about it. Merica! Fuck yeah!

I do not believe twitter has an algorithm that spots kkk-hood-stars and flags the account.

This was human action, in favor of the alt-right.

This reminds me of the anti-fascist doughboy dust up.

Anyone who doesn't clearly see that cover as an anti-racist statement is too stupid to wipe their own butt, let alone decide who should/shouldn't be allowed to use a platform.

We clamored for them to give us a button to easily report offensive speech and then our ideological opposites starting pressing that button to report our speech. No one could have predicted this outcome.

Furthermore, every. Single. Complaint made on Twitter has to be viewed by an actual person.

What happens is someone in The Philippines, India, etc. looks at it and, along with the local chain of command, does as they see fit.

You have to make appeals up the hierarchy to get someone in the non-developing world with contextual understanding.

For instance, I once offered someone a refund outside of my usual paid platform because there was a bug - if you provided a refund it negatively impacted your job success score.

Not right, obviously. Why give a refund if you’re gonna get fucked twice?

So, this hit me once, and when it happened again I offered a refund via PayPal.

Algorithm finds PayPal, girl in Philippines does her job, suspends my career and account.

I talk to to them, say “I will not do this again”, and my account is reinstated. I then explain the context to them.

It gets sent to HQ, the bug is fixed, my score is restored.

In all honesty I’d expect them to have fed old black and white images of the KKK into any prospective recognition software, not stylized happy kkk hood.

Distance between eyes relative to nose width/length ratio. Spots a nazi a quarter mile off.

Gotta head to Irvine and sue someone soon ;[

@7,

That's not a bad idea, though I'd like to see it taken a step further. If someone launched a social networking platform that banned all users outright, I think I'd probably be inclined to join.

Once more: private companies have no obligation to protect speech. One day you'll finally get it.

Yeah. Odds are he was banned because the KKK is bad.

@7

There are already like 5 Twitter clones that do exactly that. The reality show is just a matter of time.

@13

There are already like 5 of those, too. The one with the best name (imho) is "Binky."

Wait, isn't this exactly what the regressive ideologues want? Context and nuance are irrelevant, if something -can- be interpreted by someone as hateful, it has to go! Live by the sword, and all that.

“YAAAAAS go Twitter! You’re so woke and cool and progressive and- wait WAIT NO STOP what are you doing I’m one of the good guys!! I have a BLUE CHECKMARK next to my name and I retweet Ta-Nehisi Coates! WHYYYYYY???!!!”

Oh the humanity.

RIP Helldude

@14 She'll no more understand or respect what a social media platform can choose to do with their property no more than Mudede will ever understand the stock market. This is just another one of Herzog's outrage posts. You don't have a constitutional right to Twitter or Facebook just as when the Jehovah's Witnesses knock on the door you don't have to let them so they can state their case. If you want to change them organize a boycott against the platforms. The platforms are about money and not speech. I'm more concerned with what happens when/if the government imposes rules regulating the content.

Stop depending on massive tech giants to be your daddy and protect you from the world, and you don't have to get massively butthurt when some algorithm does not do exactly what you want it to do.

Kady Herzog is the patron saint of intellectual dishonesty. Note how right at the end she conflates “Human or algorithm.” No competent human acting in good faith Could make the mistake of kicking this author off Twitter. But jack dorsey and Kati Herzog want fascist propaganda to be propagated on Twitter, because that is who they pal around with. And besides, jack makes a lot more money if he doesn’t have to hire human decision-makers to police his swamp. So Katie’s dishonest screed serves her right wing friends and helps jack dorsey make more money. Win win for the slime merchants. Stranger, you can do better than this author. She should be banished to crawl back under a rock with her friends.