@1:

Depends, do you drink wine?

3: Everything is on the table to gun nuts but actually keeping morons and loons from acquiring weapons.

"Plastic straws are recyclable " [Citation needed]

Hasn't El Paso suffered enough without having to deal with white supremacists flocking there to praise their visiting deity?

@3

Red flag laws and Universal background checks are both great examples of common sense gun control.

I'm a little surprised that you keep posting this pro gun control article, but I'm glad to see that you're spreading the word that Common Sense gun control could help prevent some of these tragedies.

El Paso shouldn't let Trump land until he's paid the half-million dollar tab he ran up for his last Nuremberg rally there. It's past due and racking up late fees.

Someone forgot to tell the world that white trash mass murderers with guns are the “good” kind of terrorists, since they’re enabled and supported by Prezirapist AntiChrist and the RepubliKKKan party.

Foreign countries issue warnings to their citizens about ‘indiscriminate’ US gun violence

Japan, Uruguay, and Venezuela are just the latest in a list of countries warning their own citizens about traveling to the United States because of gun violence and mass shootings. France, New Zealand, and Germany have previously warned about the dangers of gun violence in America.

“Given the impossibility of the authorities to prevent these situations, due among other factors, to the indiscriminate possession of firearms by the population, it is especially advisable to avoid places where large concentrations of people occur, such as theme parks, shopping centers, art festivals, religious activities, gastronomic fairs and any kind of cultural or sporting events. In particular, it is recommended not to go with minors to these places.”

Researchers at the Institute for Economics and Peace create the annual Global Peace Index, which measures peacefulness in nations and regions.

Out of 163 countries, Iceland ranks number one. Afghanistan ranks last at 163. Canada ranks number 6. Honduras ranks 123.
The United States ranks 128.<

https://www.rawstory.com/2019/08/gun-society-foreign-countries-issue-warnings-to-their-citizens-about-indiscriminate-us-gun-violence/

El Paso just needs to scream 100 “heil $hitlers” then fully supplicate themselves before Emperornazi No Clothes, and they’ll be praising him and the RepubliKKKans for the opportunity to be mass murdered along with their children in a hate-crazed splatter fest anytime they walk out their front doors, just as the baby Jayzus commanded. Culture of life, libtards.

@8 - The El Paso killer slew 21 people in 30 seconds. Try pulling that off with a knife.

If you like a word with lots of guns in it, just say so. You needn't go to the trouble of contriving all this bullshit to dress your preferences up as principles.

the remaining freedom fighter is once again stepping on his shitty trail of guns.

Slog keeps referencing the ballot boxes exclusively, but can't the ballots just as easily (or, in my case, even more easily) go through the mail? I see nothing on the envelope that says to not use the mail, it even points out I don't need to affix a stamp.

david- who said you're not?

@18: Yes, you can just toss it in the mail, no stamp needed. The Stranger is more into the spectacle of the drop boxes though, so that's what they write about. Wouldn't hurt for them to mention at least once the percentage of ballots received via drop box vs percentage mailed in.

"McDonalds [sic] did away with its recyclable plastic straws"

Would it have hurt to have stated it was the UK McDonald's that did that?

@16 Neo-fascists are de facto pieces of shit

@10

Your post #3:

https://www.seattletimes.com/opinion/we-can-manage-shooting-threats-with-analytics-and-protocols/

An (not the) answer to domestic mass killing (domestic terrorism).

From your link:
"If the scenario meets a certain level of risk based on established criteria, police would have the ability to temporarily remove and or prevent the purchase of firearms and ammunition by the person making the threat. This could be through a process similar to the Gun Violence Restraining Order in California, or other means. A firearm restraining order empowers law enforcement to take action when probable cause to arrest may not exist."

Removing guns from individuals and preventing the purchase of firearms are both forms of gun control.
By posting that link you are advocating for gun control, whether you realize it or not.

Even you believe in common sense gun control.

@1 do you drink wine, or use anything with olive oil?

Then, yes, be concerned.

@24, Canada still exists. It's not a colony.

If you want to restore the salmon all of the dams on the Columbia river will have to be torn down, there really is no other way. As to other water issues, most of the U.S. west was settled because of dams providing reservoirs. The U.S. government wanted to claim the West so they had to settle people there so hence came the dams; northwestern Mexico got screwed in the process. With the world continuing to overpopulate there is no solution to the water shortage

@14....Last summer a wildfire killed over 100 people. And while it is blamed on an electric transformer foul up it could just as easily have been an arsonist with a social grudge.

@23:

"If we are assigning blame based on political ideology then Warren and Sanders have blood stained hands as well."

I guess that makes you an asshole then...

@23

"Still, contrary to the explicit anti-immigrant purpose of the El Paso shooting, police do not know what motivated Betts to open fire early Sunday morning in a popular nightlife district in downtown Dayton."

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2019/08/05/us/connor-betts-dayton-shooting-profile/index.html

This shooter didn't leave a Manifesto telling us why he committed his crime. The shooter in El Paso did.

Elizabeth Warren isn't advocating violence.

Donald Trump is advocating violence.

@23 Your brown shirt is showing, doofus

Too bad we don't have Slog Happy's any more. I'm sure all of you are just delightful company!

I keep reading on here that the Dayton shooter was "a leftist." I've not put any real effort into reading anything about that horrible shithead, though the reports on the radio are stating that he brought lists of women he deemed deserving of being raped & assaulted into school with him. So if he was a gun loving potential rapist, I'm gonna go out on a limb and suggest that he wasn't leftist-ing very well at all.

@40

It's still gun control.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/06/us/red-flag-law.html

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2019/08/06/748607679/lawmakers-push-for-red-flag-laws-to-take-guns-away-from-people-in-crisis

If you support ERPO you support gun control.

Love to log on just to read the "Criminals don't obey laws so we shouldn't have laws" hot takes.

@40

"...the NRA opposes any effort to create a federal ERPO law, in which federal agents would be tasked with seizing firearms after a hearing in federal court."

https://www.nraila.org/get-the-facts/emergency-risk-protection-orders-erpos/

The NRA believes erpos are gun control.

ERPOs are common sense gun control. If you support ERPOs you support gun control.
I support ERPOs, and so do you.
Welcome to the Gun Control Club.

@44 the NRA is open to red flag laws

https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2018/03/19/594919524/nra-signals-openness-to-gun-removal-laws-with-conditions

@45 "There are countries that have lots of guns yet have low rates of gun violence"

where guns are properly regulated. The US ranking along with failed states complete with paramilitaries running amok (Afghanistan, Honduras, etc) hardly means what @39 claims.

what would be helpful is having Republicans stop their opposition to gun research.

@46

The NRA is against red flag laws.

The NPR link you provided is from March of 2018.
The link I provided from the NRA is from January of 2019.

From the NRA:
"In addition, the NRA opposes any effort to create a federal ERPO law, in which federal agents would be tasked with seizing firearms after a hearing in federal court."

@32 Jesus loves you. Everyone else thinks you're an asshole...

@38 There was reporting on the CNN this morning about since deleted posts on social media. Apparently it was far left, anti police, pro Antifa. He can't be too much of a leftist as he wished Biden would die and kept hit and rape lists while he was in high school. It's seems to be more of a left wing facist similar to Nazism or Peron than a progressive/liberal. In Hitler's case he professed to be a socialist but his actions were authoritarian right wing. In that instance you were allowed the socialist benefits of the society only if you were Aryan.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/05/us/connor-betts-dayton-shooting-profile/index.html

@51 Oh for fuck sake. The Nazis were not "leftwing."

Hitler outlawed all the various socialist and communist parities. They persecuted, jailed and murdered leftists, liberals, socialists and communists. They outlawed all labor unions excepting the Nazi "union" which then forced everyone to join and forced pay cuts and wage freezes allowing the ownership classes and capitalists to maintain profits in every major industry.

As a result of their ant-union stance the Nazis were underwritten, sometimes funded, and supported by dozens of major industries in Germany including Bosch, Blaupunkt, Daimler-Benz, Demag, Krupp, Henschel, Junkers, Messerschmitt, and Siemens. Hitler also got rid of almost every anti-monopoly regulatory law and authority to ENCOURAGE monopolies and cartels to further gain favor with industrialists and capitalists.

And Hitler privatized all the banks that had been nationalized under the Weimar Republic among a thousand other things that no "leftist" would do.

So. The word you're looking for is "nationalist." And guess who else is a nationalist?

Trump.

@49 "But in recent decades the US has seen an increase in guns per capita combined with fewer homicides per capita."

This is a confusing use of statistics and terminology "per capita." I really wish people would understand the difference between "per capita" and "rates."

Th fact is the gun ownership RATES have fell between 10%- 40% from 1978 to 2016 deepening on the poll. As in fewer households are buying guns — fewer people total.

CITE: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/06/29/american-gun-ownership-is-now-at-a-30-year-low/

CITE: https://news.gallup.com/poll/1645/guns.aspx

CITE:

Even the typical "at risk" populations in most major cities are acquiring fewer guns.

But Gun sales spiked significantly from 2008-2016 (and ironically fell after Trump was elected). Because the SAME people are buying more guns. The fact is a small minority of Americans own most of the guns and are massing arsenals. The average gun owner owns like 6 guns. That's the average. (And in those regions where we see this happening we DO see moderate increases in suicide and domestic gun homicide).

But one contributing factor the slow steady decrease of the gun homicide rate is indeed that there are gun ownership is declining.

@52 Socialism can exist with or without liberalism and even within fascism. Call it right wing socialism if you prefer. The Nazis were socialists in a way that only benefited Aryans. I made that point pretty clear (and you conveniently left out where I referred to them as facists). When you look at the benefits received by those in the privileged class it looks a lot like modern day socialism. The Perons worked in a similar manner using social justice as one of the tenants of their platform/method of ruling. This sort of conservatism uses a premise that the classes are obligated to help each other out. In Hitler's case it only applied to Aryans. In the case of Peron or even Bismark it applied to larger parts of the population. Though both of those were post Marx he would have probably termed it as bourgeois socialism. I agree that Trump is a nationalist in that sense (and racist) but I also think he's a facist. Though not quite sharp enough pull off much of an overt change but his behind the scenes and reg changes are damaging enough.