I am utterly overjoyed that Kids and Gummo are both unstreamable. They are both unwatchable. Garbage in, garbage out folks.

I saw "Kids" when it was released. Indeed, it is a downer of a film. It's both unrealistic and nihilistic as well. One of the actors (he portrayed Caspar) committed suicide. It's directed by Larry Clark. Read/see the picture book "Tulsa" (1971) about heroin addicts in Oklahoma. When you do you'll easily comprehend how dark his work actually is. Very disturbing.

Also, I've yet to view "Gummo". The reviews were mixed and largely negative. One comment, while I get your dig at Trump ("Trump's America") it's important to note that the film was written and produced during the Clinton Administration. Fair enough, it might be America now but it was certainly America then.

kids that young do drugs, have sex and rape. It’s a reality and at the time not much other stuff talked about that reality. It’s gross and a downer and it served a purpose.

In what universe is Kids a "boys will be boys" movie? Only a liar or someone with a degenerative brain disease could possibly write that

I'm with @1.

Kids isn't meant to be redemptive. It's a realistic look at certain type of shitty boys of a certain time and place. They are contemptible creeps. Doesn't work to view this film through a millennial justice lens and then feel.disappointed that the bad guys go unpunished.

On another note the u streamable movie Straight to Hell might interest you two. Joe Strummer, Dennis Hopper, Grace Jones, Dick Rude, Elvis Costello, Courtney Love, Jim Jarmusch punk rock spaghetti Western. There is coffee addiction. There is a weiner boy, and he is coerced to sing his song. Potentially the high point of Gen X art and culture, which is saying very little to be sure.

@6 I'm fascinated that you think KIDS is about a certain type of shitty boys of a certain time and place. Those shitty boys always existed and they still exist now. Ever heard of Brock Turner? If Millennials are disappointed that the bad guys go unpunished, how are they different from anyone else? There's no justice in the here and now anymore than there was then.

and Straight to Hell is 100% pure trash, certainly no high point of any art and culture, certainly not Gen X (though I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and read your comment as sarcasm).
If not, I propose actual high points of art and culture Gen X (film related) would be more like:
Boyz in the Hood or Do the Right Thing

There are many movies that, decades later, I'm still sad about wasting my time seeing. But there's a special few that I'm still actually angry about.

KIDS is a CBS After School special with actual cussing and fucking, dressed up in the prettiest shot framing and lighting you ever did see. It had two purposes: secondarily to scare the living daylights out of any parent who ever made the mistake of seeing it (mission accomplished for my parents, thanks heaps Larry) and primarily to let Harmony Korine get his rocks off by making a group of non-actors mouth his maturbatory fantasies about white boys acting badly and getting away with it. It's "Reefer Madness" for the AIDS era, with a veneer of competent cinematography.

For me the defining moment of KIDS wasn't the rapes (although those were awful and any sane viewer would be 100% justified in noping out instantly) but the ludicrous power-trip fantasy where Korine's dirtbag self-insert character murders a black kid in the middle of Washington Square Park by beating his brains out with a skateboard. Everything you ever were going to need to know about Korine's, and I use this term advisedly, oeuvre, was on display right there.

Fuck Larry Clark, fuck Harmony Korine and fuck KIDS. That it's apparently going to be buried in Harvey Weinstein's tomb is almost poetically appropriate.

You know what I'm not fascinated by @7? Your hcp disorder.

I recognized my own teen hijinks in Larry Clark’s movies, right down to the guy who earned the nickname “Dr Strange” as well as a ferocious beating for performing gyno on passed-out girls. However, unlike the movie “Rivers Edge” that included Dennis Hopper’s character which was true to my own teen experience, Larry Clark movies always omit the Larry Clark character: the old chickenhawk creepster who inserts himself into every group of throwaway kids. The quick, utterly gratuitous crotch shot of Bijou Phillips’s Daisy Dukes in “Bully” says all we need to know.

"Straight to Hell" is kind of a (purposeful) mess. A better Alex Cox example of Gen X art and culture is, of course, "Repo Man."

"the old chickenhawk creepster who inserts himself into every group of throwaway kids." Oh isn't that the truth.

@12 Repo Man is a classic! Great soundtrack

Don't talk shit about Harmony Korine just because you are a dochebag with no life! And I just watched Gummo streaming from some sight on the internet. It's the internet..you can find anything. Dumb ppl..

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