Liz got to use all her nasty carefully rehearsed lines, good for her.
It doesn't change the fact that she is down and soon to be out.
But expect to see her sharp tongue prominently featured in GOP ads roasting the eventual Democrap nominee.

@1 Don't you have remedial 7th grade Math homework to catch up on? The light in your mother's basement must be terrible.

Go, Senator Elizabeth Warren and #46, GO!!!!!!!!!!

@2
oh you poor dear
Bernie is the Peoples' Choice
start getting used to it.

This hurt his feelings so bad he had to get his Fake Video Krewe to push out a fake video that turned his 1.5 second pause into a 20 second pause so that it seemed Bloomie was hitting the marks instead of getting sliced to ribbons on stage.

Which is, of course, illegal in this state and this city, but Bloomberg doesn't care about laws, like the fake Billionaire Trump.

Warren (finally!) came to Life last nite.
Refreshing to see her tearing new assholes.

Perhaps 'Pocahontas' also had /has some words of Inspiration
for Cadet 'I-was-also-Impeached, Too!' Bonespurs?
That I'd love to see...

@3 Doofy and @4 Bernie bro: Oh, that's right. No wonder you're both so clueless. You've been rotting in the dark for decades. Still waiting for the return of coal?
@5 Will in Seattle: Yep. I caught that, too.
@6 kristofarian for the WIN!

I haven't watched the debate yet, did the whole night go like this?

On race in America:

Bloomberg: "If you took everyone who made mistakes, no one would be left"
Warren, who was a Republican back when Hillary Clinton was calling black people superpredators, raises her hand.
Sanders, known famously for photos being arrested as a protestor for the Civil Rights movement, also raises his hand

Moderator, who knows both of these things: Senator Warren, you may respond.

I think Warren's strategy has changed, and I agree with it. At one point she was focused on Sanders. This makes some sense, since that is who she aligns with most closely from a policy standpoint. She soared when he sank (following his heart attack). But it is clear that most Bernie supporters aren't going anywhere. His supporters are also extremely loyal. I also think there are lots of voters who don't care that much about policy, but just want to win. Many of these voters originally supported Biden, and much of Bloomberg's support is based on the same idea. Since Bloomberg can spend billions being elected, the idea is that shitloads of money alone is enough to win. Warren not only destroyed that notion, but she can also make the case that she is -- if nothing else -- pretty badass on the debate stage. She is likely to pick up votes from people who don't care that much about policy, but think she has the best chance of beating Trump.

I can also imagine several scenarios in which Warren eventually wins, despite not getting a plurality in the early contests:

1) She sticks around long enough, and then something happens to Sanders. Maybe he has another heart attack, or says something stupid. Much of his support would then go to her, as long as she hasn't spent the last few months attacking him. (To a large extent, this was Bernie's strategy last time. It was obvious he was going to lose the race half way through, but stuck with it in case something happened to Hillary Clinton. Something did happen -- fucking Comey -- but that was just prior to the general election.)

2) It becomes a two person race between Sanders and Warren. Warren would then be seen by many as the more palatable alternative to Sanders and the one more likely to win. Even though they have a similar approach to various issues, she has the good sense to say she believes in a free market, while he calls himself a socialist.

3) It becomes a three person race with Biden, Sanders and Warren, and you have much the same scenario. At some point, even if Biden does OK early on, he is likely to screw up, making Warren the only sensible option to nominating a socialist.

Just to be clear, I think Sanders has a pretty good chance of getting elected. But there are lots of people who don't think so, and Warren could easily become the only alternative to the man who has to be considered the front runner right now.

Ms Grizelda - If I may offer a word of caution, remember last time how Mr Savage made the error of being seduced by the thought of all those Republican tears he was going to drink.

Wise advice @11. And also, always remember this old proverb: if you dump your husband for relentlessly trying to jam his huge hog up your ass, then you might end up drunk alone on 3am.ob weeknights.

Honestly Ross I'd be extremely surprised if she has a come back. She should have stayed this course before Iowa and NH where she could've had a strong base. I don't think there's much she can do to increase support in NV & SC (the next two contests) and so by Super Tues this extremely satisfying performance will be a distant memory.

Also I think Venn is correct and no matter who wins, it's going to be tough to beat Trump. I think Bernie has the best chance of the current lot- certainly much better than Warren who comes across as rehearsed and insincere at worst, nerdy fake-folksy at best, and who is easily bullied and polls at next to nothing with people of color.

But I'd caution against extreme confidence that anyone manages to beat Trump. How often do incumbents lose? Bush 2 lost, but that was entirely because Perot pulled away something like 10% of Republican voters who were pissed off (rightfully) about NAFTA. Before that, I can only think of Carter, and the circumstances were much different for him- the economy was tanking, the Iran crisis, no strong base of support, the oil crisis, etc. The economy is about the same under Trump, he has started no new wars (unlike both his Dem and Rep predecesor), gas prices are fine, he has a very strong base of support- a minority of people but they will come out for him regardless, etc. I think it's very likely he could win again, and the only way to beat him would be to run someone who can manage to ADD people to the typical Dem base and increase turnout. I don't see how anyone but Bernie has even a chance at that. We'll know more after Nevada & SC- if Bernie manages to win by a good margin in NV and then comes in first or second with black voters in SC, then I think it's a good sign that he can pull off a Trump defeat. If he doesn't, if he just barely wins NV or if black voters split between several candidates in SC, then I think it's a good sign that we'll get four more years of Trump.

Bush 1 I mean.

Warren is obviously the best candidate the Dens have running in terms of both electability and would-be effectiveness in terms of actually implementing progressive policies. Every other candidate fails on at least one of those levels. But too much of the left are determined to go down with, and bring the country down with, a very old man who has never bothered to work with anyone, and if he were actually elected by some miracle would be utterly ineffectual because he has no idea how to build consensus. It’s truly baffling. Our only hope is for the rest of the party to give up on the “centrists” and rally behind her instead.

Schmacky if she's the best candidate, why did she come in third and fourth in the first two contests and why does she poll so poorly with independents and people of color? The left didn't do either of those things. All the people who voted for Pete, Biden, Klobuchar could've voted for Warren- they didn't because people don't like her. If she wanted the left vote, she should've had left policies. She vacillated on M4A and she's an imperialist. She lost the left with her greening the military thing. She supports keeping ICE. Who is her base? She's not a leftist and moderates/centrists/swing voters don't like her. Her base is entirely white upper class urban professional liberals who are impressed with wonkish plans.

@12: Please pardon me for asking but I've seen you bring up this anal sex scenario in regards to Auntie G a lot and I was wondering why. I mean the two of you seem to be pretty much on the same page politically and such and I've never seen her attack you (that I know of) so what's up? I'm not trying to be mean, I 'm just curious, since I enjoy both of you as fellow Sloggers.

I had big hopes for Warren. I haven't entirely discarded them, and I will attend her event at Seattle Center tomorrow ... BUT, BUT, BUT:

Her attacks on other contenders in the Nevada debate failed fact-checks across the board. (You all can google,go see for yourselves.) I understand that facts are totally out of style in the Age of Trump, but her performance (and it was performance, not evidence-based argument) was a disgrace.

If she believes what she said, I would have serious concerns.

If she didn't believe what she said, I would have serious concerns.

I don't know which is worse, but either one is really bad. As poisonous as her routine was from both large-D and small-d democratic perspectives, she may still be our best bet -- and that's how dire our situation is at this turn of the wheel.

Discuss among yourselves, but do your homework, willya?

Pathetic. Warren's campaign is going down in flames so she embraces the scorched Earth policy and is taking down the only candidate capable of winning.
This was her one and only shot at being President and she isn't going to win a single primary.
How embarrassing.

Remember: vote early. vote often. repeat.

FUNNY Warren waited until After the debate to do this..
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/mollyhensleyclancy/elizabeth-warren-super-pac-2020-campaign
Unbelievable hypocrites. Like millionaire Bernie Sanders shouting about Socialism from his summer home. The man barely graduated college and has never had a real job. Not to mention his wife... almost as bad a Sawant railing against Amazon while her entire organization uses Prime.

I don't enjoy watching Democrats turn into circular firing squads, it's more of a republican thing, or at least used to be. Democratic candidates should be competing with each other to see who's best at going after Trump, he is after all their real enemy. Used to be the republicans were all divided but now it's the dems too. Not a pretty sight, is it?

There isn't much difference between the two major parties anymore, I'm done with the lot of them, let 'em all murder each other in a mosh pit full of mud for all I care.

"Like millionaire Bernie Sanders shouting
about Socialism from his summer home."

'Jul 6, 2017 -- Million-dollar house is the new normal in one Seattle neighborhood." --SeaTimes

You don't gotta be Rich to be a damn 'Millionaire' these days.
This ain't Yesteryear.

"The analysis by LendingTree looked at the 50 largest metro areas across the country to find which areas had the largest share of million-dollar homes. The study found 11.25% of housing units in the Seattle metro area were valued at or above $1 million. Of the 912,010 overall housing units the study found, 102,598 were valued at $1 million or more."

So, in the Seattle Metro area, Alone,
there's AT Least 102,598 Millionaires.

Kinda dilutes Bernie's Massive Riches Theory a bit, donut?

THANK YOU STRANGER!
and
THANK YOU CHRISTOPHER!
and Go Bernie!