Looks like the Russians are supporting the two candidates they know will destroy America: Trump and Sanders.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/21/us/politics/bernie-sanders-russia.html

I'm surprised that someone doesn't hack his wiki page on the reg, to make it say that his name is Tim Fucking Eyman (because that's what most WA residents call him.

trump'll prolly try and Pardon Chairman Timmy too but if it does not Work Out, prison's as good a place as any to "govern" from (he only just wants to Privatize this fucker and maybe drown it in some foreign-made Republicanized* bathtubs).

I'm still trying to get tickets to his rolling
chair Museum / tax Shelter. Does
The Stranger have any left?

*McMitch 'Moscow's Mitch' KkKonnell gets 'em direct from China (family connections).

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Like FDR's social Democracy 'destroyed America' so bad the Electorate Elected him FOUR TIMES? Yeah, it was pretty Horrific.

They had to pass a Law that Democratic socialists could never again stay in office that long.

Hey, Timmy---what's your gubernatorial candidate focus going to be, rap sessions with a "Presi-chair" like Clint Eastwood's in 2012, as long as you can steal one from Office Depot?

I concur with Catalina Vel-DuRay: RepubliKKKans are truly horrible people. Any members of the GOP who might have been willing (like Mitt Romney) to cross the aisle are being hunted by NRA gun zealots to extinction.
@6 kristofarian: Obviously, RepubliKKKans are scared shitless of any Democrat--especially a woman----who can do for the majority of citizens of the United States as FDR did in well over two terms in the White House.

Maybe the judge will give Timmy the chair.

@auntie Gee: They do LOVE the Corporate Teat
and are all gonna be Billionaires, themselves, soon enough...

@8 -- already in the Museum, dvs.
Bet he'd prolly Rent it to them, tho...

@1 Nah, Putin has no problem with America, as long as it stays on its own continent.

The purpose of Vladimir's sad-frog-cartoon psyops is to back candidates with foreign policies of Russian appeasement, or abandoning Russian containment, or no foreign policy at all, in that order.

@9 kristofarian: Not if we, the people, stop them. Soon their self-serving greed is going to catch up with them. Even billionaires can't eat money.

You know what's kinda crazy? Less than 10 years passed between John Cameron Mitchell appearing in the two-part Hair episode of Head of the Class and the start of Hedwig at the Re-bar. What have you gotten done in the past 10 years?

@12: I world premiered my second symphony.

I was thinking more the electric chair . . .

@14 dvs99: I like your thinking! :)

Wow, it's weird how it always turns out the "Russians" are helping the candidates the Democrap Establishment want's to discredit.

The veggies/sweets analogy is funny because its so transparently insincere - for the Seattle Times Editorial board, the veggies are the sweets, right?

Susan Hutchison would have a better shot at being governor than Timmy.

@17 The right wing of the Democratic party is the only political faction in current American politics that favors a foreign policy of containing Russia. It's not a conspiracy, it's just old-fashioned Russian geopolitical pragmatism.

Putin would counter US foreign policy via military or economic means if he could, but the Russian armed forces are no match for the US anymore, and the Russian economy barely rates above developing nations. So he uses what he's got-- skills and training developed in the formal progaganda state of the USSR, an outsized legacy intelligence apparatus to match, and, and... well, sad frog cartoons.

I for one never would have even dreamed that a loud, targeted chorus of internet jeering could have any political effect whatsoever, but then I was never desperate enough (or in any kind of position) to give it a shot, either.

@18 The left-er candidates are offering plenty of vegetables, of course, but when you cut up some "rich people and businesses should pay more taxes" or a little bit of "lay off the 'humanitarian' military intervention, or at least end it once it's clear we've lost" and put it in front of them on a plate, the Seattle Times (and the rest of the right wing of the Democratic party) has the kind of meltdown that makes an ordinary voter tantrum look like a hiccup.

@20 But you'll still vote for Timmy over any real-life existing Democrat, won't you?

The fabled "Democratic Candidate That A Reasonable Republican Would Totally Vote For, Just Not Hillary Or Obama, Someone A Little More Conservative Please, If You Know What I Mean" is a figment of the imagination, every bit as much as the "Reasonable Republican Candidate for Thinking Republicans, Who Are Forced For The Time Being To Instead Indicate Their Preference By Voting For All These Misogynists and Racists and Grifters Who Somehow Showed Up Out Of Nowhere All Of A Sudden."

@23 - No

Have you voted yet? Why the hell not? That's a silly @#$n excuse. ok...that aside, why do we have to declare our party affiliation on the outside of the 'security envelope'? Since if one's affiliation were republican (and you were therefore an idiot) you'd have no 'security' at all as there's only one possible vote, ("And a write in!" pfff...right)

I'll vote on primary day as the politics is still a moving target with plenty of time for blunders, missteps, and true colors yet to emerge.

Republicans, and what passes for "Conservatives" these days are by definition stupid and malleable people who identify with authoritarian leaders. A generation ago they had their panties in a bunch about Russia because St. Ronald was telling them to be concerned, now they think Russia is fine because trump has been told by somebody that Russia is fine.

It's too bad that this country is always being held back by these idiots, but I guess that's the hand we're dealt - at least until the boomers finally die off enough to become irrelevant.

@27: Well, I hope as an rapidly aging baby boomer yourself you don't die off too soon.

Yessss!!!!!! They are back to Russia conspiracy theory again!!!!!!! Hahahahhahahahahahahaha!!!! :)

Awesome! It is amazing how willing the Dems are to hand us the election on the silver platter! Please keep going with it! Trump's approval went up, his approval among African Americans have doubled, and a whole lot of Dems are walking away, swearing to never vote Democratic again. MAGA!

P.S. I am a Russian spy! Lolski!

@29

Just think, it won't be long before you, and all LGBTQ people, won't be able to get medical care!
MAGA!

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/amp/health/what-the-new-religious-exemptions-law-means-for-your-health-care

32 dear, is there some medication that you are on that you forgot to take today, or maybe took too much of? After all, the last election was not exactly a triumph for you "MAGA" types.

@32

It's funny that I never mentioned any of those things, but that's what you hear.

I mentioned the fact that Trump and his cronies want to give doctors the right to deny you medical attention.

I've also mentioned that Trump raised your taxes to pay for his idiotic trade War. I really hope you enjoy paying the tariffs on that champagne you like to celebrate with.

@32

By the way, the world is not going to end because of global warming.
The Earth will do just fine without people on it.

"I mentioned the fact that Trump and his cronies want
to give doctors the right to deny you medical attention."
--@ Adam

We have tons of MAGAt-type folks here'd rather THEY be Denied
Care than let 'the Undeserving' anywhere near any Doctor,
except for maybe "doctor" Nelson and his Magical Elixars.

A small price to pay, apparently.

"It's too bad that this country is always being held back by these idiots... "
--@Catalina

Horrific peeps who are allowed to Vote.

If Repubs can gerrymander, suppress and pare
down the Voter Rolls of any possible Dems,
why can't we do the same?

Truly Unthinkable, eh?
I know.

@19 - I agree. And more to the point, we in CA laughed when Ah-nold ran for Governor too. Don't underestimate the magic power of $30 car tabs to sway he votes of morons.

@35. That is what your ilk claims (AOC). Remember? The climate change End-of-the-World-in-12-years that the wise prophet AOC talked about? Lol.

"Horrific peeps that are allowed to vote". I know, your fascist kind would rather see those who disagree with you sent off to gulags and "re-educated", we get it. Thanks, Bernie. Lol.

Adam Condom is a Russian bot! :)
Lolski.

Hey. Numbskull -- if yur gonna fucking "quote" me,
get the fucking Period in its Proper Place. Thanks!

Also @Numbskull: "I know, your fascist kind would rather see those who disagree with you sent off to gulags and 're-educated', we get it."

Oh, and that funny little kinda periody-looking thing, with a cute little tail? -- it (Too) goes inside the "Quotation Marks." (see what I did there? peeps'll think yur an Educated man) No need to Thank me -- there's no Charge for this service; I do it solely for the Benefit of Mankind, as per usual.

Where was I .... oh yeah

What's this about you wanna head to the Gulag?
No need for that, Numby -- we'll just Gerymander
(or whatever) your ass OUT of the Electorate
Juss like yer Buds do!

But
Why do you wish to get Gulaged?
Isn't suppressing your Ass sufficient?
I guess I'll just never Unnerstand you people.
Have a Nice day!

epiphany!

It's the Projection!
You think we're just as Cruel as you
are.

Early Nevada data indicates Sanders is gaining among moderates, particularly Latinos.

@Numby: "Dems are just as xenophobic
and racist as they were in the past. :)"

&

"And yeah, we know you fascists suppress
conservative voices, or anyone who is
a free thinker."

More Projection?
Si. Es sin fondo.

"Trump's... approval among African Americans have doubled."

So what'd it go, from like 1 to 2? Pretty sure any increase you're seeing there is gonna be firmly within the margin of error, kiddo.

Hey, thnx, Stranger for that heli vid!

(kinda weird, seeing that
lady getting undressed but
that is Quite the Camera)!

Well, they called Nevada
for
Bernie.

Way to GO, Bernie!

That social Democracy thing
Is really turning out to be A Thing.

It's all over but the 'democratic' National Committee's
Fixing of the Election at the "Democratic" National Convention.

All the 'democratic' Corporatists, 'Centrists,'
Incrementalists and NeoLibs are not quite
done with you yet.

@48 - hard to say

@48. Majority of us, Russian spy/terminator bots do. Lol. Made in a secret Russian factory by the Illuminati and the lizard cucks like Kristofarian to rig elections. :)

You should be Elated
Bernie's kickin' Ass

trumpfy's a Shoo-In right?
And Social democracy equals KKKomminism?
And the Electorate is Stupid?

Speaking of desperately needing a Blow Job

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSUexc9W9QU

This, just in: "Of all the Democratic candidates, Sanders has always counted on the biggest and most enthusiastic grassroots movement, and his appeal appears to be growing.

In Nevada, his victory was impressive pretty much however you diced the electorate, according to the entrance poll conducted by Edison Media Research for news outlets, which was based on a large sample.

Sanders was expected to do very well among young voters, but the scale of his lead in this demographic was something to behold. In the under-thirty age group, he got sixty-six per cent of the vote; in the under-forty-five group, he got forty-eight per cent.

No other candidate got more than seventeen
per cent of the vote in either of these demographics."

A Blue Wave that sweeps "Moscow" Mitch McConnell -- and an insidiously-corrupt boot-lickin' Republican partay -- oh, and El Squattro in the Oval -- out of office and perhaps, into Jail -- or, at least, not right back onto K Street.

Is it Social Democracy ahead?
Stay tuned. Might wanna
buckle up.

https://www.newyorker.com/news/our-columnists/bernie-sanders-scores-an-impressive-victory-in-nevada

@53 You're right, you'd think the Russians would be so embarrassed by the sheer ridiculousness of their sad-frog-cartoon campaign that they'd just shut the doors and drink themselves back into a stupor for another dozen centuries, right?

And yet someone's keeping the lights on in Olgino, and staffing up, too, if you believe the neighbors. It's just unfathomable, isn't it?

If I am elected governor, I pledge to deport Tim Eyman.

@38

You are living in Fantasyland.

I never said any of that shit.

What I did say is that you are a moron that worships a conman that is actively trying to take your rights away, and you are celebrating all of his "wins" with bubbly that he put tariffs on.

Don't worry though, I'm positive that you aren't a bot, Russian or otherwise.
Bots are much smarter than you.

@13 -- Congrats!
Where can we hear it, auntie Gee?

Unfortunately, Bill Weld isn't on the Washington State primary ballot for the Republicans, but can can be written in.

But I'll hold my nose and mark myself a D just to vote for Joe. Bernie would be a disaster on so many levels.

@53 a fools' errand.

trump Scoffs at your silly inclinations
and will, no doubt, have this bill weld fella
incarcerated immediately, post-Election, if not sooner.

@66 -- apologies -- @63, not 53

@58 -- send the Chairman
packing, all the way back, to Eymanistan.
[they have NO chairs in Eymanistan]
[[sadly, only two-legged stools]].
[they do save themselfs a Bundle, tho!]

Love your Plan, Wanders.
'Scuze me:
Governor.

@65: Taking the wheel from the drunk driver (Trump) and keeping in the lane is the "return to normal" America desperately needs. Bernie wants to grab the wheel and head down an unpaved trail that goes in the opposite direction of our destination: the city on the hill.

Raindrop dear, why would Bernie be a disaster? You do understand how the government works, don’t you?

That's my opinion. If you want further info, read the editorials from moderate dems who argue the same.

In a nutshell. He'd raise taxes far too high, and has the misconception that the economy is like a pizza that can never have a bigger circumference. I believe that some European countries have actually moved more towards freer markets than the social democrats engaged in the past. Also, how many bills has he led though to Congress to their completion? Amy Klobuchar and Elizabeth Warren have a more robust record in Congress.

Here's a video history of Bernie's dispositions:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2d3DMC6qyg

It works, Exceedingly well, for the top 1%
For the Rest of US
Not so much
in Fact, it just keeps getting Worse.

Fuck. Corporate. RULE.

The crash of 2008 blip was primarily caused by the subprime mortgage crisis - a mistake both parties have learned their lessons from. It was an aberration and has largely been corrected. One mistake doesn't mean you have to change the underlying system.

@Ken -- perhaps you misunderestimate the Will of the American People when we have a Goal (and an Incentive, like, say, avoiding Mass Extinction, eg) in mind.

For starters, see: the Moon, and how we got there.

@74: Polls indicate that American satisfaction with the economy is quite high. That doesn't jive that the "1% vs. the rest of us" canard.

@72: Fracking is not a good example. It's really horrible on the environment and water tables.

@80 -- Oh? Here's an NY Time's 'Pick,' a comment from Bri, from Columbus Ohio:

"My husband didn't pass a stress test in November, his arteries showed severe blockages. They tried to put in stents, but he had to have open-heart surgery. Quadruple bypass surgery, a life-saving procedure, that is going to cost us dearly.

We have insurance through his work, but it only covered the cost for surgery and some medications afterward. A $4000 deductible is our part to pay. The same deductible for the new year. My husband is a rockstar, he pushed hard, was ready to go back to work after 2 months. He saw me struggling g without is income. The state we live in doesn't offer a short term disability. Our small nest egg melted away.

We had to cancel cardiac rehab like so many others. The insurance only covered 50% we couldn't afford the rest.

I thought we were doing great, now I know the truth. All of us are only an illness away from poverty.

I get Sanders! I understand young people who vote for him. They are fighting for their future. They want drastic change! Me too!"

We have (to Quote Bernie) EIGHTY SEVEN M I L L I O N Un- and Underinsured Citizens in theis Counrtry without adequate Healthcare.

We have FIVE HUNDRED THOUSAND US Citizens going Bankrupt (like fake "prez," but, unlike fake "prez" these folks don't happen to have Casinos) every year, from a Medical Situation.

Tell me again how fucking Well this wonderful Economy is working out, for them. Don't worry about all the rest, just those 87,000,000.

Thanks.

If Mitt had won two terms in 2012, we'd probably be having a race between Paul Ryan and the ever patient Hillary Clinton.

Oh, and speaking of Crushing Student Debt,
Let's ELIMINATE IT.

Too EXPENSIVE! you retort.

Okay -- since We, the People BAILED OUT ot Wall Street, when they crashed the Market in '08, it's time Wall Street paid US back and bailed our Students out -- with a small tax on Wall Street Speculation, we could wipe it out, overnight.

They'll STILL live like Kings.

Even though I've been bashing Bernie, this touched my heart:

Dick Van Dyke endorses Bernie:

https://youtu.be/fgoRVbDh6R8

@88: bullshit. The only waiting lists for surgery in Canada are for elective procedures, like facelifts. Nobody's going to be made to wait for a procedure they need to have to stay alive.

Careful AbnSP --
"facts" are a Liberal
Trap ... and yet
like water off
a duck's ass,
so to speak.

@90, Edited (forgot the dang Verb)
Careful there, AbnSP --
"facts" are a Liberal
Trap ... and yet roll
like water off a
duck's ass, so
to speak.

@84 -- okay, that was false but

Tell me again how fucking Well this wonderful Economy is working out, for them. Don't worry about all the rest, just those 87,000,000.

Thanks.

oh I like it MUCH better without the roll. Ezra Pound might have taken a short break from fascism to blue-line that roll right outa there. You were wrong you were wrong then wrong you were right!

@92 not @84 me but @88 Kenney

[editing at its finest]

Thanks for the clarity, @93!
I shall re-Edit:

hold on

Also @86 I agree that student debt is a freaking disaster and needs to be changed. Need to be radically reformed going forward, and currently outstanding student debt needs to be at least partially forgiven and tied to WPA style national service. It also need to be debt that can be rolled into a bankruptcy. The whole student loan enterprise is a sick corporate/government collusion that essentially ignores the good of the student. fucked up ...

When we, the peeps invested in our returning GI's after WWII, economists figured we got back SEVEN DOLLARS for Every Dollar Invested in educating our returnig Veterans in increased Productivity, new businesses, etc.

We need to think of Wealth
as a Tool and not as a Weapon.

The question to be asked
(of this irreputable outfit) is
is it Correct THIS TIME? Seems
the onus is on the shit-source Provider
and not on the Whistleblower. THNX, S.Grim!

Raindrop dear, your excuse that Sanders would "raise taxes far too high" is just silly, and you know it. The president doesn't set the tax rates, Congress does.

But the reality is that taxes do have to go up, probably by a pretty big amount, to get us out of this mess the Republicans have made of the budget.

@103: Yes, the congressional action was implied. But thanks for reminding us that such legislation will probably never make it out of committee for a vote.

Then your "nightmare" is not actually a nightmare, is it, dear?

You're right. A Sanders administration wouldn't be a nightmare. Just depressing as our nation will be even more polarized.

Centrism has its virtues.

Sadly we'll have to wait until July to hear what tim's punishment will be. I wouldn't be surprised if trump pardons him anyway.

@108 -- I believe that exact question has been asked here, once before -- are there really undecided voters, easily flipped, by a tweet/comment/the particular position of their cat's stools?

Well, heck Yes.
There ARE.

And they are a most Excellent argument for, once again,
teaching both Civics AND Critical Thinking in ALL of our schools.

As well as not funding FAITH-Based 'education.'

@110 -- ElizabethR, we're all Dying to hear --
WHOM will the illustrous Miracle "doctor" Nelson
be Voting for?

B. Would 'doctor' Nelson's Magical Potions
"cure" the donald trump?

C. What would a "cured' donald trump Look like?
After ridding fake 'prez' of all the bad Ju-Ju
would there be even a scrap, left over?

D. How much is a Dose?
Note -- NOT a dose of Herpes.

Ah, shucks, Stranger
you went and Deleted
the Original @110
may as well delete
my response(s)
as well....

@111: Replies to deleted spam just end up being cyber-rot. Next time, please just report them.

Like clockwork, el Stranger ignores my deletion requests -- been there done that but this time It (spammin the spammers) finally Worked. They got TWO.

Can you say Success?

Doctor Nelson is a hero in my book. What can't he cure? We'd all be in iron lungs if it weren't for his courageous work.

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@61 kristofarian: My second symphony world premiered in Bellingham, Washington on December 20, 2019 at Squalicum High School, where it was preformed by the North Cascades Community Orchestra, and conducted by Chip Bergeron. I'm not sure if it has been streamed but I am having more CD copies made of the concert.

@116: Aiiiigh! Make that: "where it was performed by the North Cascades Community Orchestra..." For some inexplicable reason, red wine cures Griz's typos. My guess is possibly because it's a medicinal anti-oxidant.

Must be so confusing to be veteran editorial staff of The Stranger, wilth all the constant love/hate of the Major League Daddy that has to exist to support the need for opposition while withholding extreme jealousy of those writers who deservedly made the jump to the big leagues.