the actual economic damage from the virus will be minimal;
some old sick folks die, some hospital expenses.
however, the self-inflicted economic cost from gross over reaction is going to be devastating.
You are literally destroying your economy over unfounded hysteria.
In the Bible Gideon took 300 guys and snuck up on the enemy camp where tens of thousands of soldiers were sleeping.
Blow the trumpets, bust the pots and wave the torches and the whole bunch freaked out and fell upon each other is hysterical terror and killed each other to a man.
That is what Seattle (and the other Leftist weenie whiny terrified-of-their-own-shadow communities) are doing, attacking their own economies in a mass hysteria and destroying themselves.
@1 Ah, a Bible story! Bullshit written by bullshitters!
As for what is going on in Seattle, it is not unfounded hysteria. And money won't matter if nothing is done and tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands die. Do you truly believe there will be no economic damage if that were to happen? Trump certainly does not give a shit.
We are finding out the hard way that our society literally cannot handle a health crisis of any kind. We need all of the people healthy (at least healthy enough to work) so they can pump money into the economy so everyone can scrape by in our glorious capitalist utopia. Money is everything. Money is the only thing that counts.
Meanwhile, if Trump had not dismantled the pandemic organizations put in place by President Obama, had allowed scientists and the CDC to be prepared and be testing people from before the first case was diagnosed, we'd be living in a entirely different world.
Everyone is lamenting all the money lost and all of the economic damage done without giving one shit about sick and the dead. Trump's spent a billion dollars playing golf on American taxpayers' dime to date and destroyed everything put in place to protect catastrophe in this country, but sure, pretend everyone is just being hysterical and liberals are so stupid they ruin everything. Trump owns this. Trump and his incompetent administration and every piece of shit that voted for him are 100% responsible for this current shit show. Taste that turd and chew on it. That's the truth, that's the reality, that's the fact of the matter. Trump does not give one fuck about anyone but himself and EVERYONE suffering right now in whatever manner they are suffering, is suffering because of him and his sycophants.
100% with our who-knew-not-Black feisty girl xina.
The stereotype that people in the cities are a bunch of panicky effete idiots is an absolute myth. What we got here in the city are the sharpest members of society banging out dollars and winning the economy. Way more than anywhere else, in particular in my city Seattle. People around here are here mostly because they have good heads on their shoulders and make good decisions.
Nobody's flipping out.
But when Covid 19 pops up and starts to rage in whatever exurban excuse for a rock that you @1 and a bunch of other general dummies inhabit, it's going to be a shit show for the ages. Intense anxiety and pressure always lead you all to act like a bunch of fucking unhinged imbeciles.
Blaming Trump is the first symptom of the sickness.
Get help.
(help?
who are we kidding?
The Left is in terminal decline....)
NEWSFLASH.....
Everyone dies sometime.
It isn't Trumps fault.
There are tens of thousands of sick old folk in Seattle who are way past their expiration date.
Hiding oin your closet won't change that fact.
Your culture is pathetically defective and has been mooching off others for decades but Darwin is knocking at the door with a broom and dustpan in his hand; the dustbin of history is your next stop.
last I checked @4 my money flows out of the city, across the mountains and to the coast, to prop up y'all good hod werkin reglar folk who moan like bitches about mythical moochin' city folk stealin' all your hard earned (and really not many) dollars:
"King County accounts for 43.29% of all state tax revenues, yet, it only uses 27.41%. Instead, the millions of dollars raised in King County are used elsewhere across Washington state."
@1 - You don't deserve a reasoned reply, but here it is. The measures are not to prevent future economic damage from the virus, they are to prevent future unnecessary gruesome deaths. A COVID-19 death is an ugly, lungs drowning in your own fluids death. Based on other countries experience, without drastic social distancing interventions the number of cases are expected to double at least every week. 10% or more of those cases will need to be hospitalized. That would leave all local emergency facilities and personnel overwhelmed sometime in April at the latest. At which point we would need to import large numbers of healthcare workers and create more medical facilities; or just have increasing numbers of people spitting up blood and dying in the parking lots of the region's hospitals. This is the reality of the situation.
2 million or 5 million is way low. Counting museums, sports, music, and theater it's easily 10 million a week. And then there are conferences. PAX alone is probably 5 million.
I'm not saying we should just go about business as usual. We can't. But times like these bring home just how regressive this state really is. We have ignored our cultural institutions and schools. We jump at any chance to kill taxes that don't target the poor. And now, we will be a city and region devoid of many cultural institutions because we pushed them to the brink and kicked, hard. It will be fine for those people who don't spend much time here, or who worship at the alter of (racist segregated) neighborhoods. It will also be largely fine for the too-poor-to-care homeless, unless they personally get sick, in which case it will likely be life ending. The middle class that actually works for a living? Soon to be replaced by Amazon's person-free whatever, forced to move to somewhere where wanting to work (instead of living off investments) is actually still considered valuable.
A letter I JUST sent to my US Reps. Recommend everyone do the same:
Dear Senator __
I am writing to ask that you and the Senate consider an adjustment to the 2020 US tax code to allow ANY and ALL taxpayers—regardless of whether or not they itemize—to deduct charitable contributions to non-profit organizations impacted by the "social distancing" required to curtail the spread of COVID-19. This includes, but may not be limited to, the arts, health and human services, community resources, and the like.
In addition to the loss of revenue from closures of performances and venues, spring is the time when many organizations hold their major fundraisers. Without the ability to gather potential donors at events, revenue will go down and these organizations will suffer even more.
Though many, myself included, are already donating and/or not requesting ticket refunds and the like, it would be helpful to know that we could deduct such donations regardless of whether or not we take the standard deduction. As you know, these are far from standard times and the Federal Government has to fund healthcare services first and foremost. Allowing the American public to step up and do their part without worry that they will also be taxed on those donated dollars would go a long way to spur philanthropy at this most difficult time.
Just as the movie theater helped America cheer its way out of the Depression, a strong and healthy arts scene and public resource system of museums, libraries and such will help our souls heal once this pandemic is over. Let’s help them stay solvent until the crisis passes.
Regards,
Interesting phenomenon going on here.
the actual economic damage from the virus will be minimal;
some old sick folks die, some hospital expenses.
however, the self-inflicted economic cost from gross over reaction is going to be devastating.
You are literally destroying your economy over unfounded hysteria.
In the Bible Gideon took 300 guys and snuck up on the enemy camp where tens of thousands of soldiers were sleeping.
Blow the trumpets, bust the pots and wave the torches and the whole bunch freaked out and fell upon each other is hysterical terror and killed each other to a man.
That is what Seattle (and the other Leftist weenie whiny terrified-of-their-own-shadow communities) are doing, attacking their own economies in a mass hysteria and destroying themselves.
amazing.
@1 Ah, a Bible story! Bullshit written by bullshitters!
As for what is going on in Seattle, it is not unfounded hysteria. And money won't matter if nothing is done and tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands die. Do you truly believe there will be no economic damage if that were to happen? Trump certainly does not give a shit.
We are finding out the hard way that our society literally cannot handle a health crisis of any kind. We need all of the people healthy (at least healthy enough to work) so they can pump money into the economy so everyone can scrape by in our glorious capitalist utopia. Money is everything. Money is the only thing that counts.
Meanwhile, if Trump had not dismantled the pandemic organizations put in place by President Obama, had allowed scientists and the CDC to be prepared and be testing people from before the first case was diagnosed, we'd be living in a entirely different world.
Everyone is lamenting all the money lost and all of the economic damage done without giving one shit about sick and the dead. Trump's spent a billion dollars playing golf on American taxpayers' dime to date and destroyed everything put in place to protect catastrophe in this country, but sure, pretend everyone is just being hysterical and liberals are so stupid they ruin everything. Trump owns this. Trump and his incompetent administration and every piece of shit that voted for him are 100% responsible for this current shit show. Taste that turd and chew on it. That's the truth, that's the reality, that's the fact of the matter. Trump does not give one fuck about anyone but himself and EVERYONE suffering right now in whatever manner they are suffering, is suffering because of him and his sycophants.
100% with our who-knew-not-Black feisty girl xina.
The stereotype that people in the cities are a bunch of panicky effete idiots is an absolute myth. What we got here in the city are the sharpest members of society banging out dollars and winning the economy. Way more than anywhere else, in particular in my city Seattle. People around here are here mostly because they have good heads on their shoulders and make good decisions.
Nobody's flipping out.
But when Covid 19 pops up and starts to rage in whatever exurban excuse for a rock that you @1 and a bunch of other general dummies inhabit, it's going to be a shit show for the ages. Intense anxiety and pressure always lead you all to act like a bunch of fucking unhinged imbeciles.
@2
Blaming Trump is the first symptom of the sickness.
Get help.
(help?
who are we kidding?
The Left is in terminal decline....)
NEWSFLASH.....
Everyone dies sometime.
It isn't Trumps fault.
There are tens of thousands of sick old folk in Seattle who are way past their expiration date.
Hiding oin your closet won't change that fact.
Your culture is pathetically defective and has been mooching off others for decades but Darwin is knocking at the door with a broom and dustpan in his hand; the dustbin of history is your next stop.
@4: Uh huh. How's your 401K punkin?
It's been in money market the past few weeks so doing fine, thanks.
last I checked @4 my money flows out of the city, across the mountains and to the coast, to prop up y'all good hod werkin reglar folk who moan like bitches about mythical moochin' city folk stealin' all your hard earned (and really not many) dollars:
"King County accounts for 43.29% of all state tax revenues, yet, it only uses 27.41%. Instead, the millions of dollars raised in King County are used elsewhere across Washington state."
https://www.king5.com/article/news/politics/initiative-976-seattle-king-county-tax-revenues/281-50729284-6b27-4fa3-a2d2-a2ced393d5f3
@1 - You don't deserve a reasoned reply, but here it is. The measures are not to prevent future economic damage from the virus, they are to prevent future unnecessary gruesome deaths. A COVID-19 death is an ugly, lungs drowning in your own fluids death. Based on other countries experience, without drastic social distancing interventions the number of cases are expected to double at least every week. 10% or more of those cases will need to be hospitalized. That would leave all local emergency facilities and personnel overwhelmed sometime in April at the latest. At which point we would need to import large numbers of healthcare workers and create more medical facilities; or just have increasing numbers of people spitting up blood and dying in the parking lots of the region's hospitals. This is the reality of the situation.
Whoever survives corona will be so bored with cabin fever, the entertainment industry will bounce back nicely
@10:
Except perhaps those that rely on actual human beings congregating together in a space all at the same time...
2 million or 5 million is way low. Counting museums, sports, music, and theater it's easily 10 million a week. And then there are conferences. PAX alone is probably 5 million.
I'm not saying we should just go about business as usual. We can't. But times like these bring home just how regressive this state really is. We have ignored our cultural institutions and schools. We jump at any chance to kill taxes that don't target the poor. And now, we will be a city and region devoid of many cultural institutions because we pushed them to the brink and kicked, hard. It will be fine for those people who don't spend much time here, or who worship at the alter of (racist segregated) neighborhoods. It will also be largely fine for the too-poor-to-care homeless, unless they personally get sick, in which case it will likely be life ending. The middle class that actually works for a living? Soon to be replaced by Amazon's person-free whatever, forced to move to somewhere where wanting to work (instead of living off investments) is actually still considered valuable.
Unless you want to get into child care...
A letter I JUST sent to my US Reps. Recommend everyone do the same:
Dear Senator __
I am writing to ask that you and the Senate consider an adjustment to the 2020 US tax code to allow ANY and ALL taxpayers—regardless of whether or not they itemize—to deduct charitable contributions to non-profit organizations impacted by the "social distancing" required to curtail the spread of COVID-19. This includes, but may not be limited to, the arts, health and human services, community resources, and the like.
In addition to the loss of revenue from closures of performances and venues, spring is the time when many organizations hold their major fundraisers. Without the ability to gather potential donors at events, revenue will go down and these organizations will suffer even more.
Though many, myself included, are already donating and/or not requesting ticket refunds and the like, it would be helpful to know that we could deduct such donations regardless of whether or not we take the standard deduction. As you know, these are far from standard times and the Federal Government has to fund healthcare services first and foremost. Allowing the American public to step up and do their part without worry that they will also be taxed on those donated dollars would go a long way to spur philanthropy at this most difficult time.
Just as the movie theater helped America cheer its way out of the Depression, a strong and healthy arts scene and public resource system of museums, libraries and such will help our souls heal once this pandemic is over. Let’s help them stay solvent until the crisis passes.
Regards,