Back to the election. I hope the Bernie voters won’t throw their vote away, if he doesn’t get the Nomination. Yes he’s old, aren’t they all, Trump included, he’s the only one talking sense about issues which effect the most no of people. Look to his record of service and don’t expect perfection. He should get it, he should become President.
Middle America though want Biden, because he implies a return to normalcy. Bernie, like Trump, is a wildcard.
Whichever man gets in, chances are they will die in office with such stress. So it’s the VP who will need to be a good one.

I'm honestly bewildered that Trump is throwing away this opportunity to be a tee vee hero President. You'd think he'd pounce on it - bring in some writers from Hollywood to script his part. But instead, he goes all in on heck of a job, Brownie.

Maybe we should just start calling it the Boomer Flu and thinking of it as nature's way of forcing the Boomers to stop ruining literally everything about life on Earth and fucking off so we can finally start cleaning up their mess.

It basically only kills Boomers, so this might be a godsend. Think of the long game.

@130: I know. When you watch old clips of Trump on talk shows that comes across. Was he so sinister all along or did something put him over the edge?

I can't wait until the coronavirus moves into the old folks' facility called the West Wing.

Trump is taking his cue from Woodrow Wilson:

How the Horrific 1918 Flu Spread Across America
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/journal-plague-year-180965222/

@131: In other words, you have a death wish.

Funny boy @131. Don’t be so sure. Younger people have died from it as well. How do you stay so nasty and intellectually one dimensional for so many years? Cultivate it I guess.

@RonK 107: I just checked to see if you were that 404 troll.

"This is the rhythm of the night/
the night/
oh yeah/
The rhythm of the night/
This is the rhythm of my life/
my life/
oh yeah/
The rhythm of my life"

China is not the model for universal healthcare. They buy up our baby formula in Australia, that’s how much health concerns China’s dictatorship.
Look to other western democracies. They have universal health care and Capitalism still drives their engines.

Calm down and man up ladies. No one likes to see the men running around on deck screaming like school girls.

Garb dear, all of Washington and (I believe) Oregon are vote by mail. Assuming the postal service is and government are still functioning, we should be fine locally.

@149 -- Well, you are NOT (anymore!) the Marlboro Man.

Probably not Joe Camel, either.

Re: Mail In Voting in WA:

Washington also has Accessible Voting Units --- pollling places set up for those who need to vote in actual person.

Accessible voting units (AVUs) are available starting 18 days before Election Day, until 8 p.m. on Election Day.

For specific dates that AVU voting is available at your county elections department, see voter dates and deadlines.

Every county must have at least one AVU at each voting center.

AVUs must be wheelchair-accessible and screened from other voters to maintain privacy.

An AVU presents your ballot on a monitor. You select choices by touching the screen, using a select wheel, or by using a tool. You can use headphones to listen to the text and prompts on your ballot.

Most machines can also be fitted with sip-and- puff tools.

https://www.sos.wa.gov/elections/voters/voters-with-disabilities.aspx

The Russell 2000 is now in Bear Market.

The Dow and S&P will be soon.

Sell all fossil fuel investments, all gold, all bitcoin.

Oh, and wash your hands with soap and water. DO NOT use anti-bacterial soap, it literally creates superbugs that we then can't treat.

Make sure you actually filled in the party you voted for in the absentee ballot or they WILL NOT count it. Even if it was a write in. And you do have to sign the mail-in ballot.

Here endeth the lesson.

When are you going to start a new thread?

Complacency IS Complicity.

I'm starting to entertain the idea that The Lord may have brought this plague upon us to rid us of Trump. The way it is looking we might not even have to wait for the election. If the stock market continues free-falling he might have an aneurysm.

But but but... Italy has universal healthcare!?!

Right on@167!

And also I'd like to add lots of other stuff I'm pulling out of the cushions of my Monday morning quarter chair even though I never took a snap. Or a graduate seminar in epidemiology.

I mean who ya gonna listen too, all the super hard working crazy smart people who have dedicated their lives to this stuff, or an antisocial paranoid asshole spouting anonymously on the internet?

Ah, 169's just Projectin', Garbby.
Slash/burn if ya know what I Mean.
If only they had Something anything to add...

@171 your grasp of credible science is quite good. Your grasp of numbers in relation to user names? Not so much.

@167 is proof that Darwin was right.

" In Italy, a homeless man can get a bone marrow transplant for free, as can everyone else."

If they survive the horrendous waitlists and corruption that are rife in Italy's system.

@ Which’s is why cancer survival rates are higher in the USA than Italy.

On the upside, traffic has been great.

@180: Indeed, why pay for a life-saving bone marrow transplant when you might get one for free if you're willing to wait long enough!

Free Access to Coronavirus Coverage

The New York Times is providing free access to our most important updates and most useful guidance on the global coronavirus crisis.

All five major markets are now in Bear territory - Dow, S&P, NASDAQ, EU, etc

Time to stick a fork in Trump, he's not getting reselected.

Don’t come any closer, no way hun,
Close enough to sneeze in my eyes, carona
Running nose and eyes, carona
Never gonna stop, throwing up. Such a nasty cough
Always throwing up, fever touch
Of the medical kind, my my my
My my my my carona

This website is a fantastic resource, very reassuring to understand the statistics as they relate to epidemiology. Read the symptom stats - so nice to know what happens and when. Spoiler alert: you get it for 5-7 before the pneumonia sets in if it is going to, and it probably won't.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

Pro tip—Total Wine still has EverClear 190 in stock. Sanitizer, drink, and nail art solvent all in one

You know what would stop this?

Free shit!

"All Schools Closed Until April 24" Really?

• "Governor Jay Inslee has closed all schools, both public and private, in King, Snohomish, and Pierce counties, through April 24."

Hmmm. Are there Other Counties in WA.
I seem to remember there being like 39, or so.

I won't have my money spent
on shoddy Headlines
will I?

@194 -- Everclear's a fine stove fuel, too.

@195 as of this afternoon the fed's gonna print 1.5 trillion to prop up the banking system, so the presses will certain be lubed up and ready to fuck

6 weeks of spring break, you heard it correctly. I'd recommend state and federal parks, beach trips, ski trips, keep 1.5 metres distance (5 feet for you guys).

Asian and Indian markets also went Bear, so until Trump and Pence resign, and there's a vaccine (2021 at the earliest), and tests are done (UW cranking out 5,000 a day by next week, lots of work for MDs and grad students in BioChem), get used to Trump Failure.

Or you could shut down fossil fuel projects statewide like Greta says. She's right about that, you know. You can now buy electric trucks, cars, and SUVs in this state, so get in gear (ok, turn the ignition or press the button or say "Siri, run my car to the ski hill" or whatever).

Canadian scientists have vaccine candidate. NOTE: this will still take 12-18 months from this point before it's deliverable, but possibly could fold it into a late October/November version with a moderate formulation. Major concern is side effects and how effective it is. Rushing it decreases effectiveness and increases side effects. Might find only old people can get the first version (and family of infected people, to stop the spread).

Now, go have some back bacon and maple syrup and thank Canada for having a functioning health care system that is single payer and cares about people not profits. Eat out at a local restaurant.

Ok, folks. I’m fucking bored of this quarantine.

How ironic that the thing that killed capitalism was Trump and the thing that saved it is Canada.

You would think Trump would wait until the stock markets close before holding a press conference. Every time he opens his mouth on the subject, the markets tank by 6-7 percent. And for this one, he has to think on his feet instead of reading a Steven Miller screed off the teleprompter.

The "national death toll" is at a massive 41! Laughable, right? Until it happens to you or one of your family and then it's not so hilarious, is it. Better safe than sorry! Donate to the Stranger and tip everyone you come into contact - OVERTIP! Those hourly workers and contract workers and those without paid sick time are the ones who worry me. Be safe!

131, no offense but fuck you.

Because there is no widespread testing capacity, we have no idea how many people are already infected. Until we know who is and who is not yet infected, we do not know who to treat to prevent the further spread. Instead, we are encouraging voluntary self-quarantine, which isn’t going to work; people get bored after a few days alone in a room, and are going to break their quarantine. People need wages to pay rent and bills, people need to go out and buy food. Whatever expectations you have of people choosing to hide in their homes until the outbreak is over to contain the illness are fantasy. This is especially so, as people who are asymptomatic spread the virus more efficiently than those who have symptoms.

An uncoordinated response is the same thing as accepting defeat. Hope is not a strategy.

All higher education statewide is now remote instruction until April 24.

Good thing I coded all our systems to allow remote data entry.

"The New Yorker has made its
coronavirus news coverage and
analysis free for all readers." --the New Yorker

"The New Yorker has made its coronavirus news coverage and analysis free for all readers." --@theNew Yorker

@207 -- wtf . calling for killing the president sets bad precedent prolly why it's illegal

@131: You first, Boris S. Theodork. Feel free to croak at any time. That would eliminate a big trolling mess.
@204 randommonkey: Agreed and seconded.

@207: I'd prefer that Trumpty Dumpty, Dencey Pencey, and the entire Evil Empire become fatally inflicted with coronavirus in mid putt, at Mar-a-Lago. Then suddenly, giant mutant alligators en masse rise out of the muck that was once Florida, chow down, and Nancy Pelosi and Elizabeth Warren take over as President and VEEP of the United States and we wipe out MAGAvirus, too.

Killing anyone is a terrible idea. I’m okay with deporting Trump, as more of a tit for tat, but outright murder, no, can’t do it.

There’s always a line. And I draw that line at murder.

As for giant alligators, have you ever noticed that Pam Roach kinda is a giant mutant alligator? I mean, wow. That lady could sure use some cold cream. There’s no reason to let your skin go like that. Moisturizer’s cheap.

@212: I wish I could live in a Hanna-Barbera cartoon like you do.

Boy, if ever I needed proof of how bad things have gotten in Seattle, 212+ comments on a single thread is sure it. Lots of really bored people stuck at home.

Take care, everyone!

Durkan's cracking; a bit of humanity seeped in.

@Sausy -- thanks!
I stand corrected.
(you seem calm.
should I be
Worried?)

"Calling for people to be executed for their crimes is protected speech."

Need they be Convicted first?

@218 sure, but oughtn't calling for lynching style murders get one 86'ed from this message board? It seems like if you did that from a right wing and or white supremacist perspective you'd rightly be immediately banned. But if you do it from a Marxist perspective? That seems to be acceptable. It shouldn't be. All this murder talk is loony bin crazy talk.

I mean people all over the place in these threads are expressing that specific people and groups of people should be extrajudicially murdered. I made too many cracks about another users self-professed aversion to butt sex, and got banned to pixel ghost purgatory for that. I should have just gone with hoping people were dragged from their apartments and beheaded I'd still be a real person. By which I mean an anonymous voice behind a stable fake name, so you know, not even remotely a real person at all.

Anyway I shall study the acceptable format for wishing people murdered and maybe make that my brand for a while.

I'm sitting on a shit ton of cash, have platinum healthcare and can't wait for this market to bottom so I can hoover up my golden retirement future. Meanwhile, how's everybody doing? Feeling healthy?

@222: Are you referring to mental health? Get well.

JT Cornball had such a huge twat
Compared to it
Seattle’s a minuscule dot.

He once caught the Clap at a race
They say you could see it from Space

I concur, Rocky.

Murder's okay, long as they hate the target?
As many Whackos as there are, why test Fate?

The shoe will be on the other foot soon anough.

He claims he's much Richer
(I doubt that's the Picture)
as a human he's a bit of a waste.

Go Italy. Music, where would any of us be without it.
Long as they shut down during siesta times.

@213 Wandering Star: Could you please tell that to Donald Trump / Mike Pence, Brett Kavanugh, Mitch McConnell, Neil Gorsuch, Clarence Thomas, and the entire GOP every tie a doctor risks his or her life trying to save a RAPED AND FORCIBLY IMPREGNATED WOMAN'S LIFE???
And these white male misogynists are hellbent on outlawing abortions. Yes. my feelings stand. The only way this global pandemic has any chance of slowing or ending is by all the evil forces--Trump / Pence in particular---get coronavirus themselves or start losing family and loved ones of their own. Many other commenters have made similar posts and I agree.
@214: ...said the resident troll, binge watching Speed Racer. I'd watch the carbs right now if I were you, sugarlips.
@216 Corydon: I'm not bored. I'm telling the truth. How are you doing?

Isn’t Cornball the name of that guy Biden got into a fight with at a pool?

@208, @209, and @210 kristofarian (re my comment @212): Donald Jackass Trump, Mike Pence, ad nauseum all deserve to go down in Trumpty Dumpty's Mar-a-Lago swampland for all the global damage he's done and fully, proudly, and stupidly denied. I'm pretty sure you and I and many other commenters can agree on that.
@228 LavaGirl: Yes--music--where would we be without it? May music, the blessed universal language, never die. I played my piccolo, C and alto flutes and piano tonight, and will be back at it again tomorrow. Music, cats, my sweet little VW and the good people in my life are what keep me together. Movies--classics--mostly comedies--make for healthy distraction, if only momentarily.

Please everyone stay healthy, warm and safe.

WHY couldn't that toxic Pigfucker-in-Chief test positive for coronavirus?!
When is this !@#$%^ EVIL going to STOP??

Right. The real problem here is Bernie Sanders, AOC and their unconstitutional soft coup. They are treasonous traitor and they and every one of their political followers should be dragged by the hair out there homes work and schools and be executed in the street. Firing squad is too good for them; cut all their necks with piano wire and leave the corpses.to.rot where they lay as.a warning to all the assholes on the fence or who sat by letting our country be taken.

See? @234 is perfectly compliant with the Stranger's defacto policy around murder speech
and death wishing: if it's political and tied to law and policy in some way it fine and doesn't get deleted or banned.

Perfectly reasonable, and might I say fun? And good for America on the level of discourse.

You death-wishers from the Facebook fake news wing of the far left can go ahead and use that one as a template if you fancy! Fun!

@222: But please start buying stock bargains now!

@31 "Music, cats, my sweet little VW and the good people in my life are what keep me together."

Sandwiched by unhinged death wishing upon white male Republicans, specifically and in general.

If this is together I'd hate to see apart.

237,

Hedge funds.

@239: Absolutely, Gordon Gekko.

@216 I'm a very bored person stuck at work. No one is out shopping, but we're still here waiting!

Who, exactly, is going to enforce any curfew put in place? How is that realistic? People will not do the right thing, they are panic hoarding toilet paper FFS.

@232 I don't believe for a second anything we're being told is the truth when it comes to the pig fucker in the White House. That being said, I do believe even COVID-19 is incapable of contaminating him. He's that much of a disease. Sadly, he's clearly a vector given all of the people who were with him at Mar-A-Lago who have tested positive.

I'm optimistic we'll "flatten the curve" and have a V shaped recovery by fall.

People go outside in warmer weather. That decreases the rate of transmission for respiratory illnesses during warmer months, as the infected droplets disperse over larger volumes of air, decreasing their concentration per breath taken in.

During colder months, people are indoors. Every sneeze and cough increases the number of infected droplets in a given volume of air, and therefore, the concentration per intaken breath.

Thus, we will see a drop as warmer weather comes, and an increase once the colder weather comes back.

Seattle typically sees a cold snap near St Patrick's day followed by increasingly warm weather, until the fall. Expect a brief rise in cases in the coming days, and then a decline shortly thereafter. Come the fall, if you are in a vulnerable demographic, move South.

@118, social distancing will not be difficult for Seattle. Everywhere else, perhaps.

@235 if would solve all of America's problems if every single person who has ever used the word snowflake as an insult was rounded up and had a cattle bolt gun pressed to the temple. That would clip off all the destructive freedom fucking pig fuckers on one end, and most of them on the other. Goddamn I wish that would happen.

@234, @235, & @238: Is your onset of flaccidity and receding hairlines bothering you sad, little trolling incels that much? Take some deep breaths. And wash your hands.
@242 & @243 xina: SO true.

250, 251,

Can Dr Zulu cure Swiftress?

Guys, cmon. Is this gonna be how you are going to talk to each other as we all wait for whatever it is we wait for?
Instead of ragging each other, share some facts. Always up for learning new things. Takes my mind off the disaster, be it fires, floods or viruses. Managed all three down under this year already and it’s not even the end of March.

Not virus facts only though. Yes we know. It’s a dirty fat virus which can kill.

I do not desire for anyone with whom I disagree to experience death, and the hands of this virus or by other means.

Auntie Grizelda is a fan of Shakespeare; I am not- I prefer Dostoyevsky.

At the end of a Shakespeare play, everyone dies. At the end of a Dostoyevsky novel, nobody dies, and yet everyone is miserable.

@254 & @255 LavaGirl: Ragging? No--I'm staying indoors where it's warm (low temps are in the 20s!), and trying to remain as healthy, enlightened, and calm as humanly possible. May good common sense prevail from all this. May music never die.
@256 Wandering Star: Shakespeare? You're way off. You're into prolonged misery? Not me. I want the pain and suffering to end--and those accountable to get their just deserts. Actually I am a fan of Stephen King, Stanley Kramer, Blake Edwards, and John Hughes for starters.
You must think like Gene Wilder's iconic candyman, Willy Wonka, in the title role from the 1971 David Wolper children's film Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory:
"The suspense is terrible---I hope it will last."
And you can't read Dostoyevsky in the can!

Stanley Kramer’s On the Beach captures the Seattle mood. It’s the end of the world.

As for Stephen King, I adore his politics but not his novels. They all seem like the same book, albeit with different characters and place names. At the same time, the author himself is an excellent person, truly worthy of admiration.

Neither Kramer nor Hughes wrote, to my understanding, they were directors, not authors. I’m not a fan of the latter’s work. Something about seeing a passed out girl getting raped portrayed as some kind of victory for the rapist just doesn’t sit well with me.

Now, if he’d have shown Prince Andrew getting raped, that would have been much better. Shut up, your highness, and bring me a turkey pot pie.

@258 Wandering Star: Oooooooookay. You've got me at John Bender. Bang. Regarding director John Hughes, I'm really thinking more of Ferris Bueller's Day Off, Planes, Trains, and Automobiles, Sixteen Candles, and Uncle Buck.
I disagree on Stephen King's writing. To me, he has an expert way of storytelling that keeps me hooked. Somehow, on one page, i may be left feeling nauseous--then on the very next page suddenly laughing hysterically at King's bone dry, sarcastic wit.
I love movies, and there quite a few well made ones based on King's novels. The Shawshenk Redemption (1994) is one, starring Tim Robbins and Morgan Freeman.

“Of all the arts, the most important is cinema” - Lenin.

I share your love of the silver screen, although for myself it is not so much the medium, or the genre, so much as it is the teller of the tale. Some of the most impressive works I have seen have been cinema verite, such as the works of Dziga Vertov or Claude Lelouch. Raw feed is also entertaining. Euronews has a segment called No Comment, where a cameraman just points at a scene and broadcasts live whatever gets in front of his lens, unedited, uncut, uninterpreted, unfiltered, live. I saw segments from the siege of Sarajevo that drained all the blood from my extremities as I watched, an experience Mr King has never replicated. Perhaps that’s because his demons were imaginary, and the ones I saw on that screen, all too real.

King the man himself would make a skilled pundit. His hot takes on politicians of the day have always impressed me. As an author, I guess, I find him at the same level of John of Patmos, crude revenge fantasies that failed to impress me much after I exited my adolescence, even if both men have huge fan bases.

If I wanted a revenge fantasy, I would turn to Dumas. One does not need to imagine supernatural forces when human beings are so much more terrifying than any angel or devil could be.

https://www.euronews.com/nocomment

@261: Ooooo---don't get me started on revenge fantasy! My two all time Stephen King-based revenge film FAVES are Carrie (Brian DePalma, 1976) and Christine (John Carpenter, 1983).

Revenge fantasies are rarely good viewing. They strike me as juvenile, impotent rage, the sort of thing one expects from a teenage boy who has been grounded, hormonal angst ridden dreams as embarrassing as junior year death poetry.

“Someday, I’ll get you” is really just a crock of shit.

The most effective game theory strategy is always tit for tat. A revenge fantasy is like a stutter made during such a strategy, one where, after being slighted, one gets stuck on one’s tits or one’s tats, unable to move on.

Our President is an example of this. He is obsessed with revenge, he wastes vast stretches of his life seeking it, planning it, getting in, dreaming of it. I don’t think he can make love anymore, he can only cum thinking about getting even.

I, unlike he, do not masturbate with my fist so tightly clenched on my dick that it bleeds before it comes. I prefer a feather touch, gentility, to make love, not to hate fuck. I prefer to stroke gently both the strings of my instrument, and the thighs of my boyfriend.

To quote the great prophet Chuck D., Make love, fuck war, peace will save us.

@263 Wandering Star: Carrie and Christine were just that: "I'll get you" teenage revenge fantasies about bullied teens getting even with their tormentors. Were you never bullied in public school? Lucky you. I wonder if Stephen King ever was.

Oh, I was bullied relentlessly. The difference between us is, I grew up.

@264: I'm really not interested in your sex life, Wanderer.
@266: I grew up, too, WS. I know the difference between a movie and real life.
At least I don't try reading Dostoyevsky in the can.

"auntie grizelda" can talk all the shit she wants, but it's obvious that she'd the auntie grizelda this article, written by a relative (both remain completely anonymous, no outing here!), is referring to.

https://ordinary-times.com/2018/11/06/auntie-grizeldas-bandwagon/

Her relative shows her to be a perfect icon of the Facebook dupe, getting tricked over and over by devisive Russian fake news, working up into a murderous rage, unreachable by reason in her black-and-white go-team-kill-team lather. It would be funny if it wasn't the same propaganda-sucker dynamic that time and again has led to mass political murder.

So yes, I try to make her look silly, minimizes her to the clown she is so that her poison doesn't get any traction or validity. She's a pathetic goof, but more than anyone here howls about murder and death to her enemies. But notice now her newish measured tone? If she sticks to that, and stops the murder talk, then it was worth being banished to pixel ghost land.

Read the article (again, no one outed, just references screen name)! It tells the perfect story of a stubborn and slightly dim person, deeply needy for approval and a sense of affiliation, who just marches right into the the Russian's hands.

Kaiser Permanente will start clinical trials for a COVID-19 vaccine candidate. This will still take 12-18 months from this point.

If you are already part of KPG, and a risk candidate or a control, you could probably participate. However, know that early versions have high failure rates and high side effects. This is how we tune vaccines (lay speak).

In general, however, you should wait until much later. And wash your hands with soap and water.

@kristofarian (lol)
Why do you Write
in Such a fucking Unreadable Style
are you Stupid? unemployed and Unemployable?!

your comments are the
ones that Read like Nonsense
at the Pleasure of the very very Few.

Time to change the Way you Comment, Kristofarian.

not quite as EZ
as it Looks,
eh, windy?