The coronavirus is terrible for all, but more terrible for America’s underclass, now redefined not just as the poor and marginalized, but those who are deemed “essential”—not to heal the sick but mostly to enable the rest of us to successfully shelter in place. Grocery workers making minimum wage. Amazon workers making just a few bucks more standing side-by-side in the giant warehouses and left on their own to gauge their risk when they deliver packages. Postal workers, through rain and sleet and snow and, now, potentially deadly illness. Farm workers, mostly immigrants and undocumented, “given letters attesting to their ‘critical’ role in feeding the country.” Auto workers, volunteering to go back to work to make ventilators. Hundreds of thousands of the newly unemployed knowingly putting their lives at risk out of desperation.

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/04/essential-workers-deaths-underclass.html?via=taps_top

@140: No xina, it's terrible for everyone - every human on this planet - equally. That includes Donald Trump.

Nobody gets to claim the mantle, or as an arbiter, of who's suffering most. The misery of what your going through, and want everyone else to feel enraged as much as you are, stems from your quest for an overall accounting and blame.

It's a thirst you can never quench.

Yeah, the 404 shithead has been around for well over a decade (previously known as the "danny troll," as he was obsessed with, and had a giant boner for Dan Savage) and I can't imagine him being a Stranger employee. Back in the day when registration WAS required, he was unable/unwilling to do so and so always posted anonymously. In those days, you had to click a certain button to actually display the anonymous comments, and a Stranger staffer would have surely found a workaround to that, as his word diarrhea got viewed and replied to substantially less as a result.

@142, and bragging about being No 1 on Facebook.

@139 Dude, 404 troll is not the preferred nomenclature. Pixel Fluid Ghosts, please.

129
That shit won't fly, even coming from a crazy woman.
Cuomo knew in 2015 and in 2016 and in 2017 and in 2018 and in 2019 that NY needed 16,000 ventilators.
He didn't get a single one in five years.
And he has the gall to get on TV everyday and bitch because the Federal Govt doesn't have his ventilators.

131
The Southern States will be just fine, thanks.
The Blue cities in those states?
Maybe not so much.
Like the Leftist Urban shitholes everywhere; full of whining complaining terrified helpless syncopated snowflakes, coughing all over each other. The hiking trails and parks in the countryside have been closed to keep the city folk from bringing their virus out into rural areas.

You kids have been gloating about the virus killing off Trump's base but I don't think you have been looking at where this actually is hitting;
Blue cities, Blue Congressional Districts.
Speaking of the South; you peel out 5 or 6,000 Blue voters in some Purple districts and then redistrict based on the 2020 Census and you may see the Solid South get a little redder.
Especially if the virus cuts down on door to door outreach and the unmotivated don't respond to the census.
You Lefties never seem to learn that the Evil you wish on others usually bites you in the ass instead, sooner than later.

Also the PFG thinks it's darling that some of you think the PFG is a Stranger Staffer. Paranoid much? Anyone can be a PFG. Try it, delightfully liberating!

Shut it raindrop. Other countries don’t have Trump, thankfully, and have taken this seriously much much quicker than dumb fuck trump has. He is a fool, a man with zero intelligence. He’s like our sad little troll here.. very very underdeveloped as a human being. No empathy for others. You hear that, rainapologist?
He and those who enable him are devils, here on earth. Like Putin, like the Chinese dictator the nth Korean one, like the alleged criminal in charge in Israel etc... puny little men whose names I don’t memorise. With mammoth power, over others.
Stop defending this murderer, raindrop. His evil deeds have long passed the point where he is nothing but an enemy to all humanity, that’s how much power this evil sad sad stupid limited man has.
Dan Savage deletes the troll from his pages. Maybe the staff leave the drongo here because You All Keep Feeding Them.. gives the peanut gallery some blood sports.
So up to you all if you want decent discussions here, or let this tool keep derailing things. Don’t read their posts and they can’t push your buttons.

@146 and here I thought Red Congress was what your dog does with your wife during her time of the month.

Yep here in the blue cities we've got some loudmouth unemployables, but way less than in red areas. Most of our folks are the best and brightest, kicking ass and making most of the USA's money, sending way more than our fair share to you pathetic beggars. What you got are all the leftover fruit too grotesque and or too stupid get to market.

Without us you're a fucking third world religious state, never forget that.

148
It is true;
Danny is Terrified of The Troll.
We are Truth, Hear Us Roar.

149
Forget?
Hell, we are about to find out.
You know the feeling when your 30 something worthless mooch kid finally moves the fuck out of the house?
That's the rush we will be experiencing when the whiny cities finally implode...

@148: I didn't defend Trump's response.

You do raindrop.. feel the rage at his inhumanity, as you do for other fascist leaders around the world. And there sure seems to be a lot of them.

Fox News host sits in silence as infectious disease specialist exposes Trump’s coronavirus failure: https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/4/2/1933636/-Fox-News-host-sits-in-silence-as-infectious-disease-specialist-exposes-Trump-s-coronavirus-failure

Trump's arrogance and ignorance are killing people (aka when stupid people think they're smart they do maximum damage. That's where we are with Trump).

https://www.salon.com/2020/04/02/our-dunning-kruger-president-trumps-arrogance-and-ignorance-are-killing-people/

@152: Yes, as you said, I feel the rage at his inhumanity, I just don't call for his murder. I have a calm, rational, disposition on Donald Trump and don't subscribe to the notion that I must express rage just to prove to others that I hate him.

Instead, like Nancy Pelosi, I pray for our president. I suggest you do the same.

Look Raindrop, if you aren't a good enough person to anonymously howl into the public void for the bloody murder of every single person you do, or might, dislike, then I'm not at all sure you belong here.

Touche, pixel fluid ghost.

President Donald Trump revealed a grim projection in the coronavirus pandemic on Tuesday: Even with the social distancing the US is doing now, 100,000 to 200,000 Americans will likely die as a result of the ongoing outbreak. “When you see 100,000 people, that’s a minimum number,” Trump said.

It’s a horrifying figure. That’s more people than ever died in a single year from HIV/AIDS, drug overdoses, gun violence, or car crashes in the US. It’s more than American casualties during the entire Vietnam War.

But it’s also a horrifying number, in part, because much of it was likely preventable. If the US — including the Trump administration — had better prepared for pandemics, the country likely could have avoided ever talking about 100,000 to 200,000 deaths.

https://www.vox.com/2020/4/1/21202987/coronavirus-pandemic-trump-deaths

To borrow from prison parlance, Trump's a dead man walking. Handsy Joe's gonna win in a landslide, historic likely. It's just too bad Don Doorknob's legacy is gonna exist as this devastating catastrophe and not "covfefe", or being the bronze medalist in the fattest President in American history category.

Sure glad I bought NFLX two years back.

A healthy 39-year-old DJ died of coronavirus. What his young widow and daughter want you to know. "We couldn't get him tested. I fought and fought and fought," she said.

Conrad Buchanan's death illustrates the harsh reality of Covid-19: No one is immune from this disease, and even young, healthy people can die from it.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/02/health/dj-conrad-buchanan-coronavirus-death/index.html

This is why people need to stay the fuck home.

And you know what REALLY grinds my gears? Is that it didn't have to be this way. Like, let's say the global pandemic response team had been put into place not by Obama, but rather by GWB, or even GHWB. In those hypotheticals, fats wouldn't have had the petty and spiteful need to disable said response team, thus allowing him to call on their expertise and handle this crisis with something resembling competence.

It then follows that the Doorknob may not have lost the economy so disastrously and thus managed to mount a campaign with an actual chance of winning come November. Which THEN enables him the resulting chance to continue eating the shit-ass, Taco Bell and Micky D based diet that got him to where he so proudly stands today, and presumably even the opportunity to overtake perennial front-running fatasses Grove Cleveland and Will Taft to claim his rightful crown as the fattest fuck to hold office in American history....

Thanks, Obama.

As the coronavirus pandemic threatens more communities, funeral directors say they can’t keep up with the growing death toll that has already claimed more than 5,000 lives in the United States.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/funeral-directors-overwhelmed-covid-19-death-toll-n1175541

We've already surpassed one million cases and 50 thousand deaths.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

Coronavirus Cases:
1,015,877

Deaths:
53,218

WHO Director Says World Will Reach 1 Million Coronavirus Cases and 50,000 Deaths in the Next Few Days
https://www.newsweek.com/who-director-says-world-will-reach-1-million-coronavirus-cases-50000-deaths-next-few-days-1495670

Pray for him, raindrop. To whom? Your fantasy person in the sky. I don’t call for trump’s murder, though when the time comes I will welcome the karma coming to him. Locking children at the border in cages away from their parents and then adopting some of those children to US families.
I pray he and his brown shirts will soon be taken off to prison.

Were WE only Half as Smart as the 'inscrutable Asian':

"How Taiwan Contained COVID-19:
Early Action, Technology &
Millions of Face Masks"

"Taiwan, despite being just 100 miles from mainland China with regular flights to and from Wuhan, has successfully staved off the worst of the coronavirus pandemic.

The country has so far seen five deaths... "

FIVE Deaths [TOTAL!] inTaiwan

"... and just under 350 confirmed cases, and most schools and businesses remain open. How did Taiwan do it? “Aggressive action,” says Dr. Jason Wang, the former project manager for Taiwan’s National Health Insurance Reform Task-force.

He is now the director of the Center for Policy, Outcomes and Prevention and associate professor of pediatrics and medicine at Stanford University. He speaks with us about Taiwan’s strategy and what the world can learn from it."
.
Tons more at:
https://www.democracynow.org/2020/4/3/taiwan_coronavirus_response

"How Taiwan Contained COVID-19:
Early Action, Technology &
Millions of Face Masks"

This might work just fine in the real world, but until you can prove how it works in theory, the CDC and WHO are not interested.

@166: I suggest the Johns Hopkins site, with snazzier graphics!

https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html

168
"...they stopped all flights from Wuhan and also other Alert 3, Level 3 alert, areas...."
Ah, the old racist 'banning flights from China' tactic.
Shameful.

Just over one million cases worldwide.
Just over a quarter of a million cases in the United States.
Just shy of 6800 deaths in the United States in ONE MONTH.
Dr. Fauci says we have not even hit the half-way mark yet.
Stay home until May?
How many will die in April?
How many will die in May?
How many will die in June?
When is the half-way point, Dr. Fauci? Other doctors/scientists/experts?
How many will die AFTER we reach the half-way point?
Stay home until when?
Study history children.
In 1918 the flu came raging back in the fall.
Stay home until when?
How many will die?
How many dead is a win for Trump?
How many dead?
How many dead?
How many dead?

PSA on the easiest way to make your own mask:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=16&v=EAj12GKuAEk&feature=emb_logo

Q: How many dead is a win for Trump?

A: Zero

@174 Sunday, the president said that 100,000 deaths would be a great win.

Since then he's changed it to indicate that over 200,000 would be a win.

How many times will he move the goal post?

https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-im-doing-a-great-job-fighting-the-coronavirus-and-100000-of-you-will-die

The good news now being spread by Trump wasn’t that the virus would miraculously vanish. It was that death count of between 100,000 and 200,000 would provide evidence that he’d done “a very good job.” As a point of comparison, 291,000 members of the U.S. armed forces died in combat during World War II.

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2020/03/31/trump-coronavirus-claims-victory-mean-somebody-else-loses-156657

Trump’s Claims of Victory Usually Mean Someone Else Loses (but what's a few hundred thousand dead Americans, am I right? I mean on top of all of the dead in Puerto Rico, dead immigrants at the border, and the uncounted number of people that have died as a direct result of him since he slithered into the White House - all lives lost in the mass shootings by white supremacists invoking his name and his rhetoric, etc.)

As long as there are enough Trumpers left to suppress the vote and continue to enable all of his crimes against everyone in this country and all humans in general, he'll call it a victory. The only thing that matters in his mind is him.

Every state that's failed to issue stay-at-home orders is run by a Republican governor.

Not having stay-at-home orders IN EVERY SINGLE STATE is like having a "pee section" in a pool. POINTLESS.

But you know people in this country, the most important thing is freeDUMB, no matter how many people die.

Here's the Republican governors putting an untold number of lives at risk:

Alabama—GOP Gov. Kay Ivey
Arkansas—GOP Gov. Asa Hutchinson
Iowa—GOP Gov. Kim Reynolds
Missouri—GOP Gov. Mike Parson
Nebraska—GOP Gov. Pete Ricketts
North Dakota—GOP Gov. Doug Burgum
Oklahoma—GOP Gov. Kevin Stitt
South Carolina—GOP Gov. Henry McMaster
South Dakota—GOP Gov. Kristi Noem
Texas—GOP Gov. Greg Abbott
Utah—GOP Gov. Gary Herbert
Wyoming—GOP Gov. Mark Gordon

The president of the United States, ladies and gentlman:

Dear Senator Schumer:

Thank you for your Democrat public relations letter and incorrect sound bites, which are wrong in every way.

As you are aware, Vice President Pence is in charge of the Task Force. By almost all accounts, he has done a spectacular job.
The Defense Production Act (DPA) has been consistently used by my team and me for the purchase of billions of dollars’ worth of equipment, medical supplies, ventilators, and other related items. It has been powerful leverage, so powerful that companies generally do whatever we are asking, without even a formal notice. They know something is coming, and that’s all they need to know.
A “senior military officer” is in charge of purchasing, distributing, etc. His name is Rear Admiral John Polowczyk. He is working 24 hours a day, and is highly respected by everyone. If you remember, my team gave you this information, but for public relations purposes, you choose to ignore it.
We have given New York many things, including hospitals, medical centers, medical supplies, record numbers of ventilators, and more. You should have had New York much better prepared than you did, and as Dr. Fauci and Dr. Birx said yesterday, New York was very late in its fight against the virus. As you are aware, the Federal Government is merely a back-up for state governments. Unfortunately, your state needed far more of a back-up than most others.

If you spent less time on your ridiculous impeachment hoax, which went haplessly on forever and ended up going nowhere (except increasing my poll numbers), and instead focused on helping the people of New York, then New York would not have been so completely unprepared for the “invisible enemy.” No wonder AOC and others are thinking about running against you in the primary. If they did, they would likely win.

Fortunately, we have been working with your state and city governments, Governor Andrew Cuomo and Mayor Bill DeBlasio, to get the job done. You have been missing in action, except when it comes to the “press.” While you have stated that you don’t like Andrew Cuomo, you ought to start working alongside him for the good of all New Yorkers.

I’ve known you for many years, but I never knew how bad a Senator you are for the state of New York, until I became President.

If you have any questions, please do not hesitate to call. Or, in the alternative, call Rear Admiral Polowczyk.

Sincerely yours,

Donald J. Trump

@180 & @181 xina: I nominate you winner of the thread. You nailed it again.

@182: So soon? We haven't even seen the swim suit competition yet.

184: Sadly, these motherfuckers ever learn anything. Right up to and including their own sickness and death,

184: Sadly, these motherfuckers never learn anything. Right up to their own sickness and death.

Do vaccines provide immunity in addition to killing he virus, or is that essentially the same thing?

Learn history people. In 1918 people thought the virus was gone. Then it came raging back. Believing this will be done and gone sooner rather than later is sheer stupidity.

There were 3 different waves of illness during the 1918 pandemic, starting in March 1918 and subsiding by summer of 1919. The pandemic peaked in the U.S. during the second wave, in the fall of 1918. This highly fatal second wave was responsible for most of the U.S. deaths attributed to the pandemic.

The number of deaths was estimated to be at least 50 million worldwide with about 675,000 occurring in the United States. Mortality was high in people younger than 5 years old, 20-40 years old, and 65 years and older. The high mortality in healthy people, including those in the 20-40 year age group, was a unique feature of this pandemic.

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/pandemic-resources/1918-commemoration/1918-pandemic-history.htm

@195: thank you for all your links and hard work trying to keep people focused on what is actually happening. Unfortunately I begin to think you should change your screen name to Cassandra. And I didn't get a chance to earlier, but I am so sorry for the loss of your friend.
Stay safe my dear. xoxo

@196 Thank you for your condolences. It was such a horrific shock.

And funny you should say that regarding Cassandra. I have always felt like Cassandra, my entire life. Not many people know who Cassandra is.

People never want to hear the truth. They refuse to listen. There are those who see and those who will never see, not even as they draw their last breath.

I'm hardly the only one (Cassandra), though. There are so many people who are out there who have been trying to get people to see what is happening (especially regarding climate change) for decades now. Human beings, apparently, will never learn, no matter how many opportunities we are given to change.

If we don't learn from this, the next crisis will be far worse.

197
If Cassandra is taken perhaps Chicken Little is available.

An international poll of thousands of doctors rated the anti-malaria drug hydroxychloroquine the best treatment for the novel coronavirus.

Of the 6,227 physicians surveyed in 30 countries, 37 percent rated hydroxychloroquine the “most effective therapy” for combating the potentially deadly illness, according to the results released Thursday.

The survey found that 23 percent of medical professionals had prescribed the drug in the US — far less than other countries.

@183: Your triglycerides must be flying off the scale, sugarlips. Watch the carbs.
@197 xina: I am so sorry to hear your loss. You have my heartfelt condolences. Stay healthy and safe.

180
Try harder.
Blue states have had far more cases and fatalities.
The bluest; NY and California, have records of spectacular failure to prepare themselves, including and particularly failure to obtain ventilators when state task forces recommended it, or getting rid of existing stockpiles of ventilators.
And the majority of cases and fatalities in Red states occur in Blue counties and cities withgin those states;
New Orleans in Louisiana, Albany and Atlanta in Georgia.
Sorry, this pandemic has Blue fingerprints all over it...

Answered Prayers?
Perhaps....
From Snopes*:

On March 28 the Food and Drug Administration approved the use of two antimalarial drugs, hydroxychloroquine and a related medication, chloroquine, for emergency use to treat COVID-19. The drugs were touted by President Trump as a 'game changer' for COVID-19.

However, a study just published in a French medical journal provides new evidence that hydroxychloroquine does not appear to help the immune system clear the coronavirus from the body.

The study comes on the heels of two others – one in France and one in China – that reported some benefits in the combination of hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin for COVID-19 patients who didn’t have severe symptoms of the virus.

I am a medicinal chemist who has specialized in discovery and development of antiviral drugs for the past 30 years, and I have been actively working on coronaviruses for the past seven.

I am among a number of researchers who are concerned that this drug has been given too much of a high priority before there is enough evidence to show it is indeed effective.

There are already other clinical studies that showed it is not effective against COVID-19 as well as several other viruses. And, more importantly, it can have dangerous side effects, as well as giving people false hope.

The latter has led to widespread shortages of hydroxychloroquine for patients who need it to treat malaria, lupus and rheumatoid arthritis, the indications for which it was originally approved.

https://www.snopes.com/news/2020/04/03/small-trial-finds-hydroxychloroquine-is-not-effective-for-treating-coronavirus/

*"This article is republished here [@Snopes] with permission from The Conversation. This content is shared here because the topic may interest Snopes readers; it does not, however, represent the work of Snopes fact-checkers or editors."

@198 I'll second that. There's a haughtiness to assuming that everyone else are head-in-the-sand dunces not reading a thing about Coronavirus. I'm reading tons, but am not nearly at the same level of panic as xina, who even her good bro lissssssa has several times noted as being mentally ill. I am a cool head, perfectly engaged with reality, effective in a crisis or emergency. Having read the same stuff as xina, I don't agree with her apocalypse forecast. She's a panicky, emotionally out of control, mentally unstable person providing no utility who shouldn't be encouraged.

One thing I'll say is that it's crystal clear that xina has a loser's bias - she's only semi-functional socially and so can't work and can't get ahead. Super frustrating as an otherwise intelligent person I'm sure. She WANTS everything to burn down so that everyone is as fucked as she is, and it won't, so she's bitter. That shit doesn't wear well, gets worse and worse until no one can stand you. Of course she sees total disaster and wants everyone else to as well. She wants everyone to feel like she has for years about her future.

So I too reject the Cassandra label - I don't take my direction from broken-souled unemployable rageaholics.

If you want someone to listen to, how about an internal medicine and ventilation specialist MD who works intensive care Coronavirus wards? Google MedCram, listen to Dr. Seheult explain all aspects of Coronavirus directly and accurately. Start at around video 40. There's where he starts giving sound advice on how to protect yourself and how to strengthen your immune system. It's level-headed realistic analysis with a nose for what you can do, not schadenfreudic parsimonious pointless in your face rage screeching by an unemployable crazy person who hopes your family dies of Coronavirus if you disagree with her tone.

Looks like the Stranger's comments are Not appearing immediately post-posting, again... C'est Pandémie la Stranger

In one of the newest epidemiological studies out (which are dropping in bunches now) it appears that being obese is nearly as correlated to bad outcomes that being old. Fat old man are fucked, but fat at any age significantly ups your chances of dying with a tube down your throat. That certainly sucks.

"I am a cool head, perfectly engaged with reality, effective in a crisis or emergency."

A stable genius

@trolling trolly Troll
How'd you ever Excape your Stable?

Do not look behind you --
there's some guys with large Nets
approaching from the Rear.

I'm sure they're just after
The Last Butterfiles.
Leave them Be

206
We are curious what percentage of the seriously ill and dead smoked

@207 it's true though! I'm the person you want at the bottom of the cliff you fell off if EMS isn't already there, certainly more than a hippy dippy dufus who's gonna piss his off-brand Kavu trousers and rub you with the wrong essential oil (doh!).

Shit slows down for me in acute crisis situations. I become clear-minded and task-oriented, able to see and assess and compartmentalize and act rationally and effectively. I'm not sure why, normally I'm a bit more emotional than average. In emergencies though I'm a cool beam of take care of business while making those suffering feel safe.

Stable Genius, other than your Hate for females, you're okay. Right?

(My [CONSIDERED] guess is Rodger "Dodger" Goebbels/Ailes's IS back and has stumbled into The Stranger's pages on Accident, trapped in some sort of a 'mirrored reality' and cannot quite figure out how to gettf out).

Say, that remids me -- your Projections are fascinating.
Have you got any More?

209
It's a Gift, for sure.
They'll never understand, the way we do.

"In emergencies though I'm a cool beam of take care of business while making those suffering feel safe."

Yep -- you make everyone
within two hundred Miles
of being far far away
from you feel Safe.

Say, that reminds me -- have you been checked, recently for Dunnings-Kroger? You appear to have picked up a rather a nasty Dose. I'm no 'doktor,' but 'doktor' Nelson IS, and, just your [Our] Luck, he's HERE every day, on the Stranger, spamminig away like a (nother) Mad Man.

see: Him.
Soon!
Ok?

"I'm not sure why, normally I'm
a bit more emotional than average."
--@Stable Genius

What?!
No one would have Ever guessed.

But that excessive Emotionality
makes you Thee Perfect
trumpfy supporter.

Plus -- he's doing ''Great''!

America's Finally got
the 'leader' she
Deserves?

Perhaps Not.

On a different note who thinks the cruise industry will bounce back?

So much says no. I mean you'd need to literally Shanghai me to get me on a cruise. The disease problems, the tax evasion, all the squawk about not getting any help from the feds because they aren't registered in the USA. Carnival tried to raise a billion dollars by issuing stock and could only sell 500 million's worth.

On the other hand, most American people! I mean it's a floating upscale Hometown Buffet that takes you to carefully controlled picture postcards.

I'm in the gonna recover camp because I have faith in 'murica! Carnival stock is off a high of $72 at $8 right now. If you had say $1200 to park in a gamble for 5 years, you might do alright. Or lose your shorts because who the fuck knows ....

But in seriousness, if you can, do give your $1200 to charity. Spend your own damn money degenerate gambling on the cruise industry.

Not to beat a dead horse here
but from where do you Hail,
Stable Gee?

Your semi-mastery of our Culture
(and overt Disdain thereof)
label you as from ... the
Ukraine? Am I close?

I did not say excessively emotional though! Just a nudge toward movie crier but still in the middle of the bell curve. You are mistaking that for the long tail statisticians refer to as the "xina zone." :)

Also what's your (not you hippy dippy, the "brained normals") take on Boeing? Much buzz about hop on while down, but the peak it fell from looks like a big ass bubble. I like a big bubble ass as much as the next gal but big ass bubbles not so much.

I think they'll get propped up until things stabilize because of all the horrible weapons they make for the military (readiness! meaning boondoggle!). But not at all sure if they are done going down or if they'll climb that bubble again any time soon ...

Whoa -- you're doing Tag-TeamTrolling?
Damn -- you guys are turning this shit into Art.

Just think if we were all working on the
Same Page how far Humanity might Travel.

But THE Question IS:
Up, or down?

@215 well I certainly am not employed by the Stranger, if that's what you're implying. Of course they need your, and my, dumb clicks to puff up their numbers and increase ad revenue. I'm sure that's why they haven't banned all the resident named trolls who thing they're humans, and why they dig us pixel free ghosts.

Join us hippy dippy! It's as easy as clicking "or you can sign up"!

We're in the cyber-rot zone now.

"I did not say excessively emotional though! Just a nudge toward movie crier but still in the middle of the bell curve."
--@'Stable' Genius

Okay. But here you are @108, replying (read:
Projecting) to your (one of your) very own self(s):

@107 Wow you are a phenomenally bad and/or sick person.

You're a wildly self-involved narcissist who hunts for reasons to self-righteously rage.

The track record inarguably speaks for itself in this regard.

You are addicted to the adrenaline and cortisol.

I see this in a lot of people who've gotten sober.

And right now you're choosing to grandstand in that vein as hard as you can.

You think that's what your acquaintance and his family would want you to be doing right now?

For you to be dragging his still totally fresh death into some twisted anonymous public display of you indulging your rage addiction?"

How do you Like trolling now?

@221, no silly dippy hippy, that was a PFG replying to xina, who had just wished painful deaths upon said PFG's family, a xina who was trotting out the fresh corpse of a loose acquaintance as a reason to rage about bloody murder like a fucking lunatic. And simultaneously say loogit me, I met someone who was very cool and moderately famous. And then capitalize on the backhanded puffery even more by repeating a litany of obscure band names that signaled her inclusion in something cool against the backdrop of you dorky turds (who didn't peak as a 10th graders with marginally better haircuts and the right band button their jacket).

It was unhinged badness that the mods wisely and rightly and deleted, leaving the perfectly appropriate and clear-sighted replies.

@Garbby -- Thank. You.

Yep. Our trolling trolly Troll ("'Stable' Genius"? 'COVID-19, Jr'?) is here for the sole purpose of Dissension and is (actually) pretty gottdamm Good at finding (American) cracks to Widen.

AWESOME little PSA, btw
https://youtu.be/BtN-goy9VOY

Teensie snippet: "Although it Sounds trivial, the very best thing you can do is Wash your hands . . . as if you've just cut up some jalapenos and want to put in your contacts."

@covid-19, Jr -- "... the perfectly appropriate and clear-sighted replies." You, in a Nutshell?

Of documented cases closed/recovered worldwide: 21% were deaths
Of documented cases closed/recovered in the United States: over 50% were deaths

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

Interesting take on what we need to do. (Except the Peace Corps fired all of its 7,300 volunteers and left them twisting in the wind upon making them return to the U.S)

A Game Plan to End Social Distancing
If we’re serious about controlling the crisis, here’s what it will take—and who needs to step up, from the Pentagon to the Peace Corps.
https://www.politico.com/news/agenda/2020/03/30/social-distancing-game-plan-154915

"Normal" will look completely different when this is over. I wish more people understood this. There will be no returning to what was.

This Is Not the Apocalypse You Were Looking For

To the rich and stupid, many of the economic measures necessary to stop this virus are so unthinkable that it would be preferable for millions to die. This is extravagantly wrong on more than just a moral level—forcing sick and contagious people back to work to save Wall Street puts all of us at risk. It is not only easier for these overpromoted imbeciles to imagine the end of the world than a single restriction on capitalism—they would actively prefer it.

https://www.wired.com/story/coronavirus-apocalypse-myths/

@227: There's no doubt that all humans realize what is happening, and that changes (good and bad) are inevitable. But even pandemics come and go, just like earthquakes. Life and the human condition are known to all.

So you don't have to worry that more people don't understand that we won't return to what was, because everyone knows and understands the situation just as much as you do.

Oh looky @225 Professor Chicken Little Disaster Porn Got Nothin' But Schadenfreude is implying that the Coronavirus death rate is between 20% and 50%.

Better alert the fools at the CDC that they're way off!

: rainy, we've been chatting about the Definition of Projecting, but I wanted to be sure, so I googled the thing and here's what popped up (ONE result) [.oo7 sec] (here it is):
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"So you don't have to worry that more people don't understand that we won't return to what was, because everyone knows and understands the situation just as much as you do."

So there ya go.

New York-based disaster preparedness Dr. Irwin Redlener was almost speechless Friday while trying to explain the scale of the ineptitude we are witnessing. "I can't understand why we got so incompetent," said Dr. Redlener, whose son works as an ER doctor in New York and has already lost colleagues close to him. Redlener said he had been reviewing the impeachment articles that were passed by the House and acquitted by the Senate. "They seem naive compared to the incompetence we're seeing in this pandemic crisis, it's shocking," he said, adding, "it did not need to be like this."

No, it did not. Competence matters. Government matters. Public service matters. Integrity matters. Humanity matters. Life matters.

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/4/4/1934137/--Wartime-President-Donald-Trump-Dear-America-You-re-on-your-own

@231: You're really hung up on that meaningless retort, yet the cyber-rot you write is full of projection. Why is that?

Ralph Nader -- if ya don't already Hate him
he's pretty Fawking Enlightening.
Lisen to him, Live, right now on:

http://www.radiorethink.com/tuner/?stationCode=kodx&stream=hi

Hey trolling trollly Troll -- I called you 'COVID-19, Jr' (more than once). That was Wrong. I Apologize. That doesn't make you Not a jerk, however. (Me neither).

233

Is there an echo in here?

Plenty of people do not understand how serious this is and many don't even believe it is a problem at all. Even when they die from it.

They aren’t doing it because they think God will give them immunity to disease, and they aren’t going out to restaurants to save souls. They’re doing it because they don’t take the problem seriously enough, thanks to right-wing media outlets that downplayed the pandemic even as the numbers ticked up.

https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/04/02/landon-spradlin-coronavirus-pandemic-death-punchline/

https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/social-media/coronavirus-deniers-take-aim-hospitals-pandemic-grows-n1172336

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/coronavirus-deniers-outbreak-hoax/2020/03/19/46bc5e46-6872-11ea-b313-df458622c2cc_story.html

The Coronavirus Deniers and Their War on Expertise: Anything they don’t want to believe is simply discarded as partisan.
https://washingtonmonthly.com/2020/03/31/the-coronavirus-deniers-and-their-war-on-expertise/

What We Pretend to Know About the Coronavirus Could Kill Us
Today’s propaganda is tomorrow’s truth, and vice versa.

Ordinary citizens aren’t used to operating on the same timeline as the scientific method. We struggle to understand how to interpret epidemiological models and we misread them. And we’re unsatisfied with uncertainty, especially when it comes from our experts.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/03/opinion/coronavirus-fake-news.html

The Religious Right’s Hostility to Science Is Crippling Our Coronavirus Response: Trump’s response to the pandemic has been haunted by the science denialism of his ultraconservative religious allies.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/27/opinion/coronavirus-trump-evangelicals.html

Oh, and whilst I'm on the subject, rainy, I once called you a cunt. That was Wrong. Too. And I apologize. I should have said acting cunty because you it looked like you were; perhaps the womenfolk'd prefer even that term head South (like the N word in polite society) [Do we stil have one?] [I'm beginning to wonder]; I'm [somewhat, dammit] open to sugestion.

@xina

We, the people need to hold the reilguluous
lunatics accountable to US, if not to their Jesus.

Remember who it Was
killed Jeanne d'Arc.

Possibly thee closest to God of ALL Mankind.
Ask Mark Twain.

@404:
Xina suffers from a chronic, physicality degenerative health condition and it is to that which I have referred when posting.
As part of your creepy obsession with her you've morphed her physical illness into a mental one, which really says more about your state of mind than hers.
She posts pertinent links from reputable sources, and you can just go ahead and die mad about it.

@239: My goodness, thank you. I would have never remembered. Conversely, I apologize for projecting inappropriate barbs on you.

To change the subject, I suppose I should wear a mask in public. I just hate the dystopian look it conveys for mass people walking around wearing masks.

To me, presentation is everything.

@240 yes! It would be a far better world if private college white ladies like you and xina who know the names of the cool bands were running everything.

You are right too that the frantic article posting and Chicken Littling and schadenfreude isn't pathological spouting, its a valuable service to everyone else in the world who certainly hasn't read a damn think on their own, and if so clearly can't formulate a cogent opinion. Or know the names of the cool band.

And nice job sliding in a little "die" message to me under the protection of protective phrasing. Classy! The extra "s" must stand for scumbag.

@239 how is "cunty" better than "cunt"?

The Coronavirus Crisis Is Showing Us How to Live Online

We’ve always hoped that our digital tools would create connections, not conflict. We have a chance to make it happen.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/17/technology/coronavirus-how-to-live-online.html

Count the # of posts by me vs. the # of posts my trolls and the trolls win by a landslide. Of course since they're all 404s, you can't see their post count like you can all registered posters. I have not come close to posting as much as the trolls. And the more the trolls post and attack me, the more inclined I am to post more information. The more attacks posted against people registered to comment on this forum exposes the trolls for what they are and exposes the people who provide this forum, the Stranger, for what they are as well.

I know full well who I am and nothing any troll here has ever said about has anything to do with reality. They sure do like to get nasty when they think they've found someone they can bully into submission, though. Go ahead, trolls, keep at it. I will keep posting whatever I want to post, commenting on whatever I want to comment.

It's just a race to the end (the Stranger's demise) now.

Why the Online Trolls Troll
https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/online-trolls-why-people-become-cyber-bullies-social-media-twitter-facebook-study-cornell-stanford-a7616126.html

Psychopaths and Sadists
https://www.inc.com/minda-zetlin/the-emotional-intelligence-of-internet-trolls-stud.html

Hardly news: Internet Trolls Are Also Terrible In Real Life
https://www.pcmag.com/news/study-internet-trolls-are-also-terrible-in-real-life

Internet trolls are also real-life trolls
https://www.theguardian.com/science/head-quarters/2014/feb/25/internet-trolls-are-also-real-life-trolls

Why trolls love to pick on women

Troll behaviour is highly associated with what are known as the "dark" personality traits, which are also far more common in men. The big four are psychopathy (which describes people who are impulsive, reckless, and lacking empathy), narcissism (people who are grandiose, have a high opinion of themselves, react badly to insults), Machiavellianism (people who will scheme, lie and trample over others for personal gain), and sadism. Together, these traits are known as the Dark Tetrad.

Troll behaviour is vile, upsetting, inexcusable and probably unstoppable – but it doesn't mean the world is full of misogyny and hate. It just means that certain people (more men than women, as it happens) are hardwired to be twisted losers. Most of them are unlikely to turn hate talk into deeds because that would mean getting off the couch.

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/opinion/why-trolls-love-to-pick-on-women/article34336855/

Men who abuse women online are total ‘losers’, says science

https://metro.co.uk/2015/07/21/men-who-abuse-women-online-are-total-losers-says-science-5305795/

@244 - I don't see how that comment does anything but exacerbate and belabor the banter you're complaining about.

It is so rich when the trolls with registered accounts call out the other trolls.

https://who.gives.afuck/2020/07/21/It-is-so-rich-when-the-trolls-with-registered-accounts-call-out-the-other-trolls-says-science-5305795/

xina's manic serial freakout, TL;DR:

she's the stable genius leading us through this troubling time. You should have inspired confidence!

" North Dakota, and South Dakota still have no shelter-in-place rules or recommendations. Dr. Anthony Fauci doesn't understand that...."

There is a lot Dr Fauci doesn't understand;
a huge problem with the current "crisis" is that people who should be unbiased reliable sources of Scientific information are instead partisan whores pushing their agendas.
The public is not stupid, and can smell a fake a mile off.
The process of "Scientists" shilling the Leftist agenda and losing credibility started with Climate Crisis!OMG!! (whatever happened to THAT?....) and continues with the Corona.

The Dakotas are incredibly sparsely populated (social distancing is a way of life there) and have fewer than 200 cases in their entire states.
Just because Seattle and Manhattan have fucked up and are shitting their pants as they cower under their beds doesn't mean the Dakotas have to as well.
A "Scientist" worth JackShit would reject forcing a one-size-fits-all response on the entire continent.

Once the hysteria dies down the smart kids will point out that isolation efforts should have been targeted to the actually vulnerable segments of society;*
and that the stay-at-homes should have been phased geographically as the virus spreads.
many places are shutting down weeks before it will be effective, and will spend longer times in shut-down that would have been necessary, were sane rational heads calling the shots.
The heartland is building a boiling resentment at having their economies gutted in unsound hysteria driven flailing policy disasters coming from the failed costal urban Leftist shithole cities.

Once the hysteria dies down the smart kids will also point out that the lethality of this virus is a order of degree or more LESS that the "scientists" are claiming; and that the folks most at risk were the ones who had gutted their lungs already smoking and vaping.
You read it here first.