thee Richest Country in the History of countries
and we, the People have 100,000,000 un-
and under-insured healthcarewise

three US peeps own MORE
THAN one-half our Citizenry

Black people have been oppressed
for 401 years in the (now) USA

and Slave Patrols & slavery have
since migrated to our Prison /
"justice" industrial Complex

Perhaps it's time we look
at America with Fresh eyes.

Don't forget to wear your Republican cloth coat.

Hi Gloriana. You should integrate Truman's integration of the military, Strom Thurmond's response and the Civil Rights Act of 1964 into your novel history. That'll be quite a trick and I'm looking forward to it.

Sorry, Alden.
Gloria's as Immune
to Facts as FOX
& pigs are to
Sanitation.

@5: Ensuring that black couples refrain from having children until marriage does nothing to address the fear and threats they face from getting disproportionally killed by police and incarcerated - that is more of a threat to strong families than not having the blessing of clergy ever was.

As conservatives, we've always been against obsessive and intrusive government. Well, most unfortunately, the police have become that obsessive and intrusive government. And I have great respect for the police, even now.

The "few bad apples" has always been a worthy explanation for me until recently. But, like a bolognese sauce with a cup of salt accidentally added, you can't reform our city police departments. Dumping a potato in won't fix it (does that ever work?) - No, you have to dump it ALL out and start anew.

@9: "Young men who grow up with the guidance and example of a functional father are less likely to turn to crime and violence."

True, but not when their functional father is incarcerated or dead.

You may think that's a flippant response. And in the past I would have agreed. But the facts really do tell us that disproportionate killings and incarceration must be addressed, and that only is rectified by major overhauls.

Oh, nothing to preclude rappers and professional athletes from being good fathers - right?

8

Way to go, Rainy! This isn't a partisan issue. Expel these trolls from your party.

@16: Why stereotypically associate professions with parenting skills?

@14 - Thanks - my party, however, is waiting patiently on the mezzanine waiting for the Trump party to clear.

@4 -- You are saying that the war on poverty somehow turned black families into wardens of the state, while it did no such thing to white families. Everything went wrong when we started giving black people the same handouts we had been giving white people for years. If only those people were forced to live with even more poverty, they would pull themselves up from their bootstraps!

What bullshit. Increased social spending has proven to raise the standards of people worldwide. It helped build the greatest middle class the world has ever known. Unfortunately, it only included white people. When white people were getting handouts, black people were still getting screwed (denied jobs, denied educational opportunities, denied loans, confiscated wealth, etc.). Just when black people started getting the same oppurtunities, we were hit with social unrest (due to Vietnam and Nixon's attempts to retain Jim Crow) and then a major economic downturn (Oil Crisis). That was soon followed by Reaganomics, which meant a destruction of the New Deal as well as the Great Society programs. With it went the expansion of the middle class (for black and white) and we have lived in an increasingly stratified country ever since.

Oh, and the missing black father idea is also bullshit. https://www.fatherhood.gov/library-resource/myth-missing-black-father, https://www.theatlantic.com/sexes/archive/2013/06/understanding-out-of-wedlock-births-in-black-america/277084/, https://www.chicagotribune.com/opinion/commentary/ct-missing-black-fathers-obama-20170110-story.html. It is a convenient excuse for conservatives to wring their hands, and blame someone else -- in your case, the very approaches that can help solve the underlying poverty and racism.

@17,

Man, don't waste your time on that freaking oxygen thief. You know I'm on record here defending contributions from yourself and Mehlman. I'd even extend that defense to David Shoreline, and on a perhaps unforgivable stretch, ol' Glorianna, among others with whom I vehemently disagree. Even as I think you're all lunatics, you at least consistently attempt to engage in good faith debate and dialogue. That imbecile @16 is either unwilling or incapable of doing so. Much as I hate to advocate it, he should really be banned, or at the very least ignored by anyone who cares about these issues. The spellcaster spammers make a more compelling case for their presence here than him.

@18 - And that's the problem. If you really wanted them out, you wouldn't be waiting patiently. You'd be excising the tumor by any means possible. Patience = complicit.

@24: Nah. They're as much your problem as they are mine. Political parties and their factions are all our pain and celebration.

(To avoid appearing as a hypocrite, I suggest you dial up Frank Lloyd Wright's uncomfortable history in regards to race.)

@20 - I try - I admit being seduced by hyperbole and snark. But listening is also good.

My idiotic friend got banned. Thanks slog moderators!