Slog AM: CHOP Is CHAZ's New Name, SPD's Budget Grew by $100 Million, Supreme Court Protects LBGTQ Workers

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"Will have to be done by somebody else."

Yes, that's the point, stupid.

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Kavanaugh is Squee's puppet.

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From Seattle Times on SPD increased spending:

"The SPD union pact... has been a major contributor to the surge in spending. In 2019, 44 SPD employees had base salaries in excess of $200,000, compared with nine employees making at least that much five years before...."

A five-fold increase in the ones making more than $200K per year. What has that bought? Nobody can say.

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Alito and Bart the Ralpher argued in their dissent that the SCOTUS has no right to interpret US Law. I am not kidding.

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In other News, this, from the NYT: "These Kids Are Done Waiting for Change

In less than a week, six Nashville teenagers created a march that drew 10,000 peaceful protesters and gave hope to a whole city.

NASHVILLE — In real life, Nya Collins, Jade Fuller, Kennedy Green, Emma Rose Smith, Mikayla Smith and Zee Thomas had never met as a group when they came together on Twitter to organize a youth march against police violence. It was unseasonably hot, even for Middle Tennessee, with rain predicted, and earlier protests here had ended in violence, with the Metro Nashville Courthouse and City Hall in flames. Collectively, these are not the most promising conditions for gathering a big crowd, much less a calm one. But the teenagers were determined to press on, even if hardly anyone showed up.

On June 4, five days later, the founding members of Teens for Equality — as the young women, ages 14 to 16, call their organization — were leading a march of protesters some 10,000 strong, according to police estimates. 'I was astonished,'” Kennedy Green, 14, told me in a phone interview last week. 'I did not know there were that many people in Nashville who actually see a problem with the system. I was like, ‘Oh, my gosh, there are so many people here who actually care.'

These young people are passionate about their causes and unwavering in their commitment to change. The world they have inherited is deeply troubled and desperately flawed, and they see with clear eyes both the errors of earlier generations and the hope of their own.

Their power lies in the undeniable moral authority of youth: They did not cause the mess they have inherited, but they are rolling up their sleeves to clean it up.

Above all, they are brave, enduring withering attacks by craven adults who hold no scruple against threatening children.

You may argue that these activists are simply too young to understand the risks they are taking, but I think they know exactly what they are doing. What they are too young for is cynicism. What they are too young for is defeat."

--Margaret Renkl
June 15, 2020

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/15/opinion/nashville-teens-protests.html?action=click&module=Opinion&pgtype=Homepage

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4 - It is the same manure that Scalia spread around everywhere any time he had no legal basis for his decisions. Because SCOTUS cannot enact law, the Scalia creep trick is to accuse the other SCOTUS of "legislating," which is not within the SCOTUS powers. Very grade school.

By the same argument, they will say "Constitution gives me no choice!" That statement alone should disqualify them from the jurist seat.

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That Supreme Court ruling is HUGE. I assumed it was a lost cause, almost certain we would lose with the court generally shifting to the right. I was incredibly surprised that we won, and by a 6-3 vote. Roberts and Gorsuch both sided with the liberal wing of the court. Gorsuch even authored the ruling. This is kind of a seismic shift in how the Supreme Court views LGBT rights in the wake of the marriage case in 2015.

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Since we’ve mostly forgotten what good news is, the Supreme Court banning anti-LGBTQ job discrimination is completely mind-blowing! And Go-suck, the Tr666p judge, wrote the opinion!1!

This is gonna be an absolute earthquake in the Confederacy, my country of origin.

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@6 Social mores regarding sexuality are changing. I read somewhere that 8% of 18-30 year olds now identify as LGBT. That means if you see a random person in that age group on the street or at the grocery store or whatever that there is a one in 12 chance that he/she/they/it is some kind of deviated prevert.

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In hindsight it seems weird to think the supreme court would rule in favor of workplace discrimination against prevailing public opinion, but in the trump era we’ve become so accustomed to everything sucking that we just assumed they would do the wrong thing. In the context of history, it would be unusual for the court to actively dial back the law when the overwhelming cultural current has been progressing towards non-discrimination, and has been for generations.

Only downside is that in a few years republicans will be bragging about affirming trans rights.

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Justice has a well known liberal bias.

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@3, those salary figures are outrageous. People shouldn't be going into law enforcement to strike it rich. And obviously, this is a situation where there is no correlation between compensation and performance.

My recollection is that during the Ed Murray years, as the revenues expanded with the Amazon boom, the spending just mindlessly expanded with it. I wouldn't be surprised if that has continued in the Durkan administration. Of course, none of this happens without the City Council's consent. Not an indication that we have disciplined, far-sighted Jerry Brown-style leadership in our City Hall.

In contrast, I recall that the best mayor in America, San Francisco's London Breed, announced recently that any 911 calls that don't involve actual crimes would no longer be routed to the police. In one fell swoop, she managed to nip most of (not all of) these policing problems in the bud.

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If teachers were killing students & the union made sure they didn’t lose their job over it there would be 0 teachers unions today. There is no career on earth besides law enforcement where the public is browbeaten into believing that any criticism of bad actors is an attack on the entire profession, but the ubiquity of cell phone cameras is bringing that to a slow but steady halt. We may not get rid of police unions but that doesn’t mean we will not get the change we seek.

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Quite surprising the Po-po haven't just
Confiscated all cameras, which is
(obviously) where The Problem lies.

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you’ve been trolling this blog for years now and you still only have one note

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More unnecessary Death at the hands
of the (former) Slave Patrols:
From Democracy Now:

Protests intensified in Atlanta after a white police officer shot dead an unarmed 27-year-old African American man named Rayshard Brooks in the parking lot of a Wendy’s fast-food restaurant on Friday. The encounter was caught on surveillance camera and by a witness.

Police approached Brooks after he had fallen asleep in his car. The police questioned Brooks, patted him down and gave him a breathalyzer test.

During a scuffle, he grabbed one of the officers’ stun guns and attempted to run away.

Another officer then shot Brooks in the back two times. The officer, Garrett Rolfe, can then be heard on a bodycam video saying, “I got him.” The Fulton County medical examiner has ruled Brooks’s death a homicide. Less than 24 hours after the shooting, Atlanta Police Chief Erika Shields resigned. The officer involved in the shooting was fired.

Fulton County District Attorney Paul Howard said, “[Brooks] did not seem to present any kind of threat to anyone, and so the fact that it would escalate to his death just seems unreasonable.”

Protests continued in Atlanta throughout the weekend.

On Saturday night, the Wendy’s fast-food restaurant was burned down.

https://www.democracynow.org/2020/6/15/headlines/calls_mount_to_investigate_as_2_black_men_found_hanging_from_trees_in_california_10_days_apart

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most people improve through repetition but i guess if you’re convinced you’ve got the entire universe figured out the idea that there is room for you to grow seems laughable so instead you stagnate in mediocrity and shake your fist at the rest of the world for leaving you in the dust

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if 'Gloria' can
destroy Slog
it's another
"win" for
trumpf.

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@8/12:

Speaking of deviated preverts - have either of you looked in a mirror recently?

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Abolish the dedicated police unions and roll the cops into AFSCME. Police deserve representation just like any other worker but that doesn't mean we need to retain the current mode of unionizaton or the specific role unions play in the enforcement of workplace discipline.

The existing police unions don't organize with or participate in the broader union movement. They are just rotten pocket-sized fiefs and protection rackets.

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The harrowing scene you’ve just described is an argument against sending people with weapons to respond to non-violent non-emergencylies, like even the cops’ lives were put at risk bc their actions escalated a situation that literally started with someone sleeping. Just send an emt to check in on him and drop a ticket in the mail.

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@27 Suppose he tells the EMT to fuck off and drives away? He'd already driven drunk in order to get to the Wendy's, how do you think he was planning to get home? This wasn't an emergency medical situation, it was a crime in progress. Unless you think we should stop having laws against DWI, this was clearly a police matter.

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Suppose he grows wheels out of his ass and doesn’t need his car anymore. We can all present what-ifs that could theoretically be better or worse but arguing there is no better alternative to resolve civil infractions than using the threat of lethal force, even after an event where said threat led to a man’s death — not to mention the apparent possibility that the cops could have been killed, too — seems just mind numbingly stupid, like using fear of uncertainty to ensure we never learn anything from experience.

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@29 How many people die every year in drug or alcohol related car accidents? How many more would die if drunk driving wasn't a crime? How do you think those numbers compare to the number of people killed in confrontations with cops who were trying to arrest them for DWI? What other crimes do you think we should decriminalize? Domestic violence perhaps? I mean if you send cops to stop a guy beating up his wife somebody might get hurt.

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I never mentioned decriminalizing anything, just changing the way we manage non-violent civil infractions, but your question mark laden response doesn’t exactly disprove my point that fear of uncertainty is the only tool in your wheelhouse

(btw - and i can’t believe you need this to be explained to you - domestic violence is inherently not non-violent)

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but since you brought it up, decriminalizing sex work & drugs would probably be cool

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@31 Changing the law so something is a civil infraction instead of a crime is what decriminalize means. Decriminalization is what Portugal did with illegal drugs.

Drunk driving is analogous to domestic violence in that both place innocent people in immediate danger of death or serious injury. Most drunk drivers don't kill anybody but most domestic abusers don't murder their victims either. Why do you think one should be dealt with as a crime (police take you to jail) and the other only warrants a strongly worded letter from a city official? I think liberals who want to decriminalize the possession of small quantities of illegal drugs have point, but the idea that DWI shouldn't be a crime, that's just crazy talk. I mean we know that DWI enforcement saves lives because it wasn't done all that much until the 1980s, so like policy experts can make before and after comparisons.

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my point is we should send in first responders who are better equipped to deal with the circumstances at hand rather than depending on people with guns to handle everything bc not all crimes or infractions or whatever are inherently violent

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@34 - strict laws against drunk driving are the result of millions of American citizens demanding change from their lawmakers. They were sick of the deaths of their loved ones and they made it known. Unlike today, they achieved their goals without violence. Forming professional organizations and lobbying congress. You should commend that. I don't think most Americans want to roll back the criminal laws against drunk driving.

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"A new plant has appeared at the top of Teletubby hill inside CHOP/CHAZ. Judging from the leaves, it appears to be oak?"

I support the sentiment but teletubby hill is a thin layer of soil atop geo-foam atop a concrete reservoir. (There's no wilderness in the city, my dudes.) Stop planting stuff in Cal Anderson. We have a parks department for parks and p-patches for the hippie-dippies.

I'm going to guess that the person that planted that doomed tree is a doomed transplant themselves...

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@13 -- Countries with really strong teacher unions have really good schools. The biggest difference between their educational system and ours is that they fund all schools well. We fund schools regionally, which means wealthy districts have good schools, and poor districts struggle. (Somehow Mercer Island does really well despite the powerful unions). Anyway, unions generally improve the quality of the staff, although there are exceptions, and many police unions take a "circle the wagons" approach. Improving the police force will likely take place by improving and working with the union, not trying to break it.

Back to education, here is an interesting article about the Finland school system, which is generally considered the best in the world:
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/innovation/why-are-finlands-schools-successful-49859555/. I'll quote one relevant part:

“Equality is the most important word in Finnish education. All political parties on the right and left agree on this,” said Olli Luukkainen, president of Finland’s powerful teachers union.

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@34 & @35 - He wasn't simply sleeping; he had passed out due to intoxication at the wheel in the drive-thru. So, he was preventing the restaurant from using their drive-thru, and since he was in the drive-thru, he clearly intended to drive away once he came to. Anytime, someone may need to be taken into custody for a crime, in this case DWI/DUI, send the police. People resist arrest far more often than the public realizes, and only cops are trained for that...and only cops can enter the jail with a prisoner to take before the magistrate.

That said, I can't imagine myself or most any officer I worked with on any sort of regular basis shooting this guy. Taser claims a range of 16 feet, but that's where the darts fall feebly to the ground. Real-life range to penetrate clothing is about 6 feet...at best. They won't penetrate a vest, period. And they only have 1 shot.

If this officer had been alone, and the suspect took his taser and did not run away, shooting may...may...be justified. You can't let yourself be tased, because the assailant can then easily take your firearm to use on you...or someone else.

But the officer wasn't alone. And the suspect was running away. He has 1 shot of a Taser with an effective range of 4-6 feet, a fact of which he is unaware. Tail him at a distance until he ineffectively fires it, and then move in and take him down. Even if he tases you, your partner (and probably another officer or 3 by that point) is there to make sure he cannot take your gun in the 30 or so seconds it takes you to recover.

So, while DWI/DUI is a crime that requires custodial arrest, it was not necessary to shoot this guy, and most officers would not have, at least most of the ones I was ever around.

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@35 -- I realize you aren't very smart, and probably have not considered how things are run outside this country. But before you write another stupid statement, you might consider doing just a little bit of research. You see, not everything is done the way things are done in America. Here are some articles about policing outside the U. S.:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/police-protests-countries-reforms/2020/06/13/596eab16-abf2-11ea-a43b-be9f6494a87d_story.html
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2015/02/18/5-countries-where-police-officers-do-not-carry-firearms-and-it-works-well/
https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2020/06/america-police-violence-germany-georgia-britain/612820/

So, to answer your question while quoting from the second article, this is how someone will deal with a violent drunk:

Joachim Kersten, a senior research professor of criminology at the German Police University, told me that police training in Germany covers everything from how to respond to cases of domestic violence to how to disarm someone with a lethal weapon. In the latter case, he said, “the emphasis is not on using weapons or shooting.” Rather, trainees are encouraged to de-escalate, resorting to lethal force only when absolutely necessary.

[By the way, that first article was written by the Washington Post, but it appeared in this morning's Seattle Times. Reading the local morning paper used to be common in the U. S., and is a good way to reduce the enormous levels of ignorance you show on a regular basis. ]

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36, I’ve never argued for rolling back criminal charges for drunk driving, just not sending cops as 1st responders to every last situation where people are either breaking the law or causing a public disturbance

39, fair points all around. I appreciate your expertise.

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@41 - gotcha loud and clear. Keep the law, just don't enforce it.

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not sure how you get that from anything i’ve so much as implied let alone said loud & clear

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@44 - You said several times this was a civil infraction, something that shouldn't require police. You implied that sending social workers instead of police would be the appropriate response. We are then left to ponder the question - would Mr. Brooks have voluntarily submitted to arrest and jail booking (as called for in the duly passed law) by a social worker instead of an armed police officer?

I believe and I imagine most reasonable people agree, Mr. Brooks would not have voluntarily submitted to arrest and jail booking.

At this point, the unarmed social worker is left with two choices - "de-escalate" the situation by choosing not to enforce the law or call the police.

If you don't support sending the armed police in the first place, logic dictates you support the first choice - turn a blind eye to the law.

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45 yeah i know i misspoke & clarified several times that i was making a general point that we should not expect the cops to manage every aspect of civil life but thx for the reminder that you are incapable of disagreeing with someone in good faith