Good. Cops who kill need to lose their jobs and be prosecuted. Every time. They have proven time and time again they CAN take people alive (see all the white men with guns, even the ones shooting at police, taken alive every time). If they kill, they need to no longer be cops and they need to be prosecuted for killing. The only way cops will stop murdering people is if their lives depend on them NOT killing people. They know they can do it. They refuse to stop doing it because they are not being held accountable. Hold cops accountable for killing someone every single time. What's that you say? People won't become cops? Good. Automatic defunding of the police will happen then. Either is a win-win for everyone.

Won't be feeding trolls. Just going to post my thoughts and move on. Do not care if you disagree with my opinion.

I hear he's speaking at the RNC next week.

See, these are the cops we don't need to keep.

Blue Lives Murder

Holy cripes. When are the superiors, prosecutors etc. who did nothing about this nutcase being brought up on charges?

Yeah, I just did a quick search and found a (3 year old) study that showed 27% of officers ever discharge their weapons over the course of their career. It's presumably a small-ish fraction of those officers that actually injure a suspect upon doing so, and an even smaller percentage still that kill someone. And this freaking guy has killed three people in less than a decade!?! Fuck.

https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2017/02/08/a-closer-look-at-police-officers-who-have-fired-their-weapon-on-duty/

Why does it say “allegedly shot” instead of just “shot”? I get trying to be careful when reporting on criminal cases, but it’s appears that there is 100% certainty as to who was shot and who the shooter was. Whether it is was a crime or not is yet to be determined, but shooting is not alleged.

@7: Interesting article, but there's no discussion of a baseline that compares the firing gun data with the gender data of the police departments. Given that there are more male offices than female, even if they each fired their weapons only three times, you could still say white male officers discharged more. Similarly with race.

@10,

Oh, there's a shitload of "noise" baked into those stats no doubt. Possible the guy's various assignments landed him in considerably more violent and weapon discharge prone situations, etc. Though three seems absurd, regardless of circumstances.

I only looked it up now because I'd previously heard much LOWER than that 27% number, like single digits low. Maybe ol' Morty will weigh in here and give a first person's account and perspective. Personally if I killed two people going about my job, "justified" or not, I think I'd place a high priority on looking for a new career. I'd bet a fortune this guy's ex-military.

@12 Aging Dbag - yeah, we know. That pretty much sums up every comment you've ever made here.

So this blue bastard is literally a serial killer. And his fellow officers apparently did nothing to stop him.

Perhaps the single greatest change I have seen since George Floyd was lynched is prosecutors charging police with crimes. In this case it coincides with the passage of initiative 940.

I agree it's an appropriate charge. I see in this particular case the King County prosecutor's office went without requesting cash bail, which I have never seen them pass on even for far less serious crimes. I wonder why that is? I'm going to be an optimist and assume it's because they are finally seeing he problem with cash bail rather than the more cynical view that he is getting special treatment.

Assuming this goes to trial, that will be the real test. The Prosecutor decides what evidence is used and perhaps more importantly what evidence is not used. That means ever as prosecutors they can essentially act as a second defense attorney when they choose. On paper a judge makes the final determination what does and does not get in, but in practice judges generally defer to whatever the prosecutor what.

We are a long ways from done. It will be interesting to see how this proceeds once the current police scrutiny has passed and these decisions return to being decided in the dark.

I smell a really nice plea bargain strolling down the lane.

This was a horrible murder (again) of a young Black man in the prime of life. Can anyone deny that this is institutionalized racism? Again and again same story.

Those that believe the system is not corrupt and can be reformed are delusional. Both political parties are to blame. We have people protesting against a police state in the streets and we have fear mongering politicians who have written crime bills and sent POC and poor people to prison for years lying to you. Do you think they will do anything different? Not unless they have to.

They keep killing and they keep sending MILLIONS into a horrific prison industrial complex. All those in power care about is their big paychecks and comfy lives that we pay for. While many suffer.

I will not answer trolls and I will keep writing.

@8: 'Why does it say “allegedly shot” instead of just “shot”?'

Because the prosecutor, Satterberg, has to prove all of this in court. Unless he gets a jury to convict the accused, it's all just allegations. That's how "presumption of innocence" works.

@17: "Those that believe the system is not corrupt and can be reformed are delusional. Both political parties are to blame."

The entire reason this story exists is because we, the people, began reforming the system with I-940. But hey, anger always works better than fact for you, doesn't it?

"I will not answer trolls and I will keep writing."

If anyone can make #BLM and police reform sound bad, it's you.

@18 You perhaps explain why the first paragraph contains "allegedly" but further down is:

"Satterberg said Officer Nelson began "a series of seven punches toward Seray's head and upper body." In the scuffle, "Nelson is seen pushing Seray against a freezer box," where he "fires one shot into Seray's torso, then clears a round that jammed in his pistol, and fires a second shot into Seray's forehead, 3.44 seconds later."

Maybe it it was that the first paragraph was written by Rich, who could be sued, but of course Satterberg can not. Ironically for probably similar reasons to those that let cops usualy get away with shooting people.

@19: Kudos to Rich for good reporting. But Satterberg also uses the formula as well:

"We allege that officer Nelson's actions with regard to both shots were unreasonable," Satterberg said.