I wonder if trump has ever actually been to Portland. He doesn’t seem to get out much.

Donald Trump is a mess and has been for years. He needs to be put down.

Do what for them? What a fucking idiot. Have the military everywhere in the city all at once and fuck up all the "normal" shit that is going on in 99.9% of it too? This guy -- uh, needs to go. Plus his heroes waving his nazi flags were driving shit that no commonplace Portlander would ever drive -- thus from out of town. I was down in PDX last year and my step dad and mom took forever to find a place to park trying to visit me at my hotel. He drives a Ford F-350. Those trucks don't fit. They were there to intimidate and that is all and give zero fucks about Portland and what happens in a city they don't live in.

“I am concerned your presence will only hinder our healing...I am concerned your presence will only delay our work to overcome division and move forward together.”

Quite the boilerplate for any public tragedy since 2016.

@6 No it won't dipshit. WI has been so gerrymandered it isn't funny. I have friends in "high places" in WI. He, Ron Johnson, old R governor Walker are hated with passions we actually don't see in "normal" states. One friend of mine works as supervisor for Madison Metro. You couldn't be more wrong. If Milwaukee turns out in droves he won't win by the impressive gerrymandered ~22,000 landslide he had over Clinton.

@8 gerrymanders don't influence presidential outcomes within individual states. I don't know what will happen in the fall but the same demographic trends that are moving Colorado, Texas and Georgia from red to purple to blue are moving states like Wisconsin from blue to purple to red.

Trump has fucked things up so bad that he'll have a hard time winning, but the deck is stacked against democrats for the next decade or so.

Is the Shoreline person the same as that one who claimed to have a villa in Italy?

I see that the ring-wing commentariat have a new fantasy regarding Rittenhouse. It's that Rittenhouse had actually been hired to provide security for the business he was at and was also selflessly using his expert medical skills to render aid to wounded protesters when he was suddenly and viciously attacked by murderous thugs intent on beating him to death for the crime of merely saving lives. Of course, he had to shoot to defend himself! He then raced to the police to report the incident but had to drop a few more of the murderous thugs along the way who were intent on covering up what happened by killing him. What else is a hard-working security guard who saves lives supposed to do?

I am not shitting.

The military overall may be sour on Trump, but the primarily white combat arms are still solidly for him. That could be a problem if the shit truly does hit the fan in this country come November.

I was over in Eastern WA this last weekend, and on Saturday morning a couple of feeble old coots were driving their ridiculously oversized trucks with ridiculously oversized trump flags On them all over the neighborhood, which makes me wonder if this was some national effort. I know that they had a “boaters for trump” thing on Lake Roosevelt a few weeks back.

“Is the Shoreline person the same as that one who claimed to have a villa in Italy?”

I had forgotten all about him, seatackled dear! I don’t think it was Our David. He doesn’t strike me as a geographically minded person.

@18

Maybe Italy was a metaphor for Shoreline? From what I recall of the other one, there was a tendency to put the most deluded types of interpretations on events that always put the extreme right wingers in the most positive light. Though I guess you could say the same about that white nationalist Teddy person, too.

30 years ago every gun owner I knew was a grizzled Vietnam vet that never shut up about how guns are not toys. Now gun owners are a bunch of doughy LARPers who won’t shut it about feeling threatened.

Probably fine.

Chase is a Virgo! That explains so much...

Congratulations on what appears to be a promotion from digital editor to Editor

Catalina, please be careful when traveling to Eastern WA: Protect yourself and others when over there by wearing a mask. Hopefully you're already doing that.

@18 & 19: Oh! Seattleblues. He lived on the Eastside I think? Ran some kind of home reno outfit, and lord could he tell some whoppers!
@26 & 28: ATTENTION! Arts & Crafts time will commence in the day room after morning medication. Please report any increase in paranoia and/or delusions to the duty nurse at that time.

hey dear, thank you for the advice. I must say that our little corner of Eastern WA is very mask compliant. Probably because the main employers in our little town are the Federal Government (Bureau of Reclamation), the school district, and the local medical center.

There is one distressing business (a "variety store") that flaunts the mask requirement. They also sell trump hats and are collecting signatures for some dumbass initiative that would limit the governor's powers during emergencies. There is no reason to shop there and every reason not to. I sincerely hope Wal-Mart (just down the road a piece) does them in.

@28 - Keep up. Some dark corners of the right-wingiverse are saying he was rendering medical aid to people when he was attacked, which is not only incorrect; it's a lie.

You may want to read up on Wisconsin law. He does not have a right to defend another's property with deadly force. He was not employed by anyone (another lie). He cannot be licensed security at 17 anyway.

There is no "stand your ground" in Wisconsin, so he had a duty to retreat if able, and given the wide open space where the 1st killing occurred with what appear to be multiple paths of escape, he was able. Since he very arguably murdered someone, a citizen who reasonably believes (reasonable person standard again) he committed a felony (murder) may attempt to apprehend him and hold him for the police...with force if need be.

So, his final 2 victims were attempting to apprehend him for what they reasonably believed (almost certainly correctly) was a murder, and he therefore has exactly zero claim to self-defense.

Hey, maybe there's a reason he sitting in jail! Maybe the cops there know more than you and actually understand their own law! Or have the cops made an unlawful arrest of one of their most fervent supporters for merely trying to give them a hand and are now holding him as a political prisoner?

Fear not, tho, I'm certain the little punk-ass vigilante will beat the rap. There's just enough chaos to muddy things up to the point of causing at least 1 juror to think, "Hey maybe it was self-defense if he was trying to protect property. He's is a little twerp who is probably scared of his own shadow." They may mistakenly put you on the jury or someone close enough.