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That was a good compilation, NG. Thx!

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Speaking of: “Four people sue Facebook over Kenosha, Wisconsin protests: The civil complaint alleges that Facebook gave a platform for groups to recruit and ‘empowered right wing militias to inflict extreme violence and deprive Plaintiffs and protesters of their rights… ‘”

here’s this, from Amy Goodman’s Democracy Now:
Federal Agents Tapped Cellphones of Portland Protest

The Nation magazine is reporting federal officials with the Justice Department and Homeland Security have intercepted the phone communications of protesters in Portland.

The Nation reports the surveillance involved cellphone cloning, where the government steals a phone’s unique identifiers and copies them to another device in order to intercept the communications received by the original device.

Oregon Senator Jeff Merkley has called for a full investigation. He wrote on Twitter, “The Trump admin has treated the people of Portland like enemy combatants. These tactics—like cell phone cloning to spy on protestors—are unacceptable in America.”

https://www.democracynow.org/2020/9/23/headlines

Velcommon to trumpfism [Fascism] in America
fellow [former] AMERICAN Citizens.

Where Pandemics & police spying are gonna be the very least of your Worries.

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Trump's already got death squads running around. It won't be long before he sends them after elected officials and other political opponents.

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@3 -- I'm already thinking of changing my Party affiliation to Leans Heavily Fascist -- it's really quite popular -- like a great big Club!

Which is our beloved Symbol, obviously.

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@2: Thanks krisofarian - never heard about phone cloning before. Here's how to tell if you phone might have been cloned:

https://www.techlicious.com/tip/how-to-tell-if-your-phone-has-been-cloned/

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Information left out about the state of live music venues - the crew who put on events and other production companies are just as screwed as the live music venues without forthcoming aid. And if we are left without aid much longer the whole infrastructure that gets people ons stages and supports big events like tours, festivals, etc will be gutted.

There was a national day of action to this effect on September 1st, when crew marched in cities across the US and buildings were lit red. And the campaign is ongoing.

You can go to wemakeevents.org, livemusiccoalition.org, and nivassoc.org to find ways to get involved (mostly writing your elected officials and asking that they pass the RESTART Act, whether as part of a larger aid package or a standalone bill)

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Portland and Seattle should sue FB over the far right white nationalist drive by shooters

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@ 7,

Zuckerberg's appalling baby bangs are another one of his crimes against humanity.

That and providing the world's largest platform for Tr666p's refried white trash nazism.

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"Ginsburg's dying wish was to be replaced before next year's presidential inauguration." That doesn't seem correct.

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14: Indeed it isn't - it was be be installed by the next president which wouldn't be until Biden or Trump is sworn in on Jan 21.

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@16 he's referring to community in more of a figurative sense. He means to say the "white community".

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us White folk works too

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@20 -- that sounds suspiciously
Un-American.

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Nobody thinks its strange that lily white teens from the midwest feel so hopeless under this president that they choose to drop out of school to hunt minorities? Seems like this might be an issue to focus on. Maybe get some socialism going and give these kids a couple free years at a community college so they have some real job skills?

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@17 You've got the wrong information. None of the businesses in Kenosha asked for help from the traveling militia members, and the police barred them from the car dealerships they claimed to be protecting, at which point they moved into the streets and started murdering protestors.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/27/us/kyle-rittenhouse-kenosha-shooting-video.html

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@18/19: No, it's more malleable than that. It could be anything from local to nationwide of any demographic. Community doesn't need defining because it stands by itself.

The sheer fact that you're trying to read in some racist narrative into such an innocuous term points to the real problem going on.

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@25:

Fuck off, racist.

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@26: Totally predictable. Profanity outbursts typically occur when fear of not being able to define the narrative is suddenly taken away.

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@27 -- perhaps those who persuaded the rwnj to Rampage bear some Culpability as well. Speaking of Justice.

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*is suddenly apparent.

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@30: I guess what I'm trying to get at is why can't we try to give people the benefit of the doubt when it comes to racism?

If we don't give that deference, we'll never make progress as a society.

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@28:

Fuck off, troll.

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@17

This is some of the dumbest shit you've posted yet. GTFO. Who calls 17 year old kids to "defend" their business? Are you a grown person? Do you enlist minors to protect your shit? Is this kid fuckin' Batman or something?

He murdered people and you’re cool with it because you share his ideology. Just say it.

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@26 have you considered that you are a piece of shit? I mean, I'm sure Brian Bosworth thinks hes a good person too.

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@37: I suppose you find that empowering.

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You guys have your knickers in a twist because Comte posts as he does but have no issue with how Trump denigrates others. Good for goose = good for gander.

What really takes the cake is thinking it’s plausible for some random business owner to call a minor in another state he doesn’t know to illegally bring a firearm across state lines. Suuuure....

The kid watched too much Fox News, thought he was a bad ass and headed to Kenosha. He killed a guy without provocation, was chased then killed another guy. He’s lucky he didn’t get stomped to death. If he were a black kid the cops at the end of the street would have shot him to death for holding a gun.

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@40 My guess is he finds it threatening which is all he needs to shoot you these days (assuming he's white).

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@46: Amazing how unglued people become when prompted to re-evaluate their racial stereotyping.

I have no idea what race COMTE is, nor do I care.

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@17,

I'd not heard that the business owner reached out to a minor for "assistance" in this capacity. If true, and he knew that KR was a minor and not legally permitted to own the weapon, much less provide armed security in this respect, he/she should be charged as an accomplice.

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That Atlantic piece is some bizarro world shit. Other sites are also reporting Trump is making "contingency" plans if he loses the election. WTF are we going to do if he refuses to concede and causes a Constitutional crisis?

If grown people will buy into defending Rittenhouse, they sure as hell will line up to defend Trump's destruction of democracy.

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@39:

Fuck off, wanker.

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@40:

Fuck off, racist troll.

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@52:

Not knowing what occurred prior to the image in the NYT timeline, there's no guarantee he has a case for self defense at all. How are we to know HE didn't in some way incite the group that chased him? You can't commit a crime (e.g. brandishing, which is illegal under WI law: https://docs.legis.wisconsin.gov/statutes/statutes/941/iii/20) and THEN claim "self defense" as an after-effect of that crime. Plus, "self-defense" in the way you imply doesn't appear to be legal under Wisconsin law either, since it doesn't meet the criteria for privilege to use deadly force:

https://www.usconcealedcarry.com/resources/ccw_reciprocity_map/wi-gun-laws/

Not to mention the fact he was already in-violation of WI firearms laws, given he was under age and open carrying, so in this case there's simply no way a multitude of wrongs on his part is ever going to make a right.

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Heated expletives are occasionally appropriate, but the more mature of us prefer to avoid gratuitous and repetitive insulting.

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"WTF are we going to do if he [the Fascist in the White House] refuses to concede and causes a Constitutional crisis?"

Excellent question, Lastlight.
Looks like we gotta go to
the Socialist, once again:

from today's NYT:

Bernie Sanders Sounds Alarm on a Trump ‘Nightmare Scenario’

Warning that this election is an “extremely dangerous moment” for the country, he said in an interview that he would aggressively push to try to stop President Trump from delegitimizing the vote.

In a phone interview on Monday evening, Mr. Sanders said he would spend the next six weeks urging the country to prepare for a “nightmare scenario” in which Mr. Trump declares himself the winner of the election and refuses to step down even if he loses.

As part of his effort, he is set to deliver a speech in Washington on Thursday — his first in-person appearance related to the election since before he dropped out of the presidential race — to outline in stark terms the danger that he says Mr. Trump poses to the nation’s democracy.

“We are living in an unprecedented and dangerous moment — extremely dangerous moment — in American history,” Mr. Sanders said.

“And what this speech is going to be about is whether or not the United States of America will continue to be a democracy and a nation ruled by law and our Constitution.”

more at:
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/22/us/politics/bernie-sanders-trump-nightmare-scenario.html?action=click&algo=bandit-all-surfaces&block=trending_recirc&fellback=false&imp_id=82946039&impression_id=d8f3ce59-fe10-11ea-8735-0114550ba66e&index=9&pgtype=Article&region=footer&req_id=585863571&surface=most-popular

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Your Fear appears fully Justified, Lastlight
this, also from today's NYT:

Trump Won’t Commit to ‘Peaceful’ Post-Election Transfer of Power

In response to a question, the president complained about mail-in ballots and said: “There won’t be a transfer, frankly. There will be a continuation.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/23/us/politics/trump-power-transfer-2020-election.html?action=click&module=Top%20Stories&pgtype=Homepage

translation:

I Ain't Goin' ANY Where.

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"Hours after Mr. Trump’s assertions, Senator Mitt Romney, Republican of Utah, expressed alarm over the comments on Twitter.

'Fundamental to democracy is the peaceful transition of power; without that, there is Belarus,' Mr. Romney wrote.

'Any suggestion that a president might not respect this Constitutional guarantee is both unthinkable and unacceptable.'"

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/23/us/politics/trump-power-transfer-2020-election.html?action=click&module=Top%20Stories&pgtype=Homepage

Oh, MIttens -- you're so very Mavericky!
Way to Stand Up to our Dictator!

Perhaps he'll make you
Ambassador to Hades.


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