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Imagine if this country cancelled Thanksgiving permanently. Instead of celebrating a false narrative, it stopped lying to children from the time they were born and told the truth - that there was no Thanksgiving dinner with "Indians and Pilgrims." Instead, 700,000 Native Americans were slaughtered and then the colonists sat down and ate a big meal with food they learned how to cultivate in the land they stole. After that they spread disease like crazy, killing countless more Native Americans. And as time went on they treated Native Americans like they weren't there when they showed up, like they were savages that needed to be trained like animals (to behave like them, because white supremacists are nothing but animals), and then further along ghettoized and demonized and "given" portions of land on which to live as a "gift" from their land grabbing, genocidal, colonists. Imagine if this country had enough self-awareness and desire to change to do that.

Instead we have people insisting they have to have Thanksgiving dinner and spread disease just like their original white supremacist terrorists. How many people will get sick? How many people will die? Only time will tell.

It's truly mind boggling how fucking stupid nearly half of this country is. Dumber than fucking dirt. So I guess this is just the Darwinian culling, right? Except it isn't because it's not just the dumb fucks who end up sick and dead. And the people working as doctors, nurses, and others (EMTs, etc.) are expected to treat them and save their lives, even if they are denying the existence of COVID until they take their very last breath.

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how long til we look back in Wonder at our ability to tolerate the Intolerable

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Title o' The Year
ng!

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@3: Don't you have anything to be thankful for?

https://youtu.be/DXKxazgio2s

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@6 Yes. And I am thankful for all of it every day. 17, 410 days and counting.

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PS not going to your link.

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@9 Harvest festivals may be common worldwide, but please let's not pretend that the holiday of Thanksgiving isn't perpetuated (and perpetuated on purpose) as a whitewashed lie of a horrific history of genocide and colonization. It is used to brainwash children in this country, using fantasy to indoctrinate them with white supremacist ideology.

What is taught as history in this country from Columbus sailed the ocean blue to the current day BS of this country no longer being a white supremacist country in all policy and action has nothing to do with reality. And almost half of the country is hell bent on making sure that doesn't change. They have too much invested in it and would rather destroy the entire country than change, evolve, allow true equality, pay reparations, allow acknowledgement of the truth, and face themselves.

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"but please let's not pretend that the holiday of Thanksgiving isn't perpetuated (and perpetuated on purpose) as a whitewashed lie of a horrific history of genocide and colonization."

That's your view of it. I suppose you can pretend that everyone agrees with you.

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It is widely thought that many of the early First Nations mass deaths were in fact caused by sick Europeans infecting the local population at communal gatherings, like friendly harvest festivals.

So, in a way, we're just repeating our prior actions, and causing mass deaths that most White Americans are less vulnerable to.

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@12 That's not my view of it. That's fact. Reality exists and it matters. Your refusal to acknowledge it (let alone live in it) is irrelevant.

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Thanksgiving: The annual genocide whitewash

Americans continue celebrating a holiday that whitewashes the mass killing of millions of Native Americans.

https://www.aljazeera.com/opinions/2017/11/23/thanksgiving-the-annual-genocide-whitewash/

The biggest holiday fairy tale is one that has been used, not just to entertain the youthful imagination, but instead for social programming and the whitewashing of our history; and that is the truth of Thanksgiving.

https://www.gaia.com/article/the-truth-about-thanksgiving

The Invention of Thanksgiving
Massacres, myths, and the making of the great November holiday.

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2019/11/25/the-invention-of-thanksgiving

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@14: It's a holiday that celebrates a harvest dinner that occurred. That's its essence and all that is needed to celebrate the holiday.

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There’s no need to “cancel” Thanksgiving. Using words like that play into the simple-minded conservative talking points we see so often, even here on Our Dear Slog.

We’re having a full Thanksgiving with Mr Vel-DuRay, Grandmother Vel-DuRay (who lives with us) and myself.

It’s really that simple.

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Let's call 11/26/2020 Happy Karma Day... And for you fuckwits proclaiming your freedumb.... How many of you will be around to celebrate 11/25/2021?

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@17 - everything plays into their talking points because they claim persecution over everything

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@20 -- too long
didn't read but

yes, Jane Fonda
WAS Correct -- Corporate
Dems suck Just as Much as
trumpf-humping psycophants
(such as Yourself) do. have you any More?

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@20: Riiiiiiiiiiiiiight, Doofy. Still pissed that Joe Biden and Kamala Harris legitimately won the 2020 General Election by 6 MILLION VOTES AND COUNTING, huh? And now your SuperFriends onesies are in a wad. Awwwwwwwwww. Well, despite your lies, unsupported hate speech and usual drivel, parroting Trumpty Dumpty's stubborn refusal to concede and lame attempts at a coup, the major networks have declared Biden / Harris the winners. GSA Administrator Emily Murphy has given the Biden / Harris team the transitional go-ahead, FINALLY, after 3 weeks of Trumpty Dumpty's idiotic and fruitless stalling. Michigan, Pennsylvania, Arizona, and Georgia have certified Biden / Harris as the winners. Crawl back into your little hide-y-hole in mom's basement with your Cocoa Puffs, mice, and spiders.
OH!---AND------Loren Culp officially LOST by 550,000 legitimate votes to three-time elected Washington Governor, Jay Inslee---to return to his little one horse MAGA Republic to find that its town council voted to defund its one-mn police force. Ferry County deputies got sick and tired of covering Culp's lying, unmasked ass during his lame run for Governor. Even Washington Secretary of State, Kim Wyman declared incumbent Inslee as re-elected. And she's-----(GASP!!!) a-a Republican! Get OVER it, already, pool boy.
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAHHH!

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@20: By the way, that's an interesting avatar, Doofy. Are you always this much in the dark?

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FFS nobody is celebrating Thanksgiving. Nobody. The Stranger is the one hawking a false narrative and you are the only ones fixated on past history,

What they are celebrating is the only holiday office workers and other M-F employees get that gives us a 4 day weekend in a culture stingy about time off. Just started the job and don't have any vacation accrual? Here's a 4 day weekend. Got a big project at home you don't have time for and no PTO to spare? Here's a 4 day weekend. Haven't seen relatives in some time and you really want to save your regular vacation for that trip (fill in destination)? Here's a 4 day weekend. Four days to sleep in and goof off that doesn't touch your regular PTO account.

NO ONE is sitting around the table, rubbing their hands with glee as they recount stories of how the White Man took over. This is the furthest thing from anyone's mind. They are pondering football, food, the latest gossip from relatives, and at what point they should really begin that diet. History? Are you fucking kidding? This is only in the fever dreams of writers for progressive publications. What you should be writing about is why we don't have MORE holidays like this with 4 days off in a row.

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@25 Yes. It's four days off. Of course, you need PTO to get paid for those four days, but you don't have to show up for work.

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@9 yet you still refer to native americans as indians.

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@27 -- and yet a full step or so above injuns
to quote that great Saviour o' the West*

*John the Duke Wayne
('who knew that [racist] sonofabitch could Act?'
--John Ford, on seeing the Duke in Howard Hawks' 'the Quite Man')

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Quiet
not quite

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As a white male who was raised in a culture that was steeped in the whole WASP-y mythology, I have never regarded, nor was I taught, that Thanksgiving was some sort of celebration of genocide, or even of the colonizers.

Rather, it was just one step below a Holy Day of Obligation in the Vel-DuRay household. Papa Vel-DuRay used to drag me to mass at the church at Creighton University every Thanksgiving morning, probably to give Mother Vel-DuRay a break while she prepared a huge dinner for both family and the various lonesome students that my Uncle - a professor at Creighton - would bring home. (That’s one of the reasons I learned how to cook in the first place - so that I could stay at home with mom, rather than go to Mass.)

Thanksgiving was about gratitude, and welcoming strangers. No cornball pilgrim Schtick.

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and our freedom to Inflict's
gotta be an Amendment asap.

neocon savages
covid ravages
freedom to inflict
you must convict
all the rest to your
Selfish childish Whims....

a nation of whining children
lacking Joy and Common Sense.

thnx repubs.

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Real Anti-Fascist, please define what a fascist is.

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outerlibbbbbitz dear, Dr. Erickson has been pretty mum since he made that statement back in May. Perhaps his chain of “urgent care” facilities finally saw the impact of the disease?

In any event, he has been debunked by people far more intelligent than you and I. You really should strive to acknowledge that you don’t know everything, dear.

https://www.kqed.org/news/11814749/bakersfield-doctors-dubious-covid-19-test-conclusions-spread-like-wildfire

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Biden COVID-19 adviser: Many who celebrated Thanksgiving with family or friends will be in ICUs over Christmas

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/biden-covid-19-adviser-many-who-celebrated-thanksgiving-with-family-or-friends-will-be-in-icus-over-christmas/

As was mentioned in this article - health care workers have families and lives, too. This country is in for a shock when these people who have been working their asses off for 9 months now just fucking quit. What will happen then? Why should they be expected to just work for years fighting this pandemic when people can't fucking do what they need to do to stop the spread? Thousands of health care professionals have already died. Thousands more are sick with COVID. Thousands more have quit their jobs and some of them have killed themselves because of what they've been through and what they've seen and how they see no respite, no end, no relief, no rest.

This country doesn't need an outside entity to destroy it. It is destroying itself, willfully and purposefully and honestly, it's incomprehensible to me.


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