Those are the lyrics for the song Angela by Bob James though the song is an instrumental.

Proud boys= trump supporters
Antifa = don’t like Democrats or GOP
There are more than 2 sides.

My Antifa friends tell me they see no difference between Biden and trump.

What, nothing about the Anime voice actress GAINAX charges?

um, ok

someone please ask the Prouds
if they'd like gov't-sponsored Healthcare
for their bumped and bruised Egos
Daycare for their barefoot cum preggers
womenfolk (redundant?) and Social Security
\Medicare should they ever happen to get Olde.

Oh and Unemployment Insurance, a Fire Dept and
WHAT ABOUT THE MILITARY -- THEE Most Socialistic
of all the Socialisms -- 3 hots a doc and a cot for as long as you Serve.

oh and Why do they HATE America?

somone wanna ask 'em for me?
thnx!

Heading to Olympia.
I heard "Springtime For Proud Boyz" is playing. Again. As usual.

@5: You're well read in these areas. You know their rhetoric. I doubt they discuss policy and economics as they're drinking schnapps around a pool table, but maybe they do. More interestingly, how do you think they'd answer your questions?

Someone got shot at a protest? Big deal. Hopefully no windows were shattered though. That would be a tragedy.

@7 -- well the Makless Wonders drink
JimmyJones's Kool-Aide™
if they drink atall but

calling for (my) Projections?
my how raincloudy of you
try again.

Maskless ffs

@9: Well, you did. You even trademarked it.

@11

pass

Anyone who refuses the vaccine needs to be barred from, at a minimum, airplanes, buses, restaurants, bars, and schools. Don't kill other people with your dumbfuckery.

@9 - I am sure that the Proud Boys drink plenty. Mostly Bud Lite no doubt. But I'll gladly buy the first round of Kool-Aid.

I'm appalled that a Seattle-based journalist would refer to DC as "Washington"

The stupid editorial reminded me of this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1BCXJ3yC65o. "A PhD is a doctorate. It is literally describing a doctor..." Pretty good rebuttal, really.

The editorial is a joke. It is full of condescending attacks by a guy who sounds like a dick. He taught at a college, likely surrounded by people who got doctorates, yet he never bothered to get one. If it so easy, why didn't he get one (since it is obviously important in the field)? Because it isn't easy, and the guy is a dick.

He compares his honorary degree with a real degree. He writes "Your degree is, I believe, an Ed.D., a doctor of education, earned at the University of Delaware through a dissertation with the unpromising title “Student Retention at the Community College Level: Meeting Students’ Needs.” "

What is with the "I believe" shit. It is public record. Like global warming, it isn't something "you believe". It just is. She got a fucking PhD in education, and it pretty easy to verify that. But he knows that, otherwise he wouldn't know the title of her dissertation. It is just an attempt to belittle her accomplishment.

As is his criticism of her dissertation, which sounds very important. Not to someone who is a snotty dick, like Epstein, but to real people, trying to improve their lives. Community College is the gateway to the middle class. It is a dream for many, and yet many struggle, for various social and economic reasons. Improving outcomes at the community college level would probably improve social mobility more than just about anything we could do. This is obvious to anyone who thinks about if for a second, but Epstein doesn't.

Epstein sounds like a jealous little prick. He is the worst type of elitist. His snotty remarks are the height of unearned arrogance. Fuck that guy, and fuck his stupid editorial.

@17,

Here's how our society works. We've entrusted a relatively small circle of well-respected and highly educated individual experts to make important decisions on behalf of the larger populace. Presumably those individuals take into account a vast number of factors before making life altering decisions regarding a given situation. It seems unlikely to me that these individuals have some distinct and finite number of casualties that they deem "acceptable" prior to making a consequential decision with regard to our society's function in this area, but even if they do it's even more unlikely they'd make this number public, and even far less likely still that some random reader of a local alt-weekly publication will for some reason have access to it.

You should really stop asking this question.

@19 (and @17) The Trump administration and the population at large that supports the Trump administration have made clear that the acceptable number of deaths is however many deaths happen. They did nothing. Trump takes no responsibility and the death count is nearly 310,000. So today that is the acceptable number. When it reaches 500,000 by the end of the year or just after New Year's Eve, THAT will be the acceptable number. When it reaches one million, THAT will be the acceptable number of deaths. Everyone in this country, those in power who have done nothing and those in the population who refuse to do what needs to be done to protect themselves and others have and continue to say loudly WE DO NOT CARE HOW MANY PEOPLE DIE. ALL OF THE PEOPLE WHO DIE DO NOT MATTER. NO MATTER HOW MANY PEOPLE DIE, WE DO NOT CARE!

Gotta love "muriKKKa. It's nothing, if not consistent in its commitment to death and destruction.

Oh, by the way, did you see the unboxing video for the vaccines delivered to UWMC? Super cool!

Most first providers should have their shots by month end, and critical workers like police fire grocery etc by the end of January or middle of February.

They even will start clinical trials for pregnant women and children then, in case anyone wanted to participate. Should be details at the NIH and CDC.

@8 - Well, if it was a really nice window, and the shot person was a Nazi or similar...

Editor-in Chief of WSJ had combative statement yesterday basically telling critics of the limp-dick misogynist Epstein to fuck off and doubling down on the validity of the column. WSJ is basically the print version of OANN anymore.

Isn't the Stranger supposed to be banning those who equate the flu and COVID 19? They are spreading lies that have deadly consequences.

@28 The really unfortunate thing is that we (ie the people who see the problem) aren't the ones who can clean house. The only people who can do that are ... Republicans. Once they stop primarying reasonable people and start primarying the nutjobs, the nutjobs will calm down a lot. Until then, we're stuck with them.

After the 2012 election, their post-mortem said that they needed to be less evil and maybe hang with racists less/less obviously. The next stop was Donald Trump, so clearly the party itself isn't getting the message.

Ooh CNN is counting the live Electoral College votes and Trump has failed out of college AGAIN!

Guess he forgot to bribe California and Hawaii.

302 Biden 232 Trump now Hawaii votes.

OUR LONG NATIONAL NIGHTMARE IS NOW OVER!

Shame we never got hyperlinking privileges back. Check out loser.com when you've a chance.

@3: And when your friends made this statement (simultaneously, collectively), did you tell them that they have shit for brains?

No? Because this is a weird fictional scenario that never happened? OK then.

It is a matter of opinion. People in different areas are deciding what their tolerance is for risk. On the whole based on current stats you have a general risk of a 1%-2% chance of death. Far less if one is under 40 and greater than if one is over 65. If one uses the infection under estimation of 5 to 8 times chance of death is well under 1%. Many are willing to accept that particularly when faced with economic ruin. Millions already have been ruined with more on the way.

Strictly binary it’s the choice of killing half a million or ruining 15 to 20 million. No telling how many of those ruined will die either directly or indirectly. There has to be a balance, it’s not one or the other. The “shut it down at all costs” crowd is making a binary choice.

If you look at states with major metro areas that didn’t go through another round of shutdowns the health care capacity and infection rates aren’t too different from what they are in areas with more strict limitations. One reason is that masks and distancing do more than arbitrarily closing parts of the economy. People that want to protect themselves are by avoiding those situations.

@5 kristofarian: Because they're really the Dumb Boys--hellbent on a starting 2nd Civil War---out fahtin' fer their Free Dumbs!

@27 & @28 : Right on, Garb! Agreed and seconded.:)

@32 Will in Seattle: Hallelujah and pass the red wine--it's February 3rd (metamorphically speaking, anyway) at LAST! At last at last, we're free at LAST!

I'm still smiling over Trumpty Dumpty's campaign crew presser in Philly getting booked at the Four Seasons-----LANDSCAPING, in a crematorium back lot next door to a dildo shop.
That's the GOP---the Grossly Oblivious Party---finally killed off by their own stupidity.