Slog AM: Supreme Court Reinstates Trump's "Remain in Mexico" Policy; Grown-Up Baby on Nevermind Cover Sues Nirvana; OnlyFans Says Porn Is OK, Actually

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shit, now I'm hungry for paninis.

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That Nevermind kid has gone from being a baby chasing a dollar to an adult baby chasing more dollars. He can sue all he wants, but he’s only reinforcing the cynical worldview the image represents.

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Panini. LOL! 😂🤣

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But if you eat a hot dog with sauerkraut (a probiotic) it restores the lost 36 minutes -
according to the Cancelation Theory of Food!

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Schmacky - agree that it is not child pornography. (Federal definition: any visual depiction of sexually explicit conduct involving a minor.) The legal argument they are making is that because he is nude and "grasping for money" this makes it a depiction of sexual conduct, i.e. prostitution. Which is pretty weak.
However, according to other news articles, the kids' Dad was paid $200 for the photography session by the photographer and never signed a release or received any compensation at all for use of the photo on the album. So I think he probably did deserve some compensation for commercial use of his image. Given the length of time, statute of limitations, etc, claiming child pornography was probably the only legal option available to him.

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Child porn is the wrong approach to take for the Nevermind kid. He should sue for having to be associated with the most overrated band in modern history. Who would give a shit about Nirvana if Cobain were still alive? He wasnt even the best Seattle-area grunge singer to die on April 5.

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@5, I hope he recoups enough money to make up for all the derision and mockery the lawsuit will create.

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So instead of recreating the album cover by jumping into a pool, this time he decided to recreate it by grasping for some money?

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I'm no nirvana stan but smells like teen spirit singlehandedly upended rock music. The ~6 month window following its release was like watching the 80s suffocate and die in real time, bands that dominated popular music for years became irrelevant almost instantly. You don't have to like them but you can't call a band overrated when they leave a mark that big.

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So it was all a PR stunt, and they're just greedy ...

(yes, that applies to all of them)

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(and yes, Cobain is alive and well and living in Fort Sumter)

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@4: Good to know!

How I miss Taxi Dog in the Pike Place Market!

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Professor, have you had your blood pressure checked recently?

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I think Dan Satterberg may have grounds to sue Spencer Elden for label appropriation.

My understanding was that the King Country Prosecutors office has the exclusive rights to label anything involving human sexuality as "sex trafficking."

How dare this nobody try to appropriate their moral panic.

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Jasmyne - Appreciate the new tunes you drop on Slog, but wow, this band is pretty hard on the ears. Auto-Tuning is still a thing?

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the 4-paragraph article about the woman who killed her friend with her car says the accident is still under investigation

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Getting a six figure payout in an out-of-court settlement based on some petty lawsuit is the American dream! Good for that kid for pursuing it.

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@21
A little bit of Xanax makes the auto-tune go down.

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@6 Ah come on! In Utero is one of the all time great rock albums.

In any case, the Melvins are Seattle's true grunge heroes.

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update: I had a veggie w goat cheese panini and it was fucking delicious. jasmyne for mvp.

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I suppose there's no reason for Kanye's judge to simply rule: "Ney."

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Smells like bullshit.

How did he find a lawyer to take the case?

His parents consented and took $200 for the photo. He should sue them.

If it were considered child porn the record label never would have been allowed to release the album.

If this guy hadn't been bragging about being the baby on the cover of the Nevermind album for the last 30 years, NO ONE WOULD KNOW WHO HE IS.

He wants $150,000 x 15 people and companies he is suing PLUS an untold amount in damages. Dude doesn't want to work, obvs.

He is claiming since the album sold worldwide it's child trafficking. He CLEARLY does not know what child trafficking is. His dumbass lawyer should be disbarred and this case should have been thrown out before it even saw the light of day.

This guy has bragged and bragged about being on the cover of that album. He has taken photos "recreating" the album cover at least twice (with his swim shorts on). He has NEVERMIND tattooed on his chest. He has been on countless shows and in countless news stories about being the baby on the cover.

Someone must have made fun of his penis (current penis, adult penis) and now he thinks he's going to get paid claiming his penis on the cover of Nevermind is child porn and exploitation.

The world is literally burning to the ground and this is news?

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I kind of feel bad for the nevermind baby guy because he has basically been conscripted into a lifetime of being "that baby" without anything else to show for it. Not only did he not consent to any of this, but the photo was taken and paid for long before anyone knew nirvana were going to be the biggest band in the world, let alone that it would be one of the most famous album covers of all time. At the time $200 probably seemed more than fair but in hindsight the kid and his parents lost out.

I don't think this lawsuit is the answer, and the charges are an insult to actual victims of child sex abuse, but they should be able to renegotiate some sort of retroactive payout for the guy considering how much money has been earned off of his image, which is in vast excess of the 6-figures he's asking for.

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@30: xina FTW

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People can be charged for causing someone's death without the assumption they had the intent to do so, but that is entirely beside the point, which is that you clearly didn't read the article you were commenting on and now you're attempting to retcon with some legal gibberish you found on wikipedia.

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I don't understand; "reinstated Trump's policy " the former guy is not President anymore, Biden is. Now if they are talking about a law passed by Congress, then sure Biden can't override it on a whim, but if it is just the former guy's policy, why not? You can't say the former guy never "appeared to act arbitrarily and capriciously " (probably don't even need to qualify that with "appeared")

Also, "All three liberal justices dissented" again, don't understand, that seems to imply "only" the three liberals. I mean, who can tell what a Godless Commie is going to do, but I'd think that at least Ms. Coney Barrett would ask; "What Would 'least of my brethren' Jesus Do"

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@6 Agreed Nirvana led by Whine Rocker Cobain were the most overrated band, who along with the rest of the whine rock grungers basically killed rock and roll.

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Dedicated to the Professor:

https://youtu.be/4lVhc_Z-Hsw

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@32, come on, they didn’t earn anything from that image (in fact, what a shitty album cover to be honest) - the band could have earned just as much money with a pic of an acorn. The dude is a thirsty, jealous whiner who thinks he’s important but really isn’t.

Also. Great, professor frothing at the mouth is back. Awesome.

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The (Nirvana cover) kid's parent(s) signed a model release. That is completely normal and standard practice for commercial photos depicting minors. Case closed. The lawsuit will go nowhere. He can whine and complain all he wants, but the only people he could conceivably successfully sue would be his parents, and even that is a huge stretch.

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@38 -- There is a legal procedure that presidents have to follow to implement an executive policy. The same goes for changing a previous policy. In this case it is complicated, but you can read more details here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_policy_of_Donald_Trump (search for " Migrant Protection Protocols").

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@30: +1 Spot ON, xina!! Spencer Elden is suing because his globally exposed baby weiner on the 1991 cover of Nirvana's Nevermind album shortened his life span, from excessive whining and greed. How pathetic that his being the Nevermind baby is all he'll ever be known for.

In real news, the sun came up today, and the world is burning up due to human caused climate change from global warming and over 40 years of unchecked corporate greed.

I agree, Jasmyne----I'm ready for a hotdog, too.

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@43 Reverse Polarity: Methinks Spencer Elden's lawyer must be an out-of-work ambulance chaser equally desperate for megabucks.

Get out the mustard and rye bread, Grandma--------oh, Nevermind.

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@8 schmacky: Uh-oh. Griz is already guilty of Spencer Elden mockery.

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@32 -- Yeah, but he was only "that baby" because he told people about it. Holy shit, it is a picture of a baby. I'm sure he looks very different now. He could walk into a record store, hold up the album next to his face and say to the clerk "Excuse me ... I'm not that familiar with grunge. I recognize the cover, but is this a good album?" and no one would have any idea that he is "that baby". He could have done that the rest of his life, or played it even cooler, and only mention it to close friends.

He did the opposite. He obviously went overboard, and owned it. Fine. But to blame someone else for the fame he created is bullshit. The only reason anyone knows he is "that baby" is because of actions he took.