I'm just sayin'...

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The right wing is so willfully blind that it's going to take another Oklahoma City Bombing before the propagandists at Fox & Co tone down their rhetoric. Then again, even that might not do it - the epistemic closure on the right has gotten much worse since the early 90s. If there is another OCB type incident and we DON'T see a significant amount of toning down, that'll be our sign to start stocking for the apocalypse, because we'll know that America is headed for a Second Civil War.
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I'd love to provide some levity by making a wisecrack about this, but I'm just too disgusted.
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How many anecdotes does it take to make data? Because I keep seeing more and more anecdotes.
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Holy fucking shit, that lady should feel lucky to be alive. The look on that old guy's face dude, he's out for fucking blood. If he's not already in a jail cell, or at least sweating balls running from the police, he deserves to be. The guy holding her down? These people are sick, disgusting and deserve way more than just jail. These are the people who should get their right to vote stripped away just like the people who smoke pot. I know a moveon supporter probably shouldn't be trying to protest in such a large group of violent people, but in her defense I'm sure the worst she thought was being led away. Curb stomp? Jesus fucking christ people, it's just politics, go live in a fucking bunker if you think you need to curb stomp liberals, there's absolutely no hope for people like that. Please, please, please, please, please prove me wrong.
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I don't know, can you really call a long string of violent actions by Tea Party types that sync up perfectly with their rhetoric a pattern? Call me when you have two geographically-distant shark attacks or three people being killed by an esoteric disease.
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@1 Andrew Joseph Stack flew his plane into the IRS building in Austin and it was a non-story after 2 weeks.
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So the brownshirts these days aren't wearing the brownshirts. Oh wait, the right wing in this country is nothing like the Nazi's, that's the fantasy we keep telling ourselves right? Yeah, right....

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Convictions create convicts.

Once you live with an absolutely correct model, anyone who is a threat---according to the model, or to your confidence in it---_deserves_ to be stomped.

And, anyway, anything which can't be proven by sceptical observation and reason must be proved by force.
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The Teabaggers hate us for our freedom.
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@6 Joe Stack was a LEFT WINGER. Obviously you don't know jack shit about him except that he committed terrorism against the IRS.

Seems to me like those people thought she might be trying to assassinate Rand Paul, so they acted to protect him. She was wearing a disguise and she was trying to "present" something to Rand Paul.

What a stupid woman.

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See... everybody... look at #10. That will be the right's reaction the next time there's another terrorist attack from one of their own. They'll blame the left, no matter what the facts, and perhaps even seek retribution. And if their politicians are in control, they'll use this attack from the right as an excuse to crack down on and repress the left.

Read your history. That's how this shit goes down.

Like I wrote, these aren't just acts of violence, they are acts of politics.
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@11 - "They'll blame the left, no matter what the facts"

You mean besides the fact that Joe Horn was a leftist?

You mean besides the fact that the woman in the video was wearing a wig and acting suspiciously?

You would probably defend the behavior of Squeaky Fromme too.

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I am not going to watch that video - just the front image makes me cringe.

I love the word teahadist! I am going to use it. Great coinage!

@10 - And everytime a disguised person tries to present me with anything I have my friends stomp their heads. It's quite a bit of fun especially on Halloween. Not. Idiot. There is NO EXCUSE to stomp on someones head. Unless they tried to stomp on yours first. Also maybe if they take your bag of Halloween candy. Damn teahadists!
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Ooopsy. Meant to write Joe Stack @12 instead of Joe Horn.
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Yeah, 12. If you want to live in a society where we delegate force to the COPS, then you don't resort to false arrest and assault to deal with supposedly suspicious people (also, Randy has his own fucking security--he doesn't need brownshirt goons for that).
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Great way to prove you're strong, by putting your foot on a woman and holding her down.
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Most of the Conservative response to this event seems to be, "they thought she was a terrorist and that's why they did that."

Which flies in the face of all reason as Fox has been working very hard to make sure we all understand that ONLY Muslims can be terrorists.

I is confused.
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just... wow...

I bet these people have criminal records.
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@ 16 - you want to be a wimpy libtard that doesn't take responsibility for your own security and safety, go right ahead. When seconds count, the cops are only minutes away!
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http://www.businessinsider.com/joseph-an…

Mr. X - Read Stack's manifesto for yourself, then. He rails against all the usual leftist's boogeymen. I am right, and you are simply WRONG AGAIN.
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um, @10,12,15 is obviously just that John Bailo/raindrop/Supreme Ruler retard troll all over again
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@12 If all it takes to appear to be an assassin or terrorist is a wig, then what would have been the appropriate reaction to the dozen or so people openly carrying guns near an Obama Rally held at a school in Arizona? I mean, if a blond wig looks suspicious, what about a AR-15?
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"Watching this tape makes me wish I had been there almost as badly as I wish I was there when right-wingers shut down the vote counts in Florida....."

LOL - Internet Tough Guy!
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@12 If all it takes to appear to be an assassin or terrorist is a wig, then what would have been the appropriate reaction to the dozen or so people openly carrying guns near an Obama Rally held at a school in Arizona? I mean, if a blond wig looks suspicious, what about a AR-15?
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Please provide a link to prove that what you claim is true.
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ohbalto @18,

Which kinda proves my point, as does Naive White Guy's defense of the assault. These people tackled a young woman and stomped on her head because they genuinely fear that a costumed MoveOn activist is a real and present threat to the lives of and safety of them and their candidates. They honestly believe that they are acting in self defense. And this mass psychosis is going to end up costing lives.
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It loathes me to stick up for lunatics and I never, ever condemn violence, but this woman approached Ron Paul in what sounds like an aggressive way in order to give him "an award" and was wearing a disguise (crazy wig). The guys wrestling her to the ground are shouting "get the police, get the police." Putting a foot on her head (not "stomping," as reported) was unnecessary, but I'm inclined to think they were trying to save the day, not attack an opponent for no reason whatsoever.

I'm as liberal as they come, and I think the teabaggers are complete lunatics, but there's no need to sensationalize this incident.
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mitten @28,

So... I should wait until they kill somebody to sensationalize it?
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@28: Oh, they absolutely believe they were acting correctly.

That's what scares the shit out of us.
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20-but seconds didn't count moron--and no, that's not fucking "wimpy," troll. yeah, I know what things like society and history are probably queer shit to you but I like them fine thank you.

Please answer 24's question. Shouldn't she have the same right as Teabaggers to have an open carry firearm and dress funny and act like a loon within the lawful vicinity of Mr. Paul?

I am all for arming liberals at this point.
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Ohhhhhhh, you're all jus' a bunch o' wimps! I could kick all y'all's asses!
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@32 - that guy with the AR-15 sure doesn't fit the stereotype of the white racist teabagger, does he?

@33 - was the black guy with the AR-15 acting "loony", trying to approach Obama at all? Was he trying to give Obama something? Was he anywhere near Obama at all? Was he wearing a disguise? No, No No, and No.
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The biggest difference between the left & right is this: If you meet up w/ the worst leftist, they'll waste your time, talk your ear off, project blame & generally be a royal pain in the ass. If you meet up w/ the worst of the right, they'll kill you & expect to be awarded a medal. In spite of their flaws, I'll go w/ the people who won't kill me.

And note to all: NWLSP is a well-established troll. No one is so ignorant as the willfully-ignorant. Facts, logic, appeals for decency will fall on deaf ears. (Seriously, because Joe Stack wasn't in lock-step w/ all the right-wing demands, suddenly he's "left wing." lol)
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@28, the man who put his foot on her head clearly thrusts his foot down on her after putting his foot on her. Ive held things down with my feet, it doesn't require a kick. He's not simply pinning her down, he is stomping. they show it twice, watch it again.

These people have declared themselves militia, judge and jury, it is a strategy designed to terrorize any opposition. Violent rhetoric, involving lynching and shooting references are being made by the leaders of one side only and clearly lends implies approval of violence.
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@29 I really hope you don't actually consider yourself a real journalist. Shouldn't you be writing about Richert's (sp?) brain damage?
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the teahadis will all crawl back in the woodwork once Boehner the Orange is SOTH. the plutocrats will have no more use for them & their 'insurgency' will lose its financial backing. poof, they'll go back to smoking meth and collecting disability checks.
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"NWLSP is a well-established troll."

This is a stereotypical libtarded term that means: "everything this guy posts is terrible, even if it is true and we are unable to prove him wrong. We have to ignore him because he uses facts to back up what he says, and we have no way to combat that except by using curse words and ignoring him."
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@21 Why would you call him racist? What exactly did he say that was racist?

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@28 et. al. -- Where was Paul's security detail? Why didn't they handle this alleged threat in a professional manner, instead of letting the rabble throw people to the ground?
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@36 - "(Seriously, because Joe Stack wasn't in lock-step w/ all the right-wing demands, suddenly he's "left wing." lol) "

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Let's just take a looky and see what Mr. Stack himself had to say. In fact, it reads a lot like your shit, Goldy! :

http://www.businessinsider.com/joseph-an…

"Why is it that a handful of thugs and plunderers can commit unthinkable atrocities (and in the case of the GM executives, for scores of years)"
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"Yet at the same time, the joke we call the American medical system, including the drug and insurance companies, are murdering tens of thousands of people a year and stealing from the corpses and victims they cripple, and this country’s leaders don’t see this as important as bailing out a few of their vile, rich cronies."
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"In particular, zeroed in on a section relating to the wonderful “exemptions” that make institutions like the vulgar, corrupt Catholic Church so incredibly wealthy."
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"midnight effort by the sleazy executives of Arthur Andersen (the very same folks who later brought us Enron and other such calamities)"
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" Ironically, after what they had done the Government came to the aid of the airlines with billions of our tax dollars … as usual they left me to rot and die while they bailed out their rich, incompetent cronies WITH MY MONEY!"
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"this happens because the justice department is all on the take and doesn’t give a fuck about serving anyone or anything but themselves and their rich buddies."
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I remember reading about the stock market crash before the “great” depression and how there were wealthy bankers and businessmen jumping out of windows when they realized they screwed up and lost everything. Isn’t it ironic how far we’ve come in 60 years in this country that they now know how to fix that little economic problem; they just steal from the middle class (who doesn’t have any say in it, elections are a joke) to cover their asses and it’s “business-as-usual”. Now when the wealthy fuck up, the poor get to die for the mistakes… isn’t that a clever, tidy solution."
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"The recent presidential puppet GW Bush and his cronies in their eight years certainly reinforced for all of us that this criticism rings equally true for all of the government."
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"It has always been a myth that people have stopped dying for their freedom in this country, and it isn’t limited to the blacks, and poor immigrants."
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AND HERE IS HOW STACK CLOSES HIS MANIFESTO:

"The communist creed: From each according to his ability, to each according to his need.

The capitalist creed: From each according to his gullibility, to each according to his greed."

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CASE CLOSED. JOE STACK WAS A LEFTIST.
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Look where his foot was. He wasn't trying to stomp her head, he was planning to snap her neck. Then somebody pointed out to him that he was on camera.
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NWLSP is a shining, glorious example of the uber-brave modern right. Full of macho bravado, but frightened of everything they see - there's a new terror around every corner!! That woman's got a wig, a sign, and a piece of paper! Get her! She's dangerous!!

This is politics - people show up in costumes at every event. People approach candidates acting weird AT EVERY EVENT. Suck it up, you bunch of pussies.
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@ Naive White Libtarded - I think you skipped over my initial question, what is the appropriate way to deal with a protester carrying AR-15 if the suitable way to deal with a protester with a wig is to put your foot on their head?

I can answer some of your questions, Chris Broughton ("the black guy with the AR-15"), does not seem to fit all the stereotypes of "white racist teabagger" but what relevance does that have? He was, however, about a block away from the President, and according to wikipedia (sorry, look for a better source if you like), that AR-15 has an average range of 547 yards. Just a day before he showed up he was praying with his preacher for "Obama to melt like a snail tonight" for being a "socialist devil, murderer, infanticide." (http://edition.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0909/…). He later said that he personally prays for Obama to "to die and go to hell."

Keeping all that in mind, how should Chris Broughton, or the other gun carrying protesters have been dealt with?
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@Mr. X @ 46

I wonder what has been happening around town lately? Hmmmmmmm...

http://seattlecrime.com/2010/10/25/fatal…

posted 10/25/10 05:27 PM | updated 10/25/10 05:27 PM

Fatal International District Shooting Sparked By Baby Mama Drama

By Jonah Spangenthal-Lee

A man suspected of fatally shooting another man in the International District over the weekend told police he was involved in a dispute with the victim after the victim accused him of sleeping with his "baby's mama."

According to police records, officers on patrol near 12th and Jackson heard gunfire around 2:40am Saturday morning, and saw a vehicle leaving the area.

Police stopped the vehicle, but the passenger fled. Officers later located the man—identified in police records as Pierce Alfonso Dubois, 27—running out of "The Jungle" at 10th and Dearborn, and arrested him. Police also arrested the driver of the vehicle, but later released him.

Gang detectives interviewed Dubois, who told police the victim "had accused Dubois of sleeping with the victim's 'baby's mama," SPD records say.

Police records note Dubois had blood on his clothing at the time of his arrest.

When police interviewed the driver of the vehicle stopped near the scene of the shooting, he told officers he had been with Dubois earlier in the evening, "clubbing in West Seattle," when Dubois said he needed to find the victim in the Central District.

The two men located the victim, and Dubois got out of the car and got into a fight. Dubois then came back to the car, went back to the victim, and opened fire, police records say.

Dubois has not yet been charged for the shooting, but is being held on $1 million bail in the King County Jail.
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Never forget that the Second Amendment was put in the US Constitution by Liberals to help us defend against the attacks from Conservatives.

Lock and load.

Lock and load.
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@46. We'll ok then.
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One thing I hate about liberals is that they seem too adverse to violence. Her friends should have kicked the shit out of that old bastard.
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Well ok then. That's what I meant.
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@47. Was he actively threatening anyone? No. Was he brandishing his rifle? No.

If he threatened Obama or anyone else, or if he brandished his weapon, then he should have been arrested and prosecuted. I agree the guy sounds like a nut to me (I'm an athiest) but he did not actually threaten anyone and he did nothing illegal.
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Let this be a warning to all you bitches.....
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I love how the right wing troll skips over the fact that Stack was more in line with the teabaggers politically. His act of suicide was against the IRS and what he considered "big government." His suicide note is filled with rants about both. Heaven forbid this idiot try to justify right wing terrorists like Timothy McVeigh, Scott Roeder, Eric Rudolph. But keep on trying to spin there Skippy, it is pretty amusing.
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@53 Did Lauren Valle threaten anyone? Was she brandishing a weapon? If so, please link. Otherwise, I don't see how Lauren Valle's actions are more egregious than Chris Broughton to justify the reaction of the crowd. Please explain if you could.

Which do you consider more of a threat, a wig and a sign, or an AR-17 and loudly spoken open prayer that someone in firing range "die and go to hell"?
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Sorry, meant to say AR-15. I'm bad with gun names.
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holy fuck they found the girl with the puppies and the lady with the cat, the should name this assface and press assault charges. the right wing are all about violence and force and at heart disregard human dignity.
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It sure would be nice to see the video footage that preceded the beginning of this seemingly selectively edited video.

@56 - Did Lauren Valle threaten anyone? Well, she attempted to approach a politician while wearing a disguise and holding a suspicious package. It sure looks like the people in the video thought she was threatening someone. Her actions certainly make her look naive and stupid.

Did Chris Broughton approach anyone threateningly? Did he ever brandish his weapon at all? Was he wearing a disguise? Did he have a suspicious package that he wanted to "present" to Obama? No, No, No, & No.

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@58 "the right wing are all about violence and force"
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"Every Communist must grasp the truth, "Political power grows out of the barrel of a gun."

- Mao Tse-Tung - "Problems of War and Strategy" (November 6, 1938), Selected Works, Vol. II, p. 224.
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"The seizure of power by armed force, the settlement of the issue by war, is the central task and the highest form of revolution. This Marxist-Leninist principle of revolution holds good universally, for China and for all other countries."

- Mao Tse-Tung - "Problems of War and Strategy" (November 6, 1938)
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"Without armed struggle neither the proletariat, nor the people, nor the Communist Party would have any standing at all in China and it would be impossible for the revolution to triumph. In these years [the eighteen years since the founding of the Party] the development, consolidation and bolshevization of our Party have proceeded in the midst of revolutionary wars; without armed struggle the Communist Party would assuredly not be what it is today. Comrades throughout the Party must never forget this experience for which we have paid in blood."

- Mao Tse-Tung - "Introducing The Communist" (October 4, 1939), Selected Works, Vol. II, p. 292.

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"According to the Marxist theory of the state, the army is the chief component of state power. Whoever wants to seize and retain state power must have a strong army. Some people ridicule us as advocates of the "omnipotence of war". Yes, we are advocates of the omnipotence of revolutionary war; that is good, not bad, it is Marxist. The guns of the Russian Communist Party created socialism. We shall create a democratic republic. Experience in the class struggle in the era of imperialism teaches us that it is only by the power of the gun that the working class and the labouring masses can defeat the armed bourgeoisie and landlords; in this sense we may say that only with guns can the whole world be transformed."

- Mao Tse-Tung - "Problems of War and Strategy" (November 6, 1938), Selected Works, Vol. II, p. 225.
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@59 Link to where it says she was holding a suspicious package. Link to where it says she came close to approaching Rand Paul, because I have found several places where it says she wanted to approach him, but I can't find anyone who says that was likely to be a reality.

Even still, she appeared threatening, and her actually being threatening are two different things. Did she appear threatening to police? The police felt that Chris Broughton and the dozen or so other gun carrying protesters appeared threatening and had to use resources to keep tabs on them, rather than focus on other possible threats.

Do you believe all it takes is a wig to make some one more of a threat than a person with an actual weapon?
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Contrast Mao with one of our great shining lights:

"I'm right and you're wrong, wimp!" NWLSP, Slog comment thread, 2010.
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@65 thanks for admitting the truth
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Uh, hey NWLSP...I think Mao might be a just a wee bit to the left of the casual Slogger. So you're not really proving anything.
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Do we have historical parallels where during times of economic change, the culture turned conservative and violent?
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Waaaaaah waaaaaaah mister x called me a waycist!

Waaaaaah
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"68
Um, could you perhaps find a better example of current violent left-wing extremism than a seventy-year-old one from China? I mean, I'm not saying there aren't ANY, ..."

The very existence of the current governments of Myanmar and North Korea is all the proof I need.
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Mr. Curbstomper is seriously chin deficient. Why am I not surprised?
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@71: Asplain, if you will, exactly how Myanmar and North Korea are run by left-wing extremists.
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Don't even try with this troll. He is well established on this and other websites around the country. It appears by the repetitive word usage that he operates under multiple identities until a blog gets tired of him and filters him out. He truly is the sociopath in the basement.

In his own words from a post a few days ago:

"Here, I will help you out a little with your awesome insults:

"I, the Naive White Libtarded Seattle Progressive, am a retarded inbred redneck racist hick. I live in the basement of my mom's trailer in a white trash trailer park, where I hide behind my computer screen all day, while posting hate, and wearing a tinfoil hat on top of my white bedsheet Klan hood, and I jack off all day to a poster of Hitler, because I can't get laid, unless it is with my mom and sister.""

It was a feeble attempt at showing how he could shrug off insults. I suspect, however, that it was a little more autobiographical.
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"Don't even try with this troll." = unless you can show me some real facts and logic that can stand up to and defeat the facts and logic that I present.
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@75 Speaking of facts and logic, I'm still hoping you can show me where you read that Lauren Valle was holding a suspicious package or that she successfully came close to approaching Rand Paul.
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"The very existence of the current governments of Myanmar and North Korea is all the proof I need... of left-wing extremism"
Let's clarify terms, cause you are not on the same page as most people.
When people think Left wing, think Sweden, Denmark and Holland. Myanmar and North Korea are not that at all. Myanmar and North Korea are dictatorships.
From Wikipedia
"For some scholars, dictatorship is a form of government that has the power to govern without consent of those being governed (similar to authoritarianism), while totalitarianism describes a state that regulates nearly every aspect of public and private behavior of the people."
"... In this sense, dictatorship (government without people's consent) is a contrast to democracy (government whose power comes from people) and
totalitarianism (government controls every aspect of people's life) opposes pluralism (government allows multiple lifestyles and opinions)."
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If you are trying to claim that the governments of Myanmar and North Korea are not leftist governments, then you are delusional.
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78 well in this country, in american culture, its the Right Wing that is perpetuating violence, on an individual (said examples), civic (police state), military (hello), and systemic basis (how many on the right want to reduce the deficit by cutting military spending?). you are after a strawman if you think any of your old school marxist examples are relavant anymore. you imaginary opposition doesn't exist.
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78 the modern liberal state is Denmark, The Netherlands, Sweden etc. If that's not the kind of place you want to be in fine, but stop with your b.s. comparisons to fucking North Korea or Myanmar or fucking 19th century Russia. Not relevant or persuasive at all. And yes, I would love it if my home country was as progressive as Denmark with our own flavor. That's what yo are up against, not some paranoid commie conspiracy. And do I want to force you to live under that? Hell no, go live in some right wing parking lot surrounded by missiles. I would much rather prefer this country broke up and you could live your happy life in east bumblefuck hicksville and the rest of us in a modern civilized society.
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80 :

You want recent examples of leftist violence from the USA, here you go:

Violent leftists prevented Tom Tancredo from giving a speech at UNC. They broke windows, screamed profanities, and spit on people.

http://www.newsobserver.com/2009/04/15/4…

Protest stops Tancredo's UNC speech

Published Wed, Apr 15, 2009 04:59 AM

By Jesse James DeConto - Staff Writer

CHAPEL HILL -- UNC-CH police released pepper spray and threatened to use a Taser on student protesters Tuesday evening when a crowd disrupted a speech by former Colorado congressman Tom Tancredo opposing in-state tuition benefits to unauthorized immigrants.

Hundreds of protesters converged on Bingham Hall, shouting profanities and accusations of racism while Tancredo and the student who introduced him tried to speak. Minutes into the speech, a protester pounded a window of the classroom until the glass shattered, prompting Tancredo to flee and campus police to shut down the event.

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University Chancellor Holden Thorp said in an e-mail message to students and faculty that he had called Tancredo today to apologize for his treatment.

Campus police are investigating the incident and will pursue criminal charges if warranted, Thorp said. The students involved also could face Honor Court proceedings if there is sufficient evidence, he said.

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Inside the classroom, several student protesters screamed curses at Tancredo and Riley Matheson, president of the UNC-Chapel Hill chapter of Youth for Western Civilization.

"This is the free speech crowd, right?" Tancredo joked.

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"Fascists are fascists," Tancredo said. "Their actions were probably the best speech I could ever give. They are what's wrong with America today. ... When all you can do is yell epithets, that means you are intellectually bankrupt."

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http://www.newsobserver.com/2009/04/24/4…

UNC student charged in Tancredo protest

Published Fri, Apr 24, 2009 05:20 AM

CHAPEL HILL -- Campus police have charged a UNC-Chapel Hill student with disorderly conduct in connection with last week's protest that shut down a speech by former Colorado congressman Tom Tancredo.

Morehead scholar Haley Koch was arrested outside a classroom Thursday. She was released on $1,000 bail.

She joins six other people who were arrested Wednesday during a speech by another conservative former congressman, Virgil Goode of Virginia. None of those arrested Wednesday was a UNC-CH student or employee, the university said in a news release.

Liberal student groups have clashed with Goode and Tancredo, who were invited by the conservative Youth for Western Civilization to speak against illegal immigration.

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Leftist union thugs beat black tea-party member Ken Gladney:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wr_4ZWEFO…

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http://www.examiner.com/city-hall-in-lou…

White union thugs beat black man at Obamacare rally

An angry mob attacked a black man outside a town hall meeting on healthcare in St. Louis last Thursday. The group was “invited” to the meeting by U.S. Representative Russ Carnahan (Dem., Mo.), who had a reserved seating section for them inside the hall, while security guards posted outside refused entry to members of the Tea Party Coalition.

Kenneth Gladney was exercising his First Amendment rights outside the hall, by handing out flyers with the revolutionary “Don’t Tread on Me” flag on the cover. Mr.Gladney also happens to be a black man. He was assaulted by a bunch of thugs from the Service Employees International Union (SEIU), proudly wearing their union shirts with the SEIU logo. Most of the union thugs appeared to be white men.
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81 not convincing. Spitting, broken windows by college kids... that's not anything like what the right is perpetuating. See video above.
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82 keep em coming. maybe somebody can tally a blog of violence by both sides. i still maintain the right are the ones with the culture of violence and force.
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"tally a blog of violence"

+ 110,000,000 people killed by Communists worldwide
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@85 It takes a special kind of stupid to go straight to Mao and the communists when arguing about left wing violence. People here could easily start screaming about right wing violence (Hitler, Franco, I can go on all day) but they don't, because they are keeping it in perspective. It's teabaggers vs. progressives not Nazis vs. commies. So why don't you dial it down a notch, huh slappy?
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UPDATE: The head stomper has been identified: Tim Profitt, Rand Paul's Bourbon County Coordinator.

And... the victim now says that the attack appeared premeditated.
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@86 - The anti-Tancredo mob was organized by a Maoist sect named "Freedom Road Socialist Organization" which publishes "Fight Back!"
http://www.fightbacknews.org/

So it actually is commie maoist violence. But again, I know that because I'm not a sheltered white naive libtarded Seattle progressive like most of the people on here.
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@89 please refer to the post at #74. You are probably too lazy to do that so I'll just quote it:

"I, the Naive White Libtarded Seattle Progressive, am a retarded inbred redneck racist hick. I live in the basement of my mom's trailer in a white trash trailer park, where I hide behind my computer screen all day, while posting hate, and wearing a tinfoil hat on top of my white bedsheet Klan hood, and I jack off all day to a poster of Hitler, because I can't get laid, unless it is with my mom and sister.""
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88 I had sex with the wife of the socialist party in seattle when I was 20. i really wish she would get back to me, id know how to handle that horny ass now.

well if it is some crazy REAL socialists (which your opposition on here is not) it still doesn't justify the right wing crazy stomping on a girls head.

and that's where your argument ends here because we dont give a fuck about moaists, that's the right wing's strawman.

larouche and the socialists can have a crazy orgy and you can have fun with that!
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@42 They were Volunteer Rand Paul security. Story updates show that the 5 men involved in taking down this woman are Rand Paul volunteers and they surrounded the woman early on because they knew her from her previous protests at rallies. One of them admits to telling the others they might need to "take her down". Protest protected by the constitution, so much for the Tea Party's vaunted desire to go back to our "founders' intentions.
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88 and you know whats a joke about your smarmy 'sheltered' snub is how hypocritical it really is. should we be uneducated serfs? how bout some john adams:

“I must study politics and war, that my sons may have the liberty to study mathematics and philosophy, natural history and naval architecture, in order to give their children a right to study painting, poetry, music, architecture, tapestry, and porcelain.”
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I know I'm supposed to be a good little non-violent progressive, but I think anyone on the left should be taking martial arts so when one of these fratboy jock dickheads feels like flexing their manliness they can be dropped like they should be.
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So in your world, Communists are still a threat? Uh...riiiiiight.

I gotta go, it's time to sharpen my sword. At sundown the Ostrogoth's are going to attack my village. I best be ready!
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@92 Could you please link us to where you read that? I'd like to keep up on this. Thanks.
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'But always—do not forget this, Winston—always there will be the intoxication of power, constantly increasing and constantly growing subtler. Always, at every moment, there will be the thrill of victory, the sensation of trampling on an enemy who is helpless. If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face—forever.'
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@92
Well, maybe they were already living in the Owners' Paradise, where there will be no true free speech outside of the home because there will be no publicly-owned spaces---you do _not_ have the right to protest on privately-held land, and so when everything is finally privatised...well, we'll have as much of our rights as we can afford.

This will be good, because then only then will the virtuous have the rights proportionate to their virtues. No-one questions William Gates III's right to own approximately one million times as much land on which he may decide what speech is free as someone whose net virtue is only (say) $50,000; why should anyone object to his having that much more freedom of speech?
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Did you know The Netherlands has a very high homosexual suicide rate?
As do other Socialist Paradises.
It seems to be very hard to make The Gays happy.....
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Remember, if anyone:

a. hates our Government

b. hates our President

c. hates our Middle Class and wants to export their jobs to their Red Chinese comrades overseas.

Then they are NOT patriotic. They are in point of fact, TRAITORS.