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But then you remember that those vast expanses of red are mostly undeveloped parcels of land with a few lonely souls trying to eek a depressing existence.

2

You say "liberal bubble" like it's a bad thing.

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The 2016 election map looks just like an epic disease outbreak, with America defiled by a scorching red Tdumbpnazi infection from hell.

American democracy is a failure because half of Americans are obtusely stupid, cruel, sadistic assholes that can’t be trusted under any circumstances, especially when they want to vote for a lying, racist, illiterate, incompetent, hateful, fascist, sexual predator. Republinazis consider those to be Prezinazi AntiChrist’s best qualities!

3

Trump voters have only a 33 minute drive to visit The Stranger? I suggest serving diet soda and beer nuts.

4

Hillary did not win Medina BY 55%. She won Medina WITH 55%. Big difference.

5

Research has shown that one out of every three tDump voters is just as stupid as the other two.

6

Dori Monson tells all those red precincts how to feel about Seattle. I had to battle his poison with my MIL until she died.

7

Gracious; our neck of the woods is in the 99th percentile for Trump.

@3 5 etc
How frustrating it must be to be thwarted at every turn by such stupid cattle.
Best work on your curtsey...

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@7 Seems kind of easy to get those nunbers when all your buddies have already OD'd on fentanyl in mom's basement and you're the last one left to vote for him.

9

I've been saying this:

Diversity of skin color is unimportant if it doesn't come with diversity of opinion, outlook, age (this is a biggie for me, if your community doesn't have many children or old people it's fundamentally problematic) or a few other non-racial factors, then I think you should question what the purpose of diversity is for you.

10

"bubble"

so the side that lost the popular vote doesn't live in a bubble but WE do? Pretty sick propaganda, NYT.

"must be clouding judgement for some Stein voters"

Actually voting for your preferred candidate without compromising the election of the lesser of 2 evils is called having smarts.

Aren't you tired of regurgitating corporate media tropes?

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The term 'bubble' distorts what's going on -- the majority of the population lives in urban centers. That doesn't make them out of touch with what the majority of Americans want. THEY ARE THE MAJORITY.

It's the people living in the middle of nowhere, who are frightened by change and people who don't look like them, who are living in bubbles -- bubbles of homogeneity and stagnation. People who live in urban centers have their assumptions challenged much more often (though clearly not often enough, given that there's a lot of racism in cities too).

12

Again --- acreage doesn't vote. You may as well assume that's a population density map.

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"having smarts"; aka losing?
Perhaps too smart for your own good.

11
What are you smoking? It must be moldy...
Trump was the biggest change an American election has ever produced.
Hillary? about as far up the ass of Same Tired Old Failed Establishment one could possibly shove one's head.

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@11: "middle of nowhere" ??!!

Only bubbleheads think that.

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@11 They're more like islands. An archipelago on which the majority of people live, and off which the rest of the country survives financially. They give us food and raw materials. We give them money for their unemployed to live off of, healthcare so they don't keel over and die, and education so they can actually find a way out of the automation that threatens to swallow them first and foremost.

It would be a fair exchange but because of some fucky math and some early concerns about (ironically) populism, Cletus' vote in South Pigpounder matters more than Caleb's vote in Northgate, precisely because Northgate is more populated. There's no getting around it, no politician would willingly correct the election system since it's his bread & butter.

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Wait - who's in a bubble? In some areas of Washington you'd have to drive for 90 minutes or more to get to an area where most voted for Clinton.

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@10: You need to seriously reevaluate your estimation of what "having smarts" means, when even the resident troll is dunking on you (@13).

But if you seriously thought Stein was the best candidate in 2016, I'm not sure you need to worry about it.

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It's way past time for The Stranger to update its Urban Archipelago article.

https://www.thestranger.com/seattle/the-urban-archipelago/Content?oid=19813

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@17 yay, you agree with the resident fucking moron, woohoo. Not too surprising for someone who doesn't know how to read.

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Qed, If you don't know any Trump voters in your community, it's a bubble. This isn't a revelation. Is your point is "but R's life in a bigger bubble!" Who the fuck cares, you're still in a bubble. If you were surprised and shocked Trump won, you suffered for your bubble. You had a poor, biased conception of the electorate and it need to you making an incorrect assumption about the results of the election. What else needs to be said? You can close your eyes, cover your eyes and be shocked again when the party you support shocks you with yet another loss.

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@20 Trump voters are in the closet in my community, especially business people for obvious reasons. So not knowing personally Trump voters has nothing to do with living in a bubble. Democrats who expect to triangulate their way to the mythical middle after 3 decades of betrayal of the electorate however do live in a bubble.

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I swear, everyone at this paper would cum in their pants if Jill Stein got hit by a bus. "Phew, we got our country back, everybody. USA! USA! USA! Let's all go to the bathroom to scrub this jizz out and talk Chillary 2020." Then sticky high-fives all around.

There was no risk of "helping" Trump if you voted for Jill Stein in Seattle. If you voted for Clinton in the primaries, then congratulations, you played yourself. You should stop projecting.

And no area is set-in-stone Republican. Sanders won most rural counties in the primaries, and won them by attracting independents who appreciated a genuine left message. Honestly, I think the liberal Iowans I know are further to the left than most Seattleites, not only because they support Medicare-for-All, but because they understand why an income tax is important and naturally distrust corporations (due to their history with corporate farming). If the liberals out here focused on being more genuine, some progress could be made.


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