Casual Misogyny Much?

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Jesus. You can't at least put the picture up straight? Plus, it's hilarious!

heywhatsit!? on October 13, 2011 at 10:03 AM

Boo City Market! I'd say that Ashton is the old stringy piece of meat! Bleh!

Suz on October 13, 2011 at 10:04 AM

I love that so much! If I were in the neighborhood I would go get some jo-jos or whatnot to reward them. In the meantime, one internet upwards-finger-waggle from me.

gloomy gus on October 13, 2011 at 10:04 AM

Aren't these supposed to be offensive?

Matt from Denver on October 13, 2011 at 10:06 AM

Were you cool with the Amanda Knox one? A lot of these seem to be offensive.

g on October 13, 2011 at 10:07 AM

They'll survive.

Nick on October 13, 2011 at 10:10 AM

wow, jen. did you freak out about that fat comment written on a receipt last weekend as well?

34x42 on October 13, 2011 at 10:14 AM

Everybody always laughs at things, until they hit too close to home.

Pew Pew Pew on October 13, 2011 at 10:18 AM

Hahaha. Ashton and Demi are both old, stringy meat. Shitty Market is an equal opportunity offender, and I for one love their fried chicken. And Josh. He's great.

More, I Say! on October 13, 2011 at 10:18 AM

Seems more ageist than misogynist...

Christopher Frizzelle on October 13, 2011 at 10:18 AM Stranger Staff

relax and grow a sense of humor. jesus.

CrankyBacon on October 13, 2011 at 10:19 AM

Oh, come on. That's not even the most offensive City Market sign they've done. You don't have to find it funny, but it's hardly remarkable.

Hernandez on October 13, 2011 at 10:23 AM

don't give a damn

masgroovy on October 13, 2011 at 10:24 AM

Plus Ashton Kutcher looks sort of Native American in that drawing. Must be racist.

on October 13, 2011 at 10:25 AM

And then there is the joke someone played at the office from a Charlie Sheen roast: (from memory and not accurate) What Charlie Sheen and Bruce Willis have in common is that they were both big in the 80s and Ashton Kutcher is now filling their old slot.

CommonKnowledge on October 13, 2011 at 10:25 AM

Straining for misogynistic meaning much?

benjammin509 on October 13, 2011 at 10:26 AM

City Market tends to play off of current events and seeing how Ashton has been cavorting with young ladies and the like it seems apropos. If you're going to be mad at a misogynist, be mad at Kutcher.

But I am le tired on October 13, 2011 at 10:30 AM

Oversensitive much?

tired and true on October 13, 2011 at 10:31 AM

I find it high-larious AND offensive: ain’t 2½ bad…

Jaymz on October 13, 2011 at 10:36 AM

Maybe you should move to Portland

joemomma on October 13, 2011 at 10:37 AM

There are a million reasons to loathe Ashton Kutcher that don't require cougar jokes, but yeah, this is one in a long string of calculated-offensive City Market placards. No worse than the rest!

undead ayn rand on October 13, 2011 at 10:38 AM

If you're going to be OK with offensive humor then you still have to be OK with it when it offends you.

giffy on October 13, 2011 at 10:41 AM

Isn't it sexist to imply that men can't have old stringy meat as well?

Lumpmoose on October 13, 2011 at 10:44 AM

So, does this mean Jen's stringy old meat? Because if not, I can't figure out why she'd be offended.

Fifty-Two-Eighty on October 13, 2011 at 10:46 AM

@ 10, it's more sexist because you're not likely to see jokes about men becoming unappealing as they age - say, if Soon-Yi Previn ever wises up and dumps Woody Allen, they wouldn't make this joke. (Never mind that Soon-Yi and Woody are probably too far off the pop culture map for any marriage troubles to make big headlines.)

As Pat Schroeder once observed regarding attitudes about people growing old, "Men age, but women rot."

Matt from Denver on October 13, 2011 at 10:48 AM

I stopped shopping at City Market because they don't sell anything remotely edible.

Meags on October 13, 2011 at 10:48 AM

@3, this upward-finger-waggling is really starting to catch on!

PS - Joke is funny. Get over it.

Fnarf on October 13, 2011 at 10:51 AM

the ashton kutcher drawing looks exactly like the amanda knox drawing, except with facial hair.

AmyC on October 13, 2011 at 10:54 AM

Don't ever change, City Market

Chester Copperpot on October 13, 2011 at 11:01 AM

Really Jen,
Shouldn’t you be laying off the fried chicken anyway?
Why not just super glue a stick of butter to your ass instead?

You_Gotta_Be_Kidding_Me on October 13, 2011 at 11:05 AM

No, no, Jen, it's cool to say things that make yourself IRREVERENT, not IRRELEVANT.

Gomez on October 13, 2011 at 11:15 AM

Hair diaper!

SeattleSeven on October 13, 2011 at 11:18 AM

long live Jackie Templeton.

stinkbug on October 13, 2011 at 11:19 AM

If I was in charge of their signs the next one would say "Our fish is fresh and delicious! Jen Graves is an up tight asshole!"

Jesus christ. Pull the stick out of your ass.

Dave M on October 13, 2011 at 11:46 AM

I love when the SLOG turns into outpouring of stranger writers' mood swings. This sign is just not offensive enough to even comment on, so whats really bothering you Jen?

longball on October 13, 2011 at 11:47 AM

Cuz I like Jen, I'm just going to assume that -- as the notable Stranger Art Critic -- he boycott is because of the horrible, horrible drawn likeness of Mr Kutcher on display there, rather than because she lacks any sense of humor a'tall!

Timrrr on October 13, 2011 at 11:50 AM

Is Ashton Kutcher the backup QB for the Seahawks?

Supreme Ruler Of The Universe on October 13, 2011 at 11:51 AM

oh jesus christ its a fucking joke
i prefer old stringy meat and this is fucking great. get that stick out of your butt

aardvark on October 13, 2011 at 11:54 AM

Jen Graves: The kind of person who walks out of comedy shows because someone makes a joke about old people.

Jeff on October 13, 2011 at 11:57 AM

@22 what about Ashotn Kutcher is misogynist, you whiny old cunt?

on October 13, 2011 at 12:05 PM

Is this the first City Market sign you have ever seen? Because it's pretty much what they do.

Would you be offended if it was a Catherine Zeta-Jones/Michael Douglass joke? I'm guessing no.

very bad homo on October 13, 2011 at 12:07 PM

Change Ashton to Madonna, and Demi to Guy ritchie and it still works. It's ageist, not misogynistic. Also, topical and funny.

thatsnotright on October 13, 2011 at 12:12 PM

Jen's posts are becoming more and more Mudede-esque. When nobody cares about the stuff she writes about her actual field, she trolls for hits by manufacturing controversy over race or gender.

Way to go, Jen. Maybe you'll make the "most commented" column with this one.

Here's a challenge- try to do that with a post about art.

kitschnsync on October 13, 2011 at 12:12 PM

Ah, yes: It's about me. It's not about the culture turning women into irrelevant (speaking of) dried-up pieces of meat as they age. Thanks for the reminder!

Also, funny shit is funny. Not-funny shit is not-funny. I walk out of not-funny comedy shows, yup.

And yup, I love when their signs skewer the fucked-up power system we live in. When they reinforce it, I just find that stupid.

But please: Abuse me and my body in these comments, because that wouldn't make my point for me at all.

Christopher: I hear you, and I agree with @26.

Meags: Hillside Quickies vegan sandwiches!

Jen Graves on October 13, 2011 at 12:17 PM

@ 44, that wouldn't work because Madonna is older than Demi. Also, Madonna is older than Guy Ritchie, like Demi is older than Ashton.

See @ 26 for why you're still wrong.

For the record, I'm with everyone who thought this was funny and not worth such a reaction. But it is sexist. (Not misogynistic, just sexist.)

Matt from Denver on October 13, 2011 at 12:17 PM

@46 You think that maybe the joke is not haha a women was old, but haha Aston Kutcher is a dick?

giffy on October 13, 2011 at 12:28 PM

"...the culture turning women into irrelevant (speaking of) dried-up pieces of meat"

No, this was about turning Demi Moore "into irrelevant (speaking of) dried-up pieces of meat." Is she not?

Geraldo Riviera on October 13, 2011 at 12:32 PM

So the reason 18 year old girls won't fuck me, a middle-aged man, is because they are man-haters?

Thanks, got it.

seandr on October 13, 2011 at 12:35 PM

Can we stop using the word boycott? It's really sexist and ageist.

Personcott seems better.

derek_erdman on October 13, 2011 at 12:35 PM

@48: I think having to parse an Ashton Kutcher joke is fail.

Jen Graves on October 13, 2011 at 12:37 PM

I got food poisoning from the deli at City Market. Just an FYI

Cato the Younger Younger on October 13, 2011 at 12:37 PM

@47: Quite a dodge. Care to elaborate on why it's sexist but not misogynist? (I wouldn't want to have overreacted, like a hysterical girl, just because I didn't understand the distinction.)

Jen Graves on October 13, 2011 at 12:44 PM

@52 Then why did you make a post about it?

giffy on October 13, 2011 at 12:47 PM

Also, seandr, you have my deepest sympathies. Middle-aged white guys in this culture do suffer a great deal from the phenomenon of 18-year-old "girls" refusing to fuck them.

Jen Graves on October 13, 2011 at 12:48 PM

The only thing more borish than declaring a temporary boycott over something inconsequential is rushing to the internet to tell everyone about it. Besides, if you are going to do something like that, isn't that what Facebook or Twitter are for?

City Market has been around Seattle longer than I have. It wil probably outlive me, let alone The Stranger. I'd let it go, if I were you, Jen dear.

Catalina Vel-DuRay on October 13, 2011 at 12:52 PM

And we have a winner: @55

Jeff on October 13, 2011 at 12:54 PM

@57: I'll try to keep my girlish thoughts to myself, or at least parade them out only in more private, domesticated spheres—nowhere as Big Boy as Slog.

Jen Graves on October 13, 2011 at 12:57 PM

@55, @58: You can talk about Ashton, I'll talk about misogyny.

Jen Graves on October 13, 2011 at 12:59 PM

@Jen,

Thanks.

You stick to outrageous outrage and we'll stick to laughing at you when you do stupid things like imply that the owner of a locally owned shop is a racist.

Everyone wins!

Jeff on October 13, 2011 at 1:05 PM

pretty funny

Swearengen on October 13, 2011 at 1:06 PM

Erdman wins, as always

Andy_Squirrel on October 13, 2011 at 1:07 PM

@60 Talking about how bad misogyny is in reference to this is no different from talking about how bad murder is in reference to the Amanda Knox one from a couple days ago. This is no more an endorsement of misogyny than that one was of stabbing.

giffy on October 13, 2011 at 1:10 PM

@61: Outrage has to exist to be outrageous. Drum it up if it makes you feel better. I'm just not shopping at a market, and I'm not backing down from naming blatant misogyny.

Jen Graves on October 13, 2011 at 1:11 PM

@ 54, misogyny is hate; sexism isn't. I don't see a general hatred and contempt of women in this sign.

And my comment @ 47 is not an about face - see my comment @ 4.

This business appears to get off on being edgy, with these very non-PC sandwich board signs featuring people in the news. Of course, I don't live there - maybe they have a much longer history of sexist or misogynistic ads. If there's a pattern, your anger is well placed. If not, then it's not.

Matt from Denver on October 13, 2011 at 1:14 PM

Sexism aside, it's just not that funny. The phrasing is awkward for one thing. But yeah, it certainly does reflect the cultural trope that women have a pull date to which men are not subject and I think pointing that out is valid.

Lissa on October 13, 2011 at 1:14 PM

Go get 'em, Jen. Ignore these trolls. It's an obnoxious ad. 'Nuff said.

faceupandsing on October 13, 2011 at 1:17 PM

I feel that the lady doth protest too much.

More, I Say! on October 13, 2011 at 1:19 PM

This really is immature indignity. It's boring and predictable too. (But please, take that as veiled misogyny!)

dirac on October 13, 2011 at 1:20 PM

Which do you think Demi Moore is more offended about? City Chicken making an analogy between her and a dried up piece of meat, or young women cavorting with her husband? Aren't those young women being mysoginist?

Anyway, why is the joke accompanied by a picture of Jesus?

madcap on October 13, 2011 at 1:22 PM

And here Catalina put it in as polite a way as she could, only to be met with more vitriol and what seems to be an attempt to foist a sexist viewpoint onto Mz. Vel Du-Ray.

Dear Matt from Denver:
http://www.flickr.com/groups/citymarkets…
Please enjoy.

More, I Say! on October 13, 2011 at 1:22 PM

turning women into pieces of meat is such bullshit. i mean, its not just women, but men are turned into pieces of meat too. read a baseball scouting report. men LIKE being treated as pieces of meat. objectifying is great as a balance to all this subjective bullshit.

aardvark on October 13, 2011 at 1:27 PM

Ummmmm, TEAM JEN. Her response at @46 covers it. God forbid women dare to question the culture that turns them into piles of dead garbage--to be either consumed or discarded by men--as soon as they hit 40.

Lindy West on October 13, 2011 at 1:30 PM

ROW ROW FIGHT THE POWAH

Unregistered User on October 13, 2011 at 1:33 PM

Jen, you really should retitle this post as: "In Which an Idiot Unwittingly Proves Her Own Idiocy, Part II".

But hey, congrats on what must be a month's worth of hits for you.

Meta on October 13, 2011 at 1:34 PM

@ 67 - My thoughts exactly.

Thanks Lissa & Jen!

merry on October 13, 2011 at 1:38 PM

Demi Moore is not old stringy chicken meat.

Sandiai on October 13, 2011 at 1:39 PM

Oh fer chrissakes. It's funny BECAUSE it's offensive.

Fnarf on October 13, 2011 at 1:39 PM

@72, so far not finding anything else I could call sexist...

Matt from Denver on October 13, 2011 at 1:42 PM

I'd say it's more ageist then misogynist

Garfield on October 13, 2011 at 1:44 PM

now who is trolling?

on October 13, 2011 at 1:46 PM

...but it does imply women are undesirable after a certain age or, as Jen aptly puts it, irrelevant dried-up pieces of meat. for that I agree - City Mkt failed on this one & should take it down

Garfield on October 13, 2011 at 1:48 PM

Jen Graves is just a shrill, hysterical, bitchy, ball-busting, PMSing, femi-nazi. Then men who defend jokes about how older women are used up trash are HEROS! Keep it up, fellas--you're hilarious and a great treasure to our society!

http://youtu.be/6gkIiV6konY

Carollani on October 13, 2011 at 1:53 PM

"God forbid women dare to question the culture that turns them into piles of dead garbage"

And there's no better battle to pick than to get mad at a City Market sign that was just making fun of Ashton Kutcher!

Gomez on October 13, 2011 at 2:03 PM

@85 FTW!

Carollani on October 13, 2011 at 2:03 PM

"Things are funny, but only if they don't refer to me."

I'm 85 Years Old on October 13, 2011 at 2:03 PM

"It's not misogynist! You'd only think so if you were an old, ugly woman." Wow, thanks for the laugh, SLOG.

Right on, Jen.

Voltairine on October 13, 2011 at 2:06 PM

@86 If you honestly think the sign was making fun of Ashton Kutcher and not celebrating him for dumping an old worthless bag of boobs and bones you're seriously thick. To be perfectly clear: I mean you're stupid, and also a coward to not stand up for the female sex. It takes a real clever man to laugh at a joke about a woman.

Carollani on October 13, 2011 at 2:08 PM

Who are the asses having a fucking heart attack about a simple truth? That misogynist sign sucks. Thanks, Jen for calling it out. I don't give a fuck about two overpaid celebrities who decided to call it quits. I do, however, care that the local deli on Capitol Hill thinks it's cute to demean women of all ages. City deli, I hope the women of Seattle heap a ton of used tampons at your foul door: a gift from the fairer sex. If you can't see what's fucked up about the sign you can stay home and beat your stringy old meat. But shut up.

fanonbrown on October 13, 2011 at 2:24 PM

@86 So the one about what's her name that got off for killing her kid, was that celebrating her or child murder?

giffy on October 13, 2011 at 2:24 PM

@90 Wow.

What do you want him to do? Just agree with you? Or burn down City Market?

Of all the things in the word to waste time on this should rate exceptionally low on any thinking persons give-a-shit-o-meter.

Graves is always talking about privilege. And nothing shows her ridiculous levels of white rich girl privilege (Stanford grads are soooo street!) than these petty time wasting mini-outrage generators.

I never go to City Market. But I am now. Just out of spite.

tkc on October 13, 2011 at 2:26 PM

Seandr, that's a perfect retort to this ridiculous post. Lame comeback Jen Graves.

biffp on October 13, 2011 at 2:27 PM

Do you think Ashton prefers real or fake chicken breasts?

Jeff on October 13, 2011 at 2:34 PM

Wow, this is starting to look like one of those old Erica C Barnett melt downs.

longball on October 13, 2011 at 2:43 PM

I think as a woman there is a bit of sting, for me, but that is because women seem to be held to a different standard with regard to aging in the US. Not being in Seattle I don't know if City Market hates women or not, but I think this example is more sexist and ageist than anything else. Other's can feel different, after all my $0.02 can be tossed in the dustbin easily.

kim in portland on October 13, 2011 at 2:45 PM

@ 74

Color me disappointed, Lindy.

pg13 on October 13, 2011 at 2:45 PM

I love how the boycott is "temporary". Arrgh, the outrage! Im not going to eat your chicken again until next week!!!

longball on October 13, 2011 at 2:47 PM

100

@93: I got lotsa privilege—I thought I had more than anybody. Until I met a commenter who wastes the time to call out the wasting of time by a privileged person calling out privilege, and who declares solidarity with a poster as a counter-protest. Impressive.

Jen Graves on October 13, 2011 at 2:48 PM

101

That's beautiful, @96. Next thing she'll start deleting comments.

Fifty-Two-Eighty on October 13, 2011 at 2:59 PM

102

90. No Ashton Kutcher dumping a girl, no jokey sign. So yeah, it's about him.

As for feministing, I don't stand up for hateful people who always look for reasons to hate.

Gomez on October 13, 2011 at 3:14 PM

103

@100 That's what you come up with. Jesus.

How much more petty could you be here, Jen? Is that what your privileged ass pushed hundreds of actual minority applicants to Stanford aside for? Way to waste daddies money.

Did you dream of the day when you had a job at major metro news outlet just so you draw attention to a cartoon of a pop culture reference made by a minimum wage convenience store employee? Impressive, indeed.

This is how you use your time? You are a brave champion of the oppressed, Jen! You should be knighted.

Look. I'm not the rich white girl employed by a media outlet. You are.

I'm just one of the plebes. Hoping and praying that people like you will spend your time on shit that matters.

Of all the time you've taken today. Of all effort you have wasted on this how, many real issues could you have championed with your privileged position?

I swear you've gone down some sort recursive obsessive outwards projecting guilt hole lately. If you actually realized the kind of privilege you have you wouldn't be posting horse shit like this.

tkc on October 13, 2011 at 3:24 PM

Casual Misogyny Much?

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