Fuck the South

A Disgruntled Massachusetts Voter Gets It Off His Chest

Fuck the South. Fuck 'em. We should have let them go when they wanted to leave. Fighting for the right to keep slaves--yeah, those are states we want to keep. And now what do we get? We're the fucking Arrogant Northeast Liberal Elite? How about this for arrogant: the South is the Real America? The Authentic America. Really?

'Cause we fucking founded this country, assholes. Those Founding Fathers you keep going on and on about? All that bullshit about what you think they meant by the Second Amendment? Who do you think those wig-wearing, lacy-shirt-sporting revolutionaries were? They were fucking blue-staters, dickhead. Boston? Philadelphia? New York? Hello? Think there might be a reason all the fucking monuments are up here in our backyard?

No, No. Get the fuck out. We're not letting you visit the Liberty Bell and fucking Plymouth Rock anymore until you get over your real American selves and start respecting those other nine amendments. Who do you think those fucking stripes on the flag are for? Nine are for fucking blue states. Get it? We started this shit, so don't get all uppity about how real you are, you Johnny-come-lately "Oooooh, I've been a state for almost a hundred years" dickheads. Fuck off.

Arrogant? You wanna talk to us Northeasterners about fucking arrogance? Maybe I wouldn't be so fucking arrogant if I wasn't paying for your fucking bridges, bitch. All those federal taxes you love to hate? It all comes from us and goes to you, so shut up and enjoy your fucking Tennessee Valley Authority electricity and your fancy highways that we paid for. And the next time Florida gets hit by a hurricane, you can come crying to us if you want to, but you're the ones who built on a fucking swamp. "Let the Spanish keep it; it's a shithole," we said, but you had to have your fucking orange juice.

The next dickwad who says, "It's your money, not the government's money" is gonna get their ass kicked. Nine of the 10 states that get the most federal fucking dollars and pay the least... can you guess? That's right, motherfucker, they're red states. And 8 of the 10 states that receive the least and pay the most? It's too easy. They're blue states. It's not your money, assholes, it's fucking our money. What was that Real American Value you were spouting a minute ago? Self reliance? Try this for self reliance: Buy your own fucking stop signs, asshole.

Let's talk about those values for a fucking minute. You and your Southern values can bite my ass because the blue states got the values over you fucking Real Americans every day of the goddamn week. Which state do you think has the lowest divorce rate, you marriage-hyping dickwads? Can you guess? It's fucking Massachusetts, the fucking center of the gay marriage universe. Yes, that's right, the state you love to tie around the neck of anyone to the left of Strom Thurmond has the lowest divorce rate in the fucking nation. Think that's just some aberration? How about this: Nine of the 10 lowest divorce rates are fucking blue states, asshole, and most are in the Northeast, where our values suck so bad. And where are the highest divorce rates? Care to fucking guess? Ten out of 10 are fucking red-ass, we're-so-fucking-moral states.

But two guys making out is going to fucking ruin marriage for you? Yeah? Seems like you're ruining it pretty well on your own, you little bastards. Oh, but that's okay because you go to church, right? I mean you do, right? 'Cause we fucking get to hear about it every goddamn year at election time. Yes, we're fascinated by how you get up every Sunday morning and sing, and then you're fucking towers of moral superiority. Yeah, that's a workable formula. Maybe us fucking Northerners don't talk about religion as much as you because we're not so busy sinning, hmmm? Ever think of that, you self-righteous assholes? No, you're too busy erecting giant stone tablets of the Ten Commandments in buildings paid for by the fucking Northeast Liberal Elite.

Well this gravy train is fucking over. Take your liberal-bashing, federal-tax-leeching, Confederate-flag-waving, holier- than-thou, hypocritical bullshit and shove it up your ass.

And no, you can't have your fucking convention in New York next time. Fuck off.

The above rant is from the website The author is a member of the Northeast Liberal Elite and is fucking done being a scapegoat for the Republican Party.


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PLEASE.someone remove all the "fucks"and print this where the whole fuckin' country can read it.not only true,but,very amusingly stated.
Posted by elitely liberal on September 28, 2008 at 12:16 PM · Report this
Actually, it needs more "fuck"s.
Posted by guy on January 16, 2009 at 7:08 PM · Report this
Tedious, lazy and a complete generalization of the south. Is anyone really surprised. He should be more concerned about why states like North Carolina have blown the entire northeast's economy away. I'm a democrat and I always thought we were the party that didn't make blanket statements about any group. Oh, I forgot, southerners are the last acceptable group to stereotype.
Posted by Steve on January 27, 2009 at 5:36 AM · Report this
WOW, what can I say? That pretty much sums up some Northern attitudes about Southerners. As a Southerner myself and a career military man, I have routinely been subjected to cultural discrimination (many of those from less educated Northerners) because of my accent and southern upbringing. It’s really sad because these are so many good people in all parts of this great nation. There are many times that I am embarrassed by my fellow Southerners due to their feeding into Northern to make a quick buck (i.e.; Larry the Cable Guy and Jeff Foxworthy). I am a self described white southern liberal who has dated outside his race many times. I have only voted Republican in 1 of 6 presidential races in my life so maybe I’m a bit biased and not the norm. The truth of the matter is that Dr. King got it right: Judging by character and not by color is the right way and should apply to this discussion. I don't think all people from New York are rude and sarcastic as I have many dear friends from there and not all of us in the South just dumb rednecks bent on marrying their 1st cousins and following to the beat of Rush Limbaugh. I hope that the writer of this post reconsiders his rant because while some of the facts that are mentioned are true, they seem to be overly focused on the negative. I did my B.S.B.A. from Touro College in New York. Lol!
Posted by Like2no2 on April 12, 2009 at 10:06 AM · Report this
Iowa allows gay marriage. California, the (bankrupt) glorious blue state, does not.

Good luck making it without the food, oil and armed forces of the south. Next time someone flies a plane into one of your buildings, say "fuck you, leave" to members of the armed forces, because a disproportionate number of them come from the south.

Good work, bash them for fighting for state rights (and incidentally, slavery), then you go on to judge people based on where they were born and stereotypes. Just for fun, Abe Lincoln was a huge racist. The North wasn't fighting for slaves' rights. Relax and hop off your moral superiority throne. Wait, where have I heard that before...

Yeah, the “North” founded this country, but in case you didn’t notice, the South is FAR MORE in line with the ideals and principals on which this country was founded. Small government, free markets, individual liberties- you might remember that from your superior grade school history class. Unfortunately, people in the north aren’t smart and responsible enough to be trusted with their own freedoms, so they have to restrict and regulate everything from guns to healthcare. Yeah, Northerners are literally too irresponsible and./or stupid to be trusted with a weapon. Think about that next time you bash the South for something

While you were hypocritically running around with a holier than thou attitude bashing the south for being holier than thou through stereotypes, you might want to take a minute to realize your farts don't smell like roses. Cocaine? Other hard drugs? Jersey Trash? Rude and arrogant Northerners? (Gee, where did that one come from?) Clusterfuck corrupt wall-street executives and investment advisers? Let us not forget the GLORIOUS guidos blowing out their hair, taking steroids, blowing out their hair drinking their MUSCLE MILK and living at home with their mom. Oh, look at that. Idiots live in the North too!

However, the absolute best part of this was how you referred to southern as being "holier than thou" and "morally superior" while you proclaim your superiority and bash them based on stereotypes.

And this is why, when I am out of the North East, I am embarrassed to tell people I’m from New York- people associate me with ignorant, hypercritical, pretentious, ethnocentric fools like you.

Grow up,

A thoroughly embarrassed New Yorker.
Posted by Embarassed Northerner on April 22, 2009 at 9:44 AM · Report this
Sounds like you have a lot of fucking anger, and need to take it out on other fucking people. I'm rally glad you got this forum for your vitriol, and even more glad what with a finger tap of my mouse, you are gone. Read Jimmy Carter "An Hour Before Sunrise" if you want a different view than the one you are trying to burn into the minds of others.
Posted by Nuclear Marc on April 24, 2009 at 1:21 PM · Report this
Well I have to say that it’s really true about what I said about New Yorkers in my earlier post. There are some really cool people there! I know how Embarrassed New Yorker feels when I see our own Idiots here saying stupid things that feed the stereotypes that get tossed around like some of those from Disgruntled Massachusetts Voter and let me say out loud we have them here in the South as well, those like Disgruntled Massachusetts Voter. What I will say is this: all regions of this great nation contribute in their own substantive way to all shared prosperity. Without the North East, our financial system would not be envy of the world (not to mention the Arts heartland of our nation). The South with its agriculture, military, and manufacturing capacity and the Midwest with its massive farming that can feed the world (it’s where all of the developing countries send their farmers to learn new ways to do it better. The west with its military, cattle ranches, movie stars and natural resources are what foreigners see as our National Personality. This doesn’t adequately describe all but I hope it demonstrates that we are "a people" and not sub-groups bent on hating each other. Our enemies would Love to think they can divide us by the way and this feeds their stereotypes. I know this as the military has taken me all over the world. I really appreciate what Embarrassed Northerner brought this discussion. The truth is we are all much more alike than our accents and customs would have some believe.
Posted by Like2no2 on April 24, 2009 at 9:45 PM · Report this
Remember, guys. This was written the week after Bush got re-elected in 2004. It's venting, it's hilarious, and it's fuckin great. God bless the northeast and its big mouth. Better to shit-talk than to shit-think and be mentally constipated.
Posted by Seattle can learn something on April 28, 2009 at 6:31 PM · Report this
This is a very old article. I first saw it right after George Bush was re-elected. At that time a map of the red & blue states resembled the battle lines of the civil war.
Posted by obliogoose on April 29, 2009 at 2:35 PM · Report this
actually, that's how west-siders feel about east-siders here in the state... just sayin'...
Posted by annex'em on April 29, 2009 at 11:50 PM · Report this
Unbelievable that the Stranger would edit the original (at ), and also leave out the links, which are the best part of this hilarious essay, in my opinion.
Posted by Yow on July 12, 2009 at 5:52 PM · Report this
"'Cause we fucking founded this country, assholes." Massachusetts est. 1620, Virginia est. 1607.

Read a history book dickhead.
Posted by grr on July 15, 2009 at 12:01 PM · Report this
United States est. 1776 in Pennsylvania. Your point?
Posted by mattmag on July 18, 2009 at 1:32 AM · Report this
Yep, we should have let them secede when they wanted to. Their racism and arrogance -- towards the President and all of us millions who voted for him -- are beyond offensive. They all make me sick (with the possible exception of Northern Virginia, North Carolina and New Orleans)...TIME TO BOYCOTT THE SOUTH -- MONEY TALKS. WE AVOID SPENDING OUR MONEY ON ALL THINGS SOUTHERN. We DON'T TRAVEL THERE. WE CALL THEM WHAT THEY ARE...RACISTS AND FASCISTS. WE'RE DONE.
Posted by pgarr on September 11, 2009 at 8:19 AM · Report this
A Generalization of the south? Obviously. (Leave it to the Stranger, my old neighbors in Seattle, to go over-the-top with Op-Eds!)

As a proud southerner and ex-Seattlite of 9 years, who swears his love of both places equally, the premises of "F**k the South" are so ridiculous that it negates some of Seattle's own nefarious past.

The fact that in both the Southern Cascades and the Northern Rockies, have moved the majority of White Supremacists in the country, should raise an eyebrow. To be fair, these numbnuts chose the PacNW due to its wide open spaces, where one can hide out, hunker down, and ferment their paranoia unchecked until they become some of the area's most favorite form of criminal, mass murderers. In the last 40 years, they've moved to the area to escape the mid-west and south, where more and more minorities, women and *EEK!* liberals have taken charge or are making inroads.

But, let's not stop at 40 years; lets go back to the depression. Just 4 counties south of Seattle on I-5 lies the sleepy twin cities of Chehalis and Centralia in Lewis County. The predecessors of companies like Weyerhaeuser were lacking in workers to clear cut the new frontier of the Southern Cascades, in order to rip out and destroy old grow trees so erosion and toxins could build up in the streams.

So, what did they do? "Say, let's go to North Carolina were many loggers are impoverished and out of work." Why not? The lumber companies of NY had completely decimated the Appalachians so that they looked like a desert, so of course folks needed a hand up! So the left coasters packed up their trucks and drove to Mount Airy: polluted swimmin' holes, pig sties, hillbillies!

But, even by western standards, findin' all those good ole boy's up n' dah hollers was a might tough. After tryin' Elks, Eagles and "Odd Feller's" Clubs, they tried the organization that boasted more than just "a -few- good men"....they tried the (drum roll maestro please) John Birch Society! The lumber companies promised them acres of rich land in exchange for meager subsistence pay a company store (which like all, gouged them) and a hovle to live in. (If the Okies had only known how welcome they'd have been in Washington State, they'd never had gone to California after the dust bowl!)

They land they got was flood plain bottom land. Summers were great for growing, but come autumn - yer flooded, so don't build there! But, with thousands of acres between them, they knew they coould eek out a living on crops - particularly -after- the depression and WW2. What happened after WW2? Eisenhower built I-5 using public domain to take land from them for I-5. No problemo: there was so much land to be had, the government simply traded them land further off on high ground, with their frontage -on either side of I-5!-

Up went every form o' business along with land values, making the John Birchers and their decedents instant millionaires - which they remain to this day. Gone are their southern accents. Now they are civic leaders, padding their millions hidden in UBS accounts. The John Birchers were and are basically a more legitimized version of the KKK. The main difference is that instead of a scowl and a hand gun pushed into yer yeller belly, they smile, extend a hand and tell you that as an American, you have a right to die if you don't buy into their Limbaugh/Beck belief systems, and leave it at that. They have booths at county fairs, bake sales with the ladies auxillary and gun shows just to balance the whole Holsum Bakery style charade.

Down in Lewis County, they still have the habit of ppolitical corruption, raping the land, public policy and keeping down those who oppose them. They also have the habit of displaying and using their own good ole boy network to grease palms.

The next time you drive down I-5, stop at exit 76. You'll see a billboard with Uncle Sam on it and some epitaph along the lines of "US out of the UN" or "Divest in the commies at Evergreen College" (one of their favorite targets.) or "procecute Mothers who abort their babies" and other such backward thinking mindlessness. All courtesy of the used car dealer underneath it - a John Bircher. In fact, there are more John Birch society members living in the PacNW than anywhere else in the US.

In conclusion, the south no longer boasts as many conservative crazies as it used to - oh, we have our share. But, we statistically produce more PhDs, more writers and artists than any other region of the country. My resident state, Virginia, put Barak Obama over the top.

Go into the Hills around these parts of VA and down into NC, and you find, like in the rest of the country, quite a few red necks and specifically confederate flags. In fact, the family down the street, who are directly descended from slaves who once worked the property they now own, keep a confederate flag up every day.

We southerners love grits n' red eye gravy, cows tongue, ocra, chittlins and the plentiful supply of venison from deer that are so over-populated that 10 times as many are road-kill than could ever be hunted, at current rates. We like country music, sure. But, we also love blues, jazz and rock n' roll: all of which are southern inventions. We love our hills, shores, lowlands and the outdoors much more than the city, even if we -live- in the city. But, we also love the fine and performing arts in our states that spend more on the arts than most others in the country. (At one time Mississippi, the poorest state, spent more on arts funding from both public and private sources, per capita, than any other state.)

So, if conservatist extremism is the criteria to determine that we should "F*ck the South", ya better "F*ck the Northwest" first. Ergo, the next time you hear banjos playin in the distance, don't think of the south; think of driving along beautiful Route 20 cutting through the mountains from I-5 all the way to Yakima. Remember folks, if you're abducted while hiking the Cascades to "squeal like a pig", if you value your life.

Philip, now living in the Shenandoah mountains, known as Northwestern "the Freestate" Virginia.
Posted by Prosemo on September 18, 2009 at 10:10 AM · Report this
I gotta say. I read fuckthesouth right after the second Bush thingy and it gave me some reassuring solitude. After sitting through the incredible Democratic shrinking spine decades of the 80's. Then seeing Southern Baptists in charge of the Executive Branch and taking over leadership in both houses of Congress in the 90's, I couldn't get behind the Democratic Party of which my own political independence had slightly more faith. Seeing John Kerry attacked as elite while "plain-talking", the guy you-could-sit-down-and-have-a-beer-with dipshit grabbed another destructive 4 years as top-dog of our country.

There was very little to be proud about through most of this decade. As David Broder said about Clinton, but somehow, along with the legion of deaf, dumb and blind journalists who hypnotically or hallucinatingly tripped through the mid-90's and continued through Cheney/Bush, absentmindedly couldn't see just how "He came in here and trashed the place, and it wasn't even his place to trash." applied so aptly to the Cheney/Bush years, the "Fuck the South" Rant provided me some comfort.

Sure, the Reagan deregulation years and faux Conservative fiscal responsibility and brief experiment with 19th century trickle-down econ. not to mention the endeavor into illegally selling military equipment to an enemy to fund coups in Central America didn't apply to the South very much, but like fellow Californian Nixon before him, Reagan used all the political tools to exploit the stereo-types of the South to whip it up to his advantage for maximum support and usher in the shit of the 90's.

And then we had to live with the shit.
Posted by justanothernortherner on September 25, 2009 at 6:42 PM · Report this
Fuck yeah. Hear fucking hear!
Posted by shivvvers on September 25, 2009 at 7:36 PM · Report this
Gingerbread91 18
Ummm well I agree with you on some things, however being a girl from the south. The south isn't that bad. Hell yea I want to leave, but there are some advantages of living down here.
Posted by Gingerbread91 on September 28, 2009 at 4:52 PM · Report this
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I was born and raised in the South, and let me tell you it's not all stereotypes. Course, I was raised in one of the most crazy, fundamentalist towns in the South. Some parts of the South are crazier than others, some aren't too bad. I don't think Charleston is bad, but there are certain towns, enclaves, etc., that truly are full of John Birchers and the KKK. Hell, we had both organizations in the little rural farm town I lived in. Every week, one of the member made sure to write in the paper. But, I suspect the fundy crazy thing is not just a Red state thing any more. A lot of them have moved to traditionally blue state areas like CA and WA.
Posted by Vampireseal on September 30, 2009 at 7:50 PM · Report this
Okay. Let’s think about this "fuck the south" bit for a moment.

I should start off by saying that I live in Arkansas and consider the area I live in Northwest, AR, to be more tolerant than your “fuck the south” rant doles out.

I know it may seem to you that the south is a shit-hole, but for every story of idiocy here there are the same number of similar stories north, east and west. As a true progressive I must say that the tone of the piece is a huge overstatement.

Believe me, I understand your frustration with some elements of the South, but trust me when I tell you that you are incorrect about the whole of the South. Even Blanche Lincoln is finding out just how many liberals and progressives live in this state.

By the way, Arkansas is not as far south as you can get you know.

Just remember there are many, many, many good people here who do not share the old values or the backwoods ideals. Just last week a boy from West Fork, Arkansas refused to stand to or recite the Pledge of Allegiance until gay rights become equal to heterosexual rights.

I’m just hoping that you understand that even in your neck of the woods ignorance thrives.

Mark (thepoetryman)
Posted by thepoetryman on November 17, 2009 at 10:06 AM · Report this
People with values, common courtesy, manners, etc. Come from the south.

There not rude, pushy, run there mouths without backing it up, you are as cold as the wheather you live in.
Posted by real person on November 18, 2009 at 6:57 PM · Report this
love it, love it, love it. i am a born and raised charlotte nc resident. i have dealt with the southern religious, god's wrath republicans my whole life, many members of my family. this guy makes great points across the board about my peers. having visited boston for work frequently over the last twelve years i totally understand his over usage of (fuck). do not uses this as a judgment on the writers intelligence. the most brilliant people i have ever met in business have been from Boston and San Francisco. its no wonder they hold the two technology centers in the united states. ok, i await the gay references. (you are predictable)
Posted by Concord SPDWY SUX on November 21, 2009 at 8:22 PM · Report this
I grew up in Boston, but have lived in the south for the past 18 years. Statistics don't tell the whole story. All the major cities in Georgia voted for Obama, and black and white people canvased together through the neighborhoods during the election, driving people to poles, and baking cookies for people working the phones.

The problem with the liberal elite is that they are politically correct, but not streetwise. They don't understand what it means to be poor and struggling, but they know how to solve poor people's problems. They are out of touch.

As for the south: right now, in Savannah Georgia, my daughters go to a public montessori school with a plethora of gay teachers and fifty percent white and fifty percent black kids. They are living in a much more diverse world than I lived in when I grew up in Somerville Massachusetts.

As for founding fathers: Jefferson Davis and George Washington were southerners. Georgia, North Carolina, South Carolina, and Virginia are the original thirteen colonies.

Why not spend some real time in the South before kicking us out of the union?

Posted by sab on November 24, 2009 at 9:53 AM · Report this
To the Disgruntled Massachusetts Voter... Its better to keep your mouth closed and appear to be an idiot, than to speak and remove all doubt.

"In Dixieland I'll Take My Stand"!
Posted by Ridgewalker on February 6, 2010 at 4:06 PM · Report this
Hey - listen - the Northern states were just as racist as the southern states in the mid 19th century - and the civil war wasn't about slavery - it was about state's rights - before you radically criticize a group of people please do a little research first, or you are just as ignorant as any racist in the world - and remember - New York at the end of the 19th century was way crueler to the Italian and Irish immigrants than the southern slaveholders were to the Africans - they had somewhere to sleep and food on the table - the North left the Irish and Italians out in the street and let their babies die because they couldnt afford milk. All slave babies got don't be too hasty with your criticism because the south isn't the only place in the world where ignorance exists...its everywhere - you cant escape it.
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I'M FROM THE SOUTH AND KNOW the truth is often hard to accept. You can never tell someone the truth against what they have already been told and expect them to believe it right away, they must verify a wide range of topics Lies don't last long under scrutiny In the long run, the truth ends up standing out for those peaying attention I've learned the truth about things like fluoride, vaccinations, false flags, the Iraq and Afghan wars, history, assassinations, oil, the Constitution, law, the court system, politics, gold, the media, corrupt politicians, the Federal Reserve Banks and much more, relying on mainstream media for news is ignorant most mainstream media is deceiving our nation it is a shame to see truth and open discussion suppressed in favor of political expediency if you speak the truth your labeled a conspiracy theorists and as soon as the public hears those
words your dead in the water, conspiracy theorists speaking lets research and see what happens
425,000 cubic yards of concrete and 200,000 tons of steel were designed to hold up against a Boeing 707, the largest plane built at the time the towers were completed in 1973. Analysis had shown that a 707 traveling at 600 miles an hour (and those had four engines) would not cause major damage. The twin-engine Boeing 757s that hit on 9/11 were going 440 and 550 miles an hour.
"gravity driven collapse" without demolition charges defies the laws of physics. These buildings fell, at nearly the rate of free-fall, straight down into their own footprint, in approximately ten seconds scientists found chips of nano-thermite peer-reviewed Open Chemical Physics Journal, in April 2009 Think long and hard about what is happening around us America who thinks all threats to the American Dream are from external sources The threat from within is so imminent and such a large elephant, and so in-the-open that many fail to see it
Xe Services (formerly Blackwater), Haliburton, KBR, Carlysle Group, Raytheon, DARPA, Dept of Defense, and Dept of Homeland Security, for starters. 9-11 has resulted in Hundreds of billions of dollars in revenue to these entities. Time to start thinking, researching and answering your own questions while the internet is still uncensored organizations that are really running this country: Big Banking, Big Business, Big Government Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain On Sept. 6, 2001, the Thursday before the tragedy, 2,075 put options were made on United Airlines and on Sept. 10, the day before the attacks, 2,282 put options were recorded for American Airlines. Given the prices at the time, this could have yielded speculators between $2 million and $4 million in profit "Owner" of the WTC, Larry Silverstein collected; In February of 2002 Silverstein Properties won $861 million from Industrial Risk Insurers to rebuild on the site of WTC 7. Silverstein Properties' estimated investment in WTC 7 was $386 million. So: This building's collapse resulted in a profit of about $500 million.
A federal jury on Monday ruled that the assault on the Twin Towers of the World Trade Center was in fact two occurrences for insurance purposes. The finding in U.S. District Court in Manhattan means leaseholder Larry Silverstein may collect up to $4.6 billion, according to reports I would guess that would be a great place for you to start when it comes to trying to follow the money. You know what they say, you want the "Truth"? Follow the money. In long before the enormous corporate mergers of the past decade, the then Chase Manhattan Bank held 5.2% of the voting stock of Mobil Oil and 4.5% of Atlantic Richfield (now Arco). Through ownership of shares or membership on Boards of Directors, the Rothschild, Rockefeller, and Morgan families also controlled the largest U.S. insurance, pharmaceutical and food corporations in 1972.
Department of Defense awards for the top five weapons contractors grew from $43.5 billion in 2001 to $66.4 billion in 2003. During the first 24 hours of the 2003 war on Iraq the U.S. fired 500 of Raytheon's Tomahawk missiles at a cost of $600,000 per missile.
gas in the U.S. rose despite the output of oil from Iraq also rising toward its pre-invasion level of 2.4 million barrels a day
OMG !!!! I just looked in the mirror, and scared the hell out of myself!!! I must be a real danger to the establishment! Oooooooo-- should I call the FBI on myself? out of 278,058,881 people, 2,752 deaths is regarded as a small price to pay in order to gain public support for policy
The people who actually have power in any highly established government/corporation of any country, (and by this I mean the few at the very top layers of our social structure, those in a position where money has no meaning and is mearly a tool of control over the herd) can do what ever they desire. We then have to pick up the pieces. Yet sadly by the time transparency is achieved over a matter, BANG - a new event unfolds. americans have had the worst brainwashing/indoctrination on the planet (it seems to me anyway) hence this sort of thing is unimaginable to most americans, yet the rest of the world have known for decades.(think of all those american flags that have been publicly burnt, these people dont just burn flags in their spare time for a laugh I can assure you.) Think about it.
we will have another false flag but i'm not as conserned about that as i am about the plans for us look in your own back yard whats
happening is comming faster and faster just some of us can see the ground before others and when we hit its not going to look good
any body want some ketchup thats not good for you it could be dangeries its gatt to much truth syrup in it you might not like the taste
but as they say never know until you try it (i'm just a tiny little fish with some really big sharks trying to eat me just trying to stay ahead of the game and warn others) i care thats why i share.
Posted by THOSE DAM SOUTHRENERS MIGHT KNOW SOMETHING on March 22, 2010 at 8:00 PM · Report this
People, read what "Like2no2" and "Seattle can learn something" posted and chill out.

I'd just like to add that, in the end, what this guy was railing against was the double standard in which Southern stereotypes are considered the handiwork of elitist, baby-killing heathens, while stereotypes of us Northeners are thought of as pretty much on the mark. OK?
Posted by Kiko Jones on March 24, 2010 at 12:48 AM · Report this
Damn; as a Southerner, you make me (and I'm sure every other Southerner who reads this) extremely embarrassed I am not part of, and envious of the "fucking northeast liberal elite." Your ignorance is truly astonishing as you seem to be a part of the "fucking northeast liberal elite."
Though I am a conservative, and I suppose ignorant because of that fact, just as you have explained in this article, I do beleive that it is true that the 42nd president of the United States, and that the 2000 democratic Presidential candidate was Al Gore. As Gore is from Tennessee and Clinton is from Arkansas, I would believe I am right in stating that they are both are from the South.
Also, on another note, I would believe I am right in stating that many of the founding fathers were from the South. In fact, I believe George Washington, James Madison, and Thomas Jefferson are all from the South. Even during the Civil War, the infamous President Abraham Lincoln was, in fact, from the South, as he was born in Kentucky and considered himself a Kentuckian until death.
On another note, the Northeast is home to seven top ten states in terms of federal debt. In fact, your beloved Massachusetts is first on that list.....This is obviously a result of the northeast "building and supporting" the South though.
It has also appeared to me that many people from the northeast vacation in the South. I am sure you are against this, and I am curious as to why they would want to come to the South if it was sooooo bad. I will take it on you to stop this trend, as northerners vacationing in the South puts money that should be in the north's economy into the South's economy. You should get them to vacation instead to the New Jersey coast,or the Vermont coast, or Cape Cod. I have heard those places have wonderful weather during the winter, as long as their isn't a blizzard. I have also heard that the New York bay has some of the best swimming water in the country. Thank God liberals care so much about saving the environment.
I am sure I have made countless mistakes in this response and I will leave it to you to correct them. Once again, I am just completely ashamed not to be a "fucking northeast liberal elite."
Posted by South on March 24, 2010 at 2:35 PM · Report this
4030lisa 30
Haha!! This is simply superb, dont alter a single word...just reading it acts as a brilliant vent for the average northeasterners pent up frustrations! Just what I needed! :oD

Posted by 4030lisa on March 25, 2010 at 7:46 AM · Report this
#5 is wrong!
The history of the Civil War, and the reasons for Southern rebellion, all have their roots in slavery and the Southern Elite's wish to keep them (to protect their revenue streams, cant beat free labor)...they were also in fear of being murdered in their sleep by those newly freed slaves (long live John Brown). 'States Rights' have always been the 'thinking-Southern-man's' impotent excuse for the conflict...but this argument fails just below the surface becasue why? What rights were those states trying to keep? Thats right...slavery. Try as you might we southerners cannot wash away the horrible past with a clever lexicon. And I don't care if Lincoln was a racsist (which I don't believe) he freed the slaves so who gives a shit!
Posted by mcDamon on March 27, 2010 at 1:39 PM · Report this
OK, I feel like I have to weigh in here. I'm from the Midwest, but have lived in the South and now, D.C. No, D.C. is not a "sleepy Southern city", the District votes 90%-92% democratic. Having said that, I lived in the Northern Virginia suburbs, and got to know Virginia fairly well. I think I saw one blogger who correctly pointed out that the FIRST English settlement was in Virginia, not Plymouth. In fact when the Mayflower hit the big rock, there were 11, yes ELEVEN settlements in Va. In case you missed it, Jefferson and Washington were both Virginians. Yes, , Southerners. I'm an active liberal, but please, get your history right.
Posted by dwindc on March 29, 2010 at 6:27 PM · Report this
I live in Northern VA...born and raised. I don't think people who reside here really consider us a part of the south at all. In fact, we're a world apart from the rest of VA. There's even been talk of forming a separate state with DC. In a hypothetical splitting of the country I highly doubt northern VA would go along with the rest of VA...that is if VA would even go along with the south at all at this point. We were a blue state in the last presidential election.
Posted by BYL80 on March 30, 2010 at 6:07 PM · Report this
Posted by gillettebret on April 2, 2010 at 12:33 AM · Report this
If anyone who is reading this thinks that this is a literal interpretation of what the North thinks of the south is just incorrect. What I think this was an attempt to do was to rant about the Southern Republicans who seem to be against everything that Our President Obama tries to accomplish in the name of not wanting the government to interfere with their lives. It was to poke fun at the Sounthern Conservative agenda. I don't think it was intended to include all southern people. It was funny and clever and was needed because we in the Northern Blue states are tired of Republicans telling us that we aren't American enough and don't have American values!!!
Posted by jdajlp on April 3, 2010 at 7:45 PM · Report this
AWESOME. And I'm a native Texan. Ole big hair Rick Perry wants Texas to SECEDE. Go-ahead I say. Fuck off.
Posted by Burg on April 5, 2010 at 7:09 PM · Report this
Thaaank you.

Truer words were never spoken. While they are pounding it up their ass, do you think they can stuff Sarah Palin & the rest of the Republican party up there as well?

Because that would be just delightfull.
Posted by RushLimbaughisSatan on April 6, 2010 at 9:36 PM · Report this
When I heard that 70% of all Federal Entitlements go to gun totin', book burning, red-states I just laughed.
Those shiftless inbred, confederate layabouts prancing around as proud as illiterate peacocks is why our nation is only a shadow of her former glory!
Whole swaths of this once great nation are teeming with lazy, uneducated inbred confederate bums!
George W. AWOL wasn't qualified to preside over a high school class but, because that southern base of inbred losers only looks at where the candidate comes from, we had to put up with 8 years of a retarded boy embarrassing my nation on the world stage!
Then we had Caribou Barbie boasting to her useless base of sister fucking hillbillies that Alaska was a Real-State and that the states where the Boston Tea-Party, the Midnight Ride of Paul Revere and The Shot Heard Round The World, to name but a few, took place aren't really American I wanted to cry at their inbred stupidity.
Alaska, America's biggest socialist charity state is the Real America?
If you really believe that your Mom and Dad were almost certainly brother and sister!
So, do your useless children a favor and leave already.
I mention your useless children because here in modern America we no longer have any use for primitive children so, unless you want them sweeping floors or shoveling shit, you'd better launch your own inbred nation where your useless uneducated primitive kids can have a better more fulfilling life being Piggly Wiggly cashiers.
Posted by boboday555 on May 2, 2010 at 9:33 AM · Report this
boboday555 - you want us to get the fuck out of your country?

WE FUCKING TRIED. You responded by sending troops to burn our homes and drag us kicking and screaming back to make yourselves feel better.
Posted by sprawwl on May 2, 2010 at 11:24 AM · Report this
We'll gladly leave again. This entire article is ridiculous and based on spectacular ignorance, to the point where I'm not even sure if it's real or if it's satire, but one point in particular stands out: the Southern states do get more in federal tax dollars than we pay in federal income taxes, but NOT BY CHOICE. The only reason we receive so many federal dollars is that you "blue" states have crammed so many social programs down our throats that we simply don't have the money to pay for them. If it was up to us, there would be no federal reserve, no social security, no farm subsidies, no medicare, no Obamacare, etc. We would be just fine without all of your nanny-state programs and we'd have plenty of money left over to pay for our roads.

I hope that more Southern people see this article so that we can get them motivated to actually leave. I've wanted to live in a free country all my life.
Posted by TomUtley on May 18, 2010 at 5:31 AM · Report this
Awesome! Then I don't have to worry about you retiring here? And take your grandmother back too.
Posted by RastusJr on May 18, 2010 at 5:40 AM · Report this
Most Southerners and traditional Americans would love to leave the financial and spiritual bankrupt socialists in MA, CA, NYC and DC FOREVER! Maybe we should secede again or a better idea maybe we should just kick out the cess pool of corrupt politicians and the governments (including the Feds) of these states out of the union and go back to The Articles of Confederation without the debts and burdens of these corrupt entities.
Posted by Free the South on May 18, 2010 at 5:46 AM · Report this

Dare to have a history lesson? Read this article then go buy his books.

One more thing, consider yourself lucky to have been born at all. Have you traced your roots? Were your ancestors soldiers? Are you proud of your heritage and family traditions? Would you speak this way in front of them? I hope you answer no.

Whether your family fought for the north or not, is irrelevant. I feel a deep sadness that this is their legacy. This nasty diatribe from a supposed fellow human being.

Be ashamed of yourself. They certainly would be. And that goes for all that can not voice their opinions without being a filthy and uncaring person toward the populace of part of your own country. A person who can not fashion an argument without resorting to name calling and foul language truly represents themselves as a simpleton.

As a Southerner, I feel a deep sorrow for the loss of the northern soldiers who were tricked into fighting for a tyrant such as Lincoln and his ilk.

Posted by Violet White on May 18, 2010 at 6:29 AM · Report this
Dr. Thomas James DeLorenzo

Article entitled:

Abraham Lincoln US Authoritarianism Free Market History

Posted by Violet White on May 18, 2010 at 6:38 AM · Report this
1Bigbeam 45
First of all, the heart of the author of this article, is so lacking in virtue that in battle, it wouldn't surprise me if he wouldn't be the first to receive a bullet in the head. "Out of the abundance of the heart, the mouth speaketh." He is no leader of any cause, truly a wicked man.
The 13th amendment freed the slaves, not Lincoln.
The 14th amendment created a Corporation out of the United States. We ALL became SLAVES because of it.
Our Nation, today, is not a socialistic or Communistic government, but a combination of both and it is now governed by what is called "corporatism" This far greater a threat than any our Constitution has to deal with. It is ruthless and it's scope is world-wide... It's buSINess as usual... Only POWER matters and what they can STEAL from everyone...
The cause of the SOUTH is the cause of us ALL!!
The South was the only Consitutional government this country ever had and Lincoln knew it, that is why he INVADED the South.
Lincoln was the beginning of the end of this Republic's Constitution. He was no hero...
I feel for the subdued and truly lost North.
They believe everything they are told, especially those packed in sardine can, multi-level hi-rise communities who have absolutely nothing and can not live without the government or they will certainly parish. There is only SLAVERY for them...You must DO WHAT YOU ARE TOLD!!
In corporatism, it is CHEAPER to kill a million than to support them!!! That is BuSINess!!!
That is why they allow the Mexicans and Muslims in, so we can save them the trouble of being active in thinning the crop.
Now, if we turn our attention to not only those two groups but, the Corporate elite, the real source of all our problems, FREEDOM from Government control will be ours and our Constitution restored.
Posted by 1Bigbeam on May 18, 2010 at 6:49 AM · Report this
Wow, what an ignorant opinion of a beautiful part of the USA. The Civil War (aka: The War of Northern Aggression) was NOT over slavery. Yes, slavery was an issue but it was more over the States Rights.

Question: If it was about slavery, why did Lincoln release ONLY the slaves in the states where he had no authority, namely the CSA? The ones in the northern states (including Mrs. Lincoln's) remained slaves.

Did you know, Mr. Ignoramus, that there were BLACK slave owners? You really need to do a little research of history before you spout off.

Also...if secession was illegal, explain West Virginia.
Posted by Southern Living on May 18, 2010 at 6:58 AM · Report this
I wish the person who wrote the article was here right now so I could beat them to death. But I guess that person is just a pussy, because they are hiding their identity. Liberals are pussies! Come get some; let's have another civil war and see who wins this time.

[edit: Name removed by request. - webmaster]
Posted by JP5375 on May 18, 2010 at 7:00 AM · Report this
Being from South Carolina, let me say we were here at the beginning. And the South would be a better place if not for the ongoing constant immigration (illegal) of people from 'up there.' and as the bumper sticker says, "we don't give a fuck how you do things up North."

Oh, and show some balls by putting your name on the rant.
Posted by proudfromsouth on May 18, 2010 at 8:01 AM · Report this
You make the South's points every time you open your mouth and allow your ignorance to pour out (along with all the other garbage you insist on shoveling)! There is much truth to the axiom, "give a fool enough rope and they will hang themselves". Thank you, anonymous, for being the perfect object lesson for this fact. Cowards, wimps, and terrorists are the only ones so ashamed of their actions and utterances to go by the title of "anonymous".
Posted by liberal's worst nightmare on May 18, 2010 at 8:45 AM · Report this
Who wants to have a convention in New York? Thid is one of those libertatd idiots than doesn't know history very well and makes up for his lack of intelligence with a toilet mouth.
Posted by JDW on May 18, 2010 at 9:45 AM · Report this
WOW how can someone be so ignorant I guess just his vulgar language shows his true intellect
Posted by southerngal on May 18, 2010 at 9:48 AM · Report this
Only craven yellow bellies write anonymously...

If you haven't the courage of your convictions or a true belief in what you say, then sit down and shut up you moral and intellectual coward !!!
Posted by BSnowden on May 18, 2010 at 10:23 AM · Report this
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News flash -The north had just as many slaves as the south,we also had and I repeat we had more black soldiers fighting on our side than the north,the war was not about slavery.(that is what the north made up to make it look good on paper and in text books)You people will twist any and everything to get a vote.You are so rediculous that you are letting the Muslims build a mosgue at ground zero(what a slap accross the faces of those families who lost their loved ones) you are pathetic libs who are afraid to stand up and fight for anything moral because you are afriad that someone GOD forbid might call you racist.We on the other hand do not and will not back down and/or be bullied by the like of other countries and anyone who does not like our moral values.
Posted by chilepepper911 http://mark levin on May 18, 2010 at 11:08 AM · Report this
In addition to having a real potty mouth problem, this author is ignorant of his history. The majority of founding fathers including Washington, Jefferson, Madison and Henry were southeners from Virginia.
Posted by LibertarianBiker on May 18, 2010 at 12:12 PM · Report this
Allow me to say a few words on behalf of my Southern friends, and perhaps, on behalf of those living in other “red states,” as well as on behalf of “red state” individuals like myself who live in “blue states” – all of whom you have so thoroughly insulted.

Wow! Mr. "Anonymous" is going to kick my ass? How courageous. Given the fact that you’ve chosen to hide behind an “anonymous” screen name, I’m not exactly shaking in my boots!

Ok, Mr. Anonymous, now hear this. Throughout the “Civil War”, many Southerners repeatedly stated “All we ask is to be left alone.” Of course, a lot of people from states like yours just couldn’t understand what those words meant. So let me lay it out for you, albeit 150 years too late:

Keep your gay marriage. You can marry another guy, or your dog, or your pet mongoose for all I care. Just don’t tell me I have to allow it where I live.

Keep your precious Yankee dollars. We don’t need your money to buy stop signs. We’ll build our own thank you, and we’ll include a brand new sign as well, one which will be placed at our states’ borders and which will be directed at people like you and which will say, “KEEP OUT!”

Don’t like the 10 commandments? Fine - you can stick up a picture of a golden calf in your statehouse or a picture of Donald Duck or a picture of Paris Hilton for all I care. Just don’t tell me what I may or may not put up in my statehouse.

Don’t like our Confederate flags? No one says you have to like them. You don’t live here so it should, in theory at least, be none of your concern. While it always seems that folks like you feel compelled to order Southerners not to fly their Confederate flags, I have yet to hear of any Southerners telling "northeast liberal elites" to take down that statue of the greatest barn burner in history (General Sherman) from Union Square. And given the difference in temperaments between the two peoples, I don’t expect that I will be seeing the latter any time soon either.

Don’t lecture us about the Constitution. We are quite fond of it and its amendments, or at least the amendments that were written by the Founding Fathers. The first amendment, for example, is what keeps us free and you won’t find many people in red states advocating for the scrapping of it or for government control of free speech. You will find that sort of crap however, emanating from the blue states, from, yes, those “northeast liberal elites” who are simply too dense to realize that tyranny cannot ever exist in a place where freedom of speech is a jealously guarded right. And yes, we are even willing to tolerate the verbal diarrhea of those like you in order to protect that right and to remain free. We also believe strongly in the 10th amendment. Go look it up and see if your petty little mind can comprehend what it says. And we also believe that the Constitution is to be taken literally. This belief differs markedly from the interpretation of “northeast liberal elites” who seem to feel that it is a “living breathing document,” which can be interpreted any which way that suits them at whatever time.

And don’t lecture us about the American Revolution and about how you founded this country. If we had left it all to you guys, we’d all be drinking tea and gulping down crumpets today. And Jamestown Virginia, for your information, preceded Plymouth by 13 years - go read a history book. And oh, let me give you two words to ponder in regards to the Revolution, “George Washington.” (He happened to be from Virginia, by the way). So by all means, keep your Plymouth Rock. You can fasten it to a chain, wrap it around your neck and hurl yourself into Nantucket Sound for all we care. We’ve got enough of our own history to keep us busy.

“We should have let them go when they wanted to leave”? Yes, you should have. But it simply isn’t in your nature. If left alone, you would have no one to lecture, no one to intimidate, no one to bully, no one to badger, no one to look down your noses at, no one to tell how to live their lives, and no one to hurl your 4 letter word insults at. In short, you would wither and die, because those are the things that keep you “northeast liberal elites” going. They are the things which give meaning to your droll little lives and which make you who and what you are. Do you really want to know what the true cause of the Civil War was? Go look in the nearest mirror and you’ll see it staring back at you.

Still want to let us go? It’s not too late. There are, I think, many in the Southern states and in the “red” states in general, who would gladly say “adios” to those of your ilk. Just show us where to sign and it’ll be a done deal.
Posted by wildbill4dixie on May 18, 2010 at 1:52 PM · Report this
48 - "Oh, and show some balls by putting your name on the rant."

Um, that's kind of funny, "proudfromsouth." Maybe you should take your own advice first?
Posted by DJDeeJay on May 18, 2010 at 2:25 PM · Report this
Some time the truth hurts. I love it!
Posted by Kansas girl on May 18, 2010 at 6:39 PM · Report this
I thought it was funny, but what's even funnier is how many people got bent out of shape over it. Good thing we're not standing on a playground; there'd be pushing and bitch slappings galore.
Posted by AgelessStranger on May 19, 2010 at 1:54 PM · Report this
"Um", first of all Mr. "DJDEEJAY," the author of this screed is a writer for what purports to be an online publication. The norm is that writers for such publications usually give their names. And second, I really don't think that "DJDEEJAY" is your legal name, so practice what you preach. Sorry if my rant offends you...."um"...but on second thought, I'm not sorry at all.
Posted by wildbill4dixie on May 19, 2010 at 6:52 PM · Report this
This guy is crazier than they people who voted for Obama!!!!

Many of the founding fathers were from Virgina and last I checked that was not a New England state.

Fighting for slavery? Are you serious? I'd send this out anonymous too if I was a history illiterate who only knows the "Liberal New England " version of the war. I suppose he knows nothing of the uncosntitutional tariffs and other economic issues that caused the War Between the States.

Since I am a Southerner with some class I can make my points with out using offensive language too!!!!!
Posted by Conservative Confederate on May 19, 2010 at 10:56 PM · Report this
Hmmm... to all those saying that the writer needs to put their name on it...

It's from "", and I'm willing to bet that at this point, no-one knows who the actual author is. Thus, it's attributed to anonymous.

He's absolutely 100% correct about the red states getting handouts while they bitch about the blue states getting them - while all the time, the blue states are the ones paying the freight though.
Posted by SickOfPayingTheFreight on May 20, 2010 at 9:35 AM · Report this
"Hmmm...." If you place the bet that no one knows who the actual author is, you just might lose. Look at this page on "The Stranger"'s website and you'll see that there is a whole page of articles by "mr anonymous". In fact, at the top it says "Articles by Anonymous."…

Odd that the editor's email address is on top. Maybe he wrote it? In any case, I seriously doubt that this is a one shot deal by some unknown author. Judging from the number of articles, it appears that someone is going under a pen name. No matter.

Talk to the folks in the red state about those "freight" charges. Chances are, if you'd agree to leave them alone, they'd happily give you back any money you've already forked over, and, with interest.
Posted by wildbill4dixie on May 20, 2010 at 5:22 PM · Report this
After years of reading The Stranger and Savage online, you have finally gotten me to register. GO FUCK YOURSELF. I am from Texas. Which is part of the south. And yes, we have some crazies here. DO NOT PRESUME TO JUDGE ME. DO NOT PRESUME TO JUDGE THE SOUTH. There are good people here. Educated people People working to advance this country and all the good it stands for, including womens, immigrant, and gay rights. I am tired of all the bigots treating us like idiots based on the actions of the extremists. Me and other like-minded individuals work hard to create a liberal, open environment for all to live in in this great state of ours. Your generalizations do a disservice to all of us. Fuck you and the horse you rode in on.
Posted by jomama on May 20, 2010 at 11:41 PM · Report this
So three founding fathers were from the south...oooo How impressive. Ben Franklin, Sam Adams, and Paul Revere. See how easy that was. Next, most of the major battles of the War of Independence were fought in the North. Boston Tea Party, which you tea party fools named yourself after, where did that take place again? We're just as american as you red-staters and we're not gonna take being called traitors for wanting health care reform, an end to our foreign wars, or gay marriage. It was cute for 8 years, but we're over it now.

Next, We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

Reread that over and over and over again, until the message sinks in.
Posted by valeanora on May 21, 2010 at 12:56 AM · Report this
Danrilor 65
The article makes a good point that southerners ignore because of all the F bombs and thinly veiled threats, the worst of which is giving them what they want. Don't like paying taxes? Want to let the corrupt anti-union corperations buy and sell the people of your state? Think that free enterprise will keep your freeways from crumbling and your electricity affordable? That's ok. Give it a try. We'll keep paying our taxes and our union dues. We'll just watch while you try that out. I've already seen the conservative utopia. It is a place where there is no gun control, women's rights, and attendance of religious services is mandatory. There is no pesky government regulation of banks, labor unions, or commie health care. Everybody smokes, nobody drinks, and the government is run by religious fundimentalists. Most people call this place Iraq, and you can have it because I would rather live in America.
Posted by Danrilor on May 22, 2010 at 6:39 AM · Report this
God Damn! I haven't laughed so hard in a while. Great stuff! Forwarding it to many people.
Posted by Crash on May 22, 2010 at 2:25 PM · Report this
You're an ignorant bigot. While ALL my ancestors are Southern I would never say " f**k the North". Also it's important to understand that as far as the Founding Fathers were concerned many of them if not the majority were Southern! For instance George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, James Madison, James Monroe, Patrick Henry, George Mason, Benjamin Harrison, "Light Horse" Harry Lee, Richard Henry Lee, Francis Lee etc. Next it's also important to under stand that The U.S.A. was founded in the South at Jamestown,Virginia in 1607 that's 13 years before the Pilgrims landed at Plymouth Rock! Next as far as the slave trade is concerned it couldn't have taken place without all those Yankee merchant ships! It's also important to remember that approximently 300,000 WHITE Southerners fought for the Union in the Civil War as a matter of fact every "Conferderate" state, with the exception of South Carolina, produced a battalion of troops for the Union Army including an entire cavalry regiment from Alabama the 1st Alabama Cavalry, USA(read Lincoln's Loyalists by Richard Current)! Abraham Lincoln was a Southerner, birth and childhood in Kentucky his parents were born and raised in Kentucky and his grandparents were from Virginia,Lincolns 2nd V.P. Andrew Johnson was born and raised in North Carolina and was elected Governor of and Senator from Tennessee and appointed Military Governor of Tennesse, the man who saved the high ground at Gettysburg,Union Cavalry General John Buford, had the SAME background as Lincoln. Arguably the best General the Union had was George Henry Thomas, the Rock of Chickamauga(read Master of War by Benson Bobrick)!The 3 best Presidents on Civil Rights have all been Southerners. Lincoln (see above)who freed the slaves, Harry S Truman (who came from Kentuckians who settled in Missouri) desegregated the Armed Services and public accomodations in Washington, D.C. and Lyndon Johnson (from the Hill Country of Texas)who was responsible for pushing through the 1957 Civil Rights act, the 1964 Civil Rights act and the 1965 Voting Rights act!Also the most successful Civil Rights leader ever, The Reverend Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. was born and raised in Georgia! And finally (whew!) the highest per capita service in the Armed Services, ethnically speaking, are the Scots-Irish the vast majority of whom are(stop if you've heard this before!)SOUTHERN! This is not to say I hate northerners (go into the hills of New Hampshire and Vermont or the backwoods of Maine or southern Ohio and they will BEND YOUR EAR on the subject of gun rights, God bless 'em!) I'm just saying that you sir are an IGNORANT BIGOT!
Posted by Mitchell Day on May 22, 2010 at 3:17 PM · Report this
Made my day. I often daydream about what a great nation this would be if the south had seceded. They could have their own little nation of inbred porch-monkeys and we'd have a nation with a MUCH higher average IQ. One can but dream...
Posted by death makes some of us happy on May 23, 2010 at 10:42 AM · Report this
I find the illustration offensive. Why not draw Sambo's and asians with gigantic teeth?
Posted by fetish on May 23, 2010 at 11:29 AM · Report this
i'm pro-science and i vote 70
Yeah I love this rant, I remember I first saw it right after Bush won (stole?) re-election in 2004. The Stranger published it in a very pissed, sad issue, right after election.
Liberals need to be more aggressive against these hateful, paranoid, christian-hypocrite, jingoistic, arrogant, teabagger-friendly right wingers, like this writer
Posted by i'm pro-science and i vote on May 23, 2010 at 5:02 PM · Report this
I am often embarassed by the extremists and oddlots who don't seem to have noticed that the South (in which I live and am from) lost and, in that, lost any room to foment new revolution. At the same time, victors could try and be a little gracious to an area of our country which has remained, largely, impoverished and criminally ignorant since the aftermath of the civil war. Perhaps with American factories and production being shipped abroad or being unable to compete with third world labor, the rest of our nation might learn how difficult it is to reinvent a way of being nationally and globally successful. Most of my friends and I are able, after years of effort, can watch tv without moving our lips. And some of us are die-hard democrats more fearful of Republican big business politics than we are of liberal democrats who attempt to ameliorate the condtion of our growing underclass.
Posted by roger walker on May 23, 2010 at 8:00 PM · Report this
WOW----I feel sorry for Southern Democrats!!
How do you folks survive through all that racism, corruption and bass-ackward ignorance?

And no, I'm not being flippant. I went through basic military training in Orlando, Florida, and technical school in Meridian, Mississippi, where the KKK, 25 years after the Civil Rights Movement, proudly marched through fields, forests, and everybody's backyards.

And after the four months of my rigorous training was up, gracious Southern hospitality or no gracious Southern hospitality, I COULD NOT WAIT TO RETURN TO MY NATIVE PACIFIC NORTHWEST before reporting to my duty station in California.

In my opinion, a lot of lawmaking and beliefs down there were, and still are---just plain sad.
Posted by aunt bee on May 24, 2010 at 2:59 AM · Report this
@72: Lord have mercy!

I couldn't have said it better myself.
Posted by auntie grizelda on May 24, 2010 at 3:46 AM · Report this
Well I did see the humorous truth in some of that rant, I had to stop reading it because I just got so fucking sick of reading more fucking expletives added for no other fucking reason than to fill fucking space because the fucking author was too fucking stupid to learn some new fucking adjectives to sprinkle through his fucking opinion. I hope it ended well, but I just couldn't fucking bother to continue reading.

Posted by AreYouHighOrWhat on May 24, 2010 at 11:16 AM · Report this
Well I did see the humorous truth in some of that rant, but I had to stop reading it because I just got so fucking sick of reading more fucking expletives added for no other fucking reason than to fill fucking space because the fucking author was too fucking stupid to learn some new fucking adjectives to sprinkle through his fucking opinion. I hope it ended well, but I just couldn't fucking bother to continue reading.

Posted by AreYouHighOrWhat on May 24, 2010 at 11:16 AM · Report this
Not only was this op-ed poorly written and researched, but it made me ashamed to share a political party with such a hypocritical and close-minded individual.
Posted by for serious? on May 25, 2010 at 5:35 PM · Report this
I am from, and currently live in, the deep South. I and my friends are progressive, open-minded, and stand up to the racism and homophobia that we encounter on a daily basis.

That said, this rant IS RIGHT-THE-FUCK-ON! I live in the South because I love the weather and I stay to the big cities because the red-state rednecks scare the shit out of me. I consider leaving all the time, but there are some bonuses to living here... just can't think of any besides the weather right now.

I'm reposting this for my friends.
Posted by MusicCityDemocrats on May 26, 2010 at 8:15 AM · Report this
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People who are now just reading this and commenting think about the time it was written: late 2004. Just after two years of having that whole "us here in the Red States are the REAL AMERICANS" shoved in our (Blue States) faces ad nauseum. Kerry was constantly accused of someohow being not a "real" American because he was from Mass. (you know, where the Boston Tea Party happened?) and Bush was somehow a "real American" because he came from Texas (you know, a state where the US flag is just the latest of many?). There was a certain irony there.

Then, those statistics came out which are still basically accurate. Red States do tend to take more federal dollars and have higher divorce rates. But hey, they are the REAL Americans!
Posted by SpecialBrew on May 27, 2010 at 6:36 AM · Report this
Its my money, not the governments. And just to let you know, where I was born, Chicago, those Northers dumb Yankees built that on a swamp also. Long Live the South. DEO VINDICE.
Ooooh, and you said you were going to come kick my ass if I said Its my money, not the governments. Well, I diddnt say it, but I typed it. And I would say it to your face and you can try and kick my ass, Mr. All talk. But I doubt you will do it. All the times in my life I have gotten told I was gunna get my ass kicked, it never happened. My e-mail address is
If you want to arrange time and date for you to come to Chicago to try and kick my ass. Right before Ill tell you that its my money and not the governments. LOL, I diddnt see your government at my job today doing my job. I saw me there. I dripped sweat, not ur government. It was my balls that were sweating, not theirs. Yes, Its mine.
Posted by Sovereign Bill on June 3, 2010 at 2:46 AM · Report this
What a bunch of ignorant elitist liberal assholes, maybe you should read a fucking book that comes from the source slavery was only a small reason for the civil war. The biggest one was President Lincoln the fascist that he was sent the federal army into the southern states to impose his will and stomp all over states rights. For another thing all the people in the pacific North West practice liberal fascism think my way or you’re a bigot and a racist, we call names because we are not smart enough to argue the points. I guess it must be all that dope that you dopes smoke. Oh and fuck you all and your fucking mother to.
Posted by coolhandluke46 on June 6, 2010 at 6:55 PM · Report this
Beautiful. (wipes tear from eye) I mean, fucking beautiful. (sobs, runs off stage screaming "FUCKYEAH!")
Posted by thepoliticalcat on June 10, 2010 at 6:57 PM · Report this
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Regarding the civil war: It was either North or South Carolina (I don't remember at the moment) who first seceded from the Union, as a direct response to the election of Abraham Lincoln, who had founded the Republican (!) party on an anti-slavery platform (again, !). The state then issued a declaration explaining why they felt that the Union was a contract and that the federal goverment had breached that contract. Literally every single reason that they gave had to do with slavery, either directly or indirectly.

Lincoln went to war specifically to preserve the union. That was his one goal at the start of the war. He only gave a shit about slaves later on, when it becamse clear that he needed to give the public a reason to keep supporting the war.

What does all this mean? It means that 1) if you are saying that slavery didn't have anything to do with the Civil War, then you are wrong, and 2) if you are saying that the Civil War was all about slavery, then you are wrong as well. There are many factors that went into the war and if you are generalizing either side then you're probably ignorant. Or a twat. 'Grats.

More food for thought: It wasn't until roughly the early-middle part of the 20th century that our nation's political map looked the way that it does now; most red states were blue and vice-versa. This was especially true in the South, where basically every state south of the mason-dixon was run by Democrats. I'm not too clear on the causes of this flip; Zinn glossed over it in People's History, which probably means it was inconvenient to his narrative.

@4: I'm going to have to throw up the bullshit flag on that one. If I understand that post correctly, you are saying that you suffered discrimination because you are southern and in the military; the military is QUANTIFIABLY the most trusted institution in this country right now and has been for at least fifteen years. Furthermore, if you suffered any discrimination from being southern, it most definitely was not from the military itself, because the military is laughably pro-South. So, basically, you must have been doing it wrong.

A word on northern hate for the south: They probably wouldn't get hated on so much if the south wasn't represented by a bunch of racist, idiotic and unfaithful politicians.
Posted by DeaconBlues on June 12, 2010 at 3:37 PM · Report this
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@80: "a book that comes from the source" means, "a book that happens to support my opinion." Look, chumley, slavery was the ONLY "right" that the Southern states were pissed about getting "stomped all over", and up until the election of Abraham Lincoln, the Northern states had bent over backwards to let them keep doing it.

Calling Abraham Lincoln a Fascist is profoundly stupid. At no point has it ever been a right of the states to secede from the union. As for slavery being a right, fine, it probably was. I'll give you that. However, I'd like to think that if I knew someone who had a legitimate right to do something as ethically repugnant as enslaving someone against their will, I'd put a stop to it as well.

Finally: way to respond to some angry, unwarranted generalizations with more of the same. Rise again, peanut.
Posted by DeaconBlues on June 12, 2010 at 3:45 PM · Report this
As for participation in the Revolutionary War, actually, as many important battles occurred in the South, Carolinas mostly, as those which are selectively presented in our texts. One of the three generals of the Southern campaign was Robert Howe, a North Carolinian. George Washington was not even involved in a major campaign from 1778-81 while those battles were occurring . (Srce: Page Smith’s A New Age Begins, a two-volume text that is an excellent American education tome. He was a Marylander and studied under the renowned historian Samuel Eliot Morison at Harvard.)

A note about slavery and scapegoating the South: Much of the world in the 17th 18th & 19th centuries and before, was tainted by slavery, including Africans who sold their own people. New York leaders were against the Civil War because there were so many who were profiting from the slave trade. In fact Mayor Fernando Wood proposed that Manhattan become an independent island nation, its cotton trade intact. Because these people have had so much wealth, they have managed to whitewash their ugly involvement while scapegoating Southerners who often were mostly hardworking poor farmers (2/3's of Southerners in South did not own slaves), who could not defend themselves as being less culpable than the rich Northerners.…

Among the slave profiteers who have hidden how they acquired their wealth and power carried into present day: Tiffany, J. P. Morgan, Lehman Brothers, et al, the usual culprits, note J.P.M. & Lehman Bros.' involvement in the recent economic debacle. The leading slave trading family in the U.S. was the DeWolf family (over 50 yrs and 3 generation 1769-1820 of Rhode Island)- DeWolf reported to be the wealthiest man in America upon his death in 1837); another was the Brown family also of Rhode Island. This is a breathtaking revelation of the truth about Northern involvement:…

Re: racism, sexism, etc. In my long life I've seen this throughout America. The more vulnerable we feel, the more we shut down and act ugly, often against our own better angels. We need to find common ground and fight the real enemy, exploiters, and not be exploiters ourselves. The beginning is to work together to conserve so that we can develop our own wealth and independence from the greedy.

There is much to be angry about. There are some very good comments that reveal real history that it appears many are not reading. I add this: Our country was founded on strong influences of the Scottish Enlightenment (origin of the word liberal, so twisted today. Read "How the Scots Invented the Modern World" by Harvard grad, many Southerners from this tradition, but also Northerners.)

A proud Southerner.

Posted by Reverie on June 13, 2010 at 7:28 PM · Report this
@ 83 ok you hold on to that lie tight and maybe it will become true for you, how about the fact that the federal troops invaded certain states to force their will on them and other states seeing the injustice of the invasion, joined with their brothers. I wonder how you would feel if federal troops marched on Washington state, all to take all you possessions’ away so they could redistribute it to someone who they felt deserve it more. Lincoln did what he did to appease the northern abolitionists that voted him into office. When ever A leader Forces his will on the rest of the country through military force is fascism and at the time this was happening slavery was the norm, I know how dare I call your god a facist, to bad someone did not shoot that S.O.B. before he caused all that useless loss of life.
Posted by coolhandluke46 on June 14, 2010 at 1:17 PM · Report this
I think there is only one thing to say to this.

Fuck the extremists, on both sides.
Posted by BlueJ012 on June 18, 2010 at 2:50 PM · Report this
And I bash Southerners here for being so stupid as to be prejudice against Northerners. I thought that only happened in the South down here. I should have known that stupidity has no bounderies. From now now I will never speak again up again (after reading this pile of trash) when one of my fellow Southerners talk trash about the North. And I thought the war was over. What was I thinking?
Posted by LolaMarie on June 18, 2010 at 5:11 PM · Report this
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Fuck 'em. And their cultivated culture of ignorant hypocritical theocracy.…
Posted by Karlheinz Arschbomber on July 7, 2010 at 12:28 AM · Report this
Spoken like a true liberal retard.

""we fucking founded this country"
You didn't do anything, don't take credit for something that was done by others centuries ago. Just like you shouldn't link todays southerner to slavery. This only shows your ignorance, which you seem to have in abundance.

So, take your baby killing, asshole fucking, liberal views and shove them where your boyfriend Bruce likes to lick you.

Posted by A Real American on July 8, 2010 at 5:57 PM · Report this
from a southerner..."fuck the south!" granted the north maybe full of loud mouthed "know-it all-assholes", but they are free loud mouthed "know-it-all-assholes. and one thing the south is not and will never be is free...examples: free-minded, free-spirited, free-willed, free-whatever. i could never in good conscience raise a child in the south to grow up to be a narrow minded bigot afraid of his own shadow(metaphor for individual thought process). the south is a joke and embarrassment to the rest of the country and doesnt know or care to aknowledge it. from the cival war to the bush administration the south has hid behind prehistoric idiosyncrasies that have perpetuated segregation, prejudice(religious, racial, gender, homosexual), and fascism(not just a northern trait) just to give a few examples of the belief system that is the livlihood and breath of the southern elitist and wannabes. theres a jealous traitorist hatefull bloodflow that pumps through the veins of southerners(whites, blacks, mexiacans, asians, everyone really) thats been degrading the priciples for which this country was founded on and will continue to do so until the end of life as we know it. beyond the low cost of living and slightly more livable crime rate the south has nothing more to offer than an inexpesive means to spawn generations of cultural and social intolerance and division. this may seem like nothing more than a simple rant, but there arent any fact or figures that can take the place of life experinces..and i have met alot of people from alot of places..and no matter what those people may have thought of my southern-ass(if they could tell, seeing as i am extremely open-minded, have no southern accent or overtly racist tendicies) those feeling have always been warmer and more accepting than those from my fellow southerners. it quite sad if you care to think about fuck yeah-FUCK THE SOUTH!
Posted by dhall2680 on July 16, 2010 at 12:37 AM · Report this
As a Northerner myself, I'd like to say Virginia was the first state to be founded. In addition, this North vs. South garbage would suggest that the writer is either uninformed, or around the age of 12. Grow up and get some soap for that mouth. Many of us Northern elitists enjoy people for who they are and not because they are from a certain region.
Posted by zancada on August 4, 2010 at 2:46 PM · Report this
Alabama pays more in State tax then Hawaii the previously highest taxed state. Alabama even with a ten percent sales tax has no money for roads or schools.... If you knew anything about the south you would know about the reverse racism that goes on, it's hard to get a job, because of affirmative action. That being said.. I'm a democrat, and just because a state is judged as being a "red state" doesn't mean everyone who lives there is. Mostly the only people who vote in the state are rich and white and old who remember riots and getting beaten during the civil rights movement. As opposed to I, idealistic and poor and white. I'd rather be, idealistic, poor and white and a Southern Democrat, then snobby nose shoved in the air, northern Democrat, who thinks the world rises and sets on Seattle. Because people are so much greener and Eco-friendly. SO much more educated and refined that all they can do is scream at each other on a website.
Posted by dixies_fire on August 10, 2010 at 8:30 AM · Report this
Unh...I almost hate to point this out, but I am a southerner and a left wing liberal. I am not alone. And Aryanzona is out west.
Posted by angelica14.5 on August 12, 2010 at 6:59 PM · Report this
Whoever wrote this clearly has the IQ of pudding, and that is being incredibly generous. Firtly, the man whote wrote the Declaration of Independance, the Constitution, and the leader of the Army were all from Virginia. Not only a Southern state, but a deep Red state. Further, it is the Left who opposes almost all of the Bill of Rights, not the other way around. They clearly hate the 2nd, as the author admits. They also despise the 1st (campaign finance, political corectness.) And how about the 9th and 10th? His whole rant about how he loves the Federal Government and hates the State Governments? That is precisely what this article is about. How about the 5th's protection of property? I'll assume he was okay with Pfizer's theft of property in New London. Finally, he is appearantly of the idiotic stance that divorce rates are the sole measure of values. Only in the mind of someone truly without any intellectual depth (like the author) would think that divorce is a better measure of value than the slaughter of unborn children. For the record, I am from a deep Purple Northern State, and even I can see that this man is an idiot.
Posted by SGTKPF on August 19, 2010 at 9:15 AM · Report this
You, my friend, do not know what you are talking about. Not all of the founding fathers were from the north. As a matter of fact the important ones who did the most important things were from the south. Next, it was people from the south that said something should be done about slavery now. It was delegates from the north that got the whole thing pushed under the rug. Also the north was just as guilty in slavery as the south. And your "wonderful" president (who conducted an illegal war against states who had a right to withdraw from the union) was as much a bigot as anyone else. He said he would keep all negros enslaved if it meant preserving the union. This doesnt even touch on the fact that the so called proclamation freeing slaves freed slaves in the parts of the country he considered to be in rebellion. Well, this was illegal as he had no right to do such a thing. Thats beside the point at this time-the point being is all that proclamation was was an attempt at creating a fifth column. Which did not happen. How about the fact that there were thousands of blacks in the south that stood shoulder to shoulder with whites in defending their homeland from the yankee invader. Try reading real history for a change instead of one hundred and fifty years of yankee tainted history. If you dig deep enough you will find an unbelievable amount of writing from the time. And all of the writing from southern soliders say the same thing-they were going to war to protect their homes from an all powerful federal government. It was no different than when the thirteen colonies gave the king of england the middle finger.

And one more thing-you are a backwards neanderthal. Why dont you try some honest, decent dialog instead of caveman talk filled with nothing but cussing. Did your education not get any further than the pages of the dictionary that spells out cuss words?
Posted by robert e lee on October 15, 2010 at 1:13 PM · Report this
This person is soooooo f'n brave they can't even sign their name? Yeah, that's balls.
Posted by mgp on October 16, 2010 at 12:52 PM · Report this
I hates the South and I'm from the South!
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Posted by debt solutions on November 17, 2010 at 3:30 AM · Report this
Excellent fucked up article that will provide the incentive and basis for my work.I wonder if I can mention the fucked up article as a bibliographic reference in my work. Thanks!
Posted by how to fight on November 17, 2010 at 3:34 AM · Report this
True statements mostly. The South has been a boil on the ass of this country for 200 years. We must remember, however that not every southern person fits this description, many might even agree with the sentiments expressed. In times like these unity is even more important. While I tend to side with the author of the rant, I don't think President Lincoln would have. I once heard a history professor (with a horrible southern accent) go over all this, and he ended with the statement "we are all Americans". I felt a bit ashamed when I thought about it.
Posted by Yes, but... on December 7, 2010 at 8:11 PM · Report this
Thank you for the article. Your statement is true. I have never been more comforted to know how easy they actually are. And always in tune to testing how far they can go. Their best hidden talent is still pressing buttons at the right moments, only.
Posted by Gaga on December 26, 2010 at 5:19 PM · Report this
The North actually didn't found America. The first colony ever was in Virginia. Also, Thomas Jefferson, George Washington, James Madison and Patrick Henry were all southerners - all from Virginia, in fact.
You make a lot of valid points in a funny, borderline offensive article, but you also have a lot of raging overgeneralizations.
Thanks for the laughs, and for the legitimate points you squeezed in, but please recognize that there's a lot to love about the south. I'm a southerner, and the south - with all its flaws and hypocrisies - will always be home to me, and will always be ultimately lovable and beautiful in my eyes. And please, please, please get your history right. Plymouth would probably have happened regardless of Jamestown's existence, but I hate to think where the US would be without the authors of the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution.
Posted by Muriel on December 30, 2010 at 10:14 PM · Report this
Fuck the North! And everybody in it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by Kitten on April 12, 2011 at 12:53 AM · Report this
I think this is an historically correct document, I wish that we could have more scholarship like this and less of say miscreants like Jack Goldstone Ph.D. Political Science. However Goldstone makes you realize that Red States are not just in the south and Blue States are not just Old New England. What an empty fuck, fucking the south might be. Not even a good masturbation. I agree, let the south go and get them the fuck out of Minnesota and Wisconsin, Illnoie and Indisana. We want to return this states to the North.
Posted by Rayjae on April 19, 2011 at 9:00 AM · Report this
I'd like to point out that most of the greatest American writers are Southerners: Mark Twain, Tennessee Williams, Truman Capote, Harper Lee, William Faulkner, Flannery O'Connor, Thomas Wolfe, Richard Wright, Eudora Welty ...

The most oppressive conditions often create the best art.

Posted by Amanda on April 19, 2011 at 2:37 PM · Report this
As a Southern guy, I say thanks for this post. Because I love the fact that we piss you off so much. We don't give a damn what you think about us, nor have we ever, why should I lose sleep that a turd hates me? In that we pissed you off, gives many of us a great deal of joy. I could only hope that we continue in our excellence and bring forth many more acts that piss off douche bags such as yourself. We don't need the north and we already tried to detach from the turd that is the north one time. But shit sticks. My only regret is that there are a few northerners I don't want to insult because not all of them have that "hate south" attitude. To them I apologize beforehand.
Posted by smilinbob on July 21, 2011 at 5:47 AM · Report this
God I hate liberals. 1st we have more work and more work moving in than you
2nd we have less tax than you
3rd we have less regulations than you.... reason why we have business here starting and you have nothing!
I know this b/c part of my family is from NY and all the work and people is leaving b/c of the high tax.... lots of laws and no work.
Dont piss about guns if you've never seen shot or held a gun. you city fucks need to understand some shit before you go off being all liberal. VA NC SC and GA all were in the Revolution so it was not just the North that was in it.... in fact the last or one of the last battles was in Yorktown VA and thats where the Brits got trapped by the US and French forces so ha. the north east and cali need to split from the rest of the country and become their own soviet style country. bitch about the south but we still have more work.. less tax and more freedom than you fuck ups in the north east. the south is booming and your on the way out. fuck the north fuck the liberals.
Posted by garth_85 on December 23, 2011 at 3:28 PM · Report this
416 Ridge Rd Jacksonville, NC that's my address you yankee fucks! Say that shit to my face and I'll shove your head so far up your own ass you'll wish you were never born! James A Alford
Posted by bigjimmy! on January 14, 2012 at 8:41 PM · Report this
It's satire you morons. If you feel that this is serious journalism you are the exact dumbasses that the author is talking about. How stupid are you??? Please, please remove your heads from your asses! I can't take it. You should definitely kill yourself if you can't see this is just written as a humorous piece. And if the word "fuck" overwhelms you, stay off of the Internet. What are we? 12? Losers!!!!
Posted by Andree on February 19, 2012 at 9:10 AM · Report this
Posted by Anonymous Commenter on February 22, 2012 at 12:39 PM · Report this
Really good, very funny, lots of truth. Not all Southerners take the north/south divide so seriously, I think it has a lot to do with Republican politicians pandering to stupid voters. I feel almost like this article should be directed to the MSM and GOP... they're really the force behind the bullshit arguments we hear from the right. The southerners are sold the "east-coast-devils", coasters are fed the "hillbilly cleetus hates women and coloreds" angle.
Posted by floop on February 23, 2012 at 1:04 PM · Report this
To think what would happen if Texas oil and gas were taken from the US and we produced and refined our own oil and gas. I think we could support the south on that alone not to mention all of the AG business . So to conclud my point to say fuck the south is saying the north is fucking them self's . To any and all lady's I do apologize for my use of the f word and do beg halls pardon. Levi a Johnson TEXAS born and rased
Posted by leviajohnson on February 26, 2012 at 1:20 PM · Report this
As a resident of one of the most integrated (and most blue) cities in the country - Memphis - I'll throw my hat into the ring and say "you're welcome". You're welcome for the integrated sounds of Sun Records (Howlin' Wolf, BB King, Ike Turner AND Elvis, et al.). You're welcome for the black and white mix of Stax, where blacks and whites made funkier music than all black Motown. For Big Star. For William Eggleston. For Steve Cohen. For MGMT. For Faulkner. For cities that go majority Black, but don't drive all the white people away. Hey Detroit! What were you so scared of? You should've visited us hicks down here in Memphis and Atlanta and Birmingham where we happily send our kids to public schools and where they live in their grandparents old neighborhood. How'd bussing go Boston? We're sorry our elections tilt a few percentage points right sometimes, but we'll take Clinton and Carter and Johnson and you guys keep Nixon, okay? Plz? Thx.
Posted by Memphis_Boy on March 6, 2012 at 9:08 PM · Report this
I grew up in the deep south and always hated Christians. I burned bibles and was called a Satanist. When I was 18 I left home and moved up to the north east. Having lived in Europe and Asia, I still prefer the New England accent and never leave New England. I am a member of the green party and hate Democrats and Republicans. I personally think the USA should split up, let the South blow up in a fiery ball of radiation, and institute the green party into the central government and provide universal healthcare for all, including dental, chiropractic, and cancer treatment.

And for you Europeans who think the south is cool because of the Blues, I can vouch as a Southerner that I have never once seen a black man play a guitar anywhere in the South. It's like the Indian on a horse bit: you just dont see them riding horses anymore! All cliches.
Posted by michijo on March 23, 2012 at 1:57 PM · Report this
I am from the south and have lived in New England for almost 20 years and would not think of living in the South East, even for a large amount of money. I am white, but I am a volunteer English tutor to African et al immigrants: free English teacher. I believe in communal effort and voluntarism. All this bitterness between the Republicans and Democrats shows a lack of communal effort and gang-style turf-fighting. After all the Democrats were originally a southern party of reactionary Bourbans, and many Democratic candidates like Bill Clinton are ulster-scot style southerners.

Also. if you hate The South as I do, you know to hate also the Europeans and crankee Yankee types who are pro-southern. There are plenty of idiots in the North who have confederate flags and act like rednecks, just like in Europe.

When you say "fuck the south", you really have to buckle down and figure out some alternatives, because the rest of the world thinks southerners are merely clowns that have blues music. You can count on only limited support from Europe or Canada in this venture. Canadians after all often make fun of the Yankee accent rather than the southern one.

That is why I suggest the Green Party and actually giving up on car ownership. I myself don't own a car or rely on oil from the South or the Middle East.
Posted by michijo on March 23, 2012 at 3:22 PM · Report this
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One interesting point to make would be that regardless of what president or party is in office, the president always has Ulster protestant ancestry. Even Obama:…

Many Americans do not have the intelligence to grasp the gravity of this. It means literally that the very freedom of choosing their own president is not clear. Since our president has to have Ulster roots, we are thus not free either way.
Posted by michijo on March 24, 2012 at 5:02 PM · Report this
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John Mccain and Obama both have Ulser-Scots ancestry. What is there to argue about. You could have just elected both of them to continue Bushes war and institute the Queen's Parliament. We could all have cushy jobs working for British Petroleum!
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Ahem. "ocra", when properly spelled is okra.
Posted by Texas10R on March 26, 2012 at 3:56 PM · Report this
I grew up in Albany NY. I spent 10 years in the south building the cable TV systems in Texas, North Carolina, South Carolina, Oklahoma,Virginia. I didn't have any preconceptions when I first went to Texas. However, Texans quickly informed me of thier superiority.
I can't count the number of times I was told "we don't like Yankees 'round here", by total strangers in diners. In every case it was one guy with 3 or 4 guys to back him up...they are that brave in Texas.
I found southerners, and particularly Texans to be arrogant, rude, arrogant, stupid, arrogant, crude, arrogant, dishonest, very, very holy in what they say they believe, not so much in their behavior, and ....did I say arrogant?
Fuck all of them.
Posted by JohnDevine on April 22, 2012 at 1:03 PM · Report this
As a person living in the South from the Midwest, I too have many time had the thought.... "Fuck the South" and still do from time to time. With a bigoted amendment one going on the ballot it is hard to "love thy neighbor" so to speak. That being said there are good people here like everywhere around this country. Unfortunately, those in power are giving a popular vote on a amendment based in discrimination. My disgust is with the elected officials for allowing this to be on the ballot... and I must admit on the people who are so scared of Jesus or what their preacher says. It is frustrating.... However one must remember that moving away from people or a place means that those people win. I for one am staying in this nice place and trying to change the SOMETIMES ignorant people... They hate that by the way... Yankees coming down here and telling them whats right. By the way everyone from anywhere that is not the South is a Yankee! Gotta love it!
Posted by strangerb74 on April 30, 2012 at 3:37 PM · Report this
Well, for starters, perhaps you should consider A) going to anger management classes and B) not using so many profanities. I would be spitting angry at you, if I didn't feel you were such an uneducated person who used profanities so often to make up for the lack of a good vocabulary. Secondly, it isn't a matter of arrogance for the South, rather pride. As for you, I'd venture to say it's arrogance. Also, don't you think you're being just a bit of a hypocrite talking about arrogance, then listing the many things that the Northern states pay for,do, accomplish, etc. over the Southern states? I certainly do. As for lower rates of divorce with gay marriages, God doesn't believe in divorce, I'll give you that, but it also states in the Bible that those who are in same-sex relationships without repenting will go to hell because it's a sin. You can't be luke-warm with christianity. It's either hot or cold. Gay marriages are in the cold. Personally, I'd rather be divorced a thousand times over, repent, and not go to hell than be married to a women and go to hell. On the topic of God and christianity, bringing that up and insulting christians is what you could call a blow below the belt. There is no need to bring religion in to a topic strictly on Northern and Southern states. Judging by your vocabulary and beliefs in gay marriages, you aren't too busy with morality to brag about it. And as for Southerners sinning, yeah, that's true. Notherners sin all the time too though. Every swear word you wrote in that ignorant rant was a sin. Your belief in the allowance of gay marriages is a sin.I was born in the North, raised in the South and I'm not biased either way. However if you are a taste of the North, no wander Southerners seem so self-righteous. I would be proud to be from anywhere but the North with people like you representing it.
Posted by Allie94 on June 1, 2012 at 8:34 AM · Report this
To all my Southern Brothers and Sisters, don't lower yourself to the level of these scalawags. We are and have always been an honorable and decent people. We are Southerners. Our culture and beliefs are what define us and as such set us apart from these... others. Be proud of your past, be proud of what it means to be a Southron. (yes, Southron) Draw strength that we are united as a people. We are black, white, red, yellow under the banner called Southron.
Posted by R. Lee on June 29, 2012 at 9:30 AM · Report this
To writer # 60. Sir, I congratulate you on your restraint in responding to these scalawags. Surely you are the more honorable man and this yet is indicative of what a Southron is. I find it dismaying that we are truly a nation divided not only by region, religion and culture, but of the essence of being a true American. I fear we draw ever closer to a day when Southron values and beliefs shall be tested once again beyond this playground and that mens blood will spent. I pray that this is not to be, but dark clouds are in the horizon and I feel a cold wind coming.
Posted by R.Lee on July 2, 2012 at 3:27 PM · Report this
total truth about the south.....inbred, racist, and stupid...that about sums it up...lazy dude...isn't the south where all the white men are mad at all the black men for sitting around and being so lazy when all they do is sit around and act lazy too? I lived in the North and compared t the south, not even close. Sorry. This article is the truth.
Posted by L'ilgangsta40blunt on November 8, 2012 at 5:29 PM · Report this
If we want to start talking about shit holes let's start with Newark New Jersey
Posted by luciecoyote on November 18, 2012 at 1:09 PM · Report this
Only need to read the first sentence to realize you have absolutely no idea what your talking about. The Civil War was not as simple as you make it seem. It was about a government telling us what to do. Surprisingly enough the majority (North) almost lost the war to South. We went into it knowing we would lose, but the point of it was we had the balls to stand up for what we believed in, we didn't need someone to hold our hand and tell us what was what. You pussyfied yank inbred fucks don't even have the balls to put your own name on your post. I'm Sean Hatfield and I am glad to let everyone know how I feel about it
Posted by hatfieldsean on January 1, 2013 at 1:25 AM · Report this

Can you hear me now???

What a complete a@#hole...But exactly what I expect out of a Mass. Liberal uneducated "elite" voter....I forget, was this written before or after OWS?
Posted by Aaron Investigates on February 3, 2013 at 9:51 PM · Report this
Fuck you! It was more than that you god damn fucking piece of shit Yankee! Grow a set and step foot in the south and say that and see what happens to your dumb ass. Stomped I promise ya that
Posted by sonofthetruesouth on February 5, 2013 at 6:34 PM · Report this
NO to secession of South Carolina, North Carolina, Georgia etc.! Don't let the go, but invade them and change their ways by bringing in huge amounts of immigrants. Wrong mentality in the damn South = trouble. I'm a newcomer and a foreigner here. It's hard to find anyone do the job for you, let alone do it right. Mostly con artists and lazy people playing games with you, ignoring new customers at their own business' peril. So damn ignorant. They will ask you "where are you from?" just a sign that they won't sell nor do any services to you. After the 9/11 scam (Inside Job) it became even worse. Now I am not only a Newcomer plus a Foreigner, but also a Terrorist Suspect, a Serial Killer, a Pedophile Suspect, a Drug Dealer, A Spy, you name it, they have got it for you! And I am from Northern Europe! I've been accused and asked of all of the above, a numerous times over the years and grew so TIRED of that! I don't take these locals SERIOUSLY ANYMORE! A bunch of retarded stupid idiot rednecks and not just rednecks but a bunch of stupid extremely dumb yanks as well! And a LOT of religious maniacs.
Posted by Newcomer Foreigner on February 12, 2013 at 9:34 AM · Report this
There is a lack of the feel of intelligence in the South. You know, the feel you get when you go to or live at places where there are a lot of sophisticated (not rich!) and intelligent people, such as writers, scientists, professors etc. In the South, that's missing.
Posted by Newcomer Foreigner on February 12, 2013 at 9:42 AM · Report this
I never knew how racist and horrible my fellow countrymen were until Obama was elected. They are an embarrassment to this nation. If it were my way, all foxbots and Limbaugh listeners would be stripped of their citizenship and dragged through the streets while everyone else points and laughs.
Posted by GOP can suck mah balls! on February 15, 2013 at 1:06 AM · Report this
Hmmmm, you think you could use big boy words next time you have aq gripe? It is hard to take anyone seriously who sounds like a middle school boy trying to impress the girls.
Posted by East Tenn. fought on the side of the North on February 24, 2013 at 1:45 PM · Report this
This is very childish, why do us Americans have to constantly beef which each other & cause animosity. Our only chance of getting our republic back into the hands and oversight of the people is to be united as one against tyranny & corruption. There is no other place I would rather live on earth than the great USA. Don't matter what state. Remember divide and conquer is how the all seeing eye (more than one set for sure) secures their victory. It's like Chess, setting us all up for checkmate... Lets not hang ourselves & have our children forced into Orwell "1984" lifestyles. Think how good it would of been for the morale & anti racial sentiment of us all if Kennedy & Martin Luther would have been pres & vice pres. It would of had great affects on positive grow of our country. But no, some asshole had to say lets keep em divided they are easier to control that way. Then both of our good ol boys end up taking dirt naps. Fucking b.s. They where both good ol boys, with good hearts. Someone got really worried about the positive impacts & green lighted them. Now we have shit tons of racism and murder right here at home which helps to escalate us all into living in a POLICE state. O fkn boy, that sounds really awesome... Two choices, refresh the tree of liberty with blood, or get cornhole'd bye Robocop as you watch your kids get clubbed like baby Seals in the Arctic. Fuck that! I'm letting the Lapua's & BMG's bark. Slavery is not an option. I'm neither a Demo or Repub. I reside in the Rugged Mountains of North West Montana and wouldn't hesitate to help a brother/sister of the south, east or west out in times of despair. God Bless you all.
Posted by TT408 on March 3, 2013 at 5:34 AM · Report this
What an ignoramus. The Northeast "founded" America? As. If. Virginia was the first colony - the Jamestown settlers preceded the Pilgrims by more than a decade. Virginians led the way in most of the ways that mattered, from conceiving of a new country to fighting for it and then governing it. The writer of this rant shows what an ass he is without anyone else having to do anything.
Posted by KWS on May 1, 2013 at 10:15 AM · Report this
That's why I'll never move to New York or any other Northeastern state, because of that kind of shitty attitude! I knew there was a lot of prejudice against southerners! I went looking for it on the internet and found it in 10 minutes flat! Do you know why the South is so windy?! Because the North blows! Ha ha! I'm a proud Texan who, if I ever move, will only go as far as Tennessee! That's as far North as I ever in this lifetime want to go!You, asshole, can take the Northeast and shove where the sun don't shine! And I hope it really hurts!
Posted by Brittany Thomas on May 9, 2013 at 1:27 AM · Report this
If i find you, i will kill you.
Posted by anonymous010112 on May 15, 2013 at 9:18 AM · Report this
Lol ... I love this comment, it is so true.
Posted by on July 28, 2013 at 9:58 AM · Report this
Howsabout Nueve Yorico holds hands with el-Lay and jumps into the ocean? Get rid of the whole libtarded mess, let the rest of us out in flyover country get on with real-life.
Posted by Sieg on August 3, 2013 at 4:45 PM · Report this
Posted by seaglass101 on August 9, 2013 at 8:51 AM · Report this
Total ignorant BS.
Posted by KyPatriot on August 9, 2013 at 10:20 AM · Report this
North Vs South???

Sure the Govt. bankrolled the electrification of the South using the TVA, but it wasn't as if the US as a whole didn't benefit.  Conservatives decry "Socialism" in Govt. expenditures (like the TVA), but doing so ended up playing a crucial role in winning WWII: TVA provided the power to create all that aluminum needed for our aircraft, and for purifying uranium to make nuclear weapons. The sad thing is how some of our populace wants to believe they'd somehow be better off outside the whole.  

I love my state (MA), and New England, just like residents of other states feel about their homes.  The gay couples in our state have no bearing on my marriage, outside of some being our friends and neighbors.  We get divorced less because we tend to do it (get married) when we mean it, not just for sex.  OTOH our teen pregnancy rate is amongst the lowest, and by region the lowest, so maybe education and prevention are what are required to truly defend the institution of marriage (from problem marriages caused by unplanned pregnancies).  But of course the education thing is a social policy...

So many of our problems are self inflicted, but the concept of "divide and conquer" has worked since humans have existed.  Too bad the people who want to rape our shared resources, and create special interest controllers, don't read our currency; you know the "e pluribus unum" thing.

Posted by Married in MA on August 13, 2013 at 7:52 AM · Report this
Though I agree with what was said, I do think it's a little harsh. I sell books on Amazon and requested to have an option to block certain states from buying from me (especially Georgia); they're always a pain in the a** and think their $5 makes them a valuable customer. They try to have proper grammar and speak with big words but it's obvious their minds don't work well with logic (if at all). This one woman complained that they felt taken advantage of because I charged them more for a book what I originally paid. I was like "Yeah, it's called capitalism... That's how businesses make money?" The woman felt like I robbed her and the concept of business didn't make sense to her. When southern states buy books from me, I'd deliberately cancel the order and go back to up the price - lol that's how I avoid them and their BS. I don't even know why they bother buying books because it clearly isn't doing anything for them. No amount of reading will save these people. Most are probably brain damaged by incest.
Posted by 007Me on September 29, 2013 at 3:14 AM · Report this
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Posted by uy_bag on December 5, 2013 at 5:00 AM · Report this
Not everyone from the south is a self-righteous-Christian gay-bashing racist. In fact, most of the people who I grew up with in Nashville are typically agnostic or atheist with mixed beliefs from both liberal and conservative ideals. None of us, however, make our points by blaming any particular set of people making us seem like, yes, arrogant self-involved egotistical pricks. You do make valid and accurate points, but I did have to sift through your rant and omit the unnecessary, albeit hilarious, overuse of "fuck", however you come off as stubborn and unwilling to compromise as the people you like to criticize.

Side note: Let's do a quick hypothetical. If your type of mindset becomes more than just a way of thinking in the North, and the U.S. did happen to segregate - blues vs. reds - I hate to break it to you buddy, but uh, blues would be crushed. Simple use of logic, who would win it a fight? Heavy gun controlled states, or states that actually practice the 2nd amendment? I, for example, have three Assault Rifles, two Shotguns, four Pistols, and two Sniper Rifles with a few hundred rounds of ammunition for each. Why? Because I can. And I'm just one person who is actually not a toothless, ignorant redneck. Imagine what those guys have?

Just something to think about if something like this does escalate in the future. Thought experiments are fun.
Posted by Rigma on July 18, 2014 at 7:45 AM · Report this

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