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Saddlebacked!
January 29, 2009
Please settle a difference of opinion that stumped our small group at the coffee shop: Why do guys wear socks on their feet in porn? I say it's a tradition. My friends claim it is a foot-fetish thing. My credibility rides on this.
Socked In Denver
Socks in porn a tradition? Sorry, SID, but no. Socks on feet in porn—as opposed to socks on cocks?—are like zits on butts in porn or track marks on arms in porn. They're incidental, not traditional. And unless someone licks socked feet or the socks are removed and used as gags, they're not a "foot-fetish thing." So neither you nor your friends have any credibility on porn attire, SID.
I was recently on an airplane seated next to a man talking on his cell phone. The man stated that he was "excited to use [his] new strap-on tonight!" It made me wonder why and how a guy would use a strap-on. Wouldn't he just use his own penis? When I glanced over, he told his caller he had to go as he was getting the "stink-eye." I wasn't disgusted, just curious because he acted like this was a normal toy for guys, not to mention an appropriate conversation to have on an airplane. My gay friends were stumped. Can you could solve this mystery?
Stink-Eye In 12E
The most obvious answer: The strap-on was a late Christmas gift presented to him to be used on him, not by him. A slightly less- obvious answer: Some small-dicked men—ones who are not at all insecure—use strap-ons on partners who miss that "filled-up" feeling. The least obvious answer: The man on the airplane was a female-to-male transsexual who, like a lot of forward-thinking FTMs, declined to get an expensive phalloplasty during his transition and the pretty-much-nonfunctional penis a phalloplasty "endows" an FTM with. Instead, he invested in a high-quality, looks-like-a-prick, feels-like-a-sneaker strap-on.
If your gay friends couldn't come up with any of these answers, SEI12E, you need smarter, more insightful, more credible gay friends.
Longtime reader, first-time writer. In last week's column, there was a letter from JON, a just-out gay kid who is not ready for anal sex. Please excuse a question from a naive but well-meaning/curious straight guy... but what other kinds of gay sex are there? Just hands-on and oral, kind of like what us hetero folks do? Or are there other things that would blow my mind?
Dumb-Ass White Guy
You mean heteros haven't heard of ear-holin' and nose-bangin' and piss-slittin' and ann- coulterin'? You gotta get out more, DAWG.
Actually, there are no mysterious gay sex acts, nothing that we can do that you can't do better. And there are things we can't do at all. We can call it "boypussy" and "mangina" all we want, but two gay men aren't going to do vaginal intercourse as well as a hetero couple, and lesbians who want to snowball have to resort to cream-cheese frosting cut with a little skim milk. The only pronounced difference between gay and straight sex—besides the hotness—is that most gay folks regard "hands-on" and oral as "real sex," not as disappointing consolation prizes we're handed when "real" sex, i.e., fucking, isn't in the offing.
Straight people—particularly straight men—would do well to emulate queers in this regard. The more things you consider "real" sex, the more sex you'll be having.
Dan, your advice to LIMP—the man who was reluctant to use a vibrator on/with his wife—was right on! I'm a 34-year-old woman who needs a vibrator to get off, and for years I felt "defective." My husband didn't exactly help, but he eventually asked me to show him how I did it. He wanted to try. Bingo—the look on my face was all he needed; he was a convert.
One of his issues with the vibrator, though, was the phallic shape; he felt like it was replacing him. Many men don't like vibrators for that reason. It's bigger, harder, and lasts longer—that can intimidate a guy. But you can buy tiny vibrators that are just a couple of inches long, egg-shaped ones, and butterfly-shaped ones. LIMP should visit his local adult-toy shop with his wife and pick out a silly one that doesn't compete.
Bottom line: She has been brave enough to share her needs with you. Would you prefer it if she faked it for your entire marriage and quietly took care of herself in private?
Nothing Beats A Good Buzz
Thanks for sharing, NBAGB.
SADDLEBACKING DEFINED: The votes are in, the people have spoken, the democratic idea is renewed. But first: Anyone who picks up the January 24 issue of the Economist—I pick it up every week for the "Page 3 Boy"—will find this lead paragraph to a story about Barack Obama's inauguration:
Any decision Barack Obama makes can cause a stir. He invited Rick Warren, a popular pastor, to say a few words at his inauguration. The aim was to stroke conservative Christians, thereby fostering a warm feeling of national unity. But some of Mr. Obama's gay supporters were appalled. Though hardly a fire-breather by the standards of Southern Baptists, Mr. Warren holds old-fashioned views about homosexuality. Bloggers lamented Mr. Obama's "betrayal." Dan Savage, a gay columnist, urged his readers to protest by coining a new meaning for "Saddleback"—the name of Mr. Warren's church. Many of the suggestions were unprintable.
Many of them were unprintable? Not true, Economites. I printed all of them right here in this space. So it's not that the suggestions themselves were unprintable, it's that you poofs just don't have the balls to print them. That's very different.
And now... without further delay... the winning definition of "saddleback"... by a gaping margin... definition number 5: "Saddlebacking: the phenomenon of Christian teens engaging in unprotected anal sex in order to preserve their virginities." After attending the Purity Ball, Heather and Bill saddlebacked all night because she's saving herself for marriage.
Here's why this definition is perfect: Saddlebacking, like barebacking, involves one person riding up on another's backside. But in this case, it's not the bare-naked cock-in-ass that's the most important feature of the ride, but the fact that the person being ridden has been saddled—thanks to the efforts of the Rick Warrens of this world—with religious hang-ups and serious misconceptions about sex. Like the barebacker who casually tosses away his health—or his partner's health—because he believes, quite erroneously, that "risky = sexy," the saddlebacker offers up her ass because she believes, quite erroneously, that she can get fucked in the ass—vigorously, religiously—and still be considered a virgin on her wedding night.
I've set up a
website—www.saddlebacking.com—to popularize the new
definition. (Get to work, Google bombers!) Now let's get this term into
common usage as quickly as possible. ![]()
As much fun as they may be, they aren't going to comfort you when you have a shitty day at work, they aren't going to surprise you with a trip to your favorite restaurant, they aren't going to tell that you are sexy when you wake up in flannel pajamas with a bird's nest in your hair.
Beyond that, the sexual experience itself isn't the same. You can't scratch a vibrator's back or bite its neck or grab on to its hair. If you call it a dirty slut in the heat of passion, it won't respond. A vibrator can't give you a good open-hand slap on the ass.
I've never had the desire to cuddle with my vibrator after sex. Conversely, I've never had the desire to shove my partner in a drawer after sex. There really is no comparison.
My first girlfriend was a Southern Baptist who wouldn't have vaginal sex but gave great blow jobs and liked to saddleback.
While she eventually lost religion and gave up her objection to traditional penis-vaginal sex. But for a year I had a helluva fun time saddlebacking!
The PHENOMENON of Christian teens having anal sex to preserve their virginity is a noun.
The ACT of having anal sex to preserve one's virginity, presumably out of adherence to Christian morals or pledges, is the verb.
The definition you have up on saddleback.com needs to be expanded. (I also love that you have a website with just the definition... it's a thing of beauty that I've already linked on my facebook.)
I sent this letter to Betty Bouwer back on 15 June 2004. It relates to saddlebacking.
Piet de Best, from Amsterdam, The Netherlands writes:
I know that anal sex can be a way for good Christian girls to have their fun and still retain their virginity (at least technically). But what advice do you have for a young gay boy who wants to keep his virginity but still doesn't want to lose his boyfriend because he won't "go all the way"?
Thank-you in advance for a Christian answer!
Betty's Reply:
Anyone who engages in anal sex is going all the way. All the way to Hell.
It was a wise-ass question, and I got a wise-ass answer.
Piet
When we see saddleback porn. That's when it will stick in the public subconscious.
By the way, LOVE the definition of saddlebacking--perfect!
Yes a vibrator is a great comfort but Mizz Blau is right, fucking a human is so much better than fucking a piece of vibrating plastic, and even better than that is to have the human and the vibrating plastic. If you want to stuff your partner in a drawer when you're done, you're fucking the wrong kinds of people.
That, or he's the guy from a few weeks ago who intends to wear it on his nose....
Just one suggestion: could you fix the spacing between the last and next-to-last lines? Needs to be shrunk a bit...
Your eternal fan and layout fascist here in Nara...
Vote up the new definition and vote down the one that is simply wrong.
just checking. i mean, fair's fair!
That crazy-think infects boys too, y'know.
I do have have an opportunity to mention the santorum on occasion.
I agree with the above comment that saddlebacking.com could benefit from elaboration. Specifically the part about being "saddled ... with religious hang-ups and serious misconceptions about sex". To me, this is what makes a simply funny definition profound.
Seeing a pair of socks on a guy while he screws some willing body really does it for me. It's that little bit of something hidden... especially ankle socks.
Maybe it's not intentionally done as a foot fetish thing, but it does it for this rather mild foot fetishist.
"The experiments also revealed a rather surprising effect: both men and women found it easier to have an orgasm when they kept their socks on. Draughts in the scanning room left couples complaining of "literally cold feet", and providing a pair of socks allowed 80 per cent rather than 50 per cent to reach a climax while their brains were scanned."
I think about this now whenever I see some guy in a porno wearing socks.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saddleback
"I had a thought about the guy with the strap-on. I haven't attempted this, but it occurs to me he might be intending to double-penetrate a female partner. I don't know if, physically, that would actually work."
It works.
As Matt saddlebacked her, Kelsey admired her purity ring and thanked God that she had an understanding boyfriend who was willing to wait for their wedding day.
I do feel a little sorry for Saddleback College and Saddleback Maine (and really anyone in the Saddleback Mountain range).
Regarding men watching porn during sex, I personally wouldn't have a problem with it occasionally, but it's a different thing. Asking your partner to use a sex toy ON YOU to get you off is quite a bit different than telling your sex partner you want to use them as a sperm toilet while you focus on and pay attention to someone else(s) entirely.
A more appropriate analogy would be a guy who asks his partner to use a masturbatory aid on him, or dildo for the prostate stimulation, because that's how HE gets off.
The reason that people wear socks on their feet in porn is that the soundstage that porn is filmed on is made of black stuff that rubs off on feet easily. My friends who have been in the biz always roll their eyes at seeing "porn star feet" - a girl is on her back, she's perfectly made up, but the soles of her feet are black. This means that she was walking around on set, outside the dressing room, in bare feet (instead of in the flip-flops the girls are supposed to use). It's a mark of an amateurish production or performer. Guys wear socks for the same reason, and occasionally they forget to take them off, that's all.
Also, personal aside... my husband has had the same qualms about vibrators. He's over it now. Apparently, when I orgasm with my vibrator, I clench his cock hella harder than when I orgasm without. Handy, that.
"But in this case, it's not the bare-naked cock-in-ass that's the most important feature of the ride, but the fact that the person being ridden has been saddled—thanks to the efforts of the Rick Warrens of this world—with religious hang-ups and serious misconceptions about sex."
In fact, the best definition I have ever heard for religious indoctrination that says it all is "mind fuck."
I would be overjoyed if saddlebacking was expanded, not just with the context for the original definition, but with a secondary definition that describes the intellectual raping, "the mind fuck," that religious indoctrination represents.
It would expand the use of the word, and produce a definition for the indoctrination that made possible such perversity in the first place, as well as continue with the sexual nature of the original definition.
I must say, the grammar police have gone and dumped me by the roadside, in that I had to examine the definition on saddlebacking.com to figure out the noun/gerund issue, and then when "conjunction citation" was brought up later in jest, not knowing what a conjunction is almost led me to weep on the spot...
I can't handle this!!!
In any case, saddlebacking.com wasn't on the top 5 pages of either search. Thought plenty of other Dan references on the "saddlebacking" search.
I know you are going after Saddleback church and all which is why you chose "Christian" but women do this all over the world. This definition needs expanding!
Otherwise GREAT WORD! I'm going to go saddleback a chick right now.
@mw: sorry, but there's a major difference. A woman who can't get off without a vibrator pressed against her clitoris has a physical problem (easily solved with the application of the proper tools). A man who can't get off without porn has a psychological problem.
Please note: I'm not saying that watching porn is inherently a problem, just that not being able to get off without it is.
And, just as couples should try to find toys that they're both comfortable with, I think that couples should also try to find porn that they're both comfortable with.
It is probably the most influential news magazine published in the English language. NOT the most widely read, but the most influential among people who actually make decisions. Political decisions. Economic decisions. Business decisions. It liberal in the old meaning of that word. It has supported legalization of drugs and gay rights for decades, while at the same time being fiscally conservative. Its average reader earns well over 6 figures a year and is rumored to have been required reading in the State Department for the past four decades -- no matter what party was in the White House. It puts rags like Newsweek and Time to shame.
The Economist is a trend setter. Not in fashion and art, in politics and business. By the time you read it in USA Today it is yesterdays news. The fact that you are reading it in the Economist means that it is about to be news everywhere else.
The folks that write the Economist think themselves too clever by half. The backhanded way the mention Dan and his campaign to name "Saddlebacking" is in fact their highest compliment. They KNOW that their readers are now going to go search the internet and try and find what those "unprintable" definition are, and in fact will be more curious not less by the description they give them. The Economist was very amused or they would not have mentioned it. Kudos to Dan.
The gesture is very educational too; the awareness just might save a few lives in the bargain...(inferior religious freak lives, sure, but lives, all the same...)
But, Dan, please amend the term's classification: (as others have pointed out) "saddlebacking" is a noun (a verbal noun or gerund), not a verb. "[To] saddleback" is the verb form.
I agree that "saddleback" should be added to the web page in order that web searches for the church make their way to www.saddlebacking.com instead (or in addition to).
Way to go!
P.S. Perhaps the man on the plane wasn't even referring to a strap-on dildo? I mean, how does the writer know he was referring to a sex toy (and in public, no less)? I recently purchased a strap-on heating pad for my back, and I'm pretty sure I said aloud more than once, "I can't wait until the strap-on arrives [in the mail]." Just a thought.
No normal person would expect to cover some graphically intimate subject in a phone conversation while shoulder to shoulder with a total stranger, and not expect to discomfort/startle them.
I tried Googling strap-on and found strap-on tree steps & tree stands for hunters, strap-on crampons for mountain climbers, strap-on tackle boxes for fishing, strap-on doppler flow meters (used in industry, to measure liquid inside a pipe), strap-on bike racks, strap-on control systems for robotic vehicles (which could be pretty exciting), a band named Strap-On Tools, and a strap-on musical keyboard (again, might be exciting for the musician who's been wanting to try such a thing!)
I can't say I ever noticed the porn socks. But while there *may* be a funnier bedroom sight than a man naked except for his socks, I can't think of one at the moment. If a woman can get through the scene without laughing her ass off, more power to her.
This opens a whole new area for porn for sports-nuts. Can't wait for the NFL endorsements.
After the Inauguration I was asked, "Hey Rick Warren - after leading the nation in prayer, what are you going to do now?" "I'M GOING TO SADDLEBACK!" I shouted.
I'll see you this weekend.
http://www.saddlebackfamily.com/blogs/ne…
tehe
You know, sites like:
http://truelovewaits.com/
http://silverringthing.com/
www.purityrings.com
www.abstinenceproducts.com
technicalvirgin.com (currently inoperative, best damn site I ever saw)
and any others, especially all the reports about how teens don't keep their purity pledges. Those, you get when you Google "purity pledge".
I just Googled "getting your site on Google" to learn more.
Help me out here, computer nerds.
Googling "saddlebacking" returned 10,000 hits as of 13:00 EST on 29 Jan 2009...
You should change the verb tense to be "to saddleback" That way it will ultimately rise to the top of the google search results for those looking for the church.
Basically the same effect that Santorum had.
'Saddleback a comfy fit for McCain'.
What more is there to say?
I had a roommate that was a mormon in college, she was always confessing to her bishop about the shit she did, the "raciest" of all was licking her BF's spine...
Saddleback, I am going to blog about it.
http://www.parks.ca.gov/?page_id=618
I was living in a college town, and was told that plenty of hanky-panky goes on, but that if it goes past 3rd base, that it ends up as saddlebacking.
So I think "Christian" should be replaced with "Christian or Muslim" or maybe just "religious."
I think http://truelovewaits.com/ should be informed of its twin site http://saddlebacking.com/, at truelovewaits@lifeway.com. They can learn from us, who know what their teens are doing!
(Which used to be so beautifully detailed in http://technicalvirgin.com/, until this informative site went down.)
I think http://www.abstinenceproducts.com/ should have some marketing people offer to sell them wholesale T-shirts. A T-shirt with a slogan such as "TEENS SADDLEBCKING FOR PURITY!" or "ATTEND THE SADDLEBACK BALL" would be a product true to their customers' tastes.
Let's keep it going, guys!! :D
Plus how many Christian terms truly engage in anal sex to protect the hymens (as opposed to it just being enjoyable?)
1)much lower risk of pregnancy with vaginal penetration
2)ability to penetrate a partner even if he can't achieve an erection (or, if he, say, can't achieve an erection sufficiently firm to do anal penetration.)
3)ability to keep going and going and going and going. Or ability to have "round two", even if his penis won't comply!
4)a different size or shape dildo from the size or shape of his penis-- it's not just small guys, Dan! Maybe he's got a huge penis and she likes 'em on the smaller side. Or likes a longer skinnier one for anal penetration.
5) DP, as has been mentioned
6)Chastity play, ditto above
7) Tease and Denial or Humiliation play. Maybe he hasn't "earned" the right to be inside her yet!
The options are endless-- and often pretty darned hot!
We Suggested Several Uses For The Word.
Thank You.
Santorum Is Also My New Favorite!
http://www.jesusandmo.net/2009/01/30/equ…
For example,
Saddleback
If a billion people do the above, when someone Googles Saddleback they will get the dirty meaning. Members of the Saddleback church aren't going to Google Saddlebacking....
There are times I've used the back door when the front door was "out of service" for some other reason. I'd like to call that saddlebacking. Can I? Of course I would never saddleback bareback...
All this talk about vibrators got me curious. I've used mine exclusively along up until now, and decided to bring it up with my boyfriend after reading all the comments. He was hesitant but game. The orgasm, with him thrusting, was mind blowing... Yes I'm doing that again!
I'm a little clueless, but I think using all the words Saddlebacking, Saddleback, and Saddlebacked like this, does the trick, I think.
Amen to that! And if they thought that was bawdy, they should keep an eye on your column more often.
Be warned, though, it's one of those friends who's a mean drunk and frequently embarrasses you with his overgrown-frat-boy attitude.
Why people would want to confine themselves to one style of sex, and the most disease and (if you're het) pregnancy prone sort at that, is beyond me.
Santorum is a term that can be used in various conversations. But oh well, it was funny while it lasted.
Love you, hate this term. I live in the Saddleback Valley, as do many open minded people. I don't appreciate being stereotyped in this way. Please consider how you are "saddling" people who just happen to live in the vicinity of Rick Warren's megachurch.
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