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October 30, 2008
My boyfriend recently moved in with me—the first straight guy I've ever shared an apartment with. I'm very clean and take great pride in my apartment. However, since he moved in, I've tried to be mindful of the fact that there will be certain things I'll need to adjust to. Still, I think it's important to clean up after oneself, so when I found an empty liter-sized Sprite bottle among half-unpacked boxes, I figured I'd leave it there and let him pick it up along with his other trash in our bedroom. The surprise came a couple of days later when I noticed that the liter bottle was not only still in our room, it was full. Was it a new bottle of Sprite? Why wasn't it in the fridge? I opened the bottle and caught a whiff not of Sprite, but of piss.
WTF?
I'm a heavy sleeper, so I guess I don't hear him pee into a plastic liter bottle in the middle of the night. I've already mentioned not leaving dirty dishes around, making sure to use coasters, etc., and I'm beginning to feel like a nag. But isn't this crossing the line?!
Pretty Insulted Seeking Solution
It doesn't cross any lines of mine, PISS, but it clearly crosses a line of yours.
And you know what else probably crosses a line for you? Peeing in the tub—and I can guarantee you, PISS, that any man too lazy to walk to the toilet in the middle of the night is, without a doubt, too lazy to get out of the tub if he realizes he needs to piss after he's stepped into the shower.
Just sayin'.
So what do you do? Well, you cut him a deal. You promise to stop nagging about the little things—dirty dishes here and there, inconsistent use of coasters—in exchange for his solemn promise not to piss in bottles or bathtubs. If your boyfriend is smart, he'll take the deal and stop pissing in bottles and bath—well, he'll stop pissing in bottles anyway, since it'll be easy for you to bust him on that. Pissing in the shower, on the other hand....
Is there a word for the act of filling a woman's vaginal canal (appropriately lubed, of course) with latex, waiting until it hardens, pulling it out, strapping it on, and then fucking someone up the ass with it? If not, I would like to propose "channeling." My girlfriend prefers "verting," but whatever you call it, it sounds like fun. I know there's a host of kits supporting the penile "plaster caster" hobbyist, but I haven't seen the feminine equivalent advertised anywhere.
Congenital Invert
You're free to spend your free time dreaming up wild and crazy hypothetical sex acts and scenarios, CI, and christening them, if that floats your boat. But the world will little note, nor long remember, the names you come up with for your long list of impossible and/or improbable sex acts. For a term to stick—pegging, GGG, santorum—it has to describe or define an act, an attitude, or a substance that is regularly engaged in, assumed, or wiped up by a critical mass of sexually active people. And there just aren't enough willing women or interested men out there, CI, to bring a term for vaginal-canal-as-dildo-mold into popular use.
But in case I'm wrong: I don't think "channeling" or "verting" quite captures it. If vaginal-cast dildos catch on, CI, I believe the act should be known as a "Rachel Whitereading."
I am a 20-year-old straight female dating the boy of my dreams. The only problem is that the sex is awful! His dick doesn't get hard half of the time, he doesn't like blowjobs, and he never seems to enjoy anything I do to him. The only thing he doesn't have a problem with is penetrating me from behind, or "doggy-style." I've asked him once or twice if he might like men, but he never gives me a straight answer and I can't shake the feeling that he might be gay. He says that he never has a problem coming or getting hard when he is masturbating. I am his first relationship. Could he be gay or is he just insecure?
Real Confused
When I was a 20-year-old gay male, RC, the "boy of my dreams" was a lot of things—soft and pink as a nursery, for starters—but insecure, inept, and incommunicative? Those weren't the traits I dreamed about, RC, and they're traits that should disqualify a guy from boy-of-dreams status.
As to the matter of his sexuality, RC, there's no way for me to know for sure if your boyfriend's a fag, short of fucking his ass. (And even then I couldn't tell you for sure—I mean, what if he cried the whole time?) But a guy enjoying doggy-style sex with girls is no more evidence of latent homosexuality than a gay man's preference for face-to-face anal is evidence of latent heterosexuality. (And, yes, face-to-face is usually how it's done, people.)
But gay or straight, it doesn't sound like this boy is the right boy for you. Dream another dream, RC.
How long will come keep? Even when my boyfriend blue-pills it and works my hole for a few hours, by the time I push it out there's hardly enough for ONE gulp—to say nothing of filling a champagne flute. As hot as it sounds, I'm NOT going to invite 10 of our closest friends to dump loads in me. I figure my boyfriend and I could freeze our loads, push them up my butt, and he can churn them as he works my hole. But can come go bad? I'd rather not ask my doctor.
Desperately Seeking Semen
P.S. We've been together for five years and stopped using condoms four years ago after testing. No risk of the pest.
Gross-out letters from teenage straight and/or closeted boys pretending to be disgusting fags don't usually include information about testing and the length of the relationship, which leads me to believe that you might actually be disgusting fags. So I will answer your disgusting question:
You and your boyfriend will gulp down loads—or sip 'em out of champagne flutes—after you've pushed them back out of your ass, DSS. Do you really think that frozen-and-then-defrosted come, even if it's gone "bad," is going to be any worse than the slop you're already putting in your mouths?
My good friend Sarah tells me that you said you would give me a shout-out in your column last week for my birthday. I probably would have shit my pants and exploded with birthday happiness. But you didn't. So I just wanted to say thanks for ruining my 21st birthday. Oh, and if I could get the $3.25 back that I paid for the hardcover of The Commitment I found in a bargain bin, that would be fantastic.
Patrick From Portland
P.S. Just kidding. You're still my favorite sex columnist. But seriously: my birthday? Totally ruined.
Sorry about that, PFP. I will make it up to you by personally administering a belated birthday spanking the next time I'm in town.
The asshole's like, an inch away from the vagina. It's not that different, position wise.
I'm a woman, and I like missionary position anal because you get the nice grind on your clit. Obviously if you're a guy, there's a cock there instead, but I imagine the mechanics are basically the same.
Not to mention the fact that the vaginal canal is basically collapsed against itself most of the time, so you'd have to overfill it and somehow prevent all that latex from leaving it, either through the vulva or the cervix.
Moral of the story: probably a bad idea.
Dan, Thank you for calling out DSS and his boyfriend on their disgusting, and potentially dangerous fetish. Considering DSS refers to HIV/AIDS as a "pest" is our first clue that should these two come-craving lovebirds ever disperse, they will likely take their reckless behavior with them. They can claim to be clean, but the sexual acts they engage in are most assuredly dirty.
But more telling/alarming to me is that he doesn't give a "straight" answer to her Qs about orientation. EVERY straight guy (and some self-closeted or lying gay guys) will loudly proclaim their straightness.
Dan's right that she needs to DTMFA. But as she moves on, she shouldn't discount her likely accurate assessment of his orientation. To find such a guy "the boy of her dreams" suggests she's at risk of more of the same fag-haggery and needs to look carefully for those decidedly straight but senstive guys. You'll be doing them a favor if you get them before the pre-lesbians do.
And for what it's worth, you don't stick your dick in the bottle. (Mountain Dew does make a wide-mouthed bottle, but most of the others are too small for that.) But you can set the head of your dick ON the lip of the bottle, line it up with your urethra and everything will still aim properly--but you need to hold on fiercely to maintain a sort of seal, and you have to bear in mind that the bottle gets heavier as it fills and you need to adjust your grip accordingly, or you'll have a horrible, unspeakable mess. It was actually a terrifying experience, and I don't have roommates anymore.
Also, is it possible that the reader lived in New York City? Because I doubt this sort of thing happens in places with plentiful public facilities.
I'd dump him for his stupidity.
My hair and fingernails are pretty harmless in medical terms, but you don't see me keeping bags of that around, or letting the floor turn into a carpet of human waste.
Ew. I just icked myself out.
Don't judge me.
However, when moving with a person who is your S/o, I think its fair to piss in a bottle and walk it into the bathroom in front of them simply because you are paying rent and it lets them know they tok too long.
WHAT Women are you sleeping with looks like a dude with you are doing doggie? 'Cause she needs to be dropped, LOLZ. Man, dude I feel bad for the straight guy like likes anal as he's obviusly a 'pre-gay' then. Effin' Pre-Fag.
Here is one such professional in the UK:
http://privatesculpture.co.uk/gallery7.html
Or maybe he gets off on people finding his piss in bottles.
At any rate, even if he lived with lots of people before and needed the bottle, shouldn't he have gotten rid of it when he moved in with the girlfriend? It's not like there will be much of bathroom issue, right?
And for the record, I, too, am a woman and I piss in the shower all the time--and it grosses my boyfriend out.
I would like to see a poll like this:
I'm a woman, and I never pee in the shower
I'm a woman, and I have peed in the shower, guiltily
I'm a woman, and I pee freely in the shower
I'm a man, and I never pee in the shower
I'm a man, and I have peed in the shower, guiltily
I'm a man, and I pee freely in the shower
You know what I mean. So much for the kinks herein :(
"Oh! She's so disgusting!"
whatever.
A guy whose dick doesn't get fully hard and doesn't like blowjobs and doesn't like to look the girl in the face while fucking AND is uncommunicative could easily have a troubled background, to wit: a fundamentalist set of parents and extended family who isolated him socially and made him self-loathing and deeply ashamed of sex. For such a person (speaking from personal experience), accepting a blowjob from a woman, particularly woman you have strong feelings for, because (here is the mental script) "this act is DISGUSTING and TERRIBLE, and the person doing it must be SUFFERING HORRIBLY doing it to me, oh no, I'm feeling pleasure from this terrible thing, I'm an awful person doomed to everlasting pain in hell!"
Does anybody here see that having that script running through one's head at 120 decibels would interfere with erections and pleasure and with looking at the person who is involved in the damned acts with you?
There are a lot of very damaged people out there, damaged in ways which others who have had normal, positive sexual experiences and who have a reasonably positive view of themselves will have difficult understanding.
It's 28 years since I left home and I'm still not over everything.
You know after a few years you will find her sportin a few hairs and not giving a damn. Pising in bottles, I repat, is when you ahve no choice. it's not a thing you do just to do.
God, some people are daft. Would you rather have a bottle pisser or a person who wets themselves or the bed on ocassion?
That kind of frat boy shit is revolting and reflects a serious lack of motivation. He's so lazy he can't pee in a toilet? Can he get out of bed? Brush his teeth? Go to work? Wash his skidmarks out of his piss-scented underwear?
Come on, Dan. No woman should EVER have to put up with a man who regularly chooses to pee in a bottle rather than get his lazy ass up and use the toilet. That is NOT OKAY.
peeing in the shower? i'm surprised if the savage audience finds this is even a topic to talk about. i HAPPILY pee in the shower. it's just water, what we're all made of. i am female, for those readers who think gender relates to all this.
If he is your boyfriend you need to give him the benefit of the doubt. But I can also assume that you have either never been to a college party or never had roommates in college.
The odds that your boyfriend pissed into a Spite bottle in the middle of the night (in the dark) is a difficult task. Then he did not pee all over you, the bed and the floor is amazing.
I have to assume that because you are so clean that you are also one of those girls that stay in the shower for hours (especially after sex because you feel dirty). Then the poor guy wakes up and after the first hour has the choice you disturbing you in the bathroom or using the Spite bottle.
I think he needs to dump your for going around smelling bottles.
She, on the other hand, has her own set of hang ups. Just moved in together, empty bottle amongst the other moving trash, and she "figured [she]'d leave it there and let him pick it up along with his other trash in [their] bedroom"? Isn't it a little early to get that passive-aggressive? You're not his mom (although he doesn't seem to have grown up, what with the bottle-pissing); you shouldn't be passive-aggressively trying to teach him lessons. If you're anal-retentively clean (as I am), chances are in any relationship you will have to 1) figure out stuff to let go, 2) figure out stuff you absolutely need him to do, and tell him, and 3, a big one) figure out stuff it's easier to do yourself (and don't resent it).
I did some latex work for special effects stage makeup, and that shit takes hours and hours to dry. In a moist, warm body cavity, she would have to be propped upside down for 24-48 hours to get a solid mould.
So yeah, might be a fun fantasy, but it's connection with reality is even less solid than Sarah Palin's grasp of science.
Perhaps that's me; I was like her boyfriend in some ways (not all the specifics, but having trouble getting hard/coming) for a long time, but I loved eating pussy because I could be good at it anyway.
my advice to her is this. go down to the pharmacy, buy some adult diapers I recommend Attends (yah another piss related fetish of mine) and bring them home.
throw out the sprite bottle. and put a diaper on his pillow. When he goes to bed and asks 'WTF!!" say "Frankly I would rather you piss in a diaper than in a fucking bottle, you pig. At least then YOU are the only one who deals with the aftermath and not me. So either act like an adult or dress like a baby. you pick!!"
So consult with some of your medical help for possibilities and see if the GF can either ask questions or suggest he visit a dr.
As for doggie style, that can be FUN, though in this case it's worth checking out the other angles.
I'm on the east coast dan, ever make out this way? Wouldn't mind a birthday spanking from you.. :)
My habit blew up in a big way, though when the group of us we're moving out. One of the gals came up to my room to help me carry some stuff down, and saw the closet, chock-full of piss-filled containers. We never spoke about it, but I suspect she was rather disgusted.
(Tip: Never pee in a wax to-go cup--like the kind from McDonald's, BK, etc., etc.--piss eats right through 'em.)
A custom-made dildo sounds like an excellent idea!
I don't know how unusual my smallness is, but a VCAD mold might not be the bad investment opportunity Dan seems to think.
But to be fair, I'd really rather encounter a CLOSED UP bottle of pee than when people try and leave their pee sitting in the toilet "because it saves water." Ugh, so many things wrong with that: OK, what if I drop something of mine in the toilet (like a toothbrush?!)? And the smell? And the fact that it leaves rings in the toilet? And you know what, it DOESN'T save water I'm going to flush it if I'm the next person to use it because (here's where it gets graphically specific) I don't want anyone else's pee splashing back up onto my butt when I sit down to perform any acts of the bathroom symphony.
For a moment lets overlook the fact that your boyfriend is pissing into a plastic bottle while you're in the room, which by all means is a good enough reason to run and never turn back. For whatever reason your BF wants or needs to urinate in a plastic bottle in the middle of the night (maybe he doesn't wake up in time to get to the bathroom before wetting himself).
The reason you need to dump him is that he thinks it is acceptable to have a bottle of urine in his bedroom. If I pissed in a bottle, I'd be damn certain to make sure my wife never, ever found it. I wouldn't even think about it in her presence, just in case she asked me what I was thinking about.
Your BF doesn't seem to have a problem with having bottles of piss lying around, and obviously doesn't understand societal norms. And why when the bottle got full, did he not immediately dispose of it? Because he didn't care or thought that it was somehow acceptable. Think of what other foul habits he has, that you just haven't discovered yet.
While You maybe able to get him to use a coaster or laundry basket, this is something you will never be able to change.
Needless to say I would never pee in a bottle or bucket, and would never be with someone who did. I do pee in the shower though, and have often peed in the backyard when the bathroom is occupado.
I also can't have a cat because I am so sensitive to the pee smell - a litter box just repulses me.
But thanks, Dan, for all the gross and shocking letters after two weeks of ultimate boredom from people who paid to get their letters in your column, but couldn't be bothered to actually think of a good reason WHY they wanted their letters in your column.
Also, I often pee in the shower while taking a shower with my wife in such as way so she doesn't notice.
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This is too much work. Your boyfriend's not lazy. He's just weird.
b.t.w. If it is for convenience, you might reasonably expect that he also expects to dispose of it at a convenient time. You described the bottle as sealed, so it obviously isn't stinking up the bedroom. From his perspective, it is probably not critical that he dump it out immediately. After all, you don't empty the trash every time you throw away a used tampon, right?
To the rest of you: If you are that disgusted, perhaps you should reconsider whether you should be reading Savage Love. Did you not see the other letter about sucking the cum out of somebody's ass? Or the letter a few weeks ago about the guy with the shit on his dick?
And a special note to P-boy: Do you find that intimate relationships are usually strengthened by calling your partner by demeaning names like "you pig" and "you prick"?
Oh and for the girl, do you concentrate on him at all? Women I'm with always moan about how I have to do foreplay and such and then never do anything for me, then act all shocked when I'm not hard. Eating a clit until my jaw is numb might be fun, but it doesn't necessarily mean I'm going to have an erection.
She states that this is his first relationship which these days at age 20 is a rather late start.
It's far to premature to label him with gay/straight/etc. He's simply insecure.
Oh and re: bj's/general sex, there's nothing wrong with being somewhat prudish. I cant stand BJ's, and its not a religious thing, im just OCD and the thought of all the germs involved and of kissing or interacting with my G/F afterwords grosses me out. Ick.
An I'm getting a kick out of all the comments expressing bafflement at face-to-face anal. You people need to watch more gay porn. Or read slash fanfiction.
But it was not that long ago in our domestic history when chamber pots were regularly used -- even by the well-to-do. Not a big difference.
2) I've read that "gamers" (those who spend hours on end playing video games) pee in bottles so they don't miss out. DTMFA
The one exception I ever made to this was when I was showering with a boyfriend and didn't want him to think I was gross. (Turned out he wouldn't have; when I climbed back in, he informed me that he'd peed in the shower while I was gone.)
On the bottle issue, I have a hard time seeing the big deal. However, I am not remotely a normal person to ask about this. My father is a professional over-the-road truck driver, and used to take me and my brothers and sisters on trips with him during the summer so we wouldn't make our mother crazy. Bathrooms aren't exactly plentiful out on the highway in the middle of the night, and you can't always stop at a rest stop or gas station when you have a delivery deadline to meet. I was willing to hold it for fifty miles or more until I could get out to pee in some bushes off the shoulder, but unsurprisingly, my under-ten-years-old siblings couldn't do that. So, bottles. I got used to them being around (you can't drop them on the road side, there are hefty fines for littering the highway in many states). My big problem was that piss and Mountain Dew are about the same color, so we had drinking near-misses. (My mother and I eventually instituted the "green bottle" rule. Peeing could only be done in bottles whose intended contents are not SUPPOSED to be yellowish, like in empty bottles of water.)
Once you've gotten used to throwing out bags of piss bottles in gas station trash cans, they just never bother you the same way again.
If it bothers PISS, though, that's valid. I think Dan's proposed compromise sounds like a good one.
leave interior vaginal casting to the pros... there is a reason why this doesn't exist.
Two more things: A) leaving your piss standing around in a bottle to be found by the gf you moved in with recently is not exactly expressing respect. The times when someone else had to take care of his piss should be *long* over, unless it's indeed a fetish.
B)If this grosses her out, and they are still relatively young -20ies or 30ies- she might want to imagine what someone already too lazy to carry his ass to the bathroom at night *or* get rid of that bottle himself afterwards will be like in 20 years from now. My guess: Not compatible with her.
That is disgusting.
Peeing in the shower in no way compares and, see the comment above, it's bound to spill on the floor as he does it. OMG for me that would be a sacking offense. Gross.
For shame. Spend a couple of minutes thinking about it, fer cripes sakes.
I've peed in a bottle when I was naked in a tent and it was freezing cold outside and it was better than getting dressed.
I guess how hard it would be to pee in a small opening of a liter bottle would depend on the size of the pisshole, some guys have a slit. I have a very small defined opening and if I put that opening in the circle of the bottle I can pee in it np.
But in a house equipped with a bathroom? No. In the shower, sure, it's going down the drain and how many places can you play with your pee stream. It's warm and feels forbidden. Why not.
Really Need to Know
In any case, the comments show that there are 2 types of people: those that think peeing in bottles is gross and those that think it is no big deal. Soi, this couple seems incompatible.
the first thing that I'd like to do..."
Songs Jim Croce never wrote.
Hey, where does a "man of my dreams" keep his pecan? Under the bed! ::rim shot::
To avoid it yet to be mindful of the efforts to respectfully redirect some thinking that won't continually counteract and contradict a losers cry wolf.
Especially if I pee directly into the drain so you can't smell it really even if I've loaded up on asparagus?
Save the planet, pee in the shower.
It's quite normal to pee in the shower, after all, it's the place where we clean ourselves i.e. if someone peed on me, I'd go take a shower.
Pissing on a Sprite bottle is just wrong. I hope one of these nights you trip on this bottle and spill it on your clothes that I'm sure are all over the floor...
But I still find bottle-pissing dude gross. For one, such a thing shouldn't be left around or be used multiple times. Disgusting!
And it's not like he was on a damn car trip and had no other option.
Nasty. He's just a lazy pig and sees nothing wrong with storing his piss in a bottle just to save himself the effort of going pee like a normal person.
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