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A New Morning of America

Blue Scholars, Obama, Mad Rad, and the State of Seattle Hiphop

A New Morning of America

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BLUE SCHOLARS Waking up and smelling the (future of) hiphop?

Nearly half a decade ago, Blue Scholars released a self- titled CD that launched Seattle's new generation, its second wave, of hiphop. Before the duo appeared, the post–Sir Mix-A-Lot underground was defined by the music and politics of Silent Lambs Project, Black Anger, Source of Labor, and Oldominion. The first wave had its center in the Central District, the city's historical black neighborhood; the second has its center in Beacon Hill, a dense and multiracial neighborhood (or, to use the language of Georgetown University professor Sheryll Cashin, a multiracial island). What Blue Scholars, Common Market, and Abyssinian Creole brought to the scene in 2005 was the diversity of the immigrant experience—not only stories and realities from other countries but also from other states. RA Scion, for example, raps about tobacco plantations in Kentucky, a world that is as far from Seattle's economic and social environment as the Philippines that Geologic describes in some of his raps.

Now, before we look at the future of the leaders of the second wave, Blue Scholars, and the possible leaders of a third wave of hiphop that has its center on Capitol Hill, I want to make a point that I've failed to make in other articles. With the local scene, a distinction must be made between the crews that continue the mainstream approach to hiphop from its national level to a local one. These groups tend to be black and receive almost no press in this and other publications unless, of course, someone is shot at their shows or parties. The recent explosion of press about the local scene does not include artists and promoters like Ghetto Prez, Gameboy, Funkdaddy, and Skuntdunanna. They have their own network of venues (like Vito's—where a man was recently shot) and publicity nodes (Seaspot.com). They want nothing to do with KEXP and have placed their eggs all in one basket, KUBE. These commercially oriented crews exist alongside but very much apart from Seattle's currently successful second wave.

One last point to make before turning to what's new with Blue Scholars. Another major difference between the first and second waves of Seattle hiphop is the economic and political climates from which they came. The first was submerged in the prosperous Clinton years, and its gloominess—say, the dark tones and themes of Black Anger—sharply contrasted the terrific prosperity of the period. As for the second wave, the music is a little more hopeful, while the political and social climate is bleak. In the '00s, America is lost in the wilderness of two wars, one of its major cities is wiped out by the lethal combination of natural forces and human incompetence, and the president does his desperate best to break the back of democracy. We cannot separate the Bush years from the music of Blue Scholars.

"As much as we are a product of those times, our focus has never been about Bush but the issues," Geo, the rapper for Blue Scholars, says over the phone (he is in San Diego for a show). "I mean, really, we only mentioned him a few times on our records. It was not Bush that concerned us but the issues. They took greater prominence over just a person or a presidency." I have to agree with Geo about this. His raps are not analytical or even directly critical; they are instead documents of a way of life, a way of being in the city, in a family, in oneself. Geo does not expose lies or show us the way to truth. He is not a teacher or a cultural decoder but a narrator. He simply tells it like it is.

But what kind of stories will he tell in a world that is shaped by Obama? Can we expect the same kinds of experiences, voices, difficulties? "There is no doubt there is a shift away from neocons running shit," says Geo. "Those with progressive views finally have some breathing space. But the bogeyman is no longer out there for the armchair liberal to point a finger at. There is more work to be done as a progressive. You see, Bush made it easy for us. Now we have to do more than just pointing a finger at one guy...."

"I have been hearing a lot about this," says Sabzi, Blue Scholars' DJ/producer, in another phone conversation (he is at home cooking with his roommates). "'Now that Obama is the president, what are you going to rap about now?' What the fuck are you talking about? We didn't start a band about Bush. It's about life, and the last time I checked, life is still happening!" Later in the conversation: "The real issue is some people have a very narrow idea of what politics is. You know what I mean? Now, I don't want to run away from our protest songs. But, really, my identity is not based on complaining about things. That is a sad identity."

That settled, I turn to the question of the day: Mad Rad. The trio recently released a CD that begins with hiphop but ends at a completely different place and register. Here is my position on the group: Mad Rad represent a new third wave of local hiphop. Whereas Seattle's first wave was based in the CD, the second on Beacon Hill, the next wave's epicenter looks to be Capitol Hill. More than that, as the first wave emerged in the Clinton years, the second in the Bush, Mad Rad's looks like it will emerge in the age of Obama. Mad Rad, who weirdly enough are closer to the commercial side of local hiphop (crunk beats, glam rap, gangsta bling) than the second wave, might be the crew that best express the situation of an America that's heading toward a postracial society. Whatever the case may be, they are causing a lot of noise, confusion, and controversy.

"I acknowledge the polarizing aspect of that group," says Geo, "We can relate to that. We might have a different approach, but when a group comes around, ignites the scene, and has people debating the form of hiphop and its content.... Is that the theme of '09? Is it 'no more of the same'? It doesn't matter what I think. I say yes!" As for Sabzi? No real opinion yet. "I heard the album once. I'm looking forward to seeing the live show. Either way, I'm excited to perform with them." recommended

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Mad Rad fucking suck and don't even deserve to be mentioned within the same space as Blue Scholars. Get over it Charles! Does the Stranger give you a quota of Bands to write about who drink at the Cha Cha?
Posted by just listening to mad rad will give you herpes on December 17, 2008 at 3:42 PM · Report
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herpes sure is fun
Posted by thefuckler on December 17, 2008 at 4:44 PM · Report
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lol at that mad guy above
MAD RAD IN THE BUILDING!!!
Posted by sebsteroni on December 17, 2008 at 8:42 PM · Report
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MadRad have nothing to do with Seattle hip-hop, except that they've become it's newest running joke!!! I think Buffalo Madonna is going to notch up even more bitch slappings in 09 than he did in 08. Better stick to the Cornish kids and snowbunnies.
Posted by Masta Ace Frehley on December 17, 2008 at 9:28 PM · Report
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Don't be too serious. Blue Scholars are not that great either...There is no upper or lower echelon of hip hop in Seattle.... just a flat plane of lame. There, I said it.. biotch.
Posted by Yor Mouth Here on December 18, 2008 at 12:19 AM · Report
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You left out some serious key players in the hip hop scene, huge miss.
Posted by backintheday on December 18, 2008 at 7:10 AM · Report
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what a pile of shit, i want my time back.
Posted by quit writing on December 18, 2008 at 2:13 PM · Report
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shut the fuck up all of you, all of you are on my nuts and i hustle hard with the scholars and Mad Rad cuz I'm the biz and yall lames are my tranny granny's jizz
Posted by icecube1992paramounttheatre on December 18, 2008 at 8:28 PM · Report
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I don't know what you've been told, but I've been rappin' since I'm five years old, blah blah blah... Y'all need to quit pounding on your chests and elevate your art form before REAL music fans lose interest more than they already have and quit buying your thrown together CD's and stop going to your expensive live shows altogether. There... I said it.
Posted by hawk2spit on December 18, 2008 at 9:14 PM · Report
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yizzo on the fliziiile
i bang your chicnk/she sang my dic til she hic/cup double d/wus fucking with me/og since tribal dropped pharmacy/i roll deep like a skating rink/i have a snitch or fake mc/i fuck broads outside and use their pom pom juice/to paint walls like Specs or lace the booth with the truth like merm and mal/tell your girl i got the sperm to make her call/fuck yall that don't know the dollar/i am the body guard for mAD rad and Blue Scholars
Posted by seattle aint shit-KENT biotch on December 18, 2008 at 10:35 PM · Report
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Yo dropping the knowledge/since I went to college/where I learned the knowledge/so I could drop the knowledge/so you could also learn the knowledge/and go to college/and get more knowledge/so you could then drop that knowledge/and I could learn that knowledge/and then we could both drop that knowledge simultaneously/and it would be just like college again/snow covers the foilage/911 is a joke

blue scholars are mad boring, yo.
Posted by -f-f-f--f-f-freesssh on December 19, 2008 at 12:24 AM · Report
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f-f-f-ffresh want's my sac on his chest/best better know/i whoop on that ass like yo/you out here Fao scwarztin cause you a toy/i'm cavorting with sportin' life cause i'm a d-boy/holding court in life with my desert eag/you better believe/i sneeze you bleed/oh vey/i'm a sea dwella all day/from westlake to the raineir to aurura ok/you a babe in toyland/i'm 4 4 real though/bumping that Jace and Blak while these stranger cats fuck dildoes/yall weird yo
Posted by rckcandy warrior '97 on December 19, 2008 at 8:32 AM · Report
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Mad Rad really is a steaming pile of hipster bullshit. In that sense, yes, they've captured our era perfectly.
Posted by abc on December 19, 2008 at 12:11 PM · Report
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A steaming pile of hipster bullshit/
Me? Senile, up in your pullpit/
Preachin the Gospel, tiltin' the 40s/
2nd wave rapper, well in my 40s/
Fellas before me was 1st wave suckas/
Bruthas that's next is suck wave ruckus/
Knuckles crackin' the cold, hurts to grind/
Hustle crack in the snow - 3rd & Pine/
Mudede and Mad Rad all up in your Macintosh/
Next wave Cap Hill-bombs over Bagguette Box/
Wave caps, bags of bomb, dirty old Chucks/
69 assholes tied in a knot. Hooray! Lizard shit! Fuck!
Posted by Stoney Tony Balogna on December 19, 2008 at 2:12 PM · Report
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Thirty years ago Rap was new
Now it's Old School, like Haiku.
How will the kids keep their composure
When hard times call for Old-school closures?
Posted by Dese Nuts, etc. on December 19, 2008 at 2:35 PM · Report
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Yo yo yo.. I want a piece of this cause my breathe smells like licorice/ You think I'm ticklish but it's really just the jaeger/ it's 1993 - so hit me up on on my pager/ oh shit, no its not, but bend over, I've got a taser/ It's 15 years lasers, it ain't reinvented prose/ With knees highs at your ankles you know you best be crankin those/ Up to your thighs you be looking like stank ho ho ho's; whats wrong, dude? my wig is orange, you know I brushed my teef/ you know I eat the green shit, so what you got beef?/ yr hip hop is a joke, I do this shit fer free.
Posted by JonPanther - this is why we don't sing on December 19, 2008 at 2:42 PM · Report
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Thirty years ago, Rap was new
Now it's Old School, like haiku
How will the kids keep their composure
When hard times call for Old-School closures?
Posted by Dese Nuts, etc. on December 19, 2008 at 3:07 PM · Report
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"You left out some serious key players in the hip hop scene, huge miss."


sir, i know all of the key players in this town--all of them. nothing in seattle is hidden from me. nothing. i now this scene like just ice knows how to go "way back."
Posted by mudede on December 19, 2008 at 3:29 PM · Report
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Stoney Tony Balogna is killin' shit™. Who says rap in Seattle is dead?
Posted by segal on December 19, 2008 at 3:37 PM · Report
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you guys are haters. mad rad has every right to do whatever they want. whats not hip hop about them?
the anger is ridiculous. mad rad works harder than anyone ive ever seen in the music biz and there hustle is being recognized. good for them.
i guess you preps could keep being angry because someone is a little different but thats some weak shit.

thanks mudede for having some balls and being broad in your music appreciation.

Posted by real john richards on December 19, 2008 at 3:52 PM · Report
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Yo! I just made the beat y'all!!! This shit is fresh! Check this out!

84 bpms
4/4

Kik || x---x---
Snr || --x---x-
Hat || xxxxxxxx -repeat x72

And then just lay this sample over the skelton on the 1:

MmmmmmmaaaaAAAUtotuuuuuneeee Yeah Baby!


Sick slaps, right?

Fuck yes! We are cypherin' y'all!
Posted by Snowtard (5th Waver) on December 19, 2008 at 4:43 PM · Report
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Everybodys sayin that they know whats up, but the way they presentin' it's looking like front, like the snow storm comin' in off the coast, keep hatin' this way we'll all become ghosts, so take some advice from a young mc, don't make me count it out like 1, 2, 3, listen to McCartney and just "Let it Be," much love and respect from S, E, A to the T.
Posted by Double I-Roc on December 19, 2008 at 5:53 PM · Report
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whaddya mean you dont know what squirrel titties smell like??
Posted by whaddya put on YOUR cheerios then? on December 20, 2008 at 5:23 AM · Report
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Sometimes a controlled burn is what is needed to reseed an area.

Sure the Stranger is for wank hipsters and might I add for better or worse really damn harsh at times. I don't know how to take such honesty.

All I know is this sure ain't Minneapolis when it comes to hip hop. It doesn't seem horrible, but strong its not. This from my amateur 6 month long life here in the area.
Posted by Assassinave on December 20, 2008 at 9:43 AM · Report
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I love Blue Scholars and Mad Rad! I love listening to their music. :)
Posted by Blush on December 20, 2008 at 7:53 PM · Report
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Please hire someone who likes hiphop/rap and takes it seriously. Thanks.
Posted by YeahWhatever on December 22, 2008 at 12:50 AM · Report
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Yo mudede. your ignorance is on display, sucka duck. You don't know shite about mid nineties seattle hip hop. go work for kube, mark.
Posted by conspicuously absent on December 22, 2008 at 7:27 PM · Report
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Good God. If I ever needed further confirmation that Hip-Hop is dead, this article would be a mortician.
Posted by JF on December 23, 2008 at 8:30 AM · Report
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Wow, there are some upset people writing here. I'm a huge Blue Scholars fan and glad to see an article that recognizes their awesome beats and community activism.
Posted by ahammer on December 23, 2008 at 9:32 AM · Report
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Mad Rad is dope.
I think that Seattle Hip-Hop is so diverse that you can't categorize it with anything.
Posted by Soundmaster Sam on December 23, 2008 at 7:23 PM · Report
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Props to Charles for his interpretation of the scene. For better or worse, he does the nail on the head.

Still, why write off "mainstream" groups in the Seattle area as too "commercially oriented" to really talk about? Think Mad Rad and Blue Scholars aren't commercially oriented?

Where's the story here anyway? I'd rather hear more about the other groups. Talk about why they shun the Stranger and KEXP, what's up with the violence, what's the scene all about. The Stranger ain't covering it...
Posted by mmmm on December 24, 2008 at 1:22 AM · Report
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I don't know what's funnier, the article or the comments section.
Posted by sherpaco on December 24, 2008 at 1:35 AM · Report
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if you wanna read about all those groups that The Stranger almost never writes about, just read my column in The Stranger(i think I represent the 'almost'). I'd love to tell you about this years' Gangsta Nutt/Twin G LP.
Posted by lar on December 24, 2008 at 5:44 PM · Report
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there's a difference between complaining and expressing your ideas and beliefs into a song - or even a conversation for that matter.
Posted by max on December 28, 2008 at 12:57 AM · Report
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Ther's a difference between passively not giving a shit and intently not giving a shit.

Take your pick. Either way I don't give a shit.
Posted by Shit Not Giver on December 28, 2008 at 1:53 PM · Report
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SNG: Those who REALLY don't give a shit don't post comments on blogs.
Posted by segal on December 28, 2008 at 10:55 PM · Report
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sCollars aZul...siempre un soplo de aire freso yall heralds of the Glocal from the peoples dialectic, straight out the belly! keep keepin on the protract bros...adelante!
Posted by emilianoC. on January 13, 2009 at 10:07 PM · Report
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the scholars have brought some substance back to seattle, where ringtone rap rules the streets.

sad that some of you can't appreciate that.
Posted by adobongmanok on January 21, 2009 at 7:57 PM · Report
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BLUE SCHOOL AND BAD SAD RAD ARE FOR WHITE PEOPLE. REP YIRIM SECK OR DIE.
Posted by Lawrim0reH0ttEE6969 on March 5, 2009 at 12:23 PM · Report

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