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Federal Prosecutors in Seattle Are Dragging Activists into Grand Juries, Citing Their Social Circles and Anarchist Reading Materials

Political Convictions?

ROBERT ULLMAN

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On Thursday, August 2, at roughly 12:45 p.m., a small woman with long black hair and a red cardigan sweater stood on the lawn of Seattle's federal courthouse, surrounded by a few friends and around 75 protesters. On the steps behind her, a few dozen law-enforcement officers watched as she nervously spoke into a megaphone, announcing that she would not cooperate with the federal grand jury proceedings taking place inside. She said she would go into the courthouse, give the jury only her name and date of birth, and refuse to answer any further questions. "Under no circumstances," she said, speaking for herself and another recipient of a subpoena, "will we talk about other people."

The woman, a 24-year-old from Portland named Leah-Lynn Plante, was prepared to go to jail for refusing to talk about who may have been involved in the politically motivated vandalism in downtown Seattle on May Day, when activists smashed out the windows of several banks and stores—including Wells Fargo and Niketown—as well as a federal courthouse door.

Refusal to testify before a federal grand jury can result in jail time for contempt of court. (Video journalist Josh Wolf, for example, served seven and a half months in 2006 and 2007 for refusing to cooperate with a grand jury and turn over his footage of a protest in San Francisco.)

In a follow-up interview with The Stranger, Plante said she wasn't even in Seattle on May 1 and is neither a witness to nor a perpetrator of any related crimes. She is, however, a self-declared anarchist and thinks the FBI singled her out because of her political beliefs and social affiliations.

"We support the efforts of all those who will be resisting this grand jury," she said quietly into the megaphone on the courthouse lawn. The crowd cheered.

"We love you, Leah!" somebody shouted. Plante smiled wanly. Then she walked up the courthouse steps past the line of officers, hugged two friends, wiped some tears from her eyes, and pushed her way through the revolving glass door. She was headed to a courtroom where she was not allowed to have an attorney to represent her or a judge to mediate—just a jury listening to a prosecutor who is looking for an indictment. (Because grand jury proceedings are secret, the US Department of Justice was unable to comment on any elements of this story.)

Plante had been summoned to Seattle by a federal subpoena, delivered to her in the early hours of July 25, when the FBI raided her home—one of several raids in Seattle and Portland in the past couple of months. FBI agents, she said, smashed through her front door with a battering ram with assault rifles drawn, "looking paramilitary." According to a copy of the warrant, agents were looking for black clothing, paint, sticks, flags, computers and cell phones, and "anti-government or anarchist literature."

The warrants for the related raids used similar language. One warrant for an early morning raid at a Seattle home also listed black clothing, electronics, and "paperwork—anarchists in the Occupy movement." In effect, witnesses in Portland and Seattle say, federal and local police burst into people's homes while they were sleeping and held them at gunpoint while rummaging through their bookshelves, looking for evidence of political leanings instead of evidence of a crime. (For the record, I executed a quick search of my home early this morning and found black clothing, cans of paint, sticks, cloth, electronics, and "anarchist literature.")

"When I see a search warrant that targets political literature, I get nervous," said attorney Neil Fox, president of the Seattle chapter of the National Lawyers Guild. (The Seattle chapter released a statement urging the FBI and the US Attorney to end the raids and drop the grand jury subpoenas.) Raids like those can have a chilling effect on free speech, he said, and a long-term "negative effect on the country—you want to have robust discussions about political issues without fear." He also has concerns about the scope of the warrants: "'Anti- government literature' is so broad," he said. "What does that include? Does that include the writings of Karl Marx? Will that subject me to having my door kicked in and being dragged in front of a grand jury?"

Grand juries, Fox explained, were originally conceived as a protection for citizens against overzealous prosecutors and are enshrined in the Fifth Amendment of the US Constitution. A petite jury—the more familiar kind, from 6 to 12 people—determines innocence or guilt during a trial. A grand jury is larger, from 16 to 23 people, meets with a prosecutor but no defense attorneys, and determines whether there's enough evidence to indict someone for a federal crime.

Nowadays, Fox said, grand juries are often used by prosecutors and investigators who have run out of leads. But grand juries are secret, so it's difficult to know what the prosecutor is really doing. And the effects of raids and subpoenas like the ones in Seattle and Portland may be more about putting on the dramatic public spectacle of dragging people through the mud than investigating a crime.

Doug Honig, communications director at ACLU of Washington, echoed Fox's concerns: "If it's not carefully conducted, it can end up becoming a fishing expedition looking into people's political views and political associations."

Journalist Will Potter, author of Green Is the New Red, who has written extensively about US law enforcement and its relationships with political dissidents from the 1990s onward, said such investigations don't just incidentally chill free speech—in some cases, he believes, they're trying to do that.

"Sometimes, law enforcement believes this knocking-down-the-door, boot-on-the-throat intimidation is part of a crime-prevention strategy," he said. But a more pernicious goal may be social mapping. The anarchist books and cans of spray paint can be sexy items to wave around a courtroom, he said, but "address books, cell phones, hard drives—that's the real gold."

During the raid at her home, Plante said, some of the agents were initially hyperaggressive, but seemed "confused" by finding nothing more sinister than five sleepy young people. "It seemed like what they expected was some armed stronghold," she said. "But it's just a normal house, with normal stuff in the pantry, lots of cute animals, and everyone here was docile and polite."

"That's a really important point," Potter said when I mentioned that detail. "There's a huge disconnect between what the FBI and local police are being told and trained for, and what the reality is. There are presentations about ominous, nihilistic, black-clad, bomb-throwing, turn-of-the-century caricatures—the reality is that many anarchists are just organizing gathering spaces, free libraries, free neighborhood kitchens."

He directed me to a 2011 PowerPoint presentation from the FBI's "domestic terrorism operations unit"—posted on his blog—that described the current anarchist movement as "criminals seeking an ideology to justify their activities." Following that logic, the very presence of anarchist literature could be construed as evidence that someone has motivations to commit a crime. And it makes attorneys, journalists, and others who care about First Amendment protections nervous about a law-enforcement practice that conflates political beliefs with criminal activity.

Forty-five minutes after Plante pushed through the revolving door at the courthouse, she reemerged. She smiled shyly while the crowd of protesters cheered. Plante told the crowd that she gave the grand jury her name and her date of birth, refused to answer any other questions, and was released.

But Plante's ordeal isn't over—the court issued another subpoena for her to return on August 30. Whether she cooperates, and whether she faces jail time for noncooperation, remains to be seen. recommended

This article has been updated since its original publication.

 

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Wouldn't it be great if, instead of spending so much zealous energy pursuing people who may or may not be plotting the next breaking of store windows, the FBI directed that energy into, I don't know, people affiliated with hate groups who may or not be plotting to walk into a temple and murder a bunch of people?
Posted by madcap on August 8, 2012 at 9:38 AM · Report this
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Interesting article about this same case from local paper Tides of Flame, "Hunting Witches in the Pacific Northwest: On the Grand Jury Targeting Anarchists":
http://tidesofflame.wordpress.com
Posted by blackgreens on August 8, 2012 at 11:19 AM · Report this
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One from Rolling Stone "How FBI Entrapment Is Inventing 'Terrorists' - and Letting Bad Guys Off the Hook": http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/blo…
Posted by blackgreens on August 8, 2012 at 11:22 AM · Report this
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Someone is keeping up a website for organizing Grand Jury resistance at:
http://nopoliticalrepression.wordpress.c…
Posted by No2Fascism on August 8, 2012 at 3:01 PM · Report this
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Someone is keeping up a website for organizing Grand Jury resistance at:
http://nopoliticalrepression.wordpress.c…
Posted by No2Fascism on August 8, 2012 at 3:03 PM · Report this
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Also there is saynothing.info
Posted by bdurruti on August 8, 2012 at 3:38 PM · Report this
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no judges in a grand jury dawg I THOUGHT U WERE A JOURNALIST
Posted by fukc on August 8, 2012 at 4:56 PM · Report this
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But grand juries are secret, so it's difficult to know what the judge and the prosecutor are really doing.

There is no judge in a Grand Jury.

Rookie mistake, Kiley.
Posted by Deckard on August 8, 2012 at 5:02 PM · Report this
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@Deckard....

Sorry, but there is a judge that oversees the proceedings.

There is a grand jury that hears evidence and testimony. According to the law, the purpose of a grand jury is to decide whether or not to indict someone/people for a crime. However, this is a fishing expedition: looks like the DA is only interested in starting a witch hunt.
Posted by Anonymous1 on August 8, 2012 at 7:10 PM · Report this
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Sorry, but a Judge does NOT "oversee the proceedings".

Prosecutors schedules the witnesses and the testimony a Grand Jury hears. The prosecutor decides who they ask the Grand Jury to indict. The prosecutor issues subpoenas on behalf of the Grand Jury. A judge is not involved in any of this.

As far as a fishing expedition, there WAS a crime (the destruction of Govt Property). Now there is an investigation. Sounds legit to me.

Ms. Plant is not cooperating with the Grand Jury in their efforts to bring the guilty parties to justice.

If everyone did what she is doing, we would have anarchy.

But that is the whole point, isn't it?

Posted by Deckard on August 9, 2012 at 7:56 AM · Report this
Godzilla1916 11
Power and support to Ms. Plante and all other activists being dragged before this mummer's farce of a jury. I am not naive enough to believe this kind of political suppression is an exception in this country, but come on, we gotta fight this type of harrassment/aggression tooth and nail. Black clothing, sticks, masks, and anti government literature? Jay-sus! Thankfully that is easily filled by everyone I know.
Posted by Godzilla1916 on August 9, 2012 at 8:49 AM · Report this
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A group put on a show destroying property, the authorities investigate and a self-identified member of that group is asked to testify. Seems pretty straight forward to me.

There doesn't seem to be too much to report here beyond the tired old "Middle Class White Girl Slums It for a Few Years" scenario. Five'll get you ten she's driving her kids to soccer practice in about 10 years.
Posted by repete on August 9, 2012 at 9:55 AM · Report this
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@ 12, I hope you know that "anarchism" isn't an organized group or some sort of club with a membership card. It's a political ideology among other things. Suggesting that they are a self identified member of a group because they are an anarchist is like saying that someone is a member of the Westboro Baptist Church because they believe in god. Sure, it's possible, but one doesn't always mean the other.
Posted by goodneighbor on August 9, 2012 at 11:25 AM · Report this
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Anarchism is the new communism, and SPD staff seemingly can't stop thinking about it.

I recently asked a cop who was directing traffic and allowing large group of disorderly people cross the street against the traffic signal why this was allowed, but if they had been part of a political demonstration, their pedestrian interference would be met with batons and pepper spray. Instead of answering my question, he asked if I was an anarchist.

In a sworn declaration in support of subpoena duces tecum submitted to KOMO-TV, KING-TV, KIRO-TV, KCPQ-TV, the Seattle Times, and the Seattle Post Intelligencer, Detective Rik H. Hall #6154 of Seattle Police Department claimed under penalty of perjury to have attended "training regarding anarchism" during his assignment as detective. However, after I submitted a public records request for "all schedules, attendance records, printed or electronic training materials (handouts, manuals, videos presented or recorded, etc.) for all training attended by Seattle Police Department staff during the past five years regarding specific political ideologies" including but not limited to the training Mr. Hall claims to have received, SPD's public records unit responded that they could find no such records.
Posted by Phil M http://https://twitter.com/pmocek on August 9, 2012 at 12:26 PM · Report this
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@13: The Anarchism we witnessed on 5/1 was spontaneous? Of course those participating in riots don't represent all Anarchists and not all anarchists are part of a movement, but it's clear there is some organization and planning afoot, no?
Posted by repete on August 9, 2012 at 12:32 PM · Report this
MacCrocodile 16
@10 - The grand jury should not be used to gather evidence. The point is supposed to be to try to get an indictment.

A crime was committed, yes, but that doesn't mean this isn't a fishing expedition.

Seems like the grand jury has become a way for the authorities to force people to sit through an interview, a subpoena being harder to get out of than just walking out of a police station. It's not only a waste of resources, but a sneaky abuse of the intent of grand juries.
Posted by MacCrocodile http://maccrocodile.com/ on August 9, 2012 at 1:59 PM · Report this
Kinison 17
Grand Juries seem to be perfectly justifiable ... when going after fringe religious cults who fake kid nap children.

http://slog.thestranger.com/slog/archive…

But to use them against protesters ... OMG POLICE STATE!!!
Posted by Kinison http://www.holgatehawks.com on August 9, 2012 at 2:02 PM · Report this
MacCrocodile 18
@17 - Based on the phrase "grand jury investigation"? In that situation, it doesn't sound like they brought those involved into the grand jury without evidence already in place. In the case of the protesters, it sure sounds like all they've got on this woman is the people she knows and the books she reads. Anyway, just because it's been used before is no justification for the tactic now. All that says is that this has been a shitty tactic for a long time.

I suspect that when she's called back again, they won't charge her with contempt of court. I'm no legal expert, but that sure sounds like grounds for a fourth and fifth amendment challenge... and maybe even first, if you can demonstrate that her personal associations were used as "evidence" against her.
Posted by MacCrocodile http://maccrocodile.com/ on August 9, 2012 at 2:12 PM · Report this
Kinison 19
Grands juries appear to be a-ok when going after religious cults who fake kidnap their own children.

http://slog.thestranger.com/slog/archive…

But Grand Juries are not ok when it comes to going after neo anarchists who want to shield their friends from the crimes they commit.
Posted by Kinison http://www.holgatehawks.com on August 9, 2012 at 3:01 PM · Report this
Kinison 20
Must be some cache problem with my PC, never saw my post.
Posted by Kinison http://www.holgatehawks.com on August 9, 2012 at 3:03 PM · Report this
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It's all political persecution. Banksters can bring down the whole economy in the course of massive intentional frauds, and the government gives them a trillion plus in bail outs and nobody goes to jail. But let some vegan, bike riding kid in a black hoodie break a window and they send out paramilitaries with machine guns, battering rams, flash grenades and subpoenas looking for "anarchist literature". Birth control and divorce were anarchist ideas. People went to jail for those, too. First amendment? What first amendment? It is the triumph of the C and D students. Nobody smarter than that would want any part of it.
Posted by hereitcomesagain on August 9, 2012 at 3:23 PM · Report this
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Criminals very often lie about their crimes. I am glad to see that they are taking the attempts to cause a riot and the damage to my city seriously. Anyone involved should go to jail for a not insignificant time.

Fuck these guys.
Posted by giffy on August 9, 2012 at 4:09 PM · Report this
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@22 -- I can guaranfuckingtee that you, too, are a criminal.

Have a nice day.

Posted by SweetDarkLord on August 9, 2012 at 4:27 PM · Report this
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Plante must love jail. Works for me.
Posted by Mister G on August 9, 2012 at 6:09 PM · Report this
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@14

To be fair, Phil, that is exactly the sort of question that an anarchist deeply invested in delegitimizing The Police would ask.

And anyone who's read any three of your comments on SLOG knows that you yourself will support any effort to deligitimize The Cops, and have never written a single word to suggest that you regard any form of policing at all to be legitimate.
Posted by robotslave on August 9, 2012 at 9:01 PM · Report this
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@25: Robobslave wrote, "that is exactly the sort of question that an anarchist deeply invested in delegitimizing The Police would ask" Typical response. My reasoning for asking is irrelevant, and my political ideology is none of that cop's business. Seconds later, the same cop lied to me about the legality of recording him there on the street.

I regard policing to be necessary at this time. I think the adjustments necessary for our society to go without them will not happen in our lifetimes, if ever. I think our police need to do their jobs in an ethical and constitutional manner. I think when they make mistakes or engage in wilful misconduct, their actions cause more harm than those of people in other professions, and thus that they need extra scrutiny.

I do not wish to deligitimize police. I wish for police to be held accountable for their actions. I want the SPOG to stop terrorizing us. I want the public to stop paying Rich O'Neil's salary. I want SPD staff to stop hiding their actions and to stop withholding public records from the public. I insist that police do their jobs in an ethical and constitutional manner.
Posted by Phil M http://https://twitter.com/pmocek on August 9, 2012 at 10:08 PM · Report this
watchout5 27
Police state. I hope someone saves us.
Posted by watchout5 http://www.overclockeddrama.com on August 9, 2012 at 10:18 PM · Report this
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Until I see a conviction at trial of leaders of organized "anarchist" property destruction I will continue to believe that this is just the next step in the agent provocateur policy implemented by the police and the FBI to make scary boogie men out of people like the young women who is the subject of this article when the organized dirty deeds are actually being done by the arms of the government.

They don't have convictions because the ring leaders of the most disturbing acts are on a government payroll. We'll see - maybe this escalation in jack boot thug behavior will incite some violence that isn't planned and perpetrated by law enforcement employees or hirelings.

I agree with the other poster. Maybe if the feds local police in this country were monitoring right wing gun nuts instead of young free food advocates, those people in the theater in Colorado and the Sikh temple wouldn't be dead right now.
Posted by cracked on August 10, 2012 at 2:39 AM · Report this
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@26

I dunno, Phil. If "my political ideology" is something that involves, say "people who wear turbans don't deserve to live," then is that not something a community should be concerned about?

If my community happens to be one that considers policing to be fundamentally, morally legitimate, and your ideology rejects the fundamental, moral legitimacy of policing, then why wouldn't that be a concern for the community, and for the police that embody an essential moral tenet of that community?

If "my political ideology" dictates that "there should be no Police", and if the community I live in does, perversely, want to be regulated by an egalitarian, organized system of justice and a cadre of All Bastard Cops to enforce it, well, then, why wouldn't my ideology be very relevant indeed, in interactions with the police?

You say you consider a police force "necessary at this time," Phil. But do you consider it legitimate? Could the sort of society you'd prefer to live in ever include a legitimate police force?
Posted by robotslave on August 10, 2012 at 3:10 AM · Report this
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@16 If the grand jury can't "gather evidence", how can they decide if an indictment is warranted?

Evidence is testimony. Evidence is documents. If the grand jury has no authority to compel witnesses to appear or subpoena documents, how can they come to a decision?

The Grand Jury has the ulitimate say. If the jurors think the prosecution is behaving inappropriately, they can just shut the investigation down. No more witnesses, no more subpoenas and certainly no indictment.

The people have the power. All you anarchists should rejoice.
Posted by Deckard on August 10, 2012 at 6:56 AM · Report this
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Phil, in 14 you say "Anarchism is the new Communism". In saying that I thought you were implying that it's the new bogie man (i.e. Red Scare). But when you say something like "I regard policing to be necessary at this time" it sounds similar to the language Communists used, how capitalism was an evil but necessary step in the inevitable march toward the Communist utopia. In that respect it sounds like Anarchism is the new Communism. Are all Anarchists created equal, but some are more equal than others?

#28 is hilarious. All that destruction was an inside job. No doubt all that black clothing was taken from the SWAT guys when they weren't looking. Hey cracked, who perpetrated 9/11?
Posted by repete on August 10, 2012 at 8:23 AM · Report this
devinderry 32
How about a SLOG poll to see just how many of us would meet the requirements of the warrant? Personally, I could make the list 4 times over.
Posted by devinderry on August 10, 2012 at 8:49 AM · Report this
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@23 If I was I would probably lie about it.

@28 Can we do both? Fuck gun nuts who think they can endanger or harm others for their stupid causes and fuck anarchists who think they can do the same for theirs.

But the main problem with your theory is that no one with half a brain thinks that this movement is going anywhere because anarchism is far too silly for that. But that does not mean that small numbers of people cannot hurt others, and the role of the cops is to stop that.
Posted by giffy on August 10, 2012 at 8:53 AM · Report this
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@29: I wish we did not need peacekeepers or people to enforce our public policies, but I think we do need them. I insist that they do their jobs in an ethical and constitutional manner. When they violate the law, we should take their violations more seriously than we would when a similar act is committed by someone whose job does *not* involve enforcing policy at gunpoint or by someone whose job does *not* result in him or her receiving the benefit of the doubt when conflicts arise.

Our police are our most dangerous public servants. They deserve extra scrutiny. When they attempt to hide their actions from us, we should pay even closer attention.
Posted by Phil M http://https://twitter.com/pmocek on August 10, 2012 at 9:01 AM · Report this
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@29: I wish we did not need peacekeepers or people to enforce our public policies, but I think we do need them, and that we likely will for at least as long as I'm alive. I insist that they do their jobs in an ethical and constitutional manner. When they violate the law, we should take their violations more seriously than we would when a similar act is committed by someone whose job does *not* involve enforcing policy at gunpoint or by someone whose job does *not* result in him or her receiving the benefit of the doubt when conflicts arise.

Our police are our most dangerous public servants. They deserve extra scrutiny. When they attempt to hide their actions from us, we should pay even closer attention.
Posted by Phil M http://https://twitter.com/pmocek on August 10, 2012 at 9:16 AM · Report this
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@33 I think you missed my point. The nature of "anarchist" violent incidents over the years continues to point to incitement by agents provocateurs, undercover operatives of one kind or another. We never see any serious arrests or convictions of any kind of leaders or organizers.

The "anarchist" violence is a convenient method of making any anti-establishment demonstrations of any kind look scary to the mainstream. Instead of reporting a march with union and parent groups, say, the media can report dramtic violence by mysterious individuals using surprisingly great footage.

This grand jury harassment shtick is just another version of the mass arrests for obstruction law enforcement has done in the past. Part of the show.
Posted by cracked on August 10, 2012 at 9:27 AM · Report this
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Well, we sure need police if you expect someone to go confront every "group of disorderly people" crossing a street against a traffic signal.

Were you hoping to goad him into slugging a girl on camera? Did it occur to you that the officer decided that their actions didn't pose a risk and one cop trying to confront a "group of disordely people" for jaywalking would just run the risk of escalating things beyond what a single cop could contain?

Meanwhile, an organize march is likely to be seeking to obstruct traffic, rather than get across the street, creating an ongoing situation, and there is likely to be more than one cop present.
Posted by madcap on August 10, 2012 at 9:34 AM · Report this
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Some of you miss the point a out the subpoena: the types of items listed to collect in the subpoena are not the probable cause that justifies the subpoena.

There may have been weak or trumped up probable cause in this case, and the items in the subpoena may have been generally worthless as evidence, but it doesn't mean the police have a blank check to search random houses for anarchist literature. It means some prosecutor convinced a judge to sign a search warrant for those things specifically at Plante's house.
Posted by madcap on August 10, 2012 at 9:39 AM · Report this
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Thanks to Brendan Kiley for reporting on the Obama Raids --- like the vile Palmer Raids in the second decade of the 20th century --- the preemptive arrests are meant to curtail active citizen involvement in the political process and strike fear in the hearts of ordinary Americans, an already apathetic bunch!

When the Palmer Raids began, they were solely about halting growing political power: there had been many hundreds of successful elections throughout American won by the Socialist Party --- the banksters were shaking and quaking in their booties.

In the present, once again they dispatch their jack booted thugs to accost and rough up the citizen-activists!

It is fitting that Kiley mentions both the National Lawyers Guild and the ACLU. The ACLU originally was formed in response to the vile Palmer Raids of yesteryear, and the National Lawyers Guild was created in response to the ACLU's embracing the obscene Joe McCarthy and his McCarthyism --- the ACLU kicked out those attorneys most concerned with human rights and civil rights, those attorneys with real integrity, who went on to form their National Lawyers Guild!

Many suspect the ACLU to be a Wall Street false front organization to this very day. Sure, they occasionally take on an important case, but all too often they have ignored the monumental cases of the day!

Those preemptive arrests began under the Bush administration and have been extended and expanded under Obama --- that hopeless changeling!

Whether it's the obvious fascist, the draft-dodging and tax-dodging Willard Mitt Romney, or the more subtle fascist who pays lip service to Gay and women's issues --- anyone voting for fascism in 2012 is clearly repudiating America.

That is why the honest American citizen will be voting for Jill Stein in 2012.
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Posted by sgt_doom on August 10, 2012 at 10:18 AM · Report this
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@36 No, I just think your point is ridiculous. There are no agent provocateurs there are just assholes in masks smashing things. The nature of anarchist violence suggests nothing more than some dumb angry kids who feel that violence is justified by whatever nonsense they believe.

I find it interesting that you think the police refraining from arresting the leaders of a 'movement' over the actions of its followers is somehow evidence of police misconduct. Seems more like they have acted with discretion, and are only responding so forcefully now because an armed group smashed up downtown in an attempt to cause a riot.
Posted by giffy on August 10, 2012 at 10:52 AM · Report this
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The ACLU is a false front for Wall Street bankers? Is this satire?
Posted by repete on August 10, 2012 at 1:22 PM · Report this
Bonefish 42
Given the vast difference between the frequencies of violent right-wing political crime vs. violent left-wing political crime, it's beyond ridiculous for cops to give two shits about anarchist literature.

This is just a remnant of Red Scare from the Cold War, and the sooner it's dropped the better.
Posted by Bonefish http://5bmisc.blogspot.com/ on August 10, 2012 at 2:49 PM · Report this
Bonefish 43
40: It's all well and good to denounce the window smashers as a bunch of idiot kids with nothing better to do. But would you care to explain, at some point, how this justifies the judicial system treating anarchist literature as physical evidence of involvement in specific crimes?

The next time an abortionist gets shot, do we get to arrest my conservative, anti-choice uncle and search his house for Anne Coulter books?
Posted by Bonefish http://5bmisc.blogspot.com/ on August 10, 2012 at 2:58 PM · Report this
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The church and state want control over our bodies. The corporations want to destroy the planet for shareholder's profits. Ruling class/business keeps getting richer while the poor get poorer. Wanting to change this is not a crime.

The FBI should go after real criminals like the guy in aurora that purchased 6,000 rounds of assault rifle ammo online. Don't tell me the feds aren't monitoring that.
Posted by younggods on August 11, 2012 at 2:41 AM · Report this
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@41, repete,

Negative, sonny wonni, and neither is this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pla…

You need to do three things, sonny wonny:

(1) learn how to do a forensic audit, then perform such an audit on (2) the League of Conservation Voters and the Nature Conservancy, and (3) do some research on the full history of the ACLU -- might find your sorry butt enlightened, for a change!

http://www.globalresearch.ca/coverStoryP…
Posted by sgt_doom on August 11, 2012 at 11:14 AM · Report this
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Go to:

Committee Against Political Repression
http://nopoliticalrepression.wordpress.c…

if you want to get more involved!
Posted by Jared Smith http://www.responsiblemarijuanaproject.org on August 12, 2012 at 1:42 PM · Report this
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I’m surprised that no one has blamed Bush, Romney, or the GOP. Come to think of it we are knee deep in Democrat territory so the self righteous Dem’s are calling the shots here in Seattle. With that said I would look to the socialist wing of the Democratic Party to see where the “hassle from the man” is coming from. Never a shortage of Dem’s wanting to tell you how you’ll act, what to read, or say.
Posted by You idiots on August 13, 2012 at 1:26 PM · Report this
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@47
Your insecurity is showing
Posted by jtripper22 on August 13, 2012 at 2:25 PM · Report this
Bonefish 49
Here's a summary of 47's posting process:

*Reads an article about people being arrested for possessing left-wing literature*

*Interprets this as evidence that left-wingers are the ones trying to control what you read*

*Never realizes how stupid this is, even in all the time it takes him to shit out his paragraph, hit submit, and hit confirm*

Who could expect anything less from a right-winger?
Posted by Bonefish http://5bmisc.blogspot.com/ on August 13, 2012 at 3:57 PM · Report this
Fire Aim Ready 50
How's that Hope and Change thing working out for you Obama fans? Four more years!

I bet as FBI agents, with assault rifles drawn, smashed through her front door with a battering ram, Plante's first thoughts were, "Thank god for Obama! Think what would happen with a Republican in the White House."
Posted by Fire Aim Ready http://www.4groundmusic.org on August 13, 2012 at 9:35 PM · Report this
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So the GOP paid off the FBI too? Shit!
Can't we just take away all their filthy money?
Posted by auntie grizelda on August 14, 2012 at 11:28 AM · Report this
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I have mixed feelings about this. "Anarchist" can mean a lot of things. I don't think someone calling themselves an anarchist or having anarchist literature is necessarily evidence of involvement in a crime. Yes, the Grand Jury should investigate acts of vandalism. However, they shouldn't be dragging in random anarchists. They need to be sure they get the right people.

At the same time, I'm not fooled by the argument that anarchists are all warm and fuzzy but just misunderstood or unfairly maligned. In 1989, my younger sister showed me a few copies of an anarchist newsletter that was circulating in her high school. The newsletter made repeated suggestions that anarchists rise up and kill the police. They had published names of specific officers with their home addresses. There are some definite whackadoodles within the anarchist community, so I don't blame the locals for wanting some investigation into the property damage.
Posted by Diagoras on August 14, 2012 at 1:40 PM · Report this
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I think the anarchists should be caned, like in Singapore.
Posted by Mister G on August 14, 2012 at 8:06 PM · Report this
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There are legitimate citizen concerns with the government of our country, and when our SCOTUS and our POTUS are bought by KOCH et al, and it is beginning to appear to average citizens that we have a Vichy government then citizen dissatisfaction is guaranteed.

I think the cops should be arresting the gangster banksters who brought down our entire economy not a few window breakers.

And, 9/11 truth has not been told and needs to be. Sibel Edmonds, Boiling Frogs dot org, a witness that the U.S. KNEW what was happening before 9/11 and that Osama Bin Laden was named as CIA operative in those documents at that time.
Posted by survivorthriver on August 15, 2012 at 2:05 PM · Report this
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According to a copy of the warrant, agents were looking for black clothing, paint, sticks, flags, computers and cell phones, and "anti-government or anarchist literature." LOL - I have all of these in my house - I have a degree in English and make costumes as a second job. Not sure which book counts as anarchist literature - Atlas Shrugged, Animal Farm, Stranger in a Strange Land or 1984?
Posted by wiley37 on October 12, 2012 at 4:15 AM · Report this
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I'm a grandfather who finds the actions taken by law enforcement, the secret Grand Jury, Attorney General's office & Judge Richard Jones manipulating Amendment V of the Constitution highly disturbing. I'm also finding some of the above “dialog” on the part of a small number of posters who somehow believe a Republican administration whatever beyond surreal is. Here's to the kool-aid drinkers…
Posted by TerminalWords on October 13, 2012 at 4:52 PM · Report this
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The irony of conspiracy theorists talking about those who don't embrace them as kool-aid drinkers is stark... The rhetoric is always so similar. There's a vast conspiracy that you has hoodwinked everyone except the rare few who, with the aid of their binoculars and the internet, have stumbled upon some guy who knows the real truth.

And you want us to believe you because you're right. "Here, drink this kool-aid", you say...

Regarding the actual article, which no one seems to actually care about... If they were so innocent, why not simply state that instead of "refusing to take part". That's a pretty pointless statement.

If they're so persecuted, why are they allowed free access to the internet and access to all their assets and donations. I mean, are you claiming they're elite hackers who smuggle the internet out of solitary, or are you continuing the wonderful duality of "the government is a secret illuminati that runs complex mind-altering plots... yet is completely incompetent and can't manage to do anything correctly"? And this makes sense to you?

Do you not understand the hypocrisy of advocating questioning of the government (usually some fraction of the government that happens to think differently than you) but not your own sources? Question EVERYTHING. Don't somehow believe you are a prophet with the intuition to weed truth from lies. You're not smarter than the "majority". Being brainwashed by the minority doesn't make you clever or original; at best it makes for wry humor, like avoiding the pitfall but tripping on the banana peel.

If the government really COULD run the conspiracies that seem to be dreamed up some places, how is it that YOU somehow discovered it, can talk freely about it without fear of retribution, and can publicly spread this message? That's the grand irony of this article. If they really were the political martyrs they claimed to be, they'd have closed the hearings, seized their assets, and avoided these articles.
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Posted by therhyno on October 16, 2012 at 1:48 PM · Report this
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OMG, almost everyone I've even known has: Black clothing, Computer(s), Cell phone, paint, sticks, even flags! does that mean everyone is a terrorist? I bet everyone on the SWAT team that raided her house has those items. And I am sure they have all read anarchist material as part of their research. I have read litature of most religions to see why they think the way they do, may have read some of the bad books to, along with every text book and encylapedia set I touched, does that make me a bad person!! I should turn myself in, we all should turn our selves in. 100% of the population should be in jail right now... this is so fing stupid.
Posted by Mahhn on October 19, 2012 at 12:31 PM · Report this
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This is what we the people get - when a MADMAN USURPER - overlooks THIRTY-TWO Radical Muslim Training camps on US soil - reported to Homeland Security by alert US citizens -

only for Obama to have Janet Napolitano of Homeland Security issue a report labeling anyone who attended Tax Day Tea Party events as Domestic terrorists, demoralizing Americans exercising their Constitutional rights to Freedom of Association, Individual Freedoms and Liberties - showing their Political Dissent - in a Civil demonstration, while Obama was DEMONIZING our returning American troops as possible recruits for right-wing Extremists -

and the Left laughing about it -

until the Leftists get the doors of their houses rammed in by SWAT TEAMS, etc.

If we the people do not stick together - from being pulled apart by a Madman in the White House, then it being every man for himself - is exactly what the Coward-in-Chief wants.

Reminder:
To QUELL the FIRESTORM of OUTRAGE - over the report issued by Janet Napolitano of Homeland Security,
w demands for Obama to FIRE NAPOLITANO - not just get her to resign,

Obama devised the SECRET FLYOVER of the Manhattan Skylines of Air Force One and threee fighter jets - causing WIDESPREAD PANIC - as maliciously intended - reminding everyone of the RADICAL MUSLIM TERRORIST ATTACK in New York City on 911.

What occurred in BENGHAZI - on the Anniversary of 911 - 2012 -
w his STAND DOWN ORDERS -
when Americans, serving The USA abroad,
were under siege in a RADICAL MUSLIM TERRORIST ATTACK -
resulting in Benghazi-Gate= Democratic Party members Obama, Susan Rice, Hillary Clinton LYING about it = anti-Islam video that caused a protest that turned violent = are ACTS of TREASON!!!

Their LIES and DECEIT were aiding and abetting our ENEMIES!!!!

Move on it - w yr elected members of our US Congress =
respectfully demand Obama STEP DOWN as POTUS and Commander-in-Chief or FACE IMPEACHMENT!!!
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Posted by Fina Biscotti on August 9, 2013 at 8:30 PM · Report this
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This is what we the people get - when a MADMAN USURPER - overlooks THIRTY-TWO Radical Muslim Training camps on US soil - reported to Homeland Security by alert US citizens -

only for Obama to have Janet Napolitano of Homeland Security issue a report labeling anyone who attended Tax Day Tea Party events as Domestic terrorists, demoralizing Americans exercising their Constitutional rights to Freedom of Association, Individual Freedoms and Liberties - showing their Political Dissent - in a Civil demonstration, while Obama was DEMONIZING our returning American troops as possible recruits for right-wing Extremists -

and the Left laughing about it -

until the Leftists get the doors of their houses rammed in by SWAT TEAMS, etc.

If we the people do not stick together - from being pulled apart by a Madman in the White House, then it being every man for himself - is exactly what the Coward-in-Chief wants.

Reminder:
To QUELL the FIRESTORM of OUTRAGE - over the report issued by Janet Napolitano of Homeland Security,
w demands for Obama to FIRE NAPOLITANO - not just get her to resign,

Obama devised the SECRET FLYOVER of the Manhattan Skylines of Air Force One and threee fighter jets - causing WIDESPREAD PANIC - as maliciously intended - reminding everyone of the RADICAL MUSLIM TERRORIST ATTACK in New York City on 911.

What occurred in BENGHAZI - on the Anniversary of 911 - 2012 -
w his STAND DOWN ORDERS -
when Americans, serving The USA abroad,
were under siege in a RADICAL MUSLIM TERRORIST ATTACK -
resulting in Benghazi-Gate= Democratic Party members Obama, Susan Rice, Hillary Clinton LYING about it = anti-Islam video that caused a protest that turned violent = are ACTS of TREASON!!!

Their LIES and DECEIT were aiding and abetting our ENEMIES!!!!

Move on it - w yr elected members of our US Congress =
respectfully demand Obama STEP DOWN as POTUS and Commander-in-Chief or FACE IMPEACHMENT!!!
More...
Posted by Fina Biscotti on August 9, 2013 at 8:33 PM · Report this

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