Yes, CNN, David Carradine was kinky. So are a lot of people. I’ll bet you some some of CNN’s star anchors, reporters, and commenters are kinky. Lots of people are. Please get the fuck over it already. And as for you, ex-Mrs. Carradine…
“David was pretty strange,” said Gail Jensen, who was married to Carradine for 10 years. “He would tie himself up, and I would walk in and see him and say, ‘Oh, my God, David, you’ve got to be kidding me.'”
Maybe David Carradine wouldn’t have been tying himself up alone—which is highly dangerous (obviously)—if he’d been lucky enough to marry someone who wasn’t a judgmental, small-minded, sex-negative, dick-shriveling piece of shit. Just sayin’.
UPDATE: “Do you expect CNN to just drop the story when it wasn’t a suicide?” asks a commenter. “Or maybe praise him for killing himself trying to get off?”
I don’t expect CNN to drop the story. But running in circles shrieking “OMG!!! HE WAS A FREAK!!! KINKY!!! TIED UP!!! ASKING FOR IT!!!” isn’t helpful.
Some people are kinky. Some kinksters take risks—just like some non-kinksters. No one’s judgment is perfect. (How’s that marriage to a nice guy who’s only interested in vanilla sex working out for you, Laci Peterson?) CNN could talk about the precautions that Carradine might have taken, even in pursuit of a kink that is highly dangerous, like AEA. (Slate managed to do it.) You know, kinda like we talked about the ski helmet that Natasha Richardson might have worn.
But this shock-and-titillate shit isn’t helpful, and since there are, without a doubt, kinksters at every level at CNN, it’s insanely hypocritical. And they’re not really shrieking about AEA—a kink that, as Slate points out, can only be made a little less dangerous, never “safe”—they’re shrieking about bondage and sex toys and SM videos.
Um, I kind of think his kink preceded his marriage.
Blaming her does no good.
sometimes dan even you amaze me. do you expect CNN to just drop the story when it wasn’t a suicide? or maybe priase him for killing himself trying to get off? and where do you find the balls to insult his wife who stayed with him, never cheated as far as we know, and maybe was part of his fetishes at time. i think you are the “judgmental, small minded, sex-negative, dick-shriveling piece of shit”
It’s not like he was forced to marry her. If you decide to commit to a judgmental, small-minded, sex-negative, dick-shriveling partner, then you’ve shot yourself in the foot.
He needed a GGG!
Maybe she was commenting on his poor knot tying abilities?
I don’t expect them to drop the story. But running in circles shrieking “OMG!!! HE WAS A FREAK!!! KINKY!!! TIED UP!!! HE WAS ASKING FOR IT!!!” isn’t helpful.
Some people are kinky. Some kinksters take risks—just like some non-kinksters. No one’s judgment is perfect. (How’s that marriage to a guy who’s only interested in vanilla sex working out for you, Laci Peterson?) CNN could talk about the reasonable precautions that Carradine might have taken, even in pursuit of a kink that is highly dangerous, like AEA.
You know, kinda like we talked about the ski helmet that Natasha Richardson might have worn.
But this shock-and-titillate shit isn’t helpful, and since there are, without a doubt, kinksters at every level at CNN, it’s really hypocritical.
If Carradine’s weird kink wasn’t so funny and weird, why is everyone still laughing about his hilarious death days later?
And seriously, are you expecting the wreck of cable news to lead American society out of the wilderness of its sexual hangups?
And you’ve already shot yourself in the foot when you don’t even give your post a once over, like any fucking self-respecting writer from the third grade on up would do to catch double words.
“I’ll bet you some some of CNN’s star anchors”
But you were just so enraged about people talking about a sex act in which one is tied up and risks DEATH taking negative viewpoints on it.
OH THE HUMANITY!
Not to mention the kind of bitch who goes around talking shit about you on tv like a week after you fucking die.
You are really a useless piece of shit. Shut the fuck up.
Well, he did beat the crap out of her on a number of occasions. I could see why she might want to lash out at him now that he can’t get back at her. Or maybe we’re only hearing the carefully edited remarks that make both of them look like jerks… it’s not like that’s ever happened before!
I’ve always thought it was a sad fact of humanity, that we would much rather point out the faults, peculiarities, and kinks of others than acknowledge that we are each faulty, peculiar, and kinky in our own way. Grace, we all want it extended to us, yet so often we refuse to extend it to others.
Yah Kim, a post about a guy who hung himself, resulting in the death of his being – in search of gratification – is really the place to get preachy on us.
Dan, there’s something about this post that reminded me of the Mark Driscol’s mean-spirited comment that Ted Haggerty’s gay scandal was somehow the result of his wife ‘letting herself go.’ Don’t go there. People are what they are, kinky, gay, whatever. And sometimes they choose to marry highly unsuitable people who should not be blamed for being vanilla or female because that’s what they are. And a lot of people who are GGG might be still appalled by autoerotic asphyxiation just because is so freaking dangerous!
I’m with Dan on this one.
And Jocelyn @9.
Wait just a minute, here – there’s absolutely nothing there to justify that kind of bile towards his ex (Jensen). Are you confusing her with the one whose divorce papers got leaked?
Number one, she said he liked to tie himself up. Are you seriously willing to say that this is not a valid kink? He spent days planning these play sessions – it’s not like he couldn’t get someone to indulge him if he wanted to be tied up by someone else.
Two, if you came unexpectedly on your partner tied up in complicated knots, are you saying that you wouldn’t say something along the lines of “Oh, geez!” If you’re supportive, generally, there’s no issue with this – and unless you know something we don’t… there’s nothing to say this wasn’t the case.
And three… this isn’t talking shit about him, unless you really have some kind of hangup about David Carradine needing to be some kind of asexual creature. It does, at the very least, take some steam out of the evil ninja cult theory.
you really think wearing a helmet when skiing is the same as knowing how to tie a knot when choking yourself while wanking it?
plus – daytime TV dan, do you really think CNN is going to the local sex shop at 10pm to ask what the best ways to choke yourself are?
plus – the Peterson thing is way out of line – you need to take the rest of the day off and become a human being again.
So you’re blaming Carradine’s ex-wife for his death, and blaming Laci Peterson for her own murder? I agree with noone – take a fucking break, Dan.
It’s times like this that you demonstrate how deep you are into the disconnect of reality and the behind-closed-doors, dark places you’ve been and write about.
kinda sick.
I don’t care about this. Does that count?
@20 – no.
Meanwhile the Seattle Times is all about the Amanda trial in Italy …
This is all about one thing: Ratings.
CNN runs with stories like this ad nauseum because the public likes to watch them (apparently). If it’s sensational, great. If it involves sex, even better.
As the ancient wizard Perry Farrell once said:
“The news is
Just another show
With sex and violence”
@20
It sure does!
@21 – Sex AND Violence — JACKPOT!
@18, you’ve flipped the reductio. Dan isn’t saying that Laci Peterson is responsible for her own murder, he’s just saying that Carridene is not responsible for his death in the same way. To hold the one is just as absurd as holding the other.
Pretty much anyone and everyone, no matter how prudish, will look for an EXCUSE to talk about sex.
This is CNNs.
StillNon @ 13,
I wasn’t talking to you or any other commentor on the thread. It wasn’t a comment about Carradine, his ex-wife, or even CNN. It was a general human observation, that titilation sells and thus is deemed newsworthy. Sorry, if you felt I was being preachy.
@16, ¶2: If I came on my partner tied up in complicated knots, it would not be unexpected; it would be the natural and certain denouement.
Good point, @28. =)
I just wanted to add that CNN most definitely has kinky reporters. Remember Richard Quest who was busted with a rope around his dick, a sex toy in his boot and meth in his pocket?
http://www.nypost.com/seven/04192008/new…
It’s kind of odd that you never know that someone is into autoerotic asphyxiation until they autoerotically asphyxiate.
No Dan, this does not count as just normal / personal kinky stuff, this is hardcore crazy.
@32 – um, no, it’s not hardcore crazy. Actually, fairly common in Asian countries.
Kinks tend to be culturally specific in general. Go read Kinsey someday and find out more.
I agree with Dan. Carradine wouldn’t be making anywhere near as much news if he died from a base-jumping contingency.
I say ninjas.
Just gotta love this line from the Ex:
I don’t appreciate David’s ex-wife behavior, the story she has revealed ( whether it is true or not) was done in very very bad taste… People should care less about his private life, moreover, this one is not for public consumption. Sex is still a hot theme to discuss, but everyone has the right to keep private or to share. Leave the man alone and stop generating “clicks” on this sad story.