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Well, this is interesting. Scooters vs. Bikes is one thing that we haven’t already argued to death on Slog. Hope the cyclist is OK.
Shame. Who had the legal right of way? What happened? Let’s not automatically assume the scooter driver was at fault–could be either one.
Where do you see blood in that picture?
Let the scooter-cyclist war begin!
Um… What blood? Where?
And what actually happened? Who caused the accident? Some REPORTING would be kinda nice. (Unless of course the facts gat in the way of the meme.)
How sad! And I am a bad man, for my first thought was, ooh, nice chrome on that scooter. And then I looked for the blood, but was kind of…angry I couldn’t see it, which, again, bad man.
I don’t see blood, but I do see something vaguely resembling a matte black helmet next to the hydro pole. It looks more motorcycle-y than bicycle-y, but my hope is that the bicyclist was helmeted.
Being on a flat-board and then put on a stretcher and only being able to look up while being told not to move and to concentrate on breathing is a shitty, shitty, rotten experience I wish upon no one.
How much do you want to bet that the guy on the bicycle blew through a red light without stopping?
Right under the stretcher, just to the left of the pole. Is that the blood in question, or just some stain on the curb?
@9: Correct. He wasn’t gushing, but there was a decent amount around the scene. @7: That helmet belonged to the scooter guy. Didn’t see if the bicyclist was wearing one. They had already moved his bike and belongings somewhere else by the time I walked by.
Obviously, when we retrain our cops, to keep them out of fist fights, we need to put them on scooters.
I’d recommend a Vespa – those are cool.
DONT TAKE PICUTURES OF EMTS!!!! WE FUCKING HATE IT!!! Do people show up at your job and point their fucking iphones at you while you’re doing something difficult?
I know it’s in public and there’s nothing we can do to stop it, I”m just saying it sucks it pisses most of us the fuck off.
Ugh, scooter riders. The other day we stopped so a girl could cross at the crosswalk on 12th by Seattle U (the one with the huge sign and blinking lights) and a bitch on a scooter honked at us and went around. I was glad to no longer have her behind us because she followed the next car with only a couple of feet between them. Dumb bitch.
@13: You mean scooter rider. -and you mean that rider in particular.
“We are the mods!”
@8: If it was a sure bet, I’d be all-in.
But it’s just as possible scooter was making a right on red and didn’t see a cyclist in far-right (of right automobile lane) with right-of-way. Given the weather an limited brightness, cyclist visibility is reduced if they fail to wear bright colours or have a bright, 1-watt LED flashing. Having a helmet on would have helped.
@12
LOL, I mean if those ATM rent-a-cops get to mess with the cell phone photographers @ REI, you guys should at least get some pepper spray.
on a side note, If I was saving people’s lives on a daily basis I think I could appreciate some photographic attention and acknowledgement!
I bet your mother would love to see her son or daughter being heroic, lighten up!
@12, you’re kidding, right?
You have a high visibility, high adrenalin job. You drive around in a bright vehicle with blinking flashing lights and a loud siren. You deal with blood and chaos and high drama. All of which screams for attention of curiosity seekers.
Please take note: There is exactly zero chance that people won’t take pics of you on their cell phones. Get used to it.
You bikey folks make me mad with your “SHARE THE ROAD WITH US, WE’RE TAXPAYERS TOO! YOU HAD BETTER WATCH OUT FOR US OR ELSE!!!” nonsense. I mean, I get that you’re not surrounded by a safety shell, and you’re slower-moving than most car traffic, and I need to make a point of watching for bikes, but your protesting would bother me less if I didn’t see cyclists totally giving traffic laws the finger every day.
I know one of the benefits of riding a bicycle is being able to weave through traffic, and I do my damndest to watch out for you guys when I drive, particularly when changing lanes and turning. HOWEVER. There are certain rules you still need to obey, like coming to a complete stop at a stop sign or red light. When you behave in a way that doesn’t conform to traffic laws, and you are riding on the road, I don’t know what to anticipate, and it makes it much more difficult for me to avoid hitting you.
Also, bikes on sidewalks really piss me off as a pedestrian, particularly when there is a designated bike lane. The sidewalk is for me, the bike lane is for you. I refuse to flatten myself against the nearest building to let you by me, so don’t get all huffy when I’m “in your way.”
That’s a 2004 Yamaha Vino 125. We have one just like it, same color too. Deep candy red, they call it. Nice scooter, let me tell you.
Looks like he busted off a blinker. I recommend heading up to Bent Bike in Lynnwood and getting four of those big fat solid steel Harley-Davidson turn signals, the bullet shaped ones a full three inches across? They look awesome and if you tip over they are stout enough to bounce off the pavement and hold the weight of the scoot without even bending.
Also putting Harley parts on a Japanese scooter really pisses off those meatheads on hogs.
And bicyclists? You all really need to think about full-faced BMX helmets. It’s your face, OK? The pavement is unforgiving.
fuckin’ jay-walkers…
@21 at least no jaywalkers were punched out for Walking While Black.
We get a lot of scooters in the bikes lanes here. That isn’t relevant to the picture, but I’m venting because it pisses me off.
“Scooter.”
Haha.
Holy crap, can you believe it? I made a photo essay on how to do that turn signal mod. From back in the day when I was big into the Vino 125 community. Tell me that doesn’t look cool.
The bad part about buying those Harley parts at Bent Bike is that those guys are kind of dickish up there. But I took a picture of the part number so you could order them on the internet.
I bought my Vino 125 brand new at no other than University Honda. I miss that place. They were not dickish like Bent Bike. You know who is the nicest of all? Brian Morimoto. Am I right? He’s the one who sold me my Vino back in 2004. Nicest guy you’d want to meet.
Speaking of which, Brian is still around. He’s in the service department over at Eastside Motosports and if you wanted to take that Vino to a shop to get fixed instead of putting on Harley blinkers, you could do a lot worse than to go to see Brian. He will hook you up and not be a dick about it like some people.
Any truth that one of them was talking on a cell phone?
Or is that just a scurrilous rumor?
@19 “I know one of the benefits of riding a bicycle is being able to weave through traffic”
How about fucking no. I used to bicycle to/from work for years once upon a time, circa 1994-1997. “Weaving through traffic” was a retarded douchebag move then and it still is today. Bike riders need to follow every law as if they were driving a scooter, as far as I’m concerned.
It does chap my hide when I see fucking idiots zipping around on red lights, through cars stalled in traffic, etc. — yeah, go pop up on the curb to beat a light, that’s legit, or hit the bike space. But like the moron I saw on 5th at Westlake yesterday, between Bartell’s and Gap — the light was red going south on 5th, but you just had to go zipping up the middle of 5th between stopped cars. I almost half wished someone would open a door in your path, but then the Critical Mass militia would have probably beat him bloody.
Dexter@19: Always use your turn signal and don’t worry about us. Thanks.
@19 Cars must come to a complete stop for several reasons. The first is that cars stop slower than bikes, they are considerably heavier and don’t manuver or stop as well. Also cars have obstructed vision and hearing of their surroundings. Bikes and mopeds don’t depending on the moped operator’s helmet design.
Legally a bike is required to come to a complete stop in SOME areas. Let me stress this point, only in some jurisdictions do bikes have to follow all the same rules as cars. If you want to argue that stopping is the legal requirement in Seattle I won’t disagree but I will point out it is silly and wastes time. More and more areas are letting bikes treat red lights and stop signs as “yield” signs because if there is nobody around it is perfectly safe to go for it. Studies back up this is the case with bicycles but not with cars.
If you want to argue that bikes should have to stop you are either a vengeful asshole or just ignorant of transportation needs. What is your suggestion, that we slow down the average speed of bikes even more? We should make bikes less practical so there are more full on cars to create gridlock for other motorists such as yourself?
I am a cyclist but I am also a motorist, something that a lot of motorists forget is that cyclists usually drive too. I am glad every time I pass a bicycle because I know if they were driving then passing would not be an option.
@29,
Many bicyclists do not treat stop signs or lights as yield signs. They blow through without looking or stopping. They never stop for pedestrians.
@30: Nice generalization. You’re wrong, of course.
@30 don’t punch me, bro!
… oh, wait, I’m white. never mind.
Fucking bikes. How many times do they have to be told? YOU WILL LOSE AGAINST A MOTORIZED VEHICLE. Period.
I dont feel sorry for any bicyclist, that pretend to be a car and try to ride on the road. Fucking walk or get something with an engine. Otherwise those of us with thousands of pounds of metal surrounding us, will just run your hipsters asses off the road.
@ 31, no, she’s right. I saw it all the time in Seattle, and I see it all the time in Denver, too.
@ 34, you’re a fuckwit of the lowest magnitude. Get a new schtick.
2 people that don’t give a shit about traffic laws hit each other? NO WAY!
Matt@35: Yeah, right, bicyclists “never stop for pedestrians”.
ugh, so many broad generalizations.
there are some asshole car drivers
there are some asshole cyclists
there are some asshole scooter drivers
humans often lack ability to look beyond stereotypes and to see individual assholes among the masses of non-assholes
end.of.story